English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

Robusto

1:17 AM

@JohanLarsson: Hey! Wake up and go to sleep!

Mississippi Fred McDowell: Baby Please Don't Go

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Robusto

1:48 AM

We have matter and antimatter. Why shouldn't we have phonemes and antiphonemes? An antiphoneme would be quite a phonemenon.

tchrist

3:54 AM

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Q: Qual a diferença entre ironia e sarcasmo?

De forma simples, qual a diferença e como definir o que é ironia e o que é sarcasmo?

@RegDwigнt You’re right: they’re just weird.

skill patrol

4:12 AM

How's the ear feeling @tchrist?

SmokeDetector

4:27 AM

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skill patrol

5:16 AM

:O I think I set off the smoke alarm

Oxinabox

9:25 AM

I struggle to decide if this kind of question belongs here or on linguistics:
http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/261504/for-non-modal-auxiliary-verb-is-the-non-3rd-person-singular-present-form-the-sa

RegDwigнt

@Robusto what's a "lawn"?

Also, what good are definitions for?

> Fantastique ! #NigelRichards, Néozélandais ne parlant pas français, est champion du monde de Scrabble francophone.

Hakase

yo, guys!

can you recommend an app for phones that can be used to learn the meanings of sophisticated English words?

RegDwigнt

> Said Yves Brenez, vice president of the Belgian Scrabble Federation: “If you speak to him he can only say ‘bonjour’, with an accent. He can give the scores in French, because the rules demand it, but that’s it.”

Hakase

I'm looking for expanding my vocabulary with less frequently used terms so I don't feel like an idiot at fancy conversations with royalty :p

some of the users over at Anime&Manga chat would also like to find such an app

RegDwigнt

I don't use apps, sorry. Maybe someone else does.

But as far as conversations with royalty goes, it's not the words that matter. It's the style. The syntax. The manners. Nothing with words.

You can still say things like "meat" and "car" and "day".

You don't need to say "amaranthine victuals" all the time.

In fact if you ever said that it'd be pretty dumb.

Anyway, if I were looking for a dictionary app, I'd just look for a dictionary app. I don't think there can be significant differences. It's just a dictionary.

Our meta has no dedicated questions, either. Probably for that very reason.

These days, you can just type your sophisticated word into a Google search box, et voilà, you've learned its meaning.

Hakase

9:46 AM

googling a word is not exactly what I'm looking for

guys over at ELL recommend ankisrs.net

it does look like what I'm looking for

RegDwigнt

Wait, that's flash cards. That's a different thing entirely.

And the bad news is, you won't be able to learn a language using flash cards.

Hakase

10:10 AM

I'm not trying to learn a language, I've been fine with English for more than ten years now

I also found out that flashcards are the sort of apps I need for this

well, I found what I wanted, and now I go back to my main chat room where you're welcome anytime

Johan Larsson

10:29 AM

ok I need a word, one word.

What is a mother in law but grand mother in law if that makes sense?

Johan Larsson

10:50 AM

How are things @terdon?

Robusto

@RegDwigнt I guess they don't have those in your neck of the woods. Or, lately, in California.

@JohanLarsson I guess grandmother-in-law would work.

Johan Larsson

It is for formal use, still ok?

Robusto

@Hakase Is that otaku chat?

@JohanLarsson Sure. It's fine.

Johan Larsson

ty sir

Robusto

Note that it's a derivative form, but one that will be instantly understood everywhere and in all registers. If you want to be painfully formal you could say "the mother of my mother-in-law" but I don't see any need for that.

terdon

11:00 AM

@JohanLarsson Coming along :)

Johan Larsson

@Robusto It is for my friends visa application, he plans to move to south africa.

Hakase

@Robusto a bit

we talk about everything

sometimes there is talk about anime or manga but it's usually less than ~30% of the time

general entertainment talk usually

Robusto

@Hakase 日本語で話しますか？

Hakase

don't even try that with me, I don't have any idea what any of these mean

there are a few users in the room who know, but we don't speak moon ruins

Robusto

I asked if people talk in Japanese there, but I guess not.

Hakase

11:06 AM

rarely and it's not encouraged

we do want to understand what the talk is about

there's Japanese chat room but we don't go there

Robusto

Understood.

Hakase

our room is different from all others

ours is about fun, and the rest… idk really

Robusto

That's what everyone says.

Hakase

we got our own vision of fun

come see if you like it

Robusto

Perchance I will.

