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Tonepoet

3:52 AM

@tchrist Perhaps it does not. You also have the option of wearing a kilt if you can play the bagpipes. Otherwise, I'll have you arrested for textual indecent exposure.

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7:41 AM

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user288256

11:17 AM

I can't seem to talk in good English when I have slept for only three hours in the whole twenty four hours.

tchrist

11:28 AM

@Ghalib Neither can I.

terdon

I neither.

Mitch

12:05 PM

mphmnghhnnn

tchrist

1:18 PM

1

Q: Is there a word for "kind/sweet" girl?

Example sentence: I wondered why such a __ like Mary had fallen for such a jerk like Tom. I thought of sweetheart but I think the word is more associated to "attractive" woman.

single-word-requests

How many random synonyms of nice do you think there are?

> absorbing, alluring, amiable, appealing, attractive, bewitching,
captivating, charismatic, charming, choice, cute, dainty, delectable,
delicate, delightful, desirable, electrifying, elegant, enamoring,
engaging, engrossing, enthralling, entrancing, eye-catching, fascinating,
fetching, glamorous, graceful, infatuating, inviting, irresistible,
likable, lovable, lovely, magnetizing, nice, pleasant, pleasing,
provocative, rapturous, ravishing, seducing, seductive, sweet, tantalizing,
tempting, titillating, winning, winsome.

I'm so underwhelmed by these.

It simply seems Too Broad: if someone can please tell me why I'm wrong, I'm all ears.

Gigili

1:43 PM

@Færd Thank you for the detailed explanation.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Well, those words are not nouns, but yeah this is basically a Mad Libs question

RegDwigнt

Waifu.

That's a noun.

The whole sentence sucks balls, however.
It must not be "such an X like Mary", it must be "an X such as Mary".

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

No, I think in that case such is used to intensify how much of an X Mary is.

RegDwigнt

I am not saying it doesn't do that. I am saying it sounds horrible.

This is not good writing.

The topic is most immature as well.

Really, finding a noun is the least of this author's problems.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

But you can't just move the such to somewhere else in the sentence, that changes its meaning.

RegDwigнt

1:56 PM

Whatever. I was trying to help.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

psh. as usual. Always trying to help.

Gigili

Help us don't help us, as they put it

RegDwigнt

And just by the way, it is not intensifying anything right now because he ain't got a word in there FFS.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Says you! That blank space is so intensified!

most intensified blank space ever

RegDwigнt

Well then. Godspeed.

Such a godspeed, even.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

1:59 PM

such writing

very blank

wow

NNBSP

negro negro big sausage pizza?

I ain't fluent in no l33tsp34k.

Færd

Why would you write it indestructible if you're going to read it indestructable?

Mitch

2:10 PM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 also dating advice.

RegDwigнt

@Færd for the same reason you write Manchester even if you pronounce it Liverpool.

The reason being, "English, biatch".

Mitch

@Færd e i e i o?

RegDwigнt

@Mitch oh I would need some of that, mate.

Færd

@RegDwigнt Well, not all English speakers pronounce it like that. Some of them call a duck a duck and an eagle an eagle.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Færd what do you mean, "read" it?

Færd

2:13 PM

@Mitch Aye, aye.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

the -ible and -able suffixes mean the same thing

RegDwigнt

@Færd Apple calls a fuck a duck. And an alarming amount of English speakers do use Apple.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 The Holy Bable.

tchrist

@RegDwigнt U+202F NARROW NO-BREAK SPACE

Færd

indestructible
adjective in·de·struc·ti·ble \ˌin-di-ˈstrək-tə-bəl\

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Færd oh, you mean "pronounce" it?

RegDwigнt

2:15 PM

@tchrist that's just a euphemism for a big sausage.

Færd

(the ə-bəl part)

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Yeah.

tchrist

Can't break those.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

it's an unstressed vowel following a stressed syllable. It always gets reduced.

So it doesn't matter how it's spelled

RegDwigнt

The syllible is gullable.

Just win baby

pronunciation is not apart of reading

RegDwigнt

2:16 PM

As aptly demonstrated by Just win baby just now.

Færd

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Except it does sometimes. The British, I reckon, pronounce it /ɪb(ə)l/.

