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12:04 AM
@M.A.R. Or...just leave the gas open.
Some crazy people here cause explosions doing just that.
12:18 AM
@RegDwigнt I'm saying no such thing. I have nothing to do with Gsus. Nor with Asus, since I build my own computers.
@Cerberus Aren't you worried about your site now that we're already up to Hurricane Beta this year?
I mean, imagine that Hurricane Delta is really bad, so bad they have to retire it the way they did with Andrew or Katrina, Harvey or Irma. Really hard to write Greek without Delta don't you think?
@tchrist Our AQ has been "moderate" here all day. I hope it clears out soon.
@tchrist I...don't understand this system about naming hurricanes, I'm afraid.
But I'll be worried if you tell me to.
@Cerberus It used to be all women's names in alphabetical order. Now it's alternating genders.
In fact, there used to be a joke about it: Q. Why are hurricanes named after women? A. Because when they come in everything is wet and wild, and when they leave they take your house and your car.
1:11 AM
@M.A.R. I remember that as a kid and thinking that Max was a psychopath. Also the monsters were ugly even when they became nice.
1:49 AM
@Cerberus They cycle through the letters. A name won't repeat for eight years, so they have eight annual lists. They don't use all 26 letters, just 21, because 5 don't have enough names.
Here's the thing. When there is a really, really bad hurricane, they retire that name forever.
The problem is that their backup plan for the 22nd hurricane and beyond is NOT to start in on next year's list. That would throw off the sequence.
Instead they start going through the Greeks. So they burnt all the way through Wilma or Wilfred or who ever it was this year. But the next hurricane didn't get named Ἀριστοτέλης or something like that. It was just plain Alpha. So what are they going to do with a memorably severe Greek hurricane's now infamous name if that happens? They can't genocide an entire letter! Or maybe this would be xenocide. :)
@Robusto Ours was much worse for two or three days, up to 160 at one point. But today it's back down to moderate. Funny when that counts as relief.
as boyfriends are intrinsically useless for women, who want a man as a friend who can serve her more than just a boy, a man who accosts a woman to ask to be her boyfriend is rarely accepted.
a lecherous man can just bring a burden to a woman
I hate that kind of man who can just harass me rather than assisting me when I am busy.
1 hour later…
4:20 AM
Hypocrite is just such a lecherous man
he took the chance of my seeking his help of housing to harass me
a man isn't entitled to harass a woman whom he invites to his home
I have asked my previous advisor:"If I take guest in a man's home, can he have the justification to harass me?" He said:"Harassment isn't justified in any situation since it's harassment."
I have been so swamped from March that I feel high demand for an assistant.
Hypocrite harassed me from time to time but didn't assist me for anything.
if he has extra time to harass me, I prefer he to assist me for laundry, cleaning the house, and fetch meals to me.
a woman really doesn't need a man who serves just as a man.
such a man is just her burden.
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6:01 AM
so hot at 33 degrees Celsius... how to cool down?
6:15 AM
scorchingly hot
Hi folks, I want to make my students write the following sentence during the online exams. Is the sentence good?

I declare that
my work is purely based on my own thoughts without any action against academic ethic.

Any improvement is always welcome. Thank you!
6:31 AM
You're going to have to define: academic ethic
Academic integrity is the moral code or ethical policy of academia. The term was popularized by the late Don McCabe (USA), who is considered to be the "grandfather of academic integrity". Other prominent academic integrity scholars and advocates include Tracey Bretag (Australia) , Cath Ellis (Australia), Sarah Elaine Eaton (Canada), Thomas Lancaster (UK), and Foltýnek, Tomáš (Czechia) and Tricia Bertram Gallant (USA). Academic integrity supports the enactment of educational values through behaviours such as the avoidance of cheating, plagiarism, and contract cheating, as well as the maintenance...
@skullpatrol Very good. Thank you!
@skullpatrol Are you the same person from math.stackexchange.com?
I see.
6:44 AM
I think most of people live more luxuriously than me.
They wouldn't bear being in a room at 33 degrees Celsius without air conditioner on.
