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12:53 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, no whitespace in answer (181): Can an infinitive be the object of a preposition? by user319678 on english.SE
 
She was great...and she loved me more than anybody else...I think it only takes the latter though.
@WillHunting Okay, 5 stars...or 10? As many as you like. How many points do I get for using a hand-me-down (outdated since 2014) instead of financing a new one? I'm saving a small fortune every day by not discovering anything. It's practically paying for itself.
 
1:17 AM
@TommyTran The qualifications for what constitutes dangerously wrong vary from person to person, and discipline to discipline. When an answer is wrong it not only risks the propagation of misinformation, but the odds that someone will make an miscommunication that risks misunderstanding. Additionally, so many unstudied people think that they're absolute masters of English, since they have used it for so long and hence don't do the requisite fact checking to make sure their opinions are factual.
 
1:43 AM
@MetaEd Ah, a parariddle...I get it. I was actually thrown out of drum practice for refusing to give up my 1st seat, without argument, to a lesser individual, my boyfriend at the time...I never went back. Fast forward to FB, multiple conspiracy theories and MAGA caps later...he probably was the better drummer. Fortunately, unstable people often close their accounts and you can assume the new requests are from cloners...and never look back.
 
2:23 AM
@KannE I closed my FB account and deleted it. Does that make me unstable? I think not.
@MetaEd What, now you're a UN peacekeeping force? There's work for you in the US lately.
@RegDwigнt If you put in 10CC you can be a crappy '70s band.
@Robusto Pearl Jam, of course. (After six years, we might as well let the cat out of the bag, right?)
OK, five years. Stop being such a nitpicker. Math is hard!
 
2:59 AM
@Robusto No, that would be a logical fallacy. I can't remember what it's called; I'll have to look it up. And, I was referring to constantly closing accounts and opening new ones for reasons other than being cloned, hacked, etc. I should've been more specific.
 
3:38 AM
I can't find it right now, but it's like saying...Each person in the class ordered a red shirt...and then assuming someone who ordered a red shirt is in that class. I can't remember what they call that one...but I think it has a name. Of course, generalizing is never a good idea either...but we're divided in half here, so it makes that task easier.
 
 
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6:05 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer (161): Comma usage: something happened, not because of this, but this by Edward L. Stephens on english.SE
 
 
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7:19 AM
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Q: Word for "flexible in size"

Thomas MuellerSome things can only have certain sizes ("inflexible size"), for example Lego Duplo are a multiple of about 16 mm (I think). Other things are "flexible in size", as they don't have a restriction, or much less restrictions. Maybe flexible isn't the right / best word either? My use case is a bit ...

 
 
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11:14 AM
I have a question. Agatha Christie sometimes makes self-deprecating jokes of his own work by putting a fictional detective story writer in his detective stories, and describing him as disagreeable. A very mild example is in A murder is anounced, chapter 8.2: “[Marple on a nephew who apparently earns a lot:] ‘Yes, the dear boy has been so successful with his clever books – he prides himself upon never writing about anything pleasant.The dear boy insisted on paying all my expenses. […]’”
My question is, what word or phrase could you use to describe such a joke, from the perspective of us readers, not in universe in the book.
 
11:58 AM
@b_jonas I have three remarks.
1. Agatha is a woman.
2. From your quotation, why do you feel that he is described as disagreeable?
3. I don't see any joke?
 
@Cerberus No, not in that particular case. In that quote it's only a derogatory comment about the writings of that fictional writer. But iirc another fictional writer in her books, Ariadne Oliver, was described as disagreeable. It's been a while since I read any book with her, so I'm not sure.
1. is correct, sorry, and 3. is subjective, I do find it funny.
 
12:56 PM
@Cerberus 'was'
@b_jonas I'm not sure which person is disagreeable, making a joke, or what.
 
@Mitch Another fictional writer in Agatha Christie's fiction, Ariadne Oliver, at least it seemed to me like that from the descriptions.
 