RegDwigнt

Well yes. Is there another way?

Færd

/-ə-bəl/

With a schwa.

Mitch

@tchrist my brother, guard your pants; my sister, guard your eyes

Færd

@Mitch Hey you have that too?

Mitch

2:19 PM

@RegDwigнt You should ask on ELU. They know where the diacritics lie.

Just win baby

"schwa" is tricky

Mitch

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 and sound identical as far as I am concerned

RegDwigнt

No. Nonono. No. This Mitch guy is wrong. Don't listen to him. He's giving bad advice.

tchrist

@Færd Unclear. Possibly even unlikely.

Mitch

@Færd Pfft. The British.

Gigili

2:21 PM

@Mitch Do they smell bad?

Færd

@tchrist Oh?

RegDwigнt

Just you wait till you run into a Geordie, mate. Or an Australian.

Just win baby

@Gigili that would be "pew"

Færd

That was ODO's phonemic transcription.

Mitch

@Færd well duh

tchrist

2:22 PM

@Færd It's the roses/Rosa’s thing.

RegDwigнt

Wrong. I do want to see my underwear.

tchrist

For the most part, all reduced syllables reduce to schwa.

Mitch

@RegDwigнt You asked for dating advice. I gave it. Ingrate.

RegDwigнt

Which part of that advice was pertaining to dating?

Sorry I am a noob to the whole thing.

Færd

I was under the illusion that sometimes I clearly heard the -ible suffix like with an ɪ.

tchrist

2:24 PM

Most people don't even know which words have -ible.

Færd

@Mitch Go commando. Problem solved.

Mitch

@Gigili Neither hot nor cold, I spit it out of my mouth.

Nastay

RegDwigнt

@Færd Well yes. Just like the -ed is not pronounced the same in finished, remembered, and excited.

Mitch

@Justwinbaby pew pew pew... space-man lasers smell the worst

Færd

@RegDwigнt That one's more obvious.

RegDwigнt

2:26 PM

@Mitch Sorry, is that still dating advice?

Mitch

@RegDwigнt Exactly. That's why you came here for advice. You're welcome

Færd

@tchrist Good. So I can stop fretting about figuring out this one.

Mitch

@tchrist Tribble

tchrist

@Mitch No -ible there.

Færd

Treble.

tchrist

2:27 PM

River City

RegDwigнt

I came for dating advice, and all I got was a big sausage pizza and smelly space-man lasers.

Story of my life.

tchrist

Don't know how you can tell how big the sausage used for the pizza was.

RegDwigнt

I think I can confidently say that this must be the one occasion on which the size of the sausage definitely does not matter.

Do not want. Any size.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Færd I'm not sure they do, but let's assume they do. How would you spell it in that case?

Mitch

@Færd I'm pretty sure the stormtroopers who rappel down the outside of the building to smash through your windows, shoot up the place, eat the Nutella, and drag away the women of child bearing age (have id at the ready), are wearing some sort of groinal protection, you know, because glass shards

@RegDwigнt Use it as you will, space-man.

RegDwigнt

2:30 PM

Why does Mitch live in a video game?

And why is it Killzone Shadowfall, of all things?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwigнt These days it's preferable to reality, and more realistic too

Mitch

@tchrist Wells Fargo? Gary Indiana?

RegDwigнt

I'd rather go with Horizon Zero Dawn, frankly.

Same studio, too.

Mitch

@RegDwigнt I'd prefer another story

Færd

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I thought it was \ə-bəl\ for -able and \ɪ-bəl\ for -ible, and I'm being told otherwise.

RegDwigнt

2:32 PM

You know guys, Mrs Hiny might be onto something here.
Because last time I went to the store to get me Nutella, they didn't have it in 4k.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Færd But you just claimed that the British use /ɪ/. Wouldn't that be a good reason to spell it with -i ?

RegDwigнt

Not in English, no.

Mitch

@RegDwigнt this is the video game I live in...

RegDwigнt

In English, an i is typically spelled as an ough.

Færd

I'm breaking up. See you in a better connection.

RegDwigнt

2:34 PM

Oh fuck me, that's Qix. Best game evar.

