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2:59 AM
> Note how long the virus may remain on and inside a face mask. This is why you should treat a face mask like a reversed pair of underwear. Be very careful when handling it. Avoid touching your face with the outside of the mask.
"A reversed pair of underwear"?!
Face masks make for strange undies, even reversed.
As for touching your face with it, I can't even.
 
 
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5:52 AM
hypocrites are those who doesn't act and speak consistently.
I hate hypocrites.
that guy who smokes a lot and whose home I previously inhabit is a hypocrite.
I think if a person doesn't compensate you anything when he reneges on his promise, his promise isn't really effective.
There is an idiom "a promise deserves gold of one thousand".
that hypocrite has reneged on a lot of his promise.
and I almost don't want to see him.
he is the same as I talked with him on web in that he only says pleasing words but seldom really realized them.
he said he can help him whenever I call him, but do you think this is possible?
when I asked him to bring food to me in rain, he didn't do that.
actually I am hungry now and want a meal delivery, but I don't want to call him, because I hate to contact him.
his home is really a deplorable place so that I think that he invites others to his home is disrespecting them.
I think smoking is a vice.
 
 
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8:39 AM
"opprobrium" is synonymous with "ignominy".
 
9:36 AM
@tchrist Everything has germs on it Trying to picture keyboard as reversed underwear
 
 
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11:17 AM
"wheedle", "cajole", "bamboozle" are synonyms.
also "canoodle"
 
 
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1:58 PM
Education should domesticate a person, making him less wild.
 
2:49 PM
I get tired
 
See how small Germany is in comparison to Russia
Russia =~ 48 * Germany
It's Ann interesting tool: thetruesize.com
 
3:35 PM
What do we call it when one pupil lets othe pupil to copy his solve homework?
 
3:48 PM
@CowperKettle Cheating.
 
4:00 PM
@Gigili Equatorial Guinea doesn't seem so small now, does it.
It's as big as Greenland.
 
4:24 PM
@tchrist Yes, but what is the most typical word in the sentence "I had a deskmate, a girl named Yulia in my childhood, I always let her ___ my completed homework"
 
@CowperKettle Copy?
 
Yeah.
 
5:30 PM
@Jasper Thank you!
It's just that in Russian there's a special word for this
 
5:49 PM
very sleepy
 
6:07 PM
@CowperKettle copy
 
Can we use the word "mentalist" when describing a situation to not think deeply and feel as a philosopher, and say for instance, "You don't need to be a mentalist to rephrase it!"
I am not an English expert, though.
to not go far and think about it equivalent in one-word?
for editorial purpose.
 
@ⵃⴰⵎⵎⴰⴷⵣⵉⴷⴰⵏⵉ I would say no.
That's not what it means.
 
especially for a scientific article.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeating characters in body (73): is funnest a word by user386533 on english.SE
 
6:25 PM
@Cerberus then?
I am searching for the right word.
 
I'm not sure I understand the context well enough.
Nor if it is possible to express what you want in a single word (why?).
 
I want to introduce an idea in physics, and tell the reader to not think about it far away, .i.e., just think in the principles.
 
What, exactly, do you mean by "far away"?
I've read your explanation five times, but I'm still not sure.
 
Maybe they meant 'further'?
 
Especially not with respect to rephrasing.
 
6:44 PM
@cerberus Woof! Woof!
 
@Cerberus @DecapitatedSoul far away, means deeply
in terms of what I said previously.
 
To rephrase means to rewrite, in different words.
 
I think the word I am searching about applies on this situation while asking you.
 
I'm not sure how you can do that deeply.
@Jasper Woof woof woof.
 
7:17 PM
Shit :/
 
7:54 PM
Hmm.
Could be just because of more testing?
 
@Cerberus wouldn't that be transient?
 
Transient?
 
Number of new daily cases also shows a similar pattern
With increased testing, it would plateau
 
If testing is increasing, so may the number of new daily cases.
How is the number of deaths?
 
