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12:17 AM

||: This is the song that never ends
Yes it goes on and on, my friends
Some people started singing it not knowing what it was
And they'll continue singing it forever just because :||

@Mitch

12:46 AM

(10hours) Lamb chop song that never ends

@MetaEd

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3:02 AM

It's a Beautiful Day - It's a Beautiful Day 1969 (full album)

I didn't write it. But it's about time.

3 hours later…

6:15 AM

So is this, actually:

Simon & Garfunkel - A Hazy Shade Of Winter

So is this one, I guess:

Simon & Garfunkel - Leaves That Are Green

And an alternate view:

Time Is On My Side

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8:45 AM

Question: a user posted a very good (in my opinion) answer to a question but as a comment instead of an answer. Would it be appropriate to comment after, suggesting the user post their comment as an answer? Trying to stay within stackexchange protocol here...

9:00 AM

nvm, going to bed

3 hours later…

11:46 AM

@Robusto A for effort but no cigar.

Hans Zimmer - Time (Inception)

1 hour later…

1:01 PM

@hpp3 Sure! People do it all the time.

So there is nothing inherently wrong with suggesting that he might turn his comment into an answer.

Many people tell others this, though, so there is a chance that he might be mildly irritated.

1:39 PM

Word of the day: nidicolous

Usage example: "Don't be nidicolous! Being altricial is so 1980s!"

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3:55 PM

The Bangles - Hazy Shade Of Winter (Audio)

I like this one better. Musically. The S&G (original) version sounds like it was played on period instruments. I mean, it was, but it sounds like it.

Annoyingly the lyrics sound like the mean something, but really all they do is say 'there are seasons, this is fall, you should start raking before the snow covers them'

2 hours later…

5:56 PM

@hpp3 Seems like a great idea to me.

6:30 PM

@Mitch Great song!

I saw an offensive comment under that video, and wrote a reply

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3 hours later…

9:18 PM

@Mitch I get that you're trying to make a joke, but I don't agree that the instrumentation on the S&G version sounds bad. It's just different from the Bangles' version, which is produced in a more '80s idiom, with synth pad, decorative arpeggios, a more straight-ahead electric guitar, and other frills. More production isn't necessarily better production. I like both versions, but I like them for different reasons.

For example, I like the 12-string melodic counterpoint more than the overdriven electric guitar version. And I do like some of the harmonic vocal mixes of the Bangles' version, but there's something about Paul Simon's unadulterated (though multi-tracked) vocal melody that cuts through in an interesting way.

Different versions for different immersions.

Oh lovely. I come in and the topic is instrumentation.

Well, I just instrumentated some video from that weird AF room @Tonepoet pointed me to.

Transcribed an electric guitar solo for the violin.

It's actually about production, of which instrumentation is certainly a component.

soundslice.com/slices/1h3cc

フレデリック「オドループ」Music Video | Frederic "oddloop"

Anyway.

Yesterday I fell asleep to a 1-hour long video on string quartet instrumentation.

Today I woke up and had to watch it again from the beginning.

Symphony No. 1 “The Patriot”, Op. 8 - Jordan M. Holloway

Wait, that wasn't it.

That's not what I copypasted just now.

Wake up.

MOOOC T1 Lesson 8: String Quartet

There you go.

Warum nicht gleich so.

9:27 PM

I don't understand. You did the music for that Japanese video?

No I did the soundslice transcription for two violins.

2 mins ago, by Robusto

Wake up.

That Japanese video I hadn't known of until like three days ago.

Now those guys are on my Spotify.

But I'm like six years too late to write that song.

Well, I guess I clicked it before you changed it, because I just got the embedded YouTube thing without the other part. Your other part.

I changed nothing. I posted two links underneath one another.

2 mins ago, by RegDwigнt

2 mins ago, by Robusto

Wake up.

Wevs. I'm not interested in J-Pop.

Well the loss is not theirs.

Like, that video got 15 million likes without either of us's help.

9:32 PM

That's supposed to impress me?

Dunno. Maybe belittled, rather. All those billions of people out there upvoting things, and we don't even know that the things are a thing.

Life is too short to chase those dragons.

Like, YouTube keeps shoving into my face a live stream of the two most popular channels' subscription counts.

I don't get the point. Of either the stream or it being shoved into my face.

But it's been doing that for two months now.

It's pewdiepie against someone I have genuinely never even heard of.

Pewdlepie?

But apparently each of them is at 70 mil subscribers now and that in itself can entertain countless people just watching a live stream of two numbers going up.

@Robusto I don't know how you spell him.-

Never been interested.

Not even sure I'd have heard of him if not for all the mainstream media pushing him as the first YouTube millionaire.