Mitch

@RegDwigнt Oe

RegDwigнt

Wimin.

Mitch

@RegDwigнt I didn't say that? Hm.. not thinking loud enough

anybody can shoot shit all day.

RegDwigнt

You're thinking to eleven.

Mitch

but fear... that's all there is

RegDwigнt

2:38 PM

I think that's spelled fiar.

Or maybe vier.

My Hangeul is rusty.

Gigili

No matter what the spelling the pronunciation is always the same.

RegDwigнt

Oh yeah go tell that to the Geordies and the Australians.

Mitch

No matter what the pronunciation the spelling is always the same

Gigili

Never date an Australian.

Mitch

They're all pretty old

Gigili

2:43 PM

old and smelly

pffft.

Mitch

pew

RegDwigнt

Old and Spicy.

Mitch

wait...when I say 'pfft' I mean it as dismissive. You can smell any way you want with pfft.

RegDwigнt

Yes, that's oil factory for you.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Australia, as everyone knows, is entirely peopled with criminals!

RegDwigнt

2:45 PM

I don't think everyone knows that.

Mitch

I didn't know that

RegDwigнt

In fact I am fairly confident most people don't know anything.

You need proof, alt-tab to the main site for a sec.

Mitch

They know a few things

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

guys

you guys

it's a Princess Bride quote

RegDwigнt

NOU

Mitch

2:47 PM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 you fell into our trap

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Fell for one of the classic blunders

RegDwigнt

Like an Australian.

Mitch

Walking like the name of a Bangles song

RegDwigнt

Princess Bride was scored by Mark Knopfler, you ponce.

Mitch

Exactly. He walks like an Australian

RegDwigнt

2:49 PM

As do most people.

Mitch

Your point?

RegDwigнt

Where?

Mitch

It's on the top of your head

RegDwigнt

Hm.

Mitch

Thank you

RegDwigнt

2:50 PM

NOU

Mitch

Done

Wait...

Done again

Done, done, done.

I hate to bring up Joe Dimaggio, but there it is.

RegDwigнt

A nation turns its lonely eyes to him.

Mitch

That would make even me self-conscious

RegDwigнt

2:53 PM

When you were young, you never needed anyone.

Mitch

When you were young, you used to say live and let live.

RegDwigнt

I hope you're old before I die.

Mitch

You know you did

I'm just waiting for the buffet to open up

RegDwigнt

Warren never opens up.

tchrist

Thought I'd something more to say.

Mitch

2:56 PM

You come on with your come ons. You don't fight fair.

RegDwigнt

Ei, leen.

Mitch

Reminds me of a joke...

tchrist

Please don't.

Mitch

What's a Japanese girl with one leg called?

tchrist

damn it

Gigili

2:57 PM

@Mitch An Australian?

Mitch

lol

@Gigili close!

@Gigili but fixed

Gigili

Close to an Australian? There is no such a thing

Mitch

what's her name?

there's a whole bunch of jokes like that.

tchrist

Keep it clean, folks.

Mitch

What is a guy with no arms and no legs called and floats in the water? Bob

RegDwigнt

2:59 PM

So Cardinal Pell walks into a kindergarten and doesn't immediately abuse everyone.

Mitch

Hilarity exits, pursued by a bear

tchrist

To see what he could see.

RegDwigнt

@tchrist I don't think you understand how carpool jokes work.

tchrist

I have carpool tunnel vision.

Gigili

Closiafix

Mitch

3:01 PM

@Gigili Idéfix?

Gigili

Genau

Mitch

or however they write it

Gigili

Now you are cheating

Mitch

@Gigili I changed the spelling is all

Gigili

@Mitch Bob or Bubble?

Færd

3:03 PM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Umm, sure?

Gigili

In fizzy water, not still

Færd

My claim was based on the different transcriptions on British and American ODOs. Check for yourself: 1, 2.

Mitch

@Gigili خخ

Færd

But folks here didn't take that serious.

Mitch

Bob, because he's bobbin up and down in the water

Færd

3:05 PM

@Mitch You need more خs.

Mitch

@Færd two ain't enough?

Færd

Nah.

Mitch

you guys laugh a lot then

RegDwigнt

@Færd hey I did! Speak for the other wankers.