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8:48 AM
@CaptainBohemian I would hate being in a room with a temp above 24 C
9:18 AM
Q: Are chupacabras of extraterrestrial origin?

Nicholas MarshallThroughout North and South America, thousands of people have witnessed chupacabras, or goat suckers, strange creatures that mutilate and drain the blood of farm animals. Source: The Puerto Rican students organization at Princeton University. Are chupacabras of extraterrestrial origin? Or are they...

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1:46 PM
@tchrist What a silly idea.
2:00 PM
@CowperKettle You might enjoy this. It's a lampoon of folk songs of the '60s.
@Cerberus I lwys knew you’d pprove of the ide, silly s it my pper.
Just wit until thy com for th. S luck would hv it, Grk hs no c. Not rlly ll tht much hlp though.
Only whn it's th vry first lttr gon missing dos ` ` missing vowl giv us pus. (Hurricn Δ ws mild.)
2:15 PM
Still barely legible.
2 hours later…
3:46 PM
@Robusto Nice!
@Robusto Reminded me of this:
4:05 PM
Thy blyth and cheerfu’ merry muse
Of compliments is sae profuse;
For my good haivens dis me roose
    Sae very finely
It were ill breeding to refuse
    To thank her kindly.
What though sometimes in angry mood,
When she puts on her barlick-hood
Her dialect seems rough and rude;
    Let’s ne’er be flee’t
But take our bit when it is good,
    And buffet w’it.
For git we ettle anes to taught her
And dinna cawmly thole her banter,
She’ll take the flings; verse may grow scanter,
    Syne wi’ great shame
We’ll rue the day that we do want her,
    Then wha’s to blame?
But let us still her kindness culzie,
And wi’ her never breed a toulzie,
For we’ll bring aff but little spulzie
    In sic a barter;
And she’ll be fair to gar us fulzie,
    And cry for quarter.
@Cerberus That verb thole above is cognate with Latin tuli of fero.
4:23 PM
That 1719 verse was penned by Scots poet William Hamilton.
What a joy it would be to hear it authentically recited!
It’s his Epistle III to Allen Ramsay, the one that begins Accept my third and last essay / Of rural rhyme, I humbly pray.
It begins so clearly but quickly descends into dialect peppered with culzie and toulzie, splulzie and fulzie.
Which respectively mean flatter and fight, plunder and defeat.
William Hamilton (1665? – 24 May 1751) was a Scottish poet. He wrote comic, mock-tragic poetry such as "The Last Dying Words of Bonny Heck" - a once-champion hare coursing greyhound in the East Neuk of Fife who was about to be hanged, for growing too slow. It is written in anglified Scots, with a sprightly narrative and wry comic touches. == Life == Hamilton was born in Gilbertfield, Cambuslang, Scotland. In the Familiar Epistles he exchanged with Allan Ramsay, he modestly acknowledges the limitations of his own muse. Ramsay singles out Heck as he suggests there is room for all sorts in poetry...
4:45 PM
@Robusto ah come on now, we all know you're all about assus, and there's no shame in admitting.
And no, I won't even link to Sir Mix-A-Lot, tempted as I might be right now.
Instead I will post this. Just because I can.
4:58 PM
Word of the day: chrysostom (golden mouth)
I head of John Chrysostom in Russian, but never ventured to actually read about him. I only heard the name, Zlatoust (golden mouth)
Turns out he was quite famous, but sadly was antisemitic.
5:52 PM
@tchrist Most odd!
Perfect stems are almost never used when forming English words from Latin.
Not to mention the spelling.
6:11 PM
@Cerberus I said cognate to not descendent of.
Fero is suppletive.
See the last sentence:
> A suppletive paradigm consisting of two different roots.

The present stem is from Proto-Italic *ferō, from Proto-Indo-European *bʰéreti (“to bear, carry”), from the root *bʰer-. Cognates include Sanskrit भरति (bhárati), Ancient Greek φέρω (phérō), Old English beran (English bear).

