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12:00 AM
I know some people use boutique as a pretentious word for shop. It sounds like advertising lingo, which is usually ugly.
Using it for other things than shops is even worse...
@Ti-culTi-caille I would say a pool is most appropriate when things are put together and one can later either choose something from them, or one does something with all of the things in it. It is especially appropriate when the order in which things are added does not matter: they're all in there, it doesn't matter which is where inside the pool.
A pool of edits suggests that much could change about those edits before they are committed.
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2:07 AM
@Robusto Google Images recognized it, and it is a native speaker of English.
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3:30 AM
@CowperKettle We call them transformator-huisjes.
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5:23 AM
5:39 AM
Okay. Suppose that sentence is the text on a meme. It's like a title. In the meme you are showing Asians reacting/doing something.

I'm mostly confused if we can use "subject + when" together or we should use "when + subject".
Looks like my average ParkRun pace is 4:40 per km.
Today's sunrise
5:54 AM
6:19 AM
Yes. They make an Ice City every year on the main square.
Of course there are cities in the world with much more beautiful ice sculptures.
In a village in the St. Petersburg region, men hacked out an Epiphany cross in the ice, and had an Epiphany swim in the cross-shaped hole.
A small 40 yo woman crossed herself and jumped in the hole, instead of gradually submerging. The hole was hacked in river ice, with a strong current underneath.
The woman was too small, and was instantly carried away, as her children watched on.
This is the last image of her.
Several scuba divers have been working nonstop, searching for her body.
You are always seconds away from death.
This was a non-official, self-made Epiphany bath. Had it been set up by the Church, it would have had wooden railings, a wooden floor, and wooden steps for you to slowly walk in and out.
And I bet the Church would not set up such a thing over a strong current. Or would have installed a lattice, and made people wear some safety rope.
In the video, an undressed man searches for her in vain, and people start calling on him to swim some distance, un-tethered, under the ice. What an advice. Gladly he did not follow it. There would have been two corpses instead of just one.
I once swam a small river while on a bicycle trip. It was slow, the current did not seem like a strong stream.
I only wanted to swim to the other side, just 15 meters away, and then back. I did not manage to swim half of the distance before I had noticed that I was being carried away, far from our campsite.
I got tired swimming back to my shore, and then walking back to the campsite. Rivers are treacherous.
6:59 AM
@CowperKettle btw Russia is considered developed or developing like India?
7:32 AM
"Women just love drama" -- What exactly is meant here by "drama"? Emotional and scandalous behaviour or theatrical acting?
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8:41 AM
@Vikas I don't know, I'm not sure
A developed country (or industrialized country, high-income country, more economically developed country (MEDC), advanced country) is a sovereign state that has a high quality of life, developed economy and advanced technological infrastructure relative to other less industrialized nations. Most commonly, the criteria for evaluating the degree of economic development are gross domestic product (GDP), gross national product (GNP), the per capita income, level of industrialization, amount of widespread infrastructure and general standard of living. Which criteria are to be used and which countries...
Based on this map, we are together with India.
you are from Russia right?
But I was told that in some places in India the situation with living conditions is bad.
@Vikas I'm in Yekaterinburg, Russia
@CowperKettle yeah pretty bad. Even bigger cities have some areas very less developed.
Maybe now, with the ongoing revolution in solar power, India will burst ahead. There is so much solar power there.
The map shows the bigger and clear picture. I'm surprised no countries in south America are developed
8:44 AM
I bet solar panels could be installed on all trains and near the tracks, and that will cover a lot of needs on weather conditioning inside train carriages, for instance.
@CowperKettle I don't have much understanding how a country is considered developed. But what I know is developed country have better education and educated people. But I don't see education getting improved here any time soon.
India does not need much heating of living quarters, but maintaining a cool climate is an issue, so I hope they really get to installing solar panels everywhere to feed conditioners.
@Vikas Don't all people in India get the standard 10 year of schooling?
@CowperKettle We do. But quality isn't good. We are taught many things wrong, especially in rural areas. That's why I feel they remain behind others.
I have personally asked many questions to learn better on stackexchange that I should have learned in my school :D And I realize how wrong we were taught in school
@CowperKettle Further, having a college degree or Doctor of Philosophy isn't a big deal here. Anyone can have it but you still might end up jobless.
8:48 AM
@Vikas But it's the 21 century, surely there are many books available? Or is there not enought of good books in Hindi on maths and science?
