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00:04
do we need to write out the preposition of a verb if we are not going to include its object?
 
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06:01
@Mitch Why did you not thank me?
bangs head on keyboard
 
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09:09
@CaptainBohemian We have a glossary for them:
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Q: List of common abbreviations and acronyms (NOAD, ESL, PIE...)

RegDwigнtAbbreviations are always a potential source of confusion. Some people might happen to know what OED stands for, and can figure out what NOAD must mean, but others may not be so lucky. Googling for PIE is rather useless even for native speakers, and completely perplexing to non-native ones. Thus,...

09:24
Generally speaking though, I do understand your frustration. That's a somewhat obscure and out of the way webpage for most visitors, so I usually try to spell out the abbreviation and assign it with parenthesis every time I use one, even in cases where I think the abbreviation should be obvious such as with the Oxford English Dictionary (O.E.D.).
It is also especially important in my case though since I am not sure how many other people use the A.D.E.L. abbreviation for An American Dictionary of the English Language, and I am almost certain that the first thing people think of when they read C.D.C. is the Center for Disease Control rather than the Century Dictionary and Cyclopedia unless otherwise specified.
 
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12:03
@Tonepoet When I first saw OED in the posts of the site of English Language & Usage, I didn't know what it represents; it wasn't obvious for me at all and I wondered why most people writing OED don't write out what OED represents for even once in their posts; I didn't find out what it represents until I experienced a lot of frustration. I guess OED may be obvious for people whose fields are close to linguistics or literature, but I am not one of them.
I didn't use acronyms until I saw people use them often because I thought people wouldn't understand my acronyms. Even I have been told what an acronym represents, I may forget it next time I see it.
I tend to forget words I don't see often, so forgetting acronyms is very rational.
 
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14:49
@Mitch O.o Azeri is not at all close to Persian. They won't pick up any of our words unless we borrowed it from them. Kurdish is sooo weird to me, but I hear it's easy to pick up if you spend some time in, say, Kurdistan. Dari is much easier to comprehend.
@Mitch Although I'm fairly certain some Wikimedia images used to be censored all right, the wall wasn't built that far.
@Mitch Oh, you can? Whoops.
I'm also fairly certain some of the clergy men would really love to censor any site whose content they can't police. Darn puritans.
Which is kinda sad. Trying to find common ground with common folk and making stronger bonds with people is what they should be doing. The patronizing attitude doesn't help.
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Q: Have heroRATS cleared more than 100,000 mines?

Barry HarrisonFrom the Washington Post (emphasis added): The Belgian organization APOPO has been training its “heroRATS” to find land mines for 20 years, and it says the animals have helped clear more than 100,000 mines from former war zones. From The Guardian: In the past 20 years, Apopo’s [heroRATS...