The perfect stem, originally of tollō, is from Proto-Italic *tetolai, from Proto-Indo-European *tetólh₂e (“to be holding up”), from the root *telh₂-. The stem of lātus has the same root, reduced from Proto-Italic *tlātos, from Proto-Indo-European *tl̥h₂tós. It is cognate with English thole (“to endure”).
I know that OPs should provide sufficient context, and here's a thing--actually read it...maybe out loud, I dunno. But why do people who just must answer, for whatever reason, refuse to C&P the effin' paragraph... I remember our teacher trying to explain contextual clues, and we were like, 'Yeah, we know; we had Sesame Street.' I don't get it...the guessing game.
@KannE The poor shall be with you always.
@tchrist Ohh I see.
Yes, fero is quite suppletive.
I had no idea there was an English cognate.
I didn't even know tul- and la- were related.
@tchrist All the poor I know are perceptive to a fault, if that's what street smart means. Just venting. I remember answering for no apparent reason; it happens.
6:26 PM
@Cerberus That surprised me as well.
I had always thought it merged three originals not two.
6:55 PM
is there a noun from the adjective snide?
Snidely Whiplash is the archenemy of Dudley Do-Right in the Dudley Do-Right of the Mounties segments of the animated television series The Rocky and Bullwinkle Show (1959–64) conceived by American animator Jay Ward.The character was voiced by Hans Conried in the original cartoon series. Alfred Molina played Whiplash in the 1999 live-action film version Dudley Do-Right.Whiplash is the stereotypical villain in the style of stock characters found in silent movies and earlier stage melodrama, wearing black clothing and a top hat and with a handlebar moustache. Whiplash's henchman, Homer, usually wears...
@tchrist definitely helpful
@Anush It's actually the same word.
> 1972 L. Henderson Cage until Tame xii. 103 Tolly's not a snide, he's better than most, and he's been bloody unlucky.
how interesting!
Just as someone who's always scolding can be called "a scold", so too can someone who's always snide be called "a snide".
7:05 PM
Can you say, I responded to a snide comment with snide?
Well, I wouldn't.
> I responded to a snide comment in kind.
OED sense noun B3 is a mass noun, I would say.
Consider snark.
> 3. Hypocrisy, pretence; malicious gossip.
1902 G. H. Lorimer Lett. Merchant vii. 90 Courtesy without condescension,..simplicity without snide.
1966 New Statesman 8 Apr. 499/2 She analysed..the nasty state of affairs on the gossip beat. The result was spectacular—some of the popular papers changed the titles of their columns, keyhole snide was banned, [etc.].
> 2. A base, contemptible person; a swindler, cheat, liar.
1874 Hotten's Slang Dict. (rev. ed.) 299 ‘He's a snide,’ though this seems but a contraction of snide 'un.
1883 J. Hay Bread-winners xix. 297 ‘I am right glad I got here to save you from that—’ he paused, searching for a word which would be descriptive and yet not improper in the presence of a lady,..‘that snide.’
1919 Dial. Notes 5 67 That fellow is a snide, do not trust him.
1935 W. H. Auden & C. Isherwood Dog beneath Skin ii. iii. 99 Young Waters is playing too. He's no snyde at the game.
The OED doesn't know where it came from. Wiktionary suggests it may derive from a regional Hiberno-English verb snithe meaning to cut or cut off.
> (transitive, now chiefly dialectal, Northern England) To cut; to make an incision; to cut off; to lance or amputate; to cut up; to cut so as to kill; to slay an animal; to hew; to cut stone; to cut hair; to cut corn; to reap; to mow.
Snithe a piece off with thy knife.
> From Middle English snithen, from Old English snīþan (“to cut, make an incision, cut off, lance or amputate, cut up or to pieces, cut so as to kill, slay an animal, hew down, cut stone, hew, cut hair, cut corn, reap, mow”), from Proto-Germanic *snīþaną (“to cut”), from Proto-Indo-European *sneyt- (“to cut”). Cognate with Saterland Frisian sniede (“to cut”), West Frisian snije (“to cut”), Dutch snijden (“to cut, carve, intersect”), Low German snieden (“to cut”), German schneiden (“to cut, trim, slice”), Swedish snida (“to carve, engrave”), Icelandic sníða (“to trim, tailor”).