Tomorrow it will fall to minus 21°C. I should skip the Sunday collective run near lake Shartash. I will freeze my feet of bicycling there.
@CowperKettle Yes. I realized it later that you can read on your own. No one was there to guide better. We were always forced to score good marks in exam, that matters. I scored 95% marks in my school always but later I realized I never had a good understanding of basic things. In other words, teachers focus on cramming things to get marks.
@CowperKettle I'm afraid to go outside even in plus 21 degree C. I have to do motorcycle riding practice :D
I'm just waiting for the sunshine
My friend is a doctor and he hates motorcycles.
He shudders at the sight of motorcyclists.
Because he was an ambulance doctor in the south of Russia.
I was never interested into it but now I'm about 30 and I feel I should learn it. It's helpful in developing countries because it's main source for commuting here.
And regularly saw people broken apart in motorcycle accidents.
Motorcycles in Russia are just luxury? Like USA?
Or you also use for commute?
8:52 AM
No, not luxury.
But only usable in the summer period.
You will kill yourself using it in the winter. On a slippery road in the dark.
@CowperKettle Yeah that's very scary. It took me long time to avoid that fear and finally start learning
@CowperKettle makes sense. Russia is cold
He says it's better to drive the cheapest, oldest car, than any motorcycle, no matter how expensive.
You get higher chances of staying alive.
@CowperKettle in your environment or in general everywhere?
@Vikas Just anywhere
@CowperKettle unfotunately yes, so many accidents happen here. And like we were talking why Indian can't develop anytime soon . . . many people here get driving license without any proper knowledge and driving tests 🤣 Solar panels can't fix this thing. We might become rich but not developed soon
When I try to follow official riding rules, people think I'm weird :D
@CowperKettle trains also scare me. Derailments happen often here.
9:16 AM
@Vikas Here people sometimes avoid rules too ))
Like not turning on the turning light, so when you turn your car, others get very suprised
Or, near my home, I have to always make sure no car is trying to pass the crossroads on the red light.
I once nearly got hit by a car. I was returning from a jog, listening to music. I decided to run to the other side of the road, since it was green light for the pedestrians, and a car sped up right in front of me.
Had I been a second too early in stepping from the curb, it would have hit me.
Now I force myself to remove the headphones. Even if a car does hit me, at least my corpse will have no headphones inside my ears, and the driver will be held responsible.
And without music in my ears, it's easier to hear an approaching car, of course.
9:45 AM
@CowperKettle haha
But thing is, people I guess break rule almost everywhere. But in developed nations like USA/UK I guess rules are more enforced. You are more likely to get punished by authorities.

Here, you can just bribe the traffic police. It's very common in small cities.
10:31 AM
> A popular greeting in ancient Rome, used especially at the start of letters, was "si vales, valeo” — if you are well, I am well.
@Vikas I think there is an important cultural aspect here, and one can't generalize like that. I mean, Iran probably has some of the worst drivers in the world, and there are stats to show for it.
@CowperKettle well thankfully whenever I'm feeling awfully well you have a beautifully grim story to make me swear in several directions
@CowperKettle Russia is often classified as a "failed developed country", isn't it?
I mean, whenever such classifications are mildly useful, Russia meets the criteria of developed nations in some variables and the criteria of developing countries in others, sometimes a mixture of both.
@CowperKettle that's probably optimistic. The 1% will certainly get richer, but how much will the bottom 50% benefit? And to hear Faheem say it, wealth disparity is getting worse.
@CowperKettle well I don't think cyclists need to emulate such environments to die, there are much easier ways.
Even if you're perfectly careful the panicking senior citizen with little eyesight driving an SUV will bulldoze you and your motorbike and not even notice it
10:56 AM
yeah could be. It's common for 16 year olds to ride a geared motorcycle that too without license. And they make fun of others like me who are very late to learn riding. And they don't know safety rules at all. They feel like it's just like bicycle.

And some give opposite indicators in cars 🤣 Like if you have to turn left, give right indicator (they give it to hint to the cars behind to overtake them from that side) it's very funny and scary. You can't take rules for granted here.

So it has been unofficial "culture" to ride against the rules.
And if you wear a helmet on a motorcycle, people look at you like you're too scared of death. They judge you.
Bigger cities don't have such problems, but in small towns and villages, it does happen.
