are you happy?

caring about others isn't really easy.

having people taking your concerns as their own isn't easy.

the worst is when people harass you.

@Xanne Don't ISPs usually give the IP of a region from the same pool, so even if they can't pinpoint the exact location, it's almost exact?

It's like being cool with brushing your teeth but brushing and flossing is a no-no

@M.A.R. Yes, ISPs are allotted a block. But that’s not where the orivacy/identity is lost. The location of your phone is known to the network from signals it sends out, whether you’re using it or not.

known to any network, not just your ISP.

Also—well, do you want more, or will you have trouble sleepinh?

sleeping, that is

@Xanne I've made peace with the fact that either my online and offline activity will be absolutely traceable for people that try and have the means, or it will be a horrifying nightmare.

so hot

hungry again

> In U.S., 87% Approve of Black-White Marriage, vs. 4% in 1958

This is hard to grasp. What was presumably so wrong about mixed marriage?

@CowperKettle bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-pace-of-social-change

@CowperKettle a lot of white people back then were very racist. so the thought of a black person having children with a white person was abhorent

> I broke one of my fingers at work today. On the other hand, everything is OK.

> I put my right shoe on my left foot earlier, now the shoe is on the other foot

> I broke my foot today and now I'm hopping mad.

I have heard of wiping robots.

I don't know if there are rubbing robots.

I hope ants don't come here.

R.I.P. Vera Lynn

I only knew about her from her song at the end of Dr Strangelove.

@MattE.Эллен But half of the USA was the so called Northern States. I thought that they were more accepting. Curious.

Maybe it was a longstanding tradition to avoid mixed marriage.

@CowperKettle I'm not American history scholar, so I can't say.

@CowperKettle Racism wasn't (and isn't) confined to the South. Only the most obvious and brutal forms of it were.

Broadly speaking, blue-collar areas of the North are likely to see a lot of racism, especially in areas that were once white and are now mixed.

BTW, there can be little difference between the southern areas of so-called "northern" states (Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, etc.) and the deep South. I recall a time when my wife (who is racially Asian) and I were traveling from Chicago to St. Louis with our newborn son and stopped for dinner on the way. We were met with hostile stares and silence, and after waiting 45 minutes without success for someone to serve us we decided to leave.

@CowperKettle Reality is complicated.

Most abolitionists (of slavery) were in the North. But that didn't stop you every day person from being just as racist up there. But being racist (in the North) doesn't mean you're racist in the same way as in the South. In the South they had laws on the books against mixed race marriage until the 1960's (That's the Loving vs State of Virginia in the picture).

-Why- were there such laws? or more generally -why- did people think it was strange?

People used to beat their kids for being left handed.

Eh, I read the other day that people believed silly things like the child of an 'interracial' marriage would be gray

@M.A.R. Well there is a mix, just not of the labels.

Sometimes I wonder, was the past really this brutal?

I mean did fathers really beat their kids on a whim, ditto schoolmasters etc.?

There was an article in Scientific American a while back about how you could tell how long a population had been at what latitude and whether they had immigrated there from another latitude, by the shade of brown/amount of melanin

@M.A.R. Because there's no video of it?

@Mitch No just, how did kids, for example, get over all of it and 'understand' the tough love and love their seniors?

As a swede it is always shocking to see american numbers by race.

@M.A.R. yeah, i don't get that. wouldn't they just be scared all the time.

Caucasian is weird also

right

I mean they eat yogurt

so weird

Maybe it's a combination of the grandparents' golden age fallacy and our arrogant disregard of the past?

@Mitch I'm having yogurt right now and I'm at best a very tanned Brad Pitt

@M.A.R. or maybe it's kids these days are snowflakes and they need some tough lovin

That's true as well, still

How can every dad love the granddad if he beat him over petty things?

@M.A.R. When they do a biopic of Brad Pitt, they'll tap me to play his younger middle age.

Wouldn't there be contempt?

@M.A.R. Yep. I don't get it.

@Mitch You look . . . too hairy

And slightly, how can I put it.