Reason I asked about talking in Japanese there was that your room's title has nihongo in it.

Johan Larsson

11:14 AM

@Rob pretty good album, ty for the link.

Hakase

eh it's just for fancy room name effect

Robusto

@Hakase Don't tease me, bro. I'm ready to bring it in nihongo.

-1

Q: Ex Machina VS Deus Ex Machina

I have recently watched a movie called" Ex Machina " I searched for the meaning, but Deus Ex Machina was the closest to this title.There certainly must be a relation but can someone please tell me what that might be?

meaning

Off topic.

Hakase

@Robusto you totally can, and I know a few users that will like it, but idk how the rest will react

we just ignore those two mostly, but if it will be too much, they might be asked to take it to Japanese chat

terdon

Me parece que sois un poco demasiado estrictos con eso de las lenguas.

Hakase

something about strictness and languages :p

terdon

11:21 AM

Y'all are too strict about the languages you allow in this chat room you speak of.

Παραείστε αυστηροί με τις γλωσσες.

Hakase

it's not about learning languages, so we don't expect all the folks present to know Japanese

terdon

What kind of chat room disallows linguistic chaos? For shame!

:P

Hakase

also we talk about programming languages sometimes, so not that strict really

RegDwigнt

> The NZ Parliament has rammed through law changes in just hours to validate tens of thousands of potentially illegal speeding tickets.
The tickets were issued in up to 25 local government areas which may have failed to renew their speed limits from 2004, meaning all tickets issued on roads other than the open road for the last 11 years may have been invalid.
In a rare move, the Government back-dated the law changes to ensure no one could mount a legal challenge.

Err. Correct me if I'm wrong, but NZ is subject to Common Law, where ex post facto is verboten.

Nullum crimen, nulla poena sine praevia lege poenali.

That shit, you know.

Robusto

@terdon Si, yo lo creo también.

@RegDwigнt That's Greek to me.

RegDwigнt

11:29 AM

How much do you charge for it to become Nahuatl to you?

Robusto

Far less than $3000.

Click the link to get the actual price.

RegDwigнt

That... is far less than $3000! Wow.

Robusto

You didn't click yet.

Here: actual price.

RegDwigнt

I charge $3001 per click.

Robusto

Looks like we don't have a deal.

RegDwigнt

11:31 AM

Also, I know all the URLs of all rickrolls by heart by now.

Robusto

So you paid the price already. OK.

RegDwigнt

Manyfold.

Such were the times. Good times.

These days nobody even knows who Rick Astley is anymore.

Robusto

That one has Russian comments, though.

RegDwigнt

History repeats itself.

@Robusto I can put Russian comments on anything myself, thank you very much.

Robusto

@RegDwigнt I'm sure you can, and I'm sure they're the envy of the civilized world and just perfect for YouTube comments. But you might like to see what other bonehead Russians are saying once in a while. You know, check out the competition.

RegDwigнt

11:34 AM

I run out of competition. Always have, always will.

Robusto

*on

RegDwigнt

I on out of competition. Always have, always will.

Thank you.

Robusto

*run out on

But you knew that.

RegDwigнt

I knew over seven other things, too.

I am a marvel of DC engineering.

So is that how Ron Paul got his first name? He said "run" and someone said "*on" and he totally misunderstood?

Robusto

Happened with his son too. To denote that the new Paul was a new addition, Ron referred to him as "And Paul" which got corrupted to Rand Paul.

RegDwigнt

11:40 AM

Dedicated to his parents, Ayn Rand and Paul.

Half a mile from my home, there's a driving school where the owner struggled where in the name exactly to put the "and son" bit.

He ended up with Georgs Fahrschulunternehmen und Sohn.

I must say, it is exactly as worst as any of the alternatives.

Mitch

@JohanLarsson Oh! I have one!

Johan Larsson

but you know things

tchrist

@skillpatrol Troubling. See doctor in 5 hours.

RegDwigнt

This is taking forever.

Robusto

@RegDwigнt I'm surprised he didn't deck it out a little more, something on the order of Hauptbesondersfahrschulunternehmenregierung oder so etwas.

RegDwigнt

11:46 AM

And it is herewith that I support your surprise.

Robusto

Clearly that is many letters better than the original.

Mitch

@JohanLarsson Oh, that's not the word I was thinking of.

Robusto

At least 23 letters better, by my informal count.

RegDwigнt

And that is over 22 letters!

Robusto

Clearly.

RegDwigнt

11:47 AM

Ach du liebes Bißchen.