11:42 AM
Automatic pneumatic all-terrain vehicle on Mars. Postcard by Andrei Sokolov (1982).
@Vikas But if you don't, you'll get fined, I guess.
I don't know how strictly it's enforced, but there must be some rule for wearing a helmet.
Rebarinoccio's Adventures in Russia
12:09 PM
@CowperKettle What @Vikas said. Cultural factors also matter.
India is a disaster zone in many ways. It's a good place to learn to deal with chaos, work hard, and absorb punishment. But structured learning is largely lacking.
There are good research institutes and so on, but they aren't exactly geared towards teaching children.
(I feel like I haven't been here for a while.)
@M.A.R. Everyone thinks it's getting worse. Oxfam just published a report about it.
Hair-raising reading. Was just looking at it a couple of days ago.
Yes. In bigger cities you immediately get caught. But in small cities and villages, it depends on the mood of traffic police. When they are in mood, they will catch you and fine you (or even except bribe). But mostly, they don't care. They care whenever they want maybe every 6 months.

I personally saw a policeman riding motorcycle without helmet and even talking on phone.
Some sort of summary.
Roughly half of India has no money. Under USD 1000.
Which is basically nothing even in India.
The pandemic was catastrophic for India. Combined with the gang of Nazis pretending to be the Central Govt.
@FaheemMitha I also lost my job and now jobless for a year :(
12:24 PM
@Vikas Oh. Very sorry to hear that. Are you located somewhere in India?
@FaheemMitha Yeah true
@FaheemMitha Yes I'm from India.
I can get job now again but it's hard now. And you'd get very less salary as compared to my old salary.
Just ot be clear, that's the Oxfam report. The half of India has under USD 1000 bit. I think they used the figure of Rs. 50,000.
I also watched a Moneylife video yesterday, by Sucheta Dalal of Moneylife.
She said the number of investors in the Indian stock market had doubled since the start of the pandemic. That's quite terrifying in itself.
And of course most of them have no idea what they are doing.
12:38 PM
@FaheemMitha I don't know much stocks and cryptocurrency but yes seeing a lot of young people investing money there. Even if they have $5, they're investing it somewhere. While it maybe good, but some think that it is kind of an easy way to earn money soon.
@FaheemMitha USD 1000 = Rs. 75000
My monthly salary was USD 500
And that's too less compared to west
1:32 PM
@CowperKettle looks like a Spiderman villain
@Vikas I think the right attitude to deal with bravado is not putting too much weight on it. After all, how much you value safety over avoidable dangers is illusory and entirely in your head.
@CowperKettle My understanding is India has JEE, which is a ridiculously advanced exam for high schoolers to weed out something like several thousand people among more than a million participants, to be accepted into more prestigious fields and universities. As a result, there's a distinctive lack of study material that the standard curriculum cannot provide. Combined with little regulation (everyone and their dog can write textbooks), a lot of the available study material for advanced courses in
. . . math, chemistry, and physics lacks in quality.
@Vikas it's reported based on quite a few factors, from life expectancy and infant mortality to GDP and "happiness" and what-not.
@Vikas the biggest evil in South America has been the American empire, not China or Russia, so it's not talked about a lot.
@M.A.R. Pardon I quite didn't understand it fully.
@Vikas that's victim blaming. India isn't a developed country because they couldn't afford it.
@M.A.R. Yeah maybe. Also they keep saying that India will soon be largest economy or in top 3 soon. But larger economy doesn't necessarily mean developed country I guess.
@M.A.R. Means? I didn't get this too.
@Vikas the talentless and the ignorant are too lazy to conform to safety regulations, and they justify it by calling it living a risky life. It only depends on you how much you let yourself be affected by their false rhetoric.
@Vikas central and south America have always been plundered by the US, which is part of the reason they tend to be economically crippled.
@FaheemMitha Okay but isn't that the general trend? Where is it getting better?
2:02 PM
@M.A.R. 👍🏼 I wear my helmet anyway.
@M.A.R. Oh
BRAVADO is a new word I learnt today :D
And the pronunciation is even more interesting.
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3:06 PM
@CowperKettle No, it's not a native speaker. It is software that includes matches of all words in a search. ^_^
For example, that is a picture of a "hotdog van" ...
And so is that.
And this.
feels hungry again
3:54 PM
@Vikas That's absurdly low. Where are you located?