But what that quote is saying, he's saying very mixed things about the nephew
1) successful and clever (good)
2) never writes pleasant things (bad)
3) pays for everything (good, but could be jealousy)
You quote "[Marple on a nephew]"
So it must be Marple, the detective Miss Marple, who is saying things about the nephew, right?
But the pattern of saying something superficially positive about somebody but letting one infer negative things is called 'a backhanded compliment'.
 
@KannE Sounds like failing the distribute the middle term in a syllogism, but without a clearer description I can't say what you mean.
 
@Mitch Yes, the amateur detective Jane Marple is the one saying those sentences in the book, and she's talking about a nephew of hers who is a writer.
Sorry, that was unclear in my quotation.
@Mitch Yes, it sounds to me like Miss Marple loves her nephew, but also thinks that his earnings are not very deserved, so for someone who isn't a relative or friend of that nephew, that statement would sound bad, since the writer isn't paying for their expenses, unlike for Miss Marple's trip.
 
For example: 'You really look so much better in person"
@b_jonas Oh. It seems like there is a lot of context there that makes it seem funny to you. The three facts in the quote by themselves are just unrelated facts.
 
1:06 PM
@Robusto It's quite possible that I misunderstand what Agatha Christie is actually trying to imply, here and in most other parts of her books. They're a difficult read for me.
@Mitch the third fact, paying for everything, relates to how he's successful, because it seems implied that he's earning a lot of money from the books he writes, and he pays Miss Marple's expenses from that money
@Mitch The second fact is about those books that are succesful despite that they're always about unpleasant things.
 
@b_jonas I bet the language is not too difficult for you, so at least you get to worry about the social situation. That's hard for everybody.
The past is a foreign country.
Most likely France
@b_jonas that doesn't seem backhanded, it just seems honest statement of what one would think is a contradiction.
 
@Mitch Both of them. This one is in Britain actually, but in the long past, shortly after World War II. The culture and this language seems very foreign often.
People are using institutions and objects that we rarely or never meet these days. Many books play in rich countryfolk with big mansions and several servants doing housework and gardening (which is why "the gardener did it" could even become a trope, though Asimov's book when the gardener kills the emperor probably helped).
 
The biggest part of reading 19th c great novels is discovering how strange their habits are. Why is she acting like that? Why aren't they so upset/not upset enough at the young couple eloping?
 
Even in the stories that take place in a city, you see similarly foreign things.
@Mitch These are all clearly 20th century though.
 
Cities are a foreign country. Big cities in different countries are more similar than to their own countryside
 
1:13 PM
We don't get exact dates, but it's definitely after 1910, though I could have been wrong about it being after World War II, it might be before that.
@Mitch Not to me. I'm a city person. I love cities, I live in a big city, I love living in a big city. The past, thirty or more years ago, is the "foreign country".
I've seen other Euroepan big cities too, and like them, though I haven't seen enoguh, and don't like each of them equally.
But even in those 20th and 19th century fictional depictions, I prefer cities over country.
This story works better in a small town though.
 
@b_jonas Agatha Christie wrote scads of novels from the 20's up to the 60's, but their subject matter is almost always pre WWII
 
@Mitch Yeah. I was probably incorrect here.
It's probably before world war II
 
1:46 PM
@Robusto if I leave it out, I can be a crappy '70s band regardless.
 
1:56 PM
@b_jonas My comment was meant for someone else.
@RegDwigнt A slacker like you? Pfft.
Perhaps we should call that "aspirational" slackerhood?
Yes, @RegDwigнt is an "aspirational" slacker. He wants to be a slacker, but he's unwilling to do the hard work needed to achieve that.
 
2:36 PM
Worth watching if only for the point where words can't describe what's going on between Collier and Hancock in the song they play together.
Meaning they run out of English and the conversation switches to pure Music.
 
3:00 PM
@Robusto Yeah, it's not that one. It doesn't matter. The point is I didn't say that.
 