Heh, I was like, "1E5 mines were defused and only 22 meters were cleared?"
That is one heck of a 22 meters.
22m m^2. Nope. Doesn't work either
What's wrong with "millions" if you're gonna spell out the unit?
15:10
@CaptainBohemian The reason I consider it obvious is that in my experience, it's a pretty commonplace abbreviation even among nonspecialists to my recollection. It's an abbreviation you might see on television shows like Jeopardy for instance. I'd be willing to bet that it's the most common abbreviation on the list by far, (although naturally P.I.E. would rank higher in an ngram due to false positives).
Naturally however, there is a first time everybody has to learn what an abbreviation means though and so many to memorize.
@Tonepoet Now I want some apple Proto Indo European.
@Gigili haha...I was just thinking that immediately before bringing up this page.
If it is any consolation (and I realize it may make it even worse) I didn't thank @M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ either.
Or I think I didn't thank him.
I think.
15:25
Therefore
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Place one of these on your lap and maybe it'll start speaking in Proto Indo European to help you study, and while it's caught unaware you can prepare it for consumption:
@Tonepoet I don't watch TV often, and further, my native language is not English, so most of TV programs I have seen are not in English. In addition, I don't know what Proto-Indo-European abbreviated as P.I.E means.
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Augh! Tweened!
@Mitch Well, I think this is the closest to a thanks that you gave me
19 hours ago, by Mitch
Rather odder spun puns than otter rudder snap pans.
@CaptainBohemian When I first came here OED was new to me too but it was pretty guessable
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Yeah I get that. It's Turkish language which is pretty far. I think I heard (from you and @Færd?) that Azeri and Turkish are mutually intelligible.
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ You're welcome!
15:29
After figuring out D is for Dictionary and not Richard, O has got to be Oxford not Ohio
@Mitch I'm not thanking you for thanking me man
@Mitch What, no way
Azeri is pretty close to Azerbaijani, but the Turkish add too many Europeanisms and unnecessary verb endings to their Turkish
Also they borrow more from Arabic and we borrow more from Persian
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Europe is the worst
They call "mouse" 'fa-reh', and the Arabic is فارة
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ probably because you often consult OED. I don't. I mostly consult web dictionaries I feel agreeable.
With their coffee and croissants and sofas
@CaptainBohemian I'm not that rich
@Mitch And cheeses eugh
15:33
You're rich in soul
no ur rich in soil
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Wait... did the Europeans get cheese from you guys?
I dunno, I have to look at the fridge
Pizzas were definitely our idea though.
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Cheese became food only by the most desperate hungry people
Make bread in a shape that won't fit in your mouth.
15:35
Oysters
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ consulting web dictionaries can be free completely because there are always free public interneted computers; the easiness of accessing it depends on whether you hold a position in academia.
@Mitch stuck in a cave
@CaptainBohemian Free things aren't always the best quality
@CaptainBohemian OED is paid service is what I'm saying
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ rain outside the cave, bears and panthers further in the cave
15:36
I can't subscribe
@Mitch the free computers in my alma mater are of very good quality. It's just that I have graduated and am not positioned there so that I can't access them easily.
@Mitch I was thinking more like a large green glowing fungus monster but that'd work too
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ You have internet skills, surely there's some kind of back door.
Haven't looked for it but y . . . are you trying to
actually, to give away his secret, I think tchrist has a downloadable file of the OED.
How he got it, I don't know
15:38
He spoke to the maintainers in Unicode until they gave up and gave him a copy
Or invented a font so perfect it was hypnotic
free computers in my home city community libraries are of very bad quality; that's why I said position is the key.
Well I am the owner of this computer and it still sucks
I speak to people in emojis and all I get are 👍
Just the thumb?
position is the access to all welfare.
15:43
Maybe their fingers are cut off and they can only type with one?
Or they're holding a grenade
Dang that emoji can mean so many things
exactly
I found a strange function of Facebook---once you ignore a person's message, you can unignore him by passing message to him and this is the only way to unignore him.
15:59
even more, if you mute and ignore one's message, passing message to him would simultaneously unmute his message.
> The sight that makes me pinch myself
Is Urals in the Spring:
As if an overzealous elf
Commanded by a king
Or by the President himself
Applied his magic skills
And where the blizzard used to groan
The goldfinch spreads his trills
11.05.2019
I prefer to use the mobile version of Facebook because in that version nobody can pass message to me.
16:38
@CowperKettle Where the Hell is your snow?
@Cerberus It has thawed
Uor þe uoȝeles of praye þet byeþ þe dyeulen. – what would this be in Present-Day English?
I don't know how to say this. If my husband were an ELU enthusiast, he would probably mark a lot of simple stuff as unclear, too. Just as some things are too complex for some; some things are too simple for others. It works both ways... Just scroll; it's hard sometimes, I know.
16:58
@KannE it's much more complex than that
Ba. Dum. Tiss.
17:22
@Mitch Hahaha. No, you are. I'm unclear on purpose. The questions I'm referring to are just simple.
17:44
@userr2684291 That would seem like a nice question to ask on the main site!
 
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19:13
@Cerberus The only explanation I can think of is they've found the universal remote and changed sky's picture mode to vivid
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Hmm.
Do you prefer light on dark or the converse?
I'm not a zebra
Do you write computer code?
Do you read texts?
Oh crap pop quiz
Nobody told me!
I swear I'll study next time I SWEAR
@Cerberus depends on the time of the day
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ By what or whom will you swear?
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ When you're sleeping?
19:19
Usually I'd prefer white text on black but whether it's because it depresses me after a while or something else I always can't resist changing back to light theme
@Cerberus ANOTHER POP QUIZ
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Hmm or perhaps you just like change.
I might want to try dark on light again, but I'm sure I want light on dark at night.
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ MAYBE
@Cerberus I always get the feeling dark themes lack diversity
There's so many different color schemes they play around with with light theme but dark theme is almost always boring.
Hmm.
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ What kind of diversity would you be interested in?
Now imagine Facebook's next layout be text color #eeeeee on white background.
At the moment, I'm considering how many different colours the language syntax file I'm making should aim it.
19:24
That'd be a blast. Humanity's average IQ will increase twofold until they 'fix' it
I refuse to let Facebook into my mind, sorry.
@Cerberus Well, you know, text on white background can be dark blue or dark green or dark grey or a million other colors, but it's rarely ever that colorful on black
Of course, it shouldn't be all of those in a single document or a presentation
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Yes.
But all colour schemes that I know have various different colours.
The default Monokai I'm using has white, grey, yellow, orange, red, purple, turquoise, light green (all on a very dark grey background).
I'm considering adding dark green and medium blue, and possibly even pink.
Sounds like a unicorn in a neo-noir setting
Googles Looks pretty and concise
Pretty concise
Really hard to get tired of
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Q: Was Santiago (the assassinated president) named after Allende?

John CollinsWas the name of the assassinated President in Babylon 5 (Santiago) a reference to Chile's Salvador Allende?

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Those are the default theme.
19:39
That's impossible. It would negate the fourth law of thermodynamics: Defaults suck.
I'm not that dynamic.
Surely this doesn't look unfamiliar to you.
No it doesn't. Images are usually censored
There you have all the colours I have just mentioned.
Is this one censored?
Hmm, some Google Images images do have a suckily bright dark grey
Looming anticipation
I.stack.imgur is blocked as well though
Oh.
Well, you could Google Images "Monokai" to see this very common colour scheme.
What do you use?

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