Doesn't seem remarkable
@Cerberus Would you have increased testing for twenty days in a row?
I think it would be more like increasing test numbers so they cap at a higher threshold everyday
 
8:00 PM
@M.A.R. Sure, why not?
If more and more tests become available.
And/or more and more people follow a new testing protocol.
 
Hmm, well, never heard of such news, but worth checking
 
Then again, the number of daily deaths may not be reliable either.
 
Although I disagree with the opinion
Things reopened here only a week ago, not 20 days ago
The real cause of the surge is probably people getting rash IMO
But whatever jab you can take at the regime you don't like, eh
 
8:20 PM
I really have no idea.
 
8:51 PM
 
9:04 PM
When we use the word "Natural science" and when we use "exact science"?
I have a problem translating the name of system of education from my country
 
"Exact science"?! What does that entail? Math?
 
So I'm asking what topics go under "exact science" in your system.
 
studying this branch or field in high school stands for Math, Physics/Chemistry, and Biology
 
Ah. Apart from math, all of those are called natural sciences in English.
I don't think any of those are called an "exact science".
 
9:10 PM
Because in French they call it, "Science Exacte"
 
Ah
The exact sciences, sometimes called the exact mathematical sciences are those sciences "which admit of absolute precision in their results"; especially the mathematical sciences. Examples of the exact sciences are mathematics, optics, astronomy, and physics, which many philosophers from Descartes, Leibniz, and Kant to the logical positivists took as paradigms of rational and objective knowledge. These sciences have been practiced in many cultures from Antiquity to modern times. Given their ties to mathematics, the exact sciences are characterized by accurate quantitative expression, precise...
So yeah it means mathematical sciences.
 
So, it is safe to call it Exact science.
 
> In the early 19th century, the noted German mathematician Johann Carl Friedrich Gauß called mathematics the "queen of the sciences" because it was so successful at uncovering the nature of physical reality. Gauss's observation is even more accurate in today's age of quantum physics, string theory, chaos theory, information technology, and other mathematics-intensive disciplines that have transformed the way we understand and deal with the world.
 
Actually, I am going to include it my resume.
 
I would say exact sciences and natural sciences usually refer to the same thing.
 
9:12 PM
I can never think of math as a science.
 
Hmm, well, English has some unfortunate terms here.
 
Mathematics is an art, the product of human creativity.
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it's a philosophical debate
 
That spookily maps natural forces.
 
Science should be Wissenschaft, which includes all academic disciplines. But it has been restricted to the natural/exact sciences, in a way—and then extended to include many other things, such as sociology.
 
9:14 PM
"Doing mathematics" means creating new formal systems.
 
today, if one considers that, even theoretical physics is an art
 
What do mathematicians do?
 
And the use of the word art for any academic field or discipline, while common in English, still seems infelicitous to me.
 
What can I add to ""Doing mathematics" means creating new formal systems."?!
 
Art history is not art.
 
9:17 PM
@ⵃⴰⵎⵎⴰⴷⵣⵉⴷⴰⵏⵉ Yeah so maybe see if it's customary for people in your field to mention exact science(s) in their resumes. It may well be.
 
I know this in French is allowed.
 
@tchrist Doesn't seem like an excluding definition.
@ⵃⴰⵎⵎⴰⴷⵣⵉⴷⴰⵏⵉ Very well. In your English resume then.
If it indeed enjoys common use, then it should be okay.
Seems as tho it does.
@Cerberus True
 
the problem is our country French is more common
 
But your English resume is not for French speaking people, I assume?
 
9:22 PM
@Cerberus I think it's important to distinguish between those disciplines that follow the scientific method and those that follow strictly logical methods.
 
> "Outside of the closed circle of professional mathematicians, almost nothing is known of the true nature of mathematics or of mathematics research." J.P. King [Ki].
 
I think even different mathematicians have different views of their field of study.
 
> "Those who have never known a professional mathematician may be rather surprised on meeting some, for mathematicians as a class are probably less familiar to the general reader than any other group of brain workers. The mathematician is a much rarer character in fiction than his cousin the scientist." E. T. Bell [Be].
 