Færd

@Mitch And it's catching up. I'm not sure what generation @Gigili belongs to.

RegDwigнt

3:07 PM

Well, X, Y, and Z are all taken, so I guess we've wrapped all the way back to A again.

Mitch

@Færd خخخ

how about now?

Færd

@RegDwigнt You branched off on Liverpool and Manchester, as far as I remember.

@Mitch Better.

Mitch

@Færd she's sui generation

RegDwigнt

It's not a branch off if it's a reinforcement.

Færd

@Mitch That's short for suicide?

RegDwigнt

3:09 PM

I reinforced it in other ways, too. All the while everyone else was going "oh no, everything is pronounced the same and means the same and who cares".

Færd

And you was like "English, biatch!".

Mitch

@Færd sui generis = of its own kind = one-of-a-kind

RegDwigнt

Exactomundo.

Færd

@Mitch Ah.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Færd So, two things. One: it's an unstressed vowel so if it gets reduced to schwa that's perfectly normal regardless of what vowel is used to spell it.

Færd

3:10 PM

@RegDwigнt Well, thanks for your support.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Two: -able and -ible come from different latin roots according to Oxford Dictonaries

Mitch

@RegDwigнt You're far-sighted, a trail-blazer, a revolutionary, I'd go so far as to say you're a maverick, but it's late and I'm tired so I'll save it for another more opportune time.

Kit Z. Fox

'lo

RegDwigнt

@Mitch cut it off, Sarah, I can see you from my porch.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Essentially, the choice of -ible was made years ago by people who liked Latin more than English and didn't care about future English speakers who don't give two shits about Latin.

RegDwigнt

3:12 PM

Have you been to the Internet? No speaker of anything gives anything about anything.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwigнt Sadly, the Internet hadn't been invented when they standardized English spellings.

RegDwigнt

They will literally not wash themselves for three days, and that's their video.

Mitch

@Færd I've heard recently that you're not supposed to say 'X committed suicide'. Instead 'X died by suicide'. I think that's OK.

Færd

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 So so we know if they pronounced the to suffixes differently? How exactly does the historical stuff pertains to the pronunciations?

RegDwigнt

@KitZ.Fox J'

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

3:13 PM

Those old fuddy duddy English types could only not give two shits about future English speakers. They didn't now how to not give two shits about everything else.

Mitch

@Færd English speaking kids have trouble spelling -ible, and -able words all the time because 1) kids are dumb, and 2) there's no #2

Færd

@Mitch You might offend someone?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Færd The etymology explains the spelling.

RegDwigнt

They knew. They were wise. I wish I was fuddy duddy.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

The local English accent explains the pronunciation.

Unstressed vowels get reduced and that one is unstressed.

RegDwigнt

3:14 PM

The local English accent can't even explain itself.

Aight.

Færd

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Yeah.

So the question, if there is one, is why it didn't get reduced for some.

Mitch

@Færd I'm not sure what the reasoning is. something to do with 'commit' implying... something.

It's a thing.

Kit Z. Fox

hadn't heard that

Færd

Well explained.

Relieves the dead of the guilt.

Kit Z. Fox

maybe recognizes the illness aspect?

Mitch

3:17 PM

@Færd Oh... that's because adults are dumb too. They think that in English you have to pronounce everything the way it was written, letter for letter.

Færd

That's the language they need after the Resurrection.

Mitch

@Færd I think it is something like that

It's also the only thing that is 'committed' like that.

except for perjury maybe

@KitZ.Fox yeah.

or to an institution

oh

or adultery

3:18 PM

dangit

Kit Z. Fox

or to a relationship

Mitch

it's like nothing is not committed

Færd

@Mitch What if you survive?

Mitch

I get it!

argh!

Kit Z. Fox

hahah

Mitch

3:18 PM

Wait..any more?

Kit Z. Fox

probably

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Færd well, /ɪ/ is a reduced vowel.

Mitch

@Færd I think 'attempted suicide' is still OK

RegDwigнt

And you need to commit them all to memory.