@M.A.R. I'm not sure I follow. Are we talking about India, or the whole world? Because I thought we were talking about India.
@M.A.R. Weed out is the wrong term here, I think. That means remove from. In this case you're actually selecting those people, not removing them.
@M.A.R. Not entirely. A lot of people in India are their own worse enemies. Not so different from people in other countries, I suppose. Of course India was raped for 200 years, which isn't true of all countries.
@Vikas What you had:
> 1. Asians when they see Europeans are playing games
2. When Asians see Europeans are playing games
Neither of these is a complete sentence; titles need not be complete sentences, so that's OK.
As such, either is OK. They are very different grammatical constructions, both of which are allowed.
> and make the best of Mankind as they are, since we cannot have them as we wish (George Washington)
I would probably add a comma in the first one:
> 1. Asians, when they see Europeans are playing games
4:14 PM
> My son kept chewing on electrical cords so I had to ground him. He’s doing better currently and conducting himself properly.
> Absolutely shocking
4:27 PM
@FaheemMitha India. And it's not much to live a better life but many earn much lower than this. This is still above the average salary here.
@Vikas I know, you said. I meant, where in India? State?
@FaheemMitha Haryana
But I worked in New Delhi
@Vikas Ah, the North. OK.
Have you been there?
Or you from India?
@Vikas Yes, I'm Indian. I live in Bombay.
@Vikas Have I been where?
4:29 PM
Good. But I guess south India has slightly better salary for same job
@FaheemMitha India
@Vikas I live in India, so yes.
Also, I grew up here. Unfortunately.
With that much salary, I hardly survived in Delhi
@Vikas Did your employers give you anything else? Or just USD 500?
So it was like Rs. 40,000 a month before the pandemic?
4:32 PM
@FaheemMitha Nothing. They expected us to work day and night and on Sundays (marketing agency life you know)
@Vikas That's terrible. So Rs. 40,000 before the pandemic is roughly correct?
@FaheemMitha Yes. Rs 37,500 was my highest salary. It's good enough in small town but not much in big city
@Vikas That sounds terrible, but it's India, so it's not surprising.
There are parts of the world where it probably gets worse, too.
People don't talk much about Africa, but there are parts that are in very bad shape. There is one country which is a one-person dictatorship. I read about it some years ago. Forget the name. Apparently conditions are appalling there.
4:34 PM
But again it depends on your skills too. I'm average/below average so . . .
Yes Africa has lots of under developed area
@FaheemMitha Aren't you aware of jobs in bank? Starting salary is around Rs. 50,000. What do you think about it
@Vikas That's also very low.
I'm surprised about Zimbabwe.
And why is Ethiopia so much worse than Kenya?
@Cerberus lol I commented based on this map :P
I've noticed that salaries in India are very low, yes.
4:38 PM
And I didn't know Nepal, Bhutan, Laos, and Cambodya were so bad.
I'm not seeing a key.
It is the map from above.
Developed, developing, undeveloped.
I was surprised about Argentina. I thought they are great in Football so must be fully developed :D
And would your really expect Ivory Coast to be in a better shape than Laos?
Yes, that's the map I'm referring to.
The colors presumably correspond to wealth levels.
4:40 PM
@Vikas It is true that the South of South America is better than the rest. But it's still not like in the rich countries.
But I don't see any numbers there.
@Cerberus Yes. I saw some vlogs about Argentina in youtube and it looked quite good. Better than India for sure. So I guess it's close to developed.
What's the blue-green dot on the top of South America?
@Vikas Yes, I would say it is better than India.
But there are only three options here, so not much gradation is visible.
@FaheemMitha French Guina (googled)
4:42 PM
That's not a dot...
@Vikas In South America?
@FaheemMitha yes the dot
But French Guyana is indeed considered part of France, so it has the same colour as France, even though, in reality, it is much poorer.
Argh the spelling.
Isn't that in Africa?
4:43 PM
@Cerberus Guyana or Guina?
Guyana is in South America.
The Guineas are in Africa and Oceania...
@Vikas Guyana.
I don't think there is a French Guinea, and certainly not in South America.
British Guyana is not considered part of Britain proper, so it has its own colour.
