English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room - 2020-02-13

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12:33 AM

@Rob dig this.

Someone just posted a cello duet in B flat minor, where the key signature said F sharp major. Resulting in accidentals on every other note, of course.

To add insult to injury, one of the cellos had its part written in the all'ottava bass key.

I commented "If you intend this to actually be played, you need to fix the key signature and the clef. A cello does not have a keyboard."

Here's what they commented back just now:

> I don't intend for it to actually be played, but I would like to know more about what you mean about the key signature and clef. These are things I'm not rather familiar with. Thanks in advance. (^ ^;

I shit you not.

They have a Pro subscription, too.

They are paying $80/year to write and publish music. Without knowing what a clef is.

(I loved the Japanese emoji, though. Not gonna lie.)

@RegDwigнt As opposed to non-Japanese emoji?

@Cerberus +14,840 new cases in China tonight, and +242 deaths there, too. And we've learned that they aren't counting as new cases people who have tested positive for the virus but aren't showing symptoms yet. Also, 2 Russians have escaped quarantine.

That's like 10x yesterday's increase.

@RegDwigнt wowz

Not meant to be played.

1:29 AM

@RegDwigнt Yeah, I know. German, French, Italian, and Romansch (whatever that is—maybe some kind of Plattlatin?).

@RegDwigнt "... what you mean about key signature and clef." You should reply: "I mean what anyone with a milliliter of musical experience means about key signature and clef."

But that would likely be wasted. That person is clearly too naive for it to register. Maybe they think the $80/yr entitles them to be thought of as a musician?

1:44 AM

Also, how is B♭ minor remotely related to F♯ major? Didn't the dude wonder WTF were all those accidentals on the page? How do you arrive at that key signature and not wonder what was going on? If you do nothing I presume MuseScore would render everything without a key signature, right?

2:02 AM

> Die plotselinge stijging komt volgens de lokale gezondheidsautoriteiten door een nieuwe diagnosemethode.

@RegDwigнt Right, it is fairly incomprehensible!

@tchrist At any rate, perhaps it is now time to suspend all international passenger flights, cruises, and trains.

And cancel all big events where infected people are reasonably expected to be present.

@Cerberus What this about zangvogels now? :) j/k

@tchrist Wha?

metathesis of volgens :)

Ah.

In China, I know that they certainly have severe restrictions on those things.

2:07 AM

Volgens = following, according to.

@tchrist And rightly so.

jep

At least in Hubei/Wuhan.

They aren't telling us enough. We don't have the demographic info we need, and much more.

Or perhaps they don't know either.

They know the age and profession of each person who has died. We do not.

I see.

Ditto for infected cases still alive. And for recovered cases.

2:11 AM

At least this sudden increase is only apparent, or so they tell us.

It does appear that a lot of health case workers have come down with it, possibly due to having been exposed before they were aware of the needed protective measures. The point is they aren't telling us almost anything, and we need that.

Meanwhile, I find myself forced to brute-parse a long JSON string.

Just don't.

I see no other way.

"Only apparent"

2:13 AM

@tchrist Then they really should tell us, or at least the WHO, more!

Everyone knows that there are many cases we don't know about. It makes it hard to plan.

Quite.

The JSON string is structured such that I cannot really deal with it.

Get a library to parse your jason string. Do not ever ever do it yourself.

@tchrist I have tried that, but I get this:

user image

I need those urls, and twice 99 others.

I'm trying to make a userscript that will put the correct, direct links to the images on search results in Google Images.

My condolences.

2:20 AM

The structure of the JSON is such that it would be a pain to find the right urls.

It will be easier to just Regex the whole lot.

Good luck.

At the cost of speed.

The Regex should not be so hard.

This particular string is about 142,000 characters long.

I just hope it won't take longer than a second or two.

Depends how you write it.

Won't take a smidgen of that if you write it tight(ly) enough. Will take forever if you do not.

I was thinking of splitting the string at "MyEqxGKEWsQgpM","https://.

heh

2:28 AM

So at (?="\w+","https?://)

maybe

I'm not really in a place I can pay attention to technical bits, or type them. Sorry that you're just getting my shadow.

Then work on each err split-off thingy separately.

No, don't worry.

I appreciate the most general input.

I suppose I might as well just get it all out in one Regex.

no

do it in pieces

easier to write

first get the logic right, then worry about speed

Hmm is it really easier to write?

> "(\w+)",\["https?:\/\/encrypted-[^"]+",\d+,\d+\]
,\["(https?:\/\/[^"]+)"

This seems to work in the Regex tester.

...but I don't think .match() can get match groups out of a global search, so you're probably right that I need to split it first.

9 hours later…

11:05 AM

@Robusto yes, the default key signature is C major. I'm guessing he specifically changed it to F♯ because that made his score look more professional and impressive with all those sharps!

With the free bonus that every other note then has to have a natural or flat accidental, adding to the impressiveness.

The telltale sign is really all the places where he has a note and a neighbor note separated by a semi-tone, and both are spelled as the same note with different accidentals.

So the melody goes like D-E♭-D, but is written as D♮-D♯-D♮.

That's a rookie mistake you see a ton on MuseScore. Every other score, you'll find examples of this.

So yeah. When those people say "oh, I don't mean the piece to be actually played", you know they are actually telling the truth.

Only question is, the fuck you publish a score for it for, then.

A score is instructions for a human musician.

A computer doesn't need a score, and cannot read a score. Your instructions for the computer is the MIDI file. So just publish that one. No point in clogging the Internet with megabytes upon megabytes of images that are not meant to be used by anyone for anything.

4 hours later…

3:29 PM

user image

5 hours later…

8:51 PM

-1

Q: what do you call a person who always need someone to talk

A single term to refer a person who always need people around to talk.

single-word-requests

Closure seems much more final now.

Which is a good and a bad thing

2 hours later…

10:55 PM

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It was so damn painful to watch. Especially as a subject of an ally of the story's genocidal villain.

11:12 PM

I can imagine that must be a painful documentary.

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