But the OED entry hasn't been updated since 1912, either.
> "Don't be snitty!"
Many of the English sn-/sm- words have curious ancient connections.
i think snark is a great option
thank you
Tolkien used one of them for smials and Smeagol and Smaug.
> Smials were the hobbit-holes tunneled into earth mounds and hills.

> The word smial is an invention of Tolkien based on the Old English word smygel. Smial is a translation of the Hobbitish word trân (Rohirric trahan "burrow").[5]

Tolkien explained in his Guide to the Names in The Lord of the Rings the origin of the name Sméagol in the lemma on smials:

"Smials. A word peculiar to hobbits (not Common Speech), meaning 'burrow'; leave unchanged. It is a form that the Old English word smygel 'burrow' might have had, if it had survived. The same element appears in Gollum's real name, Sméagol."
But think of all the nasty sn- words there are!
snag, snit, sneer, snake, snarl, snark, snatch, sneak, sneck, snicker-snack, snip, sneg, sneeze, snipe, snick, snide, snark, sneer
snirt, snort
> Antarctica is covered by a huge ice cap containing 70 percent of Earth's fresh water.
7:20 PM
Is the omission of the relative pronoun possible here? Asking for a friend
I'm confusing myself
@M.A.R. Which one where?
@tchrist nasnty
snot, snore, snout, sniff
@tchrist the sentence I quoted above. It doesn't sit right with me
7:23 PM
@M.A.R. I'm asking what relative pronoun would make it sit better, and where you would sneak it in.
@tchrist ". . . which contains 70 percent . . ."
Funny you raise the issue. It was also raised by some NNS who didn't feel happy for the same reason as you.
Never quite grasped the whole essential non-essential classification of clauses. I just went by what made sense
@tchrist ooh, reassuring to be part of a hivemind
> Antarctica is covered by a huge ice cap containing 70 percent of Earth's fresh water.
Antarctica is covered by a huge ice cap that contains 70 percent of Earth's fresh water.
Antarctica is covered by a huge ice cap which contains 70 percent of Earth's fresh water.
Antarctica is covered by a huge ice cap, which contains 70 percent of Earth's fresh water.
Antarctica is covered by a huge ice cap, one which just happens to contain 70 percent of Earth's fresh water.
I find NNS don't like -ing verbs used in this way, but I have not been knowing why not.
@tchrist so does your little squad mean it's feasible?
@tchrist I find other sentences with -ing natural
7:27 PM
@M.A.R. Do you find all those close to synonymous with one another?
"Compounds containing the alcohol functional group are mildly basic"
@tchrist well, the last one is expressing all sorts of things but yes, they all mean almost the same thing to me
I can make a dozen sentences with "containing" used like that but this sentence just feels weird.
I'm just confusing myself over a nitpick over a topic I never bothered to understand that well.
My front door is blocked by a huge Amazon box containing 70 percent of Earth's fresh water.
Would a person giving you a hard time bother you coming before breakfast cooking outdoors?
I think I have syntactic satiety.
@tchrist Bezos is such a capitalist.
@tchrist well, I found this sentence to be natural. Whatever
@tchrist darn raccoons
Actually, what's that, "breakfast"? Such an alien concept
No school does spoil students.
@M.A.R. Oh have they made it to you yet? I knew they were endemic in Europe now.
Mark thought he'd get a good job dressing up for the occasion.
@tchrist Nope, here we just deal with the stray doggies and kitties
7:40 PM
@M.A.R. Don't the pigs eat them?
No animal control
You just need more hungry eagles.
@tchrist I don't know how many pigs are inside the official borders of Iran but there shouldn't be many
@tchrist whoaaa, that escalated quickly
@M.A.R. I didn't mean your martian police force.
The kitties sometimes do an opera solo at 4 a.m.