French Guiana ( or ; French: Guyane [ɡɥijan] (listen)) is an overseas department/region and single territorial collectivity of France on the northern Atlantic coast of South America in the Guianas. It borders Brazil to the east and south and Suriname to the west. With a land area of 83,534 km2 (32,253 sq mi), French Guiana is the second-largest region of France (more than one-seventh the size of Metropolitan France) and the largest outermost region within the European Union. It has very low population density, with only 3.5 inhabitants per square kilometre (9.1/sq mi). (Its population is less than...
Oh, there are so many different spellings.
Guiana = Guyana.
But Guinea is completely different.
Guyana is a different country.
Guyana ( (listen) or (listen)), officially the Co‑operative Republic of Guyana, is a country on the northern mainland of South America and the capital city is Georgetown. Guyana is bordered by the Atlantic Ocean to the north, Brazil to the south and southwest, Venezuela to the west, and Suriname to the east. With 215,000 square kilometres (83,000 sq mi), Guyana is the third-smallest sovereign state by area in mainland South America after Uruguay and Suriname; it is also the second-least populous sovereign state in South America after Suriname. The region known as "the Guianas" consists of the...
4:49 PM
@Cerberus Oh. My bad
@FaheemMitha That is (former) British Guyana/Guiana.
Complicated, huh?
Guinea is a region in Western Africa; New Guinea is the island in Oceania, so called because, to Europeans, its inhabitants resembled the people of West Africa.
@Cerberus I see.
@Cerberus Ok. Actually I wanted to put it on a meme so full sentence was not needed. It was like a title
Yes, I figured.
I posted a question on wordreference forum on same
4:52 PM
Did anyone answer?
@Cerberus Not yet 🤣
My one question got closed on ELL SE
So I didn't risk another one there.
I didn't explain it well
5:05 PM
@Cerberus I hope you are surviving the pandemic well. Or at least OK.
5:40 PM
@Cerberus @FaheemMitha @Vikas youtube.com/watch?v=7Zed-g6dbZ8
More importantly
> I’m not a competitive person… I’ll be the first to admit it.
@Mitch 👍🏼 The english was fast but I managed to understand it a bit
@FaheemMitha Certainly, how about you?
@Mitch Does it contain much that hasn't been mentioned here?
@Mitch How to put this vertical dotted line?
> quotation
@Cerberus and how this quotation?
There was a question on formatting
I'll find it
5:52 PM
@Cerberus Still alive, thanks for asking.
@Vikas Surround your phrase with backticks: `
@FaheemMitha That is something.
@Cerberus Better than the alternative.
@Cerberus got it
@FaheemMitha Quite so!
@Vikas Good.
6:21 PM
@Cerberus names all the guineas and the history and how they're related
Haven't we named them all?
Or both, rather?
There were many I think
The english was little fast for me to understand fully
@Mitch OK I think I had already summarised that.
But thanks for the link.
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8:10 PM
@Mitch That's a lot of work for 3 minutes. Also, sadly, I don't care. Except to say that I've never really studied it, but did Europe take over the whole continent?
@FaheemMitha If you mean Africa, formally it almost did.
@Cerberus I did mean Africa, yes.
I believe only Ethiopia remained formally independent, despite Italian attempts.
Those poor Africans.
But of course there were many communities away from the coast that were supposedly part of e.g. French Africa, but where Europeans never, or almost never, came.
8:12 PM
@Cerberus I'm sure they got their pound of flesh, regardless.
Yes, although various African tribes and kingdoms weren't exactly good for other Africans either...
@FaheemMitha Who? What?
@Cerberus Taxes. Or the equlvalent thereof.
I doubt it.
They often didn't use money, in remote communities.
Which makes me think of the "Sanders" series.
@Cerberus Or the equivalent thereof.
So what the Europeans went looking for was things like gold or diamonds, rather.
8:14 PM
@Cerberus Well, yes.
@FaheemMitha You can only tax money or things that are valuable to you; not things only valuable to others.
They probably tried to extort some part of whatever valuable things those communities had, when they could establish a permanent rule over them.
@Cerberus I meant they took stuff. That's all.
They took what they could!
@Cerberus Yes, that's what I meant. Except without the "tried" part.
They often did not succeed, of course.
8:16 PM
Hey, did anyone here hear about the UN Treaty to Abolish Nuclear Weapons, which was ratified around a year ago?
When you never find a town, or when people have nothing that is of value to you, or when they hide it well, or when they flee temporarily, etc.
Because I didn't. Until just a few weeks ago. Though the thing had been in process since around 2017. And possibly before that.