Mitch

I mean it's all pretty serious so a bit taboo, so feelings are high about it.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

3:20 PM

> in addition to schwa, there is a distinct near-close central unrounded vowel [ɪ̈] (or equivalently [ɨ̞]). In the British phonetic tradition, the latter vowel is represented with the symbol /ɪ/

Mitch

there's a show on netflix, '13 ways to somethety something', about suicide that ... ugh... sorry for bringing this up. shit is bad enough already without that.

Færd

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Ah, good to know, thanks.

@Mitch Can you still call people deaf?

Mitch

like for example... goddam you all for keeping me from the buffet table!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Færd from wikipedia

Mitch

@Færd hm...yeah. pretty sure

dumb means stupid not mute so dumb is not nice.

lame hardly means 'trouble walking' so I'm not sure about that.

Færd

3:22 PM

I thought it was replaced with hearing impaired.

Mitch

no one thinks about the people who can't smell. it's almost like a privilege.

Færd

Or taste.

Mitch

@Færd well...that's not a euphemism for a pejorative word. just like 'blind'...it's being more nuanced about the range of the ability. some people can see light and shapes but should drive.

@Færd People with bad taste are the worst

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

My mom lost her sense of smell one day. It came back 18 months later, never told anyone where it went or what it was up to the whole time.

Mitch

My brother hadn't had it for a long time, didn't really bother him, but was curious, asked a doc, got prescribed some decongestants or something, smell came back.

Færd

3:25 PM

It's good to be able to smell shit.

Mitch

Lasted only a week. Works in Health care.

Stopped the meds of his own accord.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

haha, funny you say that, the first thing my mom smelled when her sense of smell came back was a dirty diaper.

Færd

@Mitch I thought it was the trend toward being overly polite.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

For a while she could only smell bad things

Mitch

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 It's not so terrible the younger they are. as they get older and start having more solid foods, it smells more... adult.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

3:26 PM

@Mitch yeah it wasn't for a newborn, let's just say

Mitch

@Færd hm.. maybe. I thought it was politeness about the range. or maybe people who can see/hear partially don't like the blind/deaf words but want people to know they have troubles.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 haha. yuck.

I'm kidding about the buffet. There's no buffet. sigh

Færd

@Mitch Can you be nuanced about color-blindness?

I'm OK with color-blind, although I can distinguish lots of them.

So I expect blind people to own up and stop ranting about being called blind.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Færd Do blind people not want to be called blind?

Mitch

I don't think so. You either got it or you don't? Also it doesn't seem that terrible a problem that makes it taboo, more like you have red hair. people may judge you for it but it doesn't have much practical significance (except maybe at stop lights)

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 bald people don't want to be called bald

Færd

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I think there's another term, visually impaired or something.

Mitch

3:33 PM

exactly the same thing

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mitch we don't?

@Færd well, there are different kinds of visual impairment.

My mother in law is visually impaired. She's not blind though.

Mitch

follicularly challenged

involuntarily shaven-appearance

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mitch that's just a joke though

Mitch

alopecia

Færd

@Mitch Hey, don't underestimate what I went through. It's hard when you can't tell the color of your girlfriend's eyes.

And you find yourself in a fix because of that.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I don't know. I've heard so, but I was just making a joke.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

3:38 PM

@Færd Surely that's easily remedied, for any girlfriend worth keeping, by explaining that colour isn't your strong suit.

Tonepoet

@tchrist I think RegDwight covered it already,but even if we suppose it was meant to be an adjective, I would think that at least half of those words do not actually match the meaning of sweet implied by the provided context. Glamorous is an especially confounding suggestion.

tchrist

I simply linked to sweet.

Mitch

@Færd oh sure. It's just that we started with blind-blindness and worked our way up. If we had started with 'Oh I can't tell the difference between fuchsia and magenta' it would be different.

Tonepoet

@tchrist By suggesting that the answer is overly broad, and providing a list of answers, you strongly imply that all of those answers are legitimate, because overly broad means too many legitimate answers exist to the question and it doesn't make sense to suggest anything else.

tchrist

Fine. I'll change to links to "nice" instead.

Or "good".

Tonepoet

3:48 PM

Then it has no relation to the question. XP

tchrist

Does so.

Mitch

@tchrist Which is it? Make up your mind, man! is it good or is it nice? Is it nice or is it good?

tchrist

She's nice and good.