One chasing the other up a tree or a wall
7:43 PM
Sarigol National Park. Wild boars.
@tchrist turned out it's Venus we should be on the lookout for
I'm having Gateway vibes
A single scifi I've read this year and it's about ancient civilizations on Venus
@M.A.R. Venus has always been the more perilous to Man than her foil.
Or rather, what remained of them in the story
So hot.
@tchrist dunno what you're referencing but Greek and Roman Gods were even bigger assholes than Norse gods
7:47 PM
@M.A.R. Aphrodite and Ares. Venus and Penis.
I wouldn't at all be surprised if Zeus is Trump's ancestor.
Have you read Ilium and Olympos?
@tchrist plot twist: these were the billionaires of that era
It's a diptych.
Ilium/Olympos is a series of two science fiction novels by Dan Simmons. The events are set in motion by beings who appear to be ancient Greek gods. Like Simmons' earlier series, the Hyperion Cantos, it is a form of "literary science fiction"; it relies heavily on intertextuality, in this case with Homer and Shakespeare as well as references to Marcel Proust's À la recherche du temps perdu (or In Search of Lost Time) and Vladimir Nabokov's novel Ada or Ardor: A Family Chronicle. As with most of his science fiction and in particular with Hyperion, Ilium demonstrates that Simmons writes in the soft...
@tchrist sure. One's part of the hip bone and the other is a huge wart on Mars
Three times Mt. Everest. Fact nugget of the day!
@tchrist well I haven't read the last series you recommended yet
Busy procrastinating
7:50 PM
I suspect you would like it. It's not really a series per se. It's just a single novel published in two parts.
Haven't even read Dunk and Egg
Those are better in some ways than the last two books, especially the third tale.
And I haven't read Shakespeare. I tried
Everyone was talking weird
Talk weird they do.
Or a piece of them
7:53 PM
Try A Midsummer Night’s Dream. It's not Othello or Lear.
The soldiers got high on some weed and hallucinated a trolling ghost
Spoiler alert: The character named Bottom gets polymorphed into an ass.
@M.A.R. Only if the weed is fly agaric.
@tchrist grandpa jokes
@M.A.R. No but it's true. That's the point. It's funny and punny.
7:56 PM
Apparently it has a mediocre movie too but what Shakespeare play doesn't
@tchrist I meant Shakespeare, not you:)
You're younger than me
Oh I guess they might have been.
@tchrist OK OK a film.
7:58 PM
If romcoms are easy money, why not Shakespeare romcoms
@Robusto seen the DnD movie?
@M.A.R. No.
It's glorious. "The Room" style glorious
I laughed from the beginning till the end
But surely nobody can beat 38 years spent on a single D&D game.
@M.A.R. Ever been rommed but not commed?
It has Jeremy Irons screaming at the top of his lungs. Comedy gold
8:01 PM
@Robusto Doesn't seem so strange. It's just the same campaign, the same world.
@tchrist no actually. I'd wait a few years before a rom
@RegDwigнt: OK, so it's "Those Were The Days" on a Russian YouTube page sung in Japanese by a nihonjin with Japanese subtitles. Nothing weird about that.
@M.A.R. Most roms are cons.
Not coms.
@tchrist But ... 38 years? The words "get a life" spring to mind.
Commies are crummies
8:02 PM
@Robusto Haven't read it, but perhaps one of us misunderstands.
Well, Kant checked the same daily to-do for forty years.
It's what I thought it was. Not what you think it is.
I suppose I don't care for D&D as much as some others here.
"Playing the same game" is a horrible misrepresentation by CNN.
I haven't played a single board RPG
8:04 PM
Assuming DnD is that
It's guided, cooperative storytelling. With dice. That's all.
@tchrist it's not?
Hey, I like games as much as the next person. I do get tired of them, though.
Sudoku is overrated
8:06 PM
Board games are traditionally a subset of tabletop games that involve counters or pieces moved or placed on a pre-marked surface or "board", according to a set of rules. In common parlance, however, a board game need not necessarily contain a physical board. Some games are based on pure strategy, but many contain an element of chance; and some are purely chance, with no element of skill. Games usually have a goal that a player aims to achieve. Early board games represented a battle between two armies, and most modern board games are still based on defeating opponents in terms of counters, winning...