3:59 PM
@Robusto like the aliens from Arrival where the Amy Adams linguist tries to figure out their 'circular' language and once she does time no is there
 
@Mitch Dunno what "time no is there" means.
So here's a question: A person with red hair is called a "redhead" while a person with brown hair is not called a "brownhead" (nor is a person with black hair called a "blackhead," which is another thing entirely). "Blondhead"? Nope. Just blonde or blond. But you can't use the noun "black" in the context of a synecdoche, nor "brown" nor "red" ... a hairy problem, to be sure.
 
4:36 PM
@b_jonas Cities are the best! Well, beautiful cities are—not just any city.
 
@Cerberus The container docks in Newark, Rotterdam, Marseille. Each with their own ... scent.
At Newark, the smell is a mix of baby shampoo and diesel fuel, with hints of burned chocolate and old potatoes.
@Robusto I don't want to spoil the movie if you haven't seen it.
 
@KannE Parariddle. X)
 
5:06 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer (161): What is the difference between desire and motivation? by William Ethane on english.SE
 
5:38 PM
@Robusto you misspelled "asspirational".
Also, as a slacker I take offense to the notion that I might "want to be" something. These are not words in my vocabulary.
@Robusto "time no is there" is a litotes of "time is there". DUH.
 
"Use litotes in a sentence." "I litotes good."
 
@Robusto you can use "black" in the context of a synechdoche. I would show you, but I'm slacking. I shall only point out that the script for Synecdoche, NY alone uses it on six separate occasions.
 
Oh dear, I always thought Agatha Christie was a girl and not a boy.
Oh, she is a girl!
@b_jonas I think Agatha is a she and not a he.
 
6:35 PM
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Q: A word for someone who falsely believes that a danger is no threat

JimmeryI am looking for a succinct single word that sums up the following definition: A person who falsely believes that an impending danger is of no real threat To add some context - I have frequently encountered climate change deniers online, but I have recently been encountering a whole new att...

 
7:00 PM
@MetaEd I think I invented a word...probably not.
 
@KannE You can still say that even if you're not the first person to have invented it.
 
@MetaEd I invented 'it'
please send all royalties to direct deposit
@WillHunting Come back! We almost had a trifecta of blue shades
 
@Mitch Nice avatar.
All this fuss, about, the Oxford semicolon, and we still haven't mastered, the Shatner comma.
 
7:15 PM
@Robusto A towhead is a not a synecdoche...is it? Thanks for the word; I like how it's pronounced.
 
I use only full stops and commas mostly.
 
@MetaEd I thought I'd up the brotherhood of man ante
 
Today I installed Linux Mint Tara on two old laptops and reset my new Windows 10 laptop to get all the settings right.
Windows settings are strange. Sometimes you check a box and after a while it unchecks itself, or you uncheck it and it checks itself. Windows is nuts.
 
@Mitch Let me know when the Vulcan ship lands. I have my bag packed.
 
@MetaEd I don't know about the Vulcans. You know how they are.
They think we smell funny
 
7:24 PM
Youtube is also nuts. It has switched to the new interface, but sometimes it goes back to the old one by itself.
 
@WillHunting I'm getting tired of YT videos longer than 5 minutes. If you can't get your point across faster than that then maybe I think I'm going to look at this other video that has scantily clad people jumping off a cliff
 
@Mitch The trifecta is known as Green, Gauss and Stokes.
 
I get to play Chekhov!
 
@Mitch I didn't think you were so impatient...
 
@WillHunting I mean Gauss is a bit too much of a big deal
 
7:27 PM
I want to run stellar cartography. They get all the good toys.
 
@WillHunting I don't know. Maybe it is the jumping off a cliff thing
 
Nearly gave myself away there.
 
@MetaEd cold nights at the observatory?
 
@MetaEd I don't know if there is some software that lets you see all the stars in the sky on your computer from different angles.
 
@MetaEd What? Is this some sort of Napoleonic wedding?
@WillHunting Oh hell yeah there is!
I used to have it a long time ago...
xephem?
 
7:28 PM
I didn't know there is an i9 processor now, not just i3, i5 and i7.
 
Gesundheit.
 