Robusto

No love bites for me, tyvm.

tchrist

Basta com as bichas.

RegDwigнt

Glove hurts, glove scars. Glove wounds and marks.

So anyway. Give it up for Ben's ice cream and Jerry.

Robusto

The new game that's sweeping the South: Six Degrees of Segregation (now with confederate flags!)

RegDwigнt

Neocon flags for short.

@Robusto okay let's see. Kevin Bacon wasn't in Nine and a Half Weeks with Laurence Fishburne. Laurence Fishburne wasn't in A River Runs Through It with Reese Witherspoon. Reese Witherspoon was not with you in The Thin Red Line. Conclusion: you are Tom Tykwer.

Robusto

11:56 AM

I know not this Tykwer. I can hardly even type that.

RegDwigнt

That always happens when you're trying to type "alibi" instead.

Run Lola Run, The Perfume, Cloud Atlas etcpp.

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Q: Using of wish in English

Now I feel sick. I wish I ( didn't eat) or (hadn't eaten) pork with cheese for dinner. I would use " hadn't eaten" as it was my dinner but " now I feel sick" makes me be confused.

grammar

No. That is not how you write a title. No, no, no.

skill patrol

titles are imporant

yes, yes, yes

:-)

terdon

@RegDwigнt Why didn't you just close that as GR? Am I missing something?

Robusto

He gets points for editing first.

skill patrol

perhaps, perhaps, perhaps

:D

Robusto

12:05 PM

Cake - Perhaps, Perhaps, Perhaps

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I presume that is the reference?

RegDwigнt

@terdon I wouldn't know where to look it up. What is your link?

skill patrol

excellent presumption

RegDwigнt

@Robusto dude will not stand this presumptiousness.

Robusto

If you really love me say yes / but if you don't dear, confess

terdon

@Robusto He ate pork with cheese, not cake.

@RegDwigнt True. It's really basic English though.

Robusto

12:09 PM

@terdon Aren't those both in the saturated fat food group?

skill patrol

BASIC? isn't that an obsolete programming language yet?

terdon

@Robusto Depends on how much of them you eat.

Robusto

she's trading her mg for a white chrysler lebaron

RegDwigнt

No, the sentence is not English. While we are at it: what is "plz"? What is "Ex"? Do we have to put the same amount of care into our answers? In that case: lol teh sentance isnt enlgish. kthxbai — RegDwigнt ♦ 47 secs ago

People writing plz are starting to piss me off big time.

Robusto

Trolling for upticks, yeah? All right, I give you that.

skill patrol

12:12 PM

you get "pissed" off too easily pal

RegDwigнt

"Please" means "please". "Plz" means the exact opposite of "please". It means "I have so little respect for you I won't even waste the split second that is needed to type six letters. You want me to say please, you go fuck yourself".

@skillpatrol no I am getting pissed off after twenty years of DERPnet.

That is not easily.

It takes skill and determination.

You as skill patrol should be able to see it.

Robusto

Welcome to Regulageddon!

RegDwigнt

I will Michael Bay you into Transformgendon.

Robusto

I only respond to Massachusetts Bay, his older brother.

skill patrol

lowering your expectations helps a lot

Robusto

12:14 PM

Also, why does the SC believe one has to use one's picture for a gravatar. Do they think this is just a branch of Facebook?

RegDwigнt

All the lights long went out in Massachusetts. Even before Detroit, in fact.

Robusto

You know that is untrue, yet you persist in spreading that vicious propaganda.

You can't buy Gillette Stadium for $500k and change.

skill patrol

team included? :-)

Robusto

Maybe you'll be able to buy whatever shithole the Raiders play in (@skillpatrol take note), but not the place our Patriots play and shit.

skill patrol

come to think of it, they're offering a course in sabermetrics on line at BU

RegDwigнt

12:18 PM

As a nod to latinos, no doubt.

Ud quiere saber, here's some metrics.

Also, what is BU? Bullshit University?

skill patrol

that's high tech baseball stats, Boston U

RegDwigнt

NOU

Boston boston Boston boston boston boston Boston boston.

Robusto

@RegDwigнt Boston University, sometimes referred to by the locals as B Jew. Hey, I'm just reporting the facts. Don't shoot the messenger.

RegDwigнt

Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Stadiums (HBO)

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Robusto

Don't you have the one about ladders?

RegDwigнt

12:21 PM

@Robusto I've not fired a shot. Still aiming.