@tchrist so DnD isn't a board game?
I wouldn't know
38 years ago I was playing text-based RPG games over a 300-baud modem.
As I said, not a single game
@M.A.R. No, that's a different thing.
I know there's an icosahedral? dice
So I assumed it was something like snakes and ladders except with a whole rulebook and way more extensive
And they sometimes dress up and go LARPing and stuff
8:11 PM
@Reg: BTW, if you want a lesson in how Japanese speakers honor the syllable durations, that video is a good example. She enunciates ever single one, but because she's singing she extends those at the end of phrases etc. The point being that they are all there. If you can read any Japanese at all, just follow along and you'll see.
@M.A.R. Dice is plural. Singular is die.
One die, two dice.
Or, as Ambrose Bierce said: "A cube of cheese no bigger than a die / May bait a trap to catch the nibbling mie."
@Robusto oh, right
I keep forgetting that. Now if I played something with dice often . . .
That's why we go over this stuff.
Game Designers' Workshop, SPI, and Avalon Hill made board games. Titan. Unentschieden. Kriegspiel. Panzer Blitz. Luftwaffe. Drang Nach Osten. Kriegspiel. The Battles of Bull Run. Dresden. Fall of Rome. Citadel. Kingmaker. Rail Baron. Squad Leader. Fortress Europa.
Those are board games.
@tchrist I played the Avalon-Hill games way back in high school.
@Robusto Didn't we all, didn't we all.
8:19 PM
Some of them were really poorly thought out. For example, the battle of Midway really doesn't work for the US if you can't have the element of surprise.
Yes, this is true. Many games are made now, often much better.
My point is that a board game is a fundamentally different thing from a rôle-playing game.
To conflate them creates category errors.
This gives you a good super-high-level overview of the disparate categories:
This list includes publishers (not manufacturers, contrary to title, see external links) of card games, board games, miniatures games, wargames, role-playing games, and collectible card games, and companies which sell accessories for use in those games. Not included in this list are companies that simply resell products of other companies, although many of the companies listed here do have online stores that sell their own products. == 0–9 == 1i Productions – board games 3W – wargames and wargaming magazines == A == Ad Astra Games – wargames Agents of Gaming – wargames Agglo – magnetic ...
In D&D the board is not the thing. It's merely a tabula rasa.
The DM will create extensive campaign maps and background info.
8:23 PM
Through the door there came familiar laughter
I saw your face and heard you call my name
Oh my friend we're older but no wiser
For in our hearts the dreams are still the same
@M.A.R. Hey, is it just that you're one of those kids who when they "games" means only "computer games", and who therefore use "board games" for anything that it NOT a computer game?
Like bridge or poker. With, you know, these things they call "playing cards". Are those board games to you?
@M.A.R. > A box without hinges, key, or lid,
Yet golden treasure inside is hid.
What's the answer?
This too is a game. One that works without computers, without electricity, without even light itself.
@M.A.R. Cities have I but houses lack; mountains are mine yet trees unseen; water runs through me but fishes few. What am I?
At its best, D&D is more like the riddle game than it is like Monopoly.
Everything that matters takes place in the mind.
Q: I don't understand why the ING form is used in these examples

Tom messi This is my last night working here. There is a problem sending this email. I doubt the chances of success facing him. Can anybody tell me that Why 'ING' form is used in "working, sending, facing ", thank you very much

It was that question I was thinking of.
8:51 PM
Maybe because ING is trademarked?
The ING Group (Dutch: ING Groep) is a Dutch multinational banking and financial services corporation headquartered in Amsterdam. Its primary businesses are retail banking, direct banking, commercial banking, investment banking, wholesale banking, private banking, asset management, and insurance services. With total assets of US$1.1 trillion, it is one of the biggest banks in the world, and consistently ranks among the top 30 largest banks globally. It is among the top ten in the list of largest European companies by revenue. ING is the Dutch member of the Inter-Alpha Group of Banks, a cooperative...
