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12:45 AM
> Ah, ahora casi no la conozco
pero creo que puedo amarla
verde trébol y carmesí.
 
12:59 AM
Strange color for a shamrock.
Or maybe it's just a fresh one that happens to be carmine.
I still want to how who "she" is. :)
Crimson and clover? :)
 
@tchrist Por supuesto.
 
1:19 AM
@Mitch Would you consider drive slow informal?
 
@Cerberus it's very close to unremarkable to me but on the informal side.
'drive slowly' gives the feeling of a little bit too formal.
 
If the cop tells you to drive slower, I recommend that you not try to "correct" him.
 
@Mitch Right. So you probably wouldn't write "she drove slow" in a novel, would you?
 
hmm...
 
@tchrist Indeed, it is especially hard to avoid in the comparative.
 
1:29 AM
in my copious novel writing...
 
Go slow at first.
 
as the narrator
not dialog.
 
You are a very cornucopia.
 
@Mitch ue?
 
maybe I would start to write 'she drove slow' and then correct it to 'slowly'
 
1:30 AM
Just take it nice and easy, and you'll go farly.
 
in dialog I'm sure I would write 'she drove slow' for most speakers. even middle aged profs.
not older profs.
maybe a doctor (maybe not). doctors tend ...
doctors are sometimes cool, sometimes pretty uptight sticklers for old-fashioned speech
 
Don't say nuthin' 'bout "slowly" ...
 
@tchrist well maybe that's a sign of my usual register.
 
Could be an imperative.
A verb.
 
1:35 AM
> If a man wishes to drive fast, he must do so with respect to the rights of those who drive slow. If he desires to drive slow, he must do so with respect to those who desire to drive fast.
 
You cannot improve that by mannerlying it.
 
So parse "slow down" for us.
 
Something about Welsh hillbillies.
The slow downs are better for old cattle than the fast downs are.
 
@tchrist The Aberystwyth Hillbillies?
Ah, no. The Anglesey Hillbillies.
 
1:38 AM
The Anglesey elegy
 
> So geographers in Afric-maps o’er unhabitable downs place elephants for want of towns, quoth Jonathan Swiftly.
 
@Robusto Looks like a verb to me.
 
It is an imperative statement. I don't think you can have those without a verb, can you?
 
'slow down' is an imperative verb (phrasal); 'go slow' is a verb followed by a flat adverb
did you hear about the political scandal today?
 
> As often as she could get leave she would go out of the house and on to the wide downs where she could run free; and at times she would go with a shepherdess, tending the sheep, and eating under the sky.
 
1:44 AM
@Mitch Since Trump took office it's been a non-stop political scandal. What else is new?
 
OF COURSE YOU DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT A SCANDAL. THAT'S HOW GREAT THINGS ARE TODAY!
 
@Mitch This is prolepsis. It won't be true till January 20.
 
@Robusto I'll try it again then
setting my reminder
 
A wise policy.
 
> ‘Garn! You missed him,’ said the tracker. ‘First you shoot wild, then you run too slow, and then you send for the poor trackers. I’ve had enough of you.’ He loped off.
> Frodo seemed the most weary of the three, and slow though they went, he often lagged.
 
1:47 AM
I was wondering when you were going to give away that it's Tolkien.
 
@Robusto Thank you!
 
Bitte schön.
 
> They bore back Beren Camlost son of Barahir upon a bier of branches with Huan the wolfhound at his side; and night fell ere they returned to Menegroth. At the feet of Hírilorn the great beech Lúthien met them walking slow, and some bore torches beside the bier. There she set her arms about Beren, and kissed him bidding him await her beyond the Western Sea; and he looked upon her eyes ere the spirit left him. But the starlight was quenched and darkness had fallen even upon Lúthien Tinúviel.
If even the Nightingale can walk slow, who stands against it?
> Then suddenly, when her hope was almost spent, he woke again, and looked up, seeing leaves against the sky; and he heard beneath the leaves singing soft and slow beside him Lúthien Tinúviel. And it was spring again.
Would you rewrite a slow-moving stream to a a slowly moving stream? Seriously?
A fast-moving river and a slow-moving stream.
swift-running not swiftly running
 
@tchrist A slowly moving stream sounds like one that got out of its banks and started foraging for food.
 