On YouTube proper, he might as well not exist for me. Never popped up in my suggestions.

9:39 PM

I don't even know who that is, and I don't care too much about finding out.

You really do not.

He just does video game streams and shit from what I figure. Then branched out into, dunno, everything. I only overhear the meta meta meta talk. How he's now getting into trouble for racial slurs or whatever. Kindergarden, really.

But that other channel he's up against, I've never so much as heard the name of, not even in the metaest of talks.

But yeah. Pewdiepie was like the first one to earn 10 million dollars off YouTube, and then the media discovered him, and that was like six years ago or something, so he must have like 100 mil by now.

I never thought I'd say this, but at least in this regard ignorance is strength.

What Makes This Song Great? Ep.50 TOM PETTY (#2)

This is what I'm listening to right now.

Jesus Rick is at 50 already.

I remember the very first episode. And the sixth.

And that was like a couple months ago.

He's been churning them out on a daily basis since, I can't keep up.

I pick and choose.

Yeah.

I maybe listened to like five.

9:50 PM

What makes Limp Bizkit great? Not interested.

> I can't believe I've done 50 of these already.

Lol Mr Beato you don't say.

A lot of time he's interesting just because he gets the master recordings from somewhere and can iso tracks while making his points.

Wait, this was Petty's very first song on his debut album?

No.

Well that's what Rick said just now.

9:52 PM

This was 1989, which would have made him 38 or 39.

@RegDwigнt What time code?

0:29#

Maybe he means as a solo act without The Heartbreakers.

Yeah I'm very confused right now.

allmusic.com/artist/tom-petty-mn0000612716/discography

He's released records since 1976.

So hardly a debut.

Yeah I'm on Wiki right now.

I though he was like dead by 1989.

9:55 PM

No, he died in 2016, iirc.

2017 wiki sez.

OK, I was closer than you were.

Is not my point. My point is I might as well have been closer for all the difference it would make.

That is a very abstruse point to be making in this conversation.

It's a very abstruse point to be making in any conversation.

Anyway. Is Clapton still alive?

The last record I have of him is from 1976.

Oh sorry, 1974.

461 Ocean Boulevard

461 Ocean Boulevard ist das zweite Studioalbum des britischen Gitarristen Eric Clapton. Es erschien 1974 und belegte Platz eins der amerikanischen Albumcharts. == Hintergrund == Nach der Auflösung von Derek and the Dominos 1971 stürzte Eric Clapton in eine zwei Jahre anhaltende Isolation, bedingt durch seinen massiven Konsum von Heroin. Während dieser Zeit trat Clapton bis 1974 nicht öffentlich auf, abgesehen vom Konzert für Bangladesch (1971) und dem Rainbow Concert (1973), und nahm auch kein Material mehr auf. Erst nachdem ihm Pete Townshend geholfen hatte, nach einer Entziehungskur wie...

Why is that in German.

9:58 PM

Reports of his death were an exaggeration.

@RegDwigнt So he died for you in 1974.

Pete Townshend got Clapton off heroin?

The more you know.

For me, much sooner.

When I was a teenager I thought he was a god. Then I discovered he was rather ordinary. Then he did "Tears in Heaven" and he was demoted even further.

Well I wasn't even born in 1974, so given that I think it's quite impressive really.

@Robusto there's one good song on Ocean Boulevard. Though it's kinda boring really.

The first eight bars are okay.

I remember someone putting on Disraeli Gears at a party in, like, 1978 and I immediately found another album to replace it with. I simply couldn't listen to that stuff.

What's that other song of Clapton's that I liked. Was on his MTV Unplugged thingie.

Oh yeah Running on Faith.

Running on faith eric clapton unplugged

Don't judge. I was 16 when I listened to this.

10:03 PM

The hit on that record was the Bob Marley tune, and Marley did it way better, IMO.

Oh right that one's on there.

@RegDwigнt I thought you were still 16.

Yeah.

Tweened, but still works.

Jul 20 at 22:23, by RegDwigнt

@tchrist not really, no. I quit the rat race at age 25. Stopped celebrating birthdays. Don't know what date it is or what day of the week. Ever. Sometimes I even forget the year. Most of the time, actually.

You were quite close once again.

Have you been taking up maths in your free time or what.

Do I get another A for effort?

I wonder what my GPA is by now...

@Robusto A for effort with sugar on top. And now clean the fucking car.

10:05 PM

Please would be nice.

If I am curt, that's because time is of the essence.

Just because you are a character doesn't mean you have character.

Catch up.

The day I bring some OD-ing teeny-bopper to your house, that's the day I give her the shot.

Ugh.

This is too hard.

10:08 PM

Still Tarantino's best film.