See? The Dutch are at fault, as usual. @Cerberus take note.
9:24 PM
@tchrist Maybe or maybe not. I never played any game more sophisticated than connect the dots on paper and Doodle Jump on an Android device. I see the immediate thrill that would accompany them, but can't dedicate myself to doing any serious amount of gaming to be called a gamer.
(And I do note that "gamer" almost exclusively refers to basement dwellers that spend hours in front of their screens yelling at others rather than chess grandmasters)
@tchrist Minecraft!
@tchrist they're bored games
Unless I bet my left leg on a card game
@M.A.R. No, grasshopper: a map.
@tchrist Caramelized chocolate
@tchrist Minecraft has maps
@M.A.R. No, grasshopper: an ǽg.
Caramel tastes better
But how does one caramelize chocolate, pray tell?
Oh, I see what you mean.
9:30 PM
Ich gewinne
@tchrist It's probably something I'd be into actually but am too lazy and content with my own routine to try out
I'd also probably need to find interested people. Here any game that's not on a computer is hopscotch
@M.A.R. Du hast gewonnen?
@M.A.R. Hopscotch eggs?
Although, we do have some fun games that I'm told are 'traditional'
@tchrist stop tempting me dammit. The day is almost over and I won't be able to burn the calories
Scotch eggs.
You'll have to prepare the chocolate fondue yourself.
9:34 PM
Burn Perspolis down on every turn.
Haft-sang du sagst, aber was ist Halbblut? Weiß nicht.
Sickle cells
Wasn't Persepolis one of Xeres’s poleis? It's still around?
I dunno about the Xeres guy but he's probably a plagiarist
This guy is apparently a town in Spain
Persepolis (, Old Persian: 𐎱𐎠𐎼𐎿, Pārsa) was the ceremonial capital of the Achaemenid Empire (ca. 550–330 BC). It is situated 60 kilometres (37 mi) northeast of the city of Shiraz in Fars Province, Iran. The earliest remains of Persepolis date back to 515 BC. It exemplifies the Achaemenid style of architecture. UNESCO declared the ruins of Persepolis a World Heritage Site in 1979. == Name == Persepolis is derived from Ancient Greek: Περσέπολις, romanized: Persepolis, a compound of Pérsēs (Πέρσης) and pólis (πόλις), meaning "the Persian city" or "the city of the Persians". To the ancient Persians...
9:41 PM
Perspolis is the wreck people transfer their diaries to over at Shiraz
Wasn't Xerox a king of Persia back in the day? I think he copied himself eventually.
Xerxes I (Old Persian: 𐎧𐏁𐎹𐎠𐎼𐏁𐎠, romanized: Xšaya-ṛšā; c. 518 – August 465 BC), commonly known as Xerxes the Great, was the fourth King of Kings of the Achaemenid Empire, ruling from 486 to 465 BC. He was the son and successor of Darius the Great (r. 522 – 486 BC) and his mother was Atossa, a daughter of Cyrus the Great (r. 550 – 530 BC), the first Achaemenid king. Like his father and predecessor Darius I, he ruled the empire at its territorial apex. He ruled from 486 BC until his assassination in 465 BC at the hands of Artabanus, the commander of the royal bodyguard. Xerxes I is nota...
Per se polis, whatever
@tchrist See, you dropped an important guttural x
Tolja it was one of his.
@tchrist That was the original. But Xerox did copy himself. I think he invented the copier.
9:42 PM
Wasn't Persepolis built in Darius's time?
You're making me doubt my (?) history
@Robusto Brothers and sisters have I none but that man's father is my father's son.
Das ist aber toll.
Dies ist Ansteckend
I had to look up "contagious"
O' gods of ESL, forgive me
9:44 PM
@M.A.R. I think we all did at some point.
Knowing what Ansteckend means should be every man's life goal
@M.A.R. Where? You don't like Ξερξης or you don't like the quite reasonable Spanish version Jerjes /ˈxerxes/? I can't help what the Ænglisc are about.