Robusto

You're supposed to fire first, then aim. First rule of YouTube Comments.

RegDwigнt

Лол не пришей кобыле хвост

Jul 16 at 11:41, by RegDwigнt

And that's time for more Google Translate!

skill patrol

baseball teams are hiring more and more statisticians these days

Robusto

yesterday, by Robusto

Which reminds me of a French dude who, when he wanted to express not caring about something, would say, "I give a shit on it."

RegDwigнt

Hm. It does get the lol right.

Robusto

12:23 PM

I don't understand the part before "not sewn mare's tail"

RegDwigнt

That's the problem with getting things right.

Robusto

Oh oh oh . . . you mean LOL.

RegDwigнt

lol y u showt

Robusto

22 hours ago, by Robusto

РОФЛМАО

RegDwigнt

Reminds me of a brand of Soviet chocolates.

Robusto

12:25 PM

You mean vodka?

RegDwigнt

Rot Front Open Joint-Stock Company

Rot Front Open Joint-Stock Company (Открытое акционерное общество "Рот Фронт", ОАО "Рот Фронт") is one of the oldest Russian confectionery manufacturers and a member of Obyedinyonnye Konditery holding company. Rot Front produces over 200 types of confectionery and sells in all Russian regions, CIS countries, Western Europe, North America and the Middle East. The factory was established in 1826 and acquired its present name after the German Communist slogan Rot Front!, during the 1931 delegation visit headed by Ernst Thälmann. == References... ==

> and a member of Obyedinyonnye Konditery

Jesus fucking Christ, issue a warning before starting grinding your sentences through grinders.

A nice STOP READING HERE would be nice.

Robusto

Is that in ROT-13? Sure looks like it.

RegDwigнt

That must be it.

> and a member of Bolrqvalbaalr Xbaqvgrel

Robusto

And I'm weary from all the so-called "design" that's all about tweaking character shapes. That is so played.

RegDwigнt

Yeah, now that makes sense.

@Robusto hey those guys are from the actual friggin past. That logo is older than you.

Robusto

12:29 PM

No way.

But perhaps they use Rot because it will Rot your fucking teeth?

RegDwigнt

That's like blaming Star Wars for sucking. Sure it sucks. But it invented sucking. So you gotta give it some slack.

Robusto

Star Wars didn't invent sucking until they had tried not sucking and failed.

RegDwigнt

I didn't specify at which point or through which process Star Wars invented sucking. Such specifics are well beyond my point.

Robusto

That was a lagniappe. Enjoy.

No charge, this time.

RegDwigнt

@Robusto And that's the hardest part. Can't even get decent food — right after I got here, I ordered some spaghetti lagniappe, and I got egg noodles and ketchup.

Robusto

12:33 PM

So what would be the "real" Russian acronym that would correspond to ROFLMAO?

Just curious.

RegDwigнt

I'd say yours is alright?

I can't say I've ever seen it or paid attention to noticing.

Лолs are ubiquitous.

Jez

haha! the French actually have a term "peepee woman" that they use: fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dame_pipi

it's like a toddler's term that caught on

Robusto

Sung to the tune of Witchie Woman.

RegDwigнt

Welcome to the French language.

Tis full of such things.

Jez

is it?

RegDwigнt

12:34 PM

It is.

Jez

i've not really heard many toddler terms

Robusto

> I hate the fucking Eagles, man.

Jez

if anything French usually tried to come up with more euphemistic terms

like "toilette" itself

RegDwigнt

@Robusto Fuck you man. If you don't like my fuckin' music get your own fuckin' cab!

@Jez err. How is Madame pipi not euphemistic. Its whole point is that it is.

Robusto

@Jez Ceci n'est pas une pipi.

Jez

12:36 PM

erm

"toilette" is euphemistic

"peepee" is kind of directly referring to piss

RegDwigнt

In your crazy British English mind perhaps.

Everywhere else, "toilet" is in-your-face direct. Nobody would say "toilet" in polite society.

Robusto

Today's vocabulary word: dottle.

"Something went wrong!
The page has not loaded completely and some content and functionality are corrupted. Please reload the page or if you are running ad blocking disable it."

Yeah, I'll get right on that.

RegDwigнt

So that's how toddlers are different from dottlers.

terdon

@RegDwigнt Dude!

Robusto

First time I've seen a plea for me to stop using AdBlocker.

What chance do they really think they have?

I started using AdBlocker to, you know, block ads.

It wasn't a mistake on my part.

RegDwigнt

12:41 PM