@Færd I want to make it universal.
even in my country French is dominant, I can still write it in English
 
@ⵃⴰⵎⵎⴰⴷⵣⵉⴷⴰⵏⵉ Are you from the African continent by chance?
 
9:27 PM
yes you got it.
 
@tchrist The line between math and science is not that sharp. There are some overlaps on the boundaries. Edward Witten, the prominent string-theorist, won the most prestigious award in the world of math.
 
@tchrist from Algeria, North Africa.
 
The fundamental methods are different, for sure, but they often face the same problems and have to borrow each other's lenses.
 
@Cerberus This question troubles me:
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Q: What is "plurisecular"? Can't find this word's meaning, only translations

P. VowkHere's a quote from Robert Hurley's translation of Michel Foucault's History of Sexuality arguing for the historical importance of the anonymous author of My Secret Life: ...he was the most direct and in a way the most naïve representative of a plurisecular injunction to talk about sex. I'v...

 
@ⵃⴰⵎⵎⴰⴷⵣⵉⴷⴰⵏⵉ What is your field of study, if I may ask?
 
9:30 PM
you could of course. I study particle physics (theory)
 
The answers below are correct but it is academese and almost a nonceword. It's not listed in the OED at all and shows up in barely a page worth of English-language listings at Google Books. — lly 8 hours ago
 
@ⵃⴰⵎⵎⴰⴷⵣⵉⴷⴰⵏⵉ That put a smile on my face. That is, in a solid sense, an exact science!
 
@Cerberus It’s a bog-standard, utterly unremarkable classical compound, part of international scientific vocabulary.
 
No, the exact science I want to mention earlier is about my Baccalaureate diploma in high school which was about "exact science".
 
Are people seriously expecting to find every possible combination of classical compounds listed in every workbook? Didn't anybody ever teach them how to read these!?
BTW, the OED does list multisecular. It is not remarkable that someone else chose pluri- over multi-, despite the 1:10 prevalence in English. At least they didn’t choose poly- as can easily be found for this word.
And English has palaeosecular, too.
 
9:34 PM
@ⵃⴰⵎⵎⴰⴷⵣⵉⴷⴰⵏⵉ Oh. That might not be clear to people who don't know French, or are not familiar with that particular system.
Why not mentioning the French name itself? With an asterisk and a quick explanation, if needed.
 
> FR multiséculaire, pluriséculaire, polyséculaire
IT multisecolare, plurisecolare, polisecolare
ES multisecular, plurisecular, polisecular
PT multissecular, plurissecular, polissecular
@Cerberus And while you might grasp at eeuwenoud as more natural in your own tongue, surely those others are not in any fashion outré or undecodable to you!
 
@ⵃⴰⵎⵎⴰⴷⵣⵉⴷⴰⵏⵉ Ultimately, I don't know the answer to your question.
 
Classical compounds and neoclassical compounds are compound words composed from combining forms (which act as affixes or stems) derived from classical Latin or ancient Greek roots. New Latin comprises many such words and is a substantial component of the technical and scientific lexicon of English and other languages, including international scientific vocabulary. For example, bio- combines with -graphy to form biography ("life" + "writing/recording"). == Source of international technical vocabulary == Classical compounds represent a significant source of Neo-Latin vocabulary. Moreover, since...
 
I know It's cumbersome for some people in my country for what I want to do
i.e., they agree with you.
 
Then again, we do have Orwell's imprecation against inkhorn terms like these.
 
9:38 PM
Tweening each other to the end.
 
But you could see me as an "ultra nationalist" if you like.
 
I don't like it being dismissed as "Academese".
 
@ⵃⴰⵎⵎⴰⴷⵣⵉⴷⴰⵏⵉ In what sense? That you are very proud of your nationality?
 
> Classical compounds represent a significant source of Neo-Latin vocabulary. Moreover, since these words are composed from classical languages whose prestige is or was respected throughout the Western European culture, these words typically appear in many different languages. Their widespread use makes technical writing generally accessible to readers who may only have a smattering of the language in which it appears.
 