Seriously, it's rolls off the tongue so well
7 mins ago, by tchrist
Wasn't Persepolis one of Xeres’s poleis? It's still around?
Oh I did, didn't I?
At first I thought you were referring to that asteroid Ceres
Which is named after some mythology crap but let's ignore that for now
9:47 PM
I'm perfectly capable of pronouncing /ˈxerxes/, but you aren't supposed to during COVID.
So this German guy asks a German woman "Was ist das Schönste an der deutschen Sprache?" and she replies "Die Vielfalt würde ich sagen. Man kann sehr viel ausdrücken." So my question is: Isn't this true of anybody's native tongue?
@M.A.R. I thought that was a planet minor?
Hmm, maybe
@tchrist Why not both
@M.A.R. Dessert topping and floor wax.
I know that my Azeri Turkish feels so riddled with borrowings from Persian and Arabic that I sometimes feel crippled.
9:49 PM
@M.A.R. You have a terminal case of dropping terminal punctuat
My demented grandmother has a larger vocabulary size in Azeri Turkish than I ever will
The language is being forgotten
Another .
@tchrist taking some artistic libertie
When you don't finish your sentences, you leave me holding my breath for the unresolved cadence.
I adopted it from someone and couldn't fix myself
9:51 PM
It's like finishing a piece on the leading tone. It leaves the audience unfulft.
The period has turned into some sort of emphasis for my internet idio . . . lang?
Da fuck yusein.
@tchrist Have you read Cormac McCarthy?
@M.A.R. nope.
He writes well, but hates punctuation.
9:52 PM
Periods are for girls. Regency usually.
Makes his stuff really difficult to read sometimes. Maybe unnecessarily so
@tchrist Can't argue with thatDOT
So there was this intellectual opinion piece or scientific study shrug about this phenomenon on the internet. Punctuation has evolved to mean business for some people.
If I end my sentences with a period, I'm being gravely serious and/or blunt. In a "f*ck off!" sort of way
@Robusto I bet you can kind of understand a lot of this:
For me, I'm just very very inconsistent.
@M.A.R. what language are people speaking instead? Or are you just talking about replacing word by word?
10:11 PM
@Mitch the most common words are often Turkish, the grammar is Turkish and different from the one spoken in Turkey or Azerbaijan. But many many words have been eventually replaced by their Persian counterparts. When a Turkish government official is trying to speak in Turkish, most of their phrases are in fact Persian, entire phrases, with only a preposition and a verb in Turkish
Funny thing, we call rats and mice "poopers".
I'm almost certain my grandsons would have an even more limited vocabulary than mine. It's sad.
I'd later make a hobby of learning and committing to the Turkish spoken in Turkey so as to preserve a glimpse of my mother tongue
10:27 PM
@M.A.R. Could you make long recordings of her talking about various topics?
@Cerberus nope, she's not talkative at all
We could get her to say two paragraphs about something. She has short-term memory loss so she'd go on a tangent about how she loves us, when she can recognize me of course.
@M.A.R. Tangents on memories from her childhood can be good?
@Cerberus hmm, I'll probably try. She keeps thinking it's a few days after her mother's death, which was 35 years ago or so I'm told.
So she often can't recognize us and thinks she's being neglected
10:33 PM
My grandparents could still talk coherently about the past while unable to dress themselves or remember our names.
She has severe arthritis which essentially almost cripples her which is a big bummer
sigh grandmas are the best.
Probably knows some unique knitting techniques
But she can no longer knit?
Knitting for too long would hurt her fingers probably. I have this pair of underpants that were otherwise unsalvageably, savagely torn, but she fixed it like it was no problem
I hate how mending cheap clothing is much more expensive than buying new.
I sew some tears when it seems feasible.
And I have a friend with a sewing machine who makes her own clothes, and she can sometimes help me mend something.
@Cerberus well, this pair essentially had no knees, torn in the back and the bottom, and it's the sort of comfy flexible fabric that I have no idea what to call but I think should be hard to knit

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