I'm sure there are much newer ones that run in a browser
@MetaEd haha, no, just a cough
@WillHunting I'm waiting for when they jump to using 'j'.
Jitanium
 
@Mitch Yes, because I am j.
 
Xephem? I didn't even know hem.
 
you don't have linux anymore, do you?
 
7:31 PM
I can get Linux if necessary to run this.
Wonder if it compiles under Cygwin.
 
@MetaEd Is the Oxford semicolon the same thing as a super-comma? I searched it online. This site was first...a lot of blah, blah, blah; literally, but I think it is.
 
@Mitch I'm checking out the reference manual and just came across section "4.8.1 Uranus mouse". Somebody has a sense of humor.
 
@MetaEd I don't get it
 
@MetaEd That's always the $64,000 question for Wintel users.
 
I've never liked eating the seeds in grapes when they have them. I've never liked eating the paper casing that some salami has. They're just all better without those extra annoyances. Watermelon seeds, isn't life just better without having to bother with them constantly?
I won't go so far as to say that orange peels are unnecessary, because an orange without a peel just would not last long. and if it did it''d be all dried out
 
7:40 PM
Yeah, cherries would suck if they didn't have that luscious chocolate coating.
 
boneless chicken wings, now that is civilization working for us.
 
Maybe they should sell Spam without the metallic wrapping.
 
Oh. You're really thinking.
You should just be able to go to a deli and say "fill my bag with Spam"
 
@Mitch Ask Richard Gere.
@KannE I first saw the term in this question:
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Q: Is there an "Oxford semicolon"?

Dog LoverI must admit that I don't use semicolon lists very often. (In some instances, I probably should have.) I will also admit that I'm neither-here-nor-there with the use of an Oxford comma. Sometimes I use it and sometimes I don't, depending on how clear I think my sentence is without it. (I suppose ...

@Mitch Oooh. It has telescope control.
Now I need a telescope controller.
 
I need a telescope
 
7:49 PM
@Robusto BTW I saw that video before (in fact YouTube keeps shoving it in my face every couple weeks for some reason), and all I remember was how disappointed I was with the first four levels of explanation. Collier is not too good at explaining things to people below his level. Which is, like, all the people.
 
@Mitch A telescope is the bomb.
 
Funny thing, I just watched this one an hour ago:
Now that is how you explain things to idiots.
Don't watch it, it hurts every step of the way.
 
@RegDwigнt Most people don't speak Music.
 
But it works.
Every idiot in the comments is now writing their own song.
 
I thought it was nice how he didn't bother with 'what is harmony?" with #3,4,5, because duh they've studied it for years already, and instead he just goes into "Oh with the same bass note we can have a G maj, a G min 7, an F aug neapolitan 9th, and exponentially more complicated chords naming them off the top of his head.
 
7:55 PM
@Robusto which didn't used to be that way. In Bach's time every housewife would learn music exactly the same way Bach did. As a language. Like, that's what that Gjerdingen's book is all about, for example.
 
@Mitch Isn't Neapolitan a Van-Choc-Straw triad?
 
Like, can you imagine a language teacher telling you, okay here's your first ten words in French, or Japanese or Russian or whatever, but you must never use them to form your own sentences. You may only repeat phrases that someone else said before you. You'd think him for an idiot and look for another teacher ASAP.
And yet that's exactly how we teach music these days.
 
@RegDwigнt Hadn't heard of Gjerdingen. Love the title of his book. Music in the Galant Style: Being an Essay on Various Schemata Characteristic of Eighteenth-Century Music for Courtly Chambers, Chapels, and Theaters, Including Tasteful Passages of Music Drawn from Most Excellent Chapel Masters in the Employ of Noble and Noteworthy Personages, Said Music All Collected for the Reader’s Delectation on the World Wide Web.
 
In their defense, if you jus let a beginner do what they want, it would suck just as bad and keep sucking
 
Which is why we now have orchestra musicians with 30 years of experience who can't so much as improvise a single bar, or even play "Holy Night" unless you give them the sheet music.
@MetaEd that book is to my immediate right right now. Like it always is. That title looks even more glorious on a physical copy. It weighs like a ton, too.
 