There are too many very obvious ones.

And I haven't watched it in years, I now realize.

So I struggle to think of the more obscure ones.

He'd have to be one charming motherfuckin' pig. He'd have to be ten times as charming as that Arnold on Green Acres.

But you know you've found somebody special when you can just shut the fuck up for a minute and comfortably enjoy the silence.

Would you give a guy a foot massage?

That's a good one. Should've used it yesterday when I was commenting on some schlock's comment on YouTube.

There was that lady playing the piano, that Olga whatever I told you about yesterday. Played quite spectacularly well. And then naturally everyone on YouTube commented on her boobs.

And then naturally other people came and started yelling "sexist".

10:12 PM

Why I seldom read YouTube comments.

Or comment myself.

And then naturally those people shut them down by saying that it's okay to also comment on beauty.

I did comment on Tantacrul's Sibelius one, though. Which was a thing of beauty, and so deserved some approbation from me.

@RegDwigнt Seriously, like I give a fuck what the Great Unwashed have to say about anything.

And then I jumped in and told them yeah surexcept you'd never have commented on her beauty if she were a bloke.

Should have used that quote.

@Robusto I think it's worse than that. I heard the Bangles version first, then the S&G. Similar to a lot of Beatles covers of Chuck Berry. I just like the Beatles ones more because I heard them first and have that connection with them.

@Robusto well you can't, because there's just too many things they have to say.

@Robusto don't lie. You only tried commenting on that one, but then Sibelius actually crashed.

10:14 PM

@Mitch I heard the S&G version first, then the Bangles. But it didn't prevent me from liking the latter version.

@Tonepoet OMG not that video again.

@RegDwigнt Nah, you could look it up. I got hearted by Mr T himself.

Why are you cruel people so cruel.

@RegDwigнt Its been linked before huh?

@Robusto I was just making a poor attempt at a joke. In that, I succeeded.

10:15 PM

@Tonepoet This video has been blocked from chat by @RegDwight.

@Tonepoet yes, by Robusto right here.

@Robusto Willfully deleted then. XP

Trololol I actually got someone to delete something.

@Tonepoet Good you got on the right side of this thing.

Life can be so easy.

10:16 PM

I linked it just because it was the first example of what I was looking for.

Which was taking the easy road, of course. Unaware of landmines.

It's okay to watch Lisitsa's videos. I've watched every single one. Including the one where she just reads a score for four hours with her headphones on.

It's just not okay to advertise her.

I later learned she's some kind of proto-fascist.

You should start with Engerer, then work your way down.

@Robusto I only learn that now because the last time you withheld it from me.

Why are fascist chicks so often blonde? I mean, that's all they have on Fox News ...

You only suggested that I knew something, but never told me what the something was.

10:18 PM

When you recoiled I looked her up on Wikipedia or something.

@Robusto urgh...also for me 'i shot the sherrif', I heard the cover first so I like it more.

@Robusto Yeah. But I never did, is what I'm saying.

@Mitch Grow up. You can't cling to your musical teddy bears forever.

@RegDwigнt I think you did.

Roosevelt made music?

@Robusto nope. And still amn't.

6 mins ago, by Robusto

@RegDwigнt Seriously, like I give a fuck what the Great Unwashed have to say about anything.

I don't read Wikipedia. I write Wikipedia.

@Robusto exactly, I like the 'Mary had a little lamb' from Gary Larson better because I heard it before the Teletubbies cover.

10:20 PM

Oct 31 at 20:59, by RegDwigнt

@Robusto argh, no Lisitsa in this chat.

QED

That was a recoil if I ever saw one.

Well yes.

You're confusing me.

You were already confused.

That's how I found you.

So don't blame that shit on me.

Quit looking for confusing people then.

They seem to find me.

I'm not blaming anything on you. I'm just saying that I don't need to read up on Eric Clapton on Wikipedia to say "no Eric Clapton in this chat".

10:22 PM

I think they just fell upon you as a last resort

Maybe I give off confusion pheromones, idk.

@RegDwigнt for all the talk of 'no Eric Clapton', there sure is a lot of talk about Eric Clapton

Oh now I see Rob's confusion.

4 mins ago, by Robusto

When you recoiled I looked her up on Wikipedia or something.

4 mins ago, by RegDwigнt

@Robusto Yeah. But I never did, is what I'm saying.

You parse that as "I never did recoil", but what I meant was "I never looked her up".

How about you make your stupid language simpler.

@Mitch who is that?

Anyway.

Chopin - Complete Nocturnes (Brigitte Engerer)

This is a video you may post in this chat.

There are no other videos.

And you can look her up on Wikipedia but I don't care if she was a proto-Nazi or not.