Mitch

She's probably just OK anyway

tchrist

Cake edible.

Mitch

3:49 PM

mmm... cake

tchrist

There can be no objective criterion for these fishing expeditions.

It's just a guessing game fueled by votes.

And the network hotties list.

If we can get an expert answer that actually adds something meaningful to our growing library of expert solutions to real problems, I'll eat your hat.

This is all because people don't know many words and can't be arsed to try.

Mitch

voted to close as too broad

tchrist

See englishrequests.stackexchange.com

Tonepoet

@tchrist Sure there can be, esp. when the questioner suggests one (a word that isn't strongly associated to attractiveness). In that regard, I'm not even sure if Angel really fits, since it has those connotations.

tchrist

I look forward to reading your answer.

Tonepoet

3:54 PM

I don't have one to be honest. However what we're discussing is whether the question is overly broad or not, so that may just be indicative that it's not.

tchrist

I'm ready to add the single-word-requests tag to my banned list I never see. I'm tired of trash.

6

Mitch

I'm ready to discuss whether diacritics and alternate letters are correct

Onward Thorn!

tchrist

There is no correct. There is only alternate letters.

Will you settle for Hafþór?

Mitch

No correct. No incorrect. Only do

@tchrist Everyother one is correct

what the hell is wynn? No one uses that.

Tonepoet

@tchrist I think if we imposed different research criteria on the S.W.R. it'd be a more interesting type of question. I'd rather see people check against the Oxford 3000 list than a thesaurus...

Or perhaps more accurately, I'd like to see them do both rather than neither.

Færd

4:30 PM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I'm not the keeping type.

RaceYouAnytime

Interesting short read for those bored: washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/06/20/…

Tonepoet

7:11 PM

@RaceYouAnytime Just Ukraine sounds weird to be honest. If it was Ukrania, as the article suggests it probably was originally, it probably wouldn't happen.

Also, out of all of the mocking of presidential speech, I find this to be the least newsworthy. Any popularist account of the language wouldn't really account this as an error because even by the article's own admission, it's so commonplace.

Which is not to say that I hold popular use in high regard myself, but as far as I know that's supposed to be the ideal we are supposed to use today.

Robusto

8:05 PM

Dupe of 6-year-old original.

Færd

8:24 PM

A child a minute. Ain' it something.

It's probably not very easy to collect data in the area and provide accurate statistics about the epidemic, but it can just as likely mean that the situation is much worse than we know.

user288256

8:39 PM

Quite sad.

user288256

My heart goes out to all those affected.

Færd

There's, altogether, 99 hits in COCA for "state sponsor of terrorism" and "state-sponsored terrorism". A quick ctrl+F search shows that "Iran" happens to be mentioned 33 times on the results pages, while Saudi Arabia only once.

Gigili

9:02 PM

@Færd Your point?

Færd

This is ELU chat, and I just formally christened a popular phrase as a collocation in the US political rhetoric.

I've heard that term used for Iran even by some US democrats and liberals. While I appreciate any rightful criticism leveled at Iran's regime for its foreign policy, I think the wrong collocation is adopted.

BTW, make no mistake: if there's a single country worthy of that title, I don't believe it's SA (there's a U missing in that).

Gigili

9:21 PM

Your point?

Well, I don't get it.

Færd

9:33 PM

You could be more specific about what you don't get. Do you not get the how the COCA search I did relates to the piece of news about Yemen? Do you not get why I did the COCA search? Or what?

MetaEd

TIL a bully pulpit is a first-rate pulpit.

user288256

@Tonepoet Tone I don't know what you mean by "hand drawn animation". I get the mental picture of characters in old Capcom games when you say that but I might be mistaken.

Tonepoet

11:14 PM

@Ghalib These days that'd be called pixel art, mostly because it's low resolution and hence 'pixely' for lack of a better word, and often drawn pixel by pixel. It doesn't really make sense to wait for that, since we've always had it. Video game slang also uses the word 'sprites' for character animation. When I say hand drawn, I mean like this:

That's a screenshot from Cuphead. I'm oneboxing it because I presume you didn't click the link provided.

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