7:58 PM
@RegDwigнt There's people who say that math teaching is similar
 
What's with the starboard? It keeps dredging up old ones and cycling around through them.
5
 
@Mitch and yet the moment you learned your first three words in English, you started using them. And yes, decades later you still keep sucking, but you're sucking at a much higher level now.
 
I think some stars were deleted and the rest just lay according to the weighting algorithm
@RegDwigнt I almost have the accent down
@RegDwigнt But I didn't speak when I was a kid.
 
@Mitch I almost have got rid of accent. Catch up.
 
@RegDwigнt Pro tip: never mind accent, work on getting rid of acne first.
 
8:03 PM
I just popped right out at age 4 with "Of course none of them are his mother, except for the bird. What an idiot"
 
@Robusto I was wondering about that earlier. And I know that is of no help to you at all, but that's why I'm saying it.
@Robusto A Company that Neglects Everything?
Is that BP or Apple?
Instructions unclear.
 
@RegDwigнt An oxymoron. If you have acne, you don't have company, mostly.
 
Yeah you need misery for that.
 
Misery is no mystery.
 
There's no business like no business.
 
8:05 PM
That's shoe biz.
 
@MetaEd I'm not reading your filthy documentation. Where is the section of pictures?
 
Hmm, who deleted the stars on "Tom once knew a gal from Vancouver"?
That was mean and petty.
 
@Robusto and that's why they re-shot Back To The Future with Elisabeth Shoe instead of Claudia Wells.
@Robusto If I've learned on thing in the many years of using this place, it's yeah no I don't really want to know.
 
Hiii
 
8:17 PM
@WillHunting Yes, Cerberus pointed that out too chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/47127544#47127544 . I'm sorry. She is female.
 
@b_jonas I always thought Vivian was a female name. Turns out it is used for males, lol.
 
8:30 PM
@Mitch Oh, it's hilarious! It's a classic self-deprecating setup...judging someone from a seemingly higher vantage point, with an air of...something fishy, and then taking yourself down from your pedestal at the end. I love it.
 
8:57 PM
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Q: Equivalent of "weights" for things you divide by

GeorgeIf you're taking the weighted average of a list of numbers, you would multiply each number by its corresponding "weight". In this instance, higher weights mean the number has more influence in the final computation. Now, let's say that instead you're dividing by each "weight" instead of multiplyi...

 
@robusto There is some algorithm unknown to us. If a new message has only one star, it may be deemed less important than an old message with two stars, for example.
 
9:13 PM
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Q: Missing part of an idiom or expression I heard "Have you lost the [something] you were born with"

CrazlildreamerI am writing a story and my character is being scolded for doing something stupid. I have an expression on the tip of my tongue, but part of it keeps evading me! "Have you lost the [thing that keeps evading me] you were born with?" Is it the good senses you were born with? The brain you were born...

 
9:41 PM
@MetaEd Yes, I must read it in its entirety...after tacos or something.
 