The idea of French language being the primary foreign language is in question for many people in my country
 
9:40 PM
> multisecular adj. Brit. /ˌmʌltɪˈsɛkjᵿlə/, U.S. /ˌməltiˈsɛkjələr/, /ˌməlˌtaɪˈsɛkjələr/, /ˌməltəˈsɛkjələr/ that has existed for many ages; recurring in, or involving many ages.

* The multisecular stability of its primeval basin.
* A subcontinent that..seems to have gone through the same multisecular trends.
* A multisecular reconceptualization of the kingship took place [in France] from the late medieval period to the eighteenth century.
 
@ⵃⴰⵎⵎⴰⴷⵣⵉⴷⴰⵏⵉ I suppose the Battle of Algiers is still raging on.
I can understand that sentiment.
Have you preserved your pre-colonial languages?
 
of course yes.
Eventhough not 100%
but most likely
We speak Thamazighth
and other people speak Arabic.
 
And the official language of Algeria is French?
 
Berber? What is Thamazighth?
 
yes that's it.
the Barbarian nation's language.
@Færd no, it's Arabic.
 
9:45 PM
Ah, I see.
 
on the real world, it's a mixture of Arabic and French.
 
@ⵃⴰⵎⵎⴰⴷⵣⵉⴷⴰⵏⵉ Right. I should have recognized from your handle
> ⵃⴰⵎⵎⴰⴷ ⵣⵉⴷⴰⵏⵉ
Familiar letters!
I can't read it, of course.
 
It's such an ancient and interesting portion of the civilized world.
 
@ⵃⴰⵎⵎⴰⴷⵣⵉⴷⴰⵏⵉ What do people feel about Arabic being the official language? Any resentments there?
 
9:48 PM
Yes, there are people who feel bad about that, they see it another colonized language
 
I can see why they would feel that way.
 
this is an active debate.
 
@ⵃⴰⵎⵎⴰⴷⵣⵉⴷⴰⵏⵉ I see. But I guess you have more Arabic native speakers than French native speakers?
 
Augustine of Hippo's Latin was also an imported language.
 
:) After all, I am one of those who wishes English to dominate the education instead of French.
 
9:51 PM
The world has changed. English will take you more places in more places than will French.
 
don't take it furious though :)
 
No worries: fury and furor alike escape me.
 
@tchrist That's my opinion
 
The term Barbary Coast (also Barbary, Berbery or Berber Coast) was used by Europeans from the 16th century to the early 19th to refer to the coastal regions of North Africa, which were inhabited by Berber people. The land is part of the modern nations of Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia and Libya. The English term "Barbary" and its European varieties (Barbaria, Berbérie, etc.) could refer to all Berber lands, whether coastal or not, as seen in European geographical and political maps published in the 17th to the 20th centuries.The name derives from the Berber people of North Africa, from Greek Bàrbaroi...
 
@ⵃⴰⵎⵎⴰⴷⵣⵉⴷⴰⵏⵉ This would be an act of defiance. A choice instead of an imposition. I understand why it should feel good.
 
9:53 PM
> The name derives from the Berber people of North Africa, from Greek Bàrbaroi (Ancient Greek: Βάρβαροι, literally meaning barbarians) and the Arabic Barbara (Classical Arabic: بَرْبَرَةٌ, meaning jabbering).
The Greeks thought everyone else babbled. :)
 
@tchrist Funny. In Arabic, every non-Arabic-speaker speaks a'jami; ie, ~babbles.
 
There you go.
What's your native language(s)?
 
I speak both Arabic and Tamazight
Tamazight is native.
in a sense, since I was born.
 
9:56 PM
Ah great.
So you don't consider yourself bilingual?
I vaguely remember that there were some Spanish speaking parts in Algeria too.
I may be mistaken.
 
"The Spanish Sahara is gone." :)
 
yes, you may be right. Especially, in Oran city
and the western cities in general.
 
Melilla is close to Algeria, but closer to Morroco.
 
Yeap
 
if you classify the origins of people in Algeria, you find Turks as well.
 
9:59 PM
It may be difficult for a developing country to have dispersed government with different official languages for different parts.
 
from the Ottoman Empire.
 