A meadow's meander.
 
1:55 AM
One of my favorite OE words: mædwe.
 
Como un río errante por las vegas yendo.
> Éowyn it was, and Dernhelm also. For into Merry’s mind flashed the memory of the face that he saw at the riding from Dunharrow: the face of one that goes seeking death, having no hope. Pity filled his heart and great wonder, and suddenly the slow-kindled courage of his race awoke. He clenched his hand. She should not die, so fair, so desperate.
We used flat adverbs to modify participles, not mannerly ones applied sillillily.
"slow-kindled"
"slow-moving"
"quick-freezing", "quick-frozen"
 
Speaking of that, "flash-frozen" takes things into a different dimension.
 
"deep-freezing", "deep-centered"
"deep-laid"
 
Deep-heating.
 
"deep-rooted"
 
2:06 AM
Deepak Chopra.
 
It will soon freeze deeplier here.
 
But "faintly falling snow."
 
faint-fallen snow fells the faint-hearted
A faint-heard remark.
A faint-lit room.
 
Faint heart ne'er won fair maid.
 
@Robusto No, indeed.
@tchrist Noted.
 
2:12 AM
fair-traded fare from afar
 
In Dutch, we never use those suffixes -ly, and, when we do, we use them to make...adjectives.
Like friendly.
 
Kindly.
 
That is probably the older use of the suffix, then, older adverbs going bare.
 
Indubitably.
 
@Cerberus Correct.
 
2:15 AM
English and its crazy novelties.
 
"a little more than kin, and less than kind" came to mind.
A kingly prize.
A matronly aunt.
A princely sum.
 
@tchrist There are few quotes on heaven and earth that were not dreamt of by Shakespeare.
 
Bodily functions.
Brotherly love.
 
Why don't we ever have cousinly anythings?
 
The cowardly lion.
@Robusto We do.
 
2:18 AM
Do dwarves and dwarfs sound alike outside careful pronunciation?
 
@Cerberus No, the vowel length changes as well as the voicing.
 
@Cerberus That is one of my pet peeves. I hate seeing "dwarfs" in something. Even then I always pronounce it dwarves.
 
> 2009 N.Y. Rev. Bks. 11 June 66/2 Giannino's bid for Hungarian support had more to do with current tensions in the politics of the Italian peninsula than with any desire to call on cousinly affection.
 
Dwarfs is a verb. Dwarves is a noun.
 
> 1761 G. Montagu Let. 8 Oct. in H. Walpole Corr. (1941) IX. 393 My Lord shows us both the most cousinly distinctions and all the grandees treat us with a difference.
a1817 J. Austen Persuasion (1818) III. xii. 253 That cousinly little interview.
1908 W. Trafford-Taunton Threshold i. 123 He..went to the funeral of her little child with cousinly consolation, a cousinly hand-shake, and a cousinly cheek kiss.
 
2:20 AM
@Cerberus never? NOt even like German bekannt + lich?
 
@tchrist I think you made that up. But very convincingly. Good work.
 
@Cerberus different in usual pronunciation
 
@Mitch I think my middle clause admits it!
 
@tchrist Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute ... you can't just resurrect a word if it hasn't been cited for over a century. It's unseemly.
 
2:21 AM
Deathly pallor.
 
OK I'll try to distinguish between dwarfs and elves.
 
Exactly. Nobody says "elfs" and nobody should say "dwarfs" except in sentences like "My prodigious intellect dwarfs your tiny mind."
 
@Robusto Think of it as having been unretired from the mathom house of ancient words.
 
@Robusto You are Tolkienesque, then?
 
At times.
 
2:23 AM
@Robusto Brust puts "elfs" in the mouth of his protagonist Vlad's Hungarian-speaking grandfather to show that his English sketches a bit.
 
@tchrist sorkhiye to as man, zardiye man az to
 
Man sayt hwaet?
 
@tchrist Genau
@tchrist Your rosiness to me, my sickly pallor to you
@Cerberus wait...what middle clause? I missed that.
 
Only the prissy rose remains.
 
> It's weird how tire air at gas stations used to be free, but now is a $1.50. I guess that's the price of inflation.
3
 
2:27 AM
@tchrist You mean hwæt?
 
@CowperKettle Honestly, that has annoyed me.
I have a near flat and they want me to pay for air? What is this, Mars?
 