But I guess I'm just very ignorant.
Hmm I don't know the significance of it.
Just asking if anyone had heard that it happened.
Praesumably, there have been other initiatives against atomics, too, and praesumably this one does not enforce anything...
8:18 PM
@Cerberus Very significant, IMO, but that wasn't my question.
@Cerberus No treaties to abolish, no.
This is the first one.
At least according to what I read. Obviously I don't know.
Just wondering whether it was in the news internationally. I don't follow news too well.
I didn't see it in the Indian media, but I don't follow everything.
I checked the Guardian, and they did cover it somewhat. But I missed it there, at the time it was written.
> The treaty passed on schedule on 7 July with 122 in favour, 1 against (Netherlands), and 1 official abstention (Singapore). Sixty-nine nations did not vote, among them all of the nuclear weapon states and all NATO members except the Netherlands.[8]
I don't remember seeing it, but it may have been in the news.
That must have taken a ton of work to get done.
Very impressive.
It must be very stressful to have the kind of job which involves worrying about Earth's survival. And feeling obliged to do something about it.
Well, at least the surface layer. I doubt anything humans do will affect the interior, molten magma and so forth.
The International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons (abbreviated to ICAN, pronounced EYE-kan) is a global civil society coalition working to promote adherence to and full implementation of the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons. The campaign helped bring about this treaty. ICAN was launched in 2007 and counts 607 partner organizations in 106 countries as of 2021. The campaign received the 2017 Nobel Peace Prize "for its work to draw attention to the catastrophic humanitarian consequences of any use of nuclear weapons and for its ground-breaking efforts to achieve a treaty-based...
8:28 PM
@Cerberus Where is this graphic from?
The Wiki article.
@Cerberus Oh Wikipedia? I didn't notice it.
Oh, I didn't look at the ICAN page.
That's why I posted the Wiki link.
One interesting thing I learned is that there are some countries who voluntarily gave up their nuclear weapons. I didn't know that. At least not about South Africa.
I don't know how far along they were...
9:22 PM
@Cerberus It names 4 in the first 5 seconds: Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Equatorial Guinea, and Papua New Guinea. And in the past there were others.
9:33 PM
@FaheemMitha Pretty much. Liberia and Ethiopia were the only independent nations during modern colonial times, but Liberia seems to be so connected with the US that one might consider it under US colonial influence, And Ethiopia was invaded ny Italy during WWII, but was not exactly a colony.
But that means pretty much the entire continent with a couple of asterisks, by Western Europe.
@Vikas Youtube has an option where you can slow down the playback. Go to Settings.
9:49 PM
@Mitch Just two regions, Guinea in Africa and Guinea in Oceania.
Why do all home appliances now have AI and internet in them? It's not like a web-enabled washing machine can load itself if I press a button on an app!?
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I think 'AI' does them too much honour...
I must admit, though, that I have sinned.
I have bought a portable air conditioner that I can turn on and off over the Internet.
@Mitch Liberia is an interesting case.
> Liberia began in the early 19th century as a project of the American Colonization Society (ACS), which believed black people would face better chances for freedom and prosperity in Africa than in the United States.
> The Americo-Liberian settlers did not relate well to the indigenous peoples they encountered, especially those living in the more isolated interior. Colonial settlements were raided by the Kru and Grebo from their inland chiefdoms. Americo-Liberians promoted religious organizations to set up missions and schools to educate the native populace.[9]
Americo-Liberians formed into a small elite that held disproportionate political power; indigenous Africans were excluded from birthright citizenship in their own land until 1904.
@Cerberus at least an air conditioner just turns on and off.
I don't understand why a fridge or washing machine or dryer or oven would need to be app-enabled.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I can see what the temperature in my house is, I can set the desired temperature, etc.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Nor I.
Perhaps so that you may see whether the washing machine is finished already?
Cape Disappointment is a headland of the Pacific Northwest, located at the extreme southwestern corner of Washington, United States, on the north side of the Columbia River bar and just west of Baker Bay. The point of the cape is located on the Pacific Ocean in Washington's Pacific County, approximately two miles (3.2 km) southwest of the town of Ilwaco. Cape Disappointment sees about 2,552 hours of fog a year—the equivalent of 106 days—making it one of the foggiest places in the U.S.The cape was named on July 6, 1788, by British fur trader John Meares, who was sailing south from Nootka Island...
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