Interesting!
 
@Færd And what would be the difference?
 
My "The Spanish Sahara is gone" quote is from the Yakko's World song from Animaniacs:
 
@Cerberus Empirical vs theoretical
 
mainly
 
> The current Berber name of Melilla is Mřič or Mlilt, which means the "white one". Melilla was an ancient Berber village. It was a Phoenician and later Punic trade establishment under the name of Rusadir (Rusaddir for the Romans and Russadeiron (Ancient Greek: Ῥυσσάδειρον) for the Greeks). Later Rome absorbed it as part of the Roman province of Mauretania Tingitana.
The Riffian or Riffian Berber (native local name: Tmaziɣt or Tarifit; external name: Tarifit) is a Zenati Northern Berber language. It is spoken natively by some 6 to 7 million Riffians of Morocco and Algeria, primarily in the Rif provinces of Al Hoceima, Nador, Driouch, Berkane and as a minority language in Tangier, Oujda, Tetouan and Larache, and in Melilla, in Spain. In addition, Riffian expatriate communities also speak the language. == Classification == Riffian is a Zenati Berber language which consists of various sub-dialects specific to each clan and of which a majority are spoken in the...
That's the language you speak natively, right?
 
@tchrist Yeah, plurisecular sounds fine to me, though I can understand how people might misread it, because secular is so very rarely used to mean "of a century or age" in English.
 
@tchrist
yes that's it Tmaziɣt
 
Perhaps pluricentennial might be easier to understand for an Englishman?
@Færd OK, well, that is yet another distinction, isn't it?
 
10:07 PM
@Cerberus multicenturied doesn't sound as nice to me.
 
No, indeed.
Because the Latin sense of century forces itself upon one if combined with multi.
Not the English sense.
 
English does have multisecular for the same thing. The Romance tongues, including things I didn't mention like Catalan and Romanian, have all three multi/pluri/poly- varants.
The multi- version being more commonly used in Spanish and Portuguese, not the pluri- version like French.
 
It would not be unthinkable to have centuria to mean a hundred years in Latin, as it can mean a hundred of several different things; but I don't think it is (ever?) used for a hundred years in practice, and the military sense is overwhelming.
I have to go now, bye!
 
Bye!
@ⵃⴰⵎⵎⴰⴷⵣⵉⴷⴰⵏⵉ I'm glad I found it, because your Thamazighth word that you used was wholly unfamiliar to me.
 
@tchrist sorry, I write it as I pronounce it
 
10:11 PM
@ⵃⴰⵎⵎⴰⴷⵣⵉⴷⴰⵏⵉ Good for you. :)
Afroasiatic (Afro-Asiatic), also known as Afrasian and in older sources as Hamito-Semitic or Semito-Hamitic, is a large language family of about 300 languages that are spoken predominantly in West Asia, North Africa, the Horn of Africa and parts of the Sahel.Afroasiatic languages have over 495 million native speakers, the fourth largest number of any language family (after Indo-European, Sino-Tibetan and Niger–Congo). The phylum has six branches: Berber, Chadic, Cushitic, Egyptian, Omotic and Semitic. By far the most widely spoken Afroasiatic language or dialect continuum is Arabic. A de facto...
 
Good bye, I have some work to get it done this night,so, see you next time!
 
bye
 
@ⵃⴰⵎⵎⴰⴷⵣⵉⴷⴰⵏⵉ See you!
@Cerberus Yes, but not just any distinction. The scientific method is empirical by definition. That's why I find it weird that math should be called a science.
The scientific method is an empirical method of acquiring knowledge that has characterized the development of science since at least the 17th century. It involves careful observation, applying rigorous skepticism about what is observed, given that cognitive assumptions can distort how one interprets the observation. It involves formulating hypotheses, via induction, based on such observations; experimental and measurement-based testing of deductions drawn from the hypotheses; and refinement (or elimination) of the hypotheses based on the experimental findings. These are principles of the scientific...
I feel much more comfortable calling social sciences "science" than math and geometry.
 
10:36 PM
@Færd But is sociology very empirical?
 

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