@tchrist On Mars the same amount would cost you billions. Because, you know, you'd have to get your care there.
 
Just a bike.
A Marcycle.
 
A Mars nest.
 
Amara valde.
@Robusto Ask for a funny Weißbier but say it wrong, and you get the Barrow-wight's funeral bier instead, long and cold.
Can't keep the wheats and wights apart.
 
2:36 AM
@Mitch I wrote, but, when we do...
 
2:51 AM
Geezis, a 64 GB thumb drive, USB 3.1, is about $10 on Amazon. I had no idea they were that cheap now. What happened?
 
@Robusto time just keeps moving on
 
@Mitch According to Steve Miller, it keeps on slippin' ... into the future.
 
3:12 AM
@Robusto I looked up a local store in Yekaterinburg, and it costs almost USD 5 there
 
3:36 AM
Sigh
 
@CowperKettle Sigh.
 
 
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5:13 AM
the dormitory administration is trying to make a hard tine to me by asking me to move to a room so that I have a roommate otherwise I need to pay more rent?
if I move to other room, isn't this room empty?
or two people will move in this room?
 
6:11 AM
we pay more to dispense with the annoyance of roommate?
 
6:45 AM
@Robusto In Indian English it means something like takes care of the home, home oriented. I don't know of obvious synonyms in standard English. Often seen in matrimonial ads. Or used to be.
Oh, and I've heard "fastly" more than once in India. Not elsewhere.
It's not really clear why that isn't the adverbial version of fast.
 
 
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8:39 AM
 
9:03 AM
Russian authorities launched a criminal investgation against Navalny under a penal code article that carries a 5-year prison term. The cause is Navalny's radio interview recorded 7 months ago in which he called for provision of monetary help to Russians amidst the covid crisis. Now he is charged with "extremism" for that.
 
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9:25 AM
how to use the oven?
 
9:38 AM
@CowperKettle Descartes was stupidist. so problematic
 
why is that the oven has run for so long but the food is still not hot?
what does it cost time so much?
 
9:56 AM
@CaptainBohemian Ask on Cooking Stack Exchange
Usually there's a knob for regulating the power of the oven
And "so long" is different for different persons.
 
we have real things to do, but the oven works so slowly.
 
10:17 AM
it's so absurd that World Food Program speaks like food is a piece of cake, which takes less one minute to take.
It takes really long.
the oven has run about one hour but the food is still not hot.
 
10:47 AM
@CaptainBohemian The oven must be working wrongly.
 
@Conrado then tell me how to work it correctly.
 
@CaptainBohemian: youtu.be/TQkC29mcQk8
If the food is not hot after an hour in your oven, I think it must be broken somehow.
Perhaps you will complain (again) to the dormitory administration.
With your infinite resource and sagacity, I hope you will find a solution.
 
@Conrado there are two pieces of shown information, one can be regulated 00:00 and another cannot.
tell me what the two piece of shown information means.
 
11:11 AM
@CaptainBohemian I'm sorry, I really don't know, but it sounds like the one you can regulate is a timer. Electronic oven controls are complicated. Look up the manual online by the oven model. Cheers!
 
@Conrado yesterday I run it successfully.
it has been too hours, why is the food still not hot?
@Conrado but where is the manual? but I would hope to run it soon.
 
11:32 AM
 
11:44 AM
> The European Medicines Agency said it would convene a meeting on Dec. 29 to decide if there is enough data about the safety and efficacy of the COVID-19 vaccine developed by Pfizer and BioNTech for it to be approved.

The agency also said Tuesday it could decide as early as Jan. 12 whether to approve an experimental COVID-19 vaccine developed by Moderna Inc.
 
 
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12:55 PM
 
1:22 PM
Vacancies in the Kurgan region of Russia.
Above: Teacher and psychologist (you will work with orphans) - 13950 rubles (184 US dollars) per month.
Below: Cleaner of Premises - 14000 rubles per month.
Putin's press secretary carries a wristwatch worth 37 000 000 rubles.
 
1:47 PM
Word of the day: onionskin (transparent paper)
 
2:07 PM
@CowperKettle In English one wears a wristwatch. You would carry a pocket watch, but nobody does these days.
 