@M.A.R. The outdoorsy Brad Pitt

Obesity is a serious problem

@M.A.R. Oh. I see. Well, I'd be playing a slimmer version of Brad Pitt.

Awkward smile Go get 'em, oxen

👍

That's just a picture. In reality I'm a very furry sheep dog who if you shaved would be skin and bones.

It's all for the camera

Pics or it didn't happen

@M.A.R. Actually it was worse.

Schools in the 19th century were often quite brutal to children. I recall reading about one schoolmaster who, in his own telling of it, was feeling out of sorts one morning and didn't feel better about the day until he had thoroughly thrashed some young boy with a birch rod. Different time, but same species.

Does this mis-scan?

> The message should help whoever's fault it is to fix the underlying problem.

I don't think it can help the fault to fix the problem, but perhaps I have semantic satiety.

@tchrist I don't have semantic satiety and that sentence's feet are not really on the ground, at least not both of them.

Yeah really.

The original is actually worse.

> The code should help the receiver of the error figure out whose fault it is and the message should help whoever's fault it is to fix the underlying problem.

Perhaps better would be "The message should help the problem's author to fix the underlying problem."

I feel like they may have wanted to use whosever there but couldn't quite work it out.

Yeah.

Thanks.

@tchrist It doesn’t bother me. Whoever is the object of help, and the “‘s fault it is” just identifies.

@Xanne But whoever can never be an object. :)

"You can help him fix the problem." not "You can help he fix the problem."

@tchrist Well, unless you take Lawler’s view and forget the ‘whom’ stuff. I think whoever r

whoever is funtioning as an object there.

whoever works for me

What's the difference between whoever’s and whosever?

it's like "y'all's"

you know, second person plural possessive.

it fits fine.

and 'whosever'... that doesn't sound like anything to me.

> Whosever the footprint may be, the story is gospel among Mahometans.

hm.. repeating whosever a couple times, it seems OK now.

geg

heh

But that poor guy still has a problem, and it's someone else's fault.

Probably Hu's.

And that someone better fix it.

@tchrist That still needs a possessive: whosoever's.

@Robusto whosesoever

- whosever, no?

OED says whosesoever is archaic for whosever.

We have a guy on my team named Hu. He gets a lot of the blame, at least aurally, whenever somebody asks whose to blame. :)

Whosesoever? Minesoever? Hissoever?

@tchrist Chinese coders often bear the brunt of the jokes, I've found.

OED attests all of howsoever, ifsoever, whatsoever, whencesoever, whensoever, whereinsoever, wheresoever, whethersoever, whichsoever, whithersoever, whomsoever, whosesoever, whosoever.

Yeah, but there is plenty in the OED that is of no practical value for non-etymologists.

@RegDwigнt: ^

Das hat mich interessiert.

Actually: however, howsoever, howsomever, whatever, whatsoever, whatsomever, whencesoever, whencever, whenever, whensoever, whensomever, whereinsoever, wheresoever, wheresomever, wheretoever, wherever, whethersoever, whichever, whichsoever, whilever, whithersoever, whoever, whomever, whomsoever, whosesoever, whosever, whosoever, whosomever, whyever.

Whomsoever works. But @tchrist , you wouldn’t have trouble with “whoever is at fault”, would you? So this message is just a little messier.

Whoever severs whose server serves Hu's....

@Xanne course not, that's fine

@tchrist Now you're going several degrees beyond semantic satiation.

Fox in socks.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body, mostly punctuation marks in body, repeating characters in title (187): eeeeeeeeeeeeeee ✏️ by Ayoub Bihi on english.SE

Six sick bricks tick. Six sick chicks tock.

New word I saw...

Caucasity

like audacity, but... you know, Chad.

My apologies to all Chads.

@Mitch Even hanging ones?

@tchrist: Deveria estar agora na Argentina e no Brasil. Não aqui, trabalhando. Do Portuguese prepositions need gender agreement?

@Robusto Prepositions, no, but articles yes. If you mean like na Argentina? That's a contraction for em + a where the article agrees with the noun, just as no Brasil is a contraction for em + o where again the article agrees with the noun.