That means she probably was.

Well you tell me, I never checked.

Though I doubt she was, because look ma, no blonde.

10:27 PM

Chopin? Sounds like Nazi music to me.

Hitler liked Chopin, ergo it was Nazi music.

Yeah it's like just five syllables away from Chauvinist.

Who would name their child that.

And the kid was Polish but they named him in French. WTF?

Inorite, and that isn't even French, like. Not a single guy in all of France is called that.

Talk about trying too hard.

Maybe they were smuggling guys in from Poland.

And you know who else was in France? Hitler.

10:29 PM

Well, you're not too far from France. Maybe you could pop over and check on your lunch break sometime.

"Hey, any Poland guys in here?" [Echo]

Engerer does have a nice lyrical command of the melody, which often gets lost when people play that Poland guy.

Yeah and you know what's right on the border with France, the first thing I see even coming close to it?

A Nazi concentration camp.

Srsly?

Neue Bremm (German: Gedenkstätte Gestapo-Lager Neue Bremm) was a Nazi torture camp in Saarbrücken, set up in 1943 by the Gestapo intentionally with no oversight from other institutions. It was designed to break prisoners who were not destined for immediate death. Some prisoners were held only for a few weeks, others, much longer; both men, and women. During that time they were put to work in slave-labour commandos and broken. Those who survived purposeful starvation were sent on to Nazi concentration camps such as Buchenwald. Approximately 20,000 men and women passed through Neue Bremm, including...

Yikes.

One of the most horrific ones, too.

Like literally only sadists got dispatched there from other camps for being deemed too sadist by the Nazis there.

There's almost nothing at all left of it there safe for a giant concrete water pit. But it alone gives you the fucking shivers.

10:34 PM

Just when I think I've seen the bottom of the barrel, you lift up the barrel and there's more.

It's turtles all the way down.

Well yeah.

I'm too fucking old to be a romantic and a humanist, I suppose, but somehow I cling to those things.

Like emotionally I'm 23 forever.

Which is one of the reasons I say I don't give a shit about what Wiki says on Lisitsa.

She probably just got called Nazi on Twitter a couple times because it's now on vogue to call all Ukrainians that.

And then Wiki reports on that or whatever.

Meanwhile I have this concrete pit almost in my backyard where people got lined up and tortured and shot.

Perspective.

The women's part of the camp got later turned into a hotel. Still is.

At least it's not the original buildings, they built new ones. Hooray.

A ho-fucking-tel?

Yes.

10:41 PM

Some kind of sadist river cruise stopping place?

Along the main street passing the camp remains there's a concrete wall that calls attention to that fact. With wordplays on Hotel and hostage in three languages.

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Link Google Maps reference point?

@RegDwigнt Including hostile?

Yup.

Hostile, hostage, hotel, that "gostin" I believe is Polish for either host or guest.

I'm looking for the street view.

google.de/maps/place/Gedenkst%C3%A4tte+Gestapo-Lager+Neue+Bremm/…

Mercure hotel now, eh. Used to be Etap I think.

Heh, no street view available there.

Oh yeah and a McDonald's a bit down the street.

But that's not part of the former camp territory anymore.

@Robusto I don't know how to switch from Maps to Street View. I'm finding it very cumbersome.

Used to be simpler.

10:49 PM

Yeah. Progress.

Wait, have they just taken off Germany completely?

user image

Kinda looks that way.

user image

What the actual fuck.

Maybe Google didn't pay off the right people.

Well when it first came out people were very concerned about privacy. Faces, license plates, everything.

Like, people are concerned about that everywhere, but this is Germany on top of that.

So there were actual lawsuits and stuff, and they added new options, and flipped the default on what's blurred automatically, and new ways to report if you want to have something blurred in addition.

But that was like a decade ago or whatever. I thought the dust has settled.

Well apparently it has. In a way.

Also all those lawsuits and complaints were mostly like Hamburg and Frankfurt and Munich, and look, those still are on the map.

A Mercure hotel in the middle of nowhere isn't.

@Robusto anyway, I think the kicker with that wall is that it's not wordplays, as I nonchalantly called them, which would be rather inappropriate frankly, but that those words actually are all cognates.

10:58 PM

I suppose. But it's hard not to be inappropriate in the face of that kind of horror.

> hostile (adj.)
late 15c., from Middle French hostile "of or belonging to an enemy" (15c.) or directly from Latin hostilis "of an enemy, belonging to or characteristic of the enemy; inimical," from hostis, in earlier use "a stranger, foreigner," in classical use "an enemy," from PIE root *ghos-ti- "stranger, guest, host."

And guest is from the same root I believe.

Not only host.

Which is why the Slavic word for guest is gost.

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