Ah!
A political rally of restaurant workers in St. Petersburg in 1910, carrying the slogans "Down with Tips!" and "A Waiter is a Human Being!"
I like these kinds of flat hats with ribbons
 
2:48 PM
@CowperKettle That's Indian levels of pay.
And not very generous levels of Indian pay, either.
I wonder if the job includes any extra perks. Does Russia have free medical anything?
@CowperKettle That's nearly 500k USD. Are you sure you got that right?
 
3:03 PM
> President Vladimir Putin’s official spokesman has been called out by the Russian opposition, for wearing a watch claimed to be worth £397,000 - more than four times his declared annual income.
Mr. Peskov has been on government service since 1989, and cannot possibly have earned all the luxuries that the Fund for Fighting Corruption (chaired by Alexei Navalny) has uncovered.
 
@CowperKettle I see.
That's certainly a lot of money for a watch.
 
They are going mad from money received for oil and gas.
 
@CowperKettle They?
 
@FaheemMitha The Putin's clan
Putin's clan
 
@CowperKettle So this spokesperson is part of Putin's clan?
 
3:07 PM
Members of the "Ozero" building cooperative, Putin's former institute friends, his former sports friends etc.
@FaheemMitha Sure
 
@CowperKettle So, what's the current state of Russian medical care? Do you get anything for free?
So he's like Hope Hicks.
 
@FaheemMitha Yes, healthcare is free, and it is great.
You can even get dental healthcare quite cheaply in a state clinic, but the quality might be poor. Well, compared with my childhood days the quality is nice.
But for instance they will not do a CT scan of your teeth to double check if your pain is really an inflammation that endangers your tooth. I was lucky enough to go to a commercial clinic to double-check using my own money a couple of years ago, or I would have lost my tooth.
Because in the state-run clinic the doctor said "all is fine, not a big deal, just take some painkillers now and then, and let it heal naturally".
Because the state-run clinic is poorer.
 
@CowperKettle Interesting. Is a CT scan better than an x-ray for inflammation?
And what's the right treatment for an inflamed tooth?
 
3:27 PM
@FaheemMitha Yes, an x-ray showed that my tooth was great, but the CT scan showed an area of inflammation. It was cool to rotate it in 3D
I uploaded some photos to a web forum dedicated to health, and got an advice to seek medical attention, because it was inflamed and would not go away by itself. I rechecked with my friend, who is a doctor, and he asked a specialist, and said the same thing.
@FaheemMitha In my case it was drilling it to remove an old fillling, then disinfecting the roots, then making a new filling.
 
@CowperKettle I see. Thanks.
 
Basically the old filling was made improperly. I made it on the cheap, avoiding paying through the cashier and paying directly to a doctor I know.
 
@CowperKettle The old filling was made improperly, so went bad?
 
yes
It was not fully disinfected, and slow inflammation continued there.
And finallly it reached the source of food or whatever, and grew into a mid-level inflammation.
 
@CowperKettle I see. Source of food?
 
 
2 hours later…
5:30 PM
You wouldn't think Putin would be "haunted" by anything. I would think he's the one who does the haunting.
 
5:48 PM
Cat walking over your keyboard?
Maybe your cat is DMing Putin?
Anyway, I feel like a ruler isn't so much 'haunted' (or less hyperbolically, concerned) about people and their livelihoods as the headline implies. If the ruler is authoritarian or incompetent, then they really only care about how events/conditions affect themselves directly. (so maybe Putin'd be concerned if the coal miners had openly pledged some fealty).
If the ruler is actually competent or democratic... they don't have enough time in the day to be concerned about 1 out of thousands of issues which they're juggling.
 
getting some hot food is not easy - finally the oven heats the food.
the current exchange rate varies from time to time
 
6:50 PM
@Mitch No. I thought I was Zoom texting to my granddaughter (not that she'd see it), but it was the kind of cooing and clucking that is obligatory for new grandpas to do while waiting for the audio and video to come on.
 
7:45 PM
how to deal with this sleepiness?
the lemon bubbled drink tastes so nice
 
8:06 PM
today the weather forecast is -8 ~ -3 degrees Celsius.
I felt very cold outside
I also saw the trace of ice banks on grass
 
8:44 PM
@Robusto Oh...the one that only just came into existence.
 
8:58 PM
Correct.
 

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