@KannE that's a lovely metaphor. About a fish living in the air, on a pedestal, vantaging from above.
@WillHunting yeah on that note you should stop looking for Maria. That's a male name in Italy. And elsewhere.
Christoph Maria Herbst (* 9. Februar 1966 in Wuppertal) ist ein deutscher Schauspieler sowie Hörbuch- und Synchronsprecher. Für seine Darstellung des Stromberg in der gleichnamigen Comedy-Fernsehserie erhielt er unter anderem 2006 den Grimme-Preis und dreimal in Folge den Deutschen Comedypreis als „bester Schauspieler“. == Leben == === Jugend und Ausbildung === Herbst ist das jüngste Kind einer katholischen Familie. Sein Vater war Beamter, seine Mutter Hausfrau. Auch seine älteren Schwestern Stefanie und Isabell tragen den Zweitnamen Maria. Bereits in der Schule beteiligte er sich an K...
Rainer Maria Rilke (* 4. Dezember 1875 in Prag, Österreich-Ungarn; † 29. Dezember 1926 im Sanatorium Valmont bei Montreux, Schweiz; eigentlich: René Karl Wilhelm Johann Josef Maria Rilke) war Lyriker deutscher Sprache. Mit seiner in den Neuen Gedichten vollendeten, von der bildenden Kunst beeinflussten Dinglyrik gilt er als einer der bedeutendsten Dichter der literarischen Moderne.Aus Rilkes Werk sind etliche Erzählungen, ein Roman und Aufsätze zu Kunst und Kultur sowie zahlreiche Übersetzungen von Literatur und Lyrik bekannt. Sein umfangreicher Briefwechsel gilt als wichtiger Bestandteil seines…
Maybe look for Andrea instead?
Andrea Bocelli, OMRI, OMDSM (Italian pronunciation: [anˈdrɛːa boˈtʃɛlli]; born 22 September 1958) is an Italian singer, songwriter, and record producer. Celine Dion has said that "if God would have a singing voice, he must sound a lot like Andrea Bocelli," and David Foster, a record producer, often describes Bocelli's voice as the most beautiful in the world. Bocelli has recorded 15 solo studio albums of both pop and classical music, three greatest hits albums, and nine complete operas, selling over 90 million records worldwide. He has had success as a crossover performer, bringing classical music...
For he won't be looking for you.
 
10:18 PM
@KannE aha! Then you should answer with a word!
 
@RegDwigнt You're welcome. It is quite lovely, but it's a simile...without all the likes.
 
@RegDwigнt LOL. Maybe I should change Maria to something else. I will use Sara from now, take note.
@RegDwigнt Yes, in fact he is the original singer of the first song on my channel, and that song has a semi-English version as well, but I do prefer the completely Italian version which is what I did. There is even a semi-Dutch version which he did with Marco Borsato in the Netherlands.
 
10:54 PM
@Mitch A word!? Have you seen "Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee"? They have jokes catergorized as..."I know you are, but what am I?"...named after the best joke in that genre, I gathered, whatever that means, but not "stealing" that specific joke. It's definitely self-deprecating humor though, IMO.
 
@KannE I've heard of comedians, and I've been in a car but what is this 'coffee' of which you speak? Is that the word you will give as an answer
 
11:13 PM
@Mitch Is that a joke or have you not seen that Seinfeld series (on Netflix, maybe elsewhere)?
@Mitch I have to read the question again. I don't think he/she wants a word from the reader's perspective (I was just agreeing that, yes, I think it's self-deprecating humor, too). I think the word is...something about the character's viewpoint? I didn't get it the 1st time.
 
11:40 PM
Oh, I had it backwards; then I don't understand...what type of joke is it from the reader's viewpoint other than self-deprecating? Oh, I know, it's a little old lady joke, evidently...because no one got mine either, and it was a beaut! I tell ya, an absolute beaut!
 
@KannE I've heard of it but never seen it. I don't believe in karaoke. It somehow seems wrong
Not wrong like murder is wrong, but wrong like chocolate and onions
wrong like chlorine bleach and oven cleaner
 
@Mitch Is that a word-association joke? Is that a legit genre or did you just make it up?
 
wrong like a rotten leaves on an abandoned pool
wrong like word-assaciotion jokes and intentional malapropisms
wrong like a square peg
 
@Mitch I know about chlorine bleach and ammonia wrong...our drafting teacher told us it made him pass out over the toilet. If I had taken home ec, I may have learned about the oven cleaner wrongness, but I never did.
 
@KannE argh...ammonia..that was what I was thinking of.
oven cleaner is ... is it lye? It's pretty nasty stuff
@KannE So what is the best joke? Please tell...
 
11:56 PM
@Mitch Which planet are you from?
 
Do you mean where was I born or where did I grow up? My parents moved around a lot.
I was what you'd call a Star Fleet brat
 
@Mitch Do you have many karaoke pubs there?
 
Oh, that question was just asked on this site!
 

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