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3:02 AM
@Mitch You just need a better tab-completion setup.
@Mitch You aren't special: EVERYBODY has trouble with git from time to time, including some of the smartest people I know.
 
 
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9:30 AM
Hello @MattE.Эллен. Next week is your birthday?
 
9:48 AM
yes! I hadn't realised it would be so soon
 
Hi everyone
 
10:08 AM
I just took a shower.
 
I am now thinking and talking to myself.
 
I do that all the time :D
 
10:25 AM
Maybe I will email you soon to talk about my problems.
 
@Mitch Have you thought of making aliases to commonly used command manifestations so that you don't have to remember or type out all that stuff? Haven't you ever used your .bash_profile for that yet? If you're in a Windows environment you can still be using CygWin to get your Bourne Again Shell, which I recommend.
 
Jez
10:53 AM
hmm
what's that phrase for books that are kind of comfortable to read?
I'm thinking of the phrase "easy reading" but it doesn't quite sound right
"I want some ..."?
 
comfortable reading, lol
 
@Jez Light reading?
 
Jez
ah yeah, sounds about right
then again, perhaps "easy reading" would be better. explaining DDD is never going to be anything "light"
 
@Jez Depends on what you mean by comfortable actually.
 
@Jez "Easy reading" carries the connotation of you being in need of some remedial program.
"Light reading" means you are capable of heavier things but don't feel like that right now.
 
Jez
10:58 AM
oh well, too late
i said "easy reading" lol
 
A rookie move.
 
Jez
besides im not sure i am capable of heavier stuff
> Applying commands/method invocations to an entity or aggregate root can be seen as an application of a function to a data structure where the result of the function application is an identical data structure with different data and/or version (especially version if optimistic concurrency is used).
that shit is unbearable
i have no idea how some programmers can work with that language
 
@RegDwigнt When will you change back to the owl or viscacha? I really miss those animals.
 
@tchrist that page explained absolutely everything I already knew, but not the thing I still don't know: whether, and if yes how, that comic is funny.
@ABeautifulMind when 8000 more people have voted for my hippo.
And since I know you haven't, you have no say. :P
 
@RegDwigнt Hmm, I guess that will never happen.
 
11:02 AM
There's your answer, then.
 
@RegDwigнt it is meant to be a joke, only you know if you find it funny
 
Jez
anyone know why that page says it's both 320 pages and 560 pages?
 
The kindle version is 560 pages. I don't know why the hardback is both
nothing said about the number of pages in the paperback edition
 
Jez
i was hoping 320 pages :-(
 
yeah. difficult to tell which number is accurate for the dead tree editions
noöne knows how many pages there are!
good reads has the hardback at 560 pages
 
Jez
11:22 AM
hang on, how did you get that pdf?
 
Jez
looks like a warezed version
 
I just googled the title
 
Jez
interesting. Programming Perl has 1184 pages!
i don't remember its being anything like that long
 
@Jez I think it's from a French college or university, or something
 
Jez
11:25 AM
i guess if i can get through that I can get through a book half the size... though I think I'll find DDD much more dry and tedious than learning Perl
 
possibly so
 
What is DDD?
 
Jez
you don't wanna know
 
I am typing a long email...
 
11:53 AM
OK @KitZ.Fox and @MattE.Эллен I just sent you both an email, thanks.
 
OK. I will read it later
 
I think I will sleep from 8 am to 4 pm instead. I feel better thinking in the night than in the day, at least for now.
 
12:17 PM
Hey!
 
12:32 PM
Hi.
 
12:43 PM
Dinner time.
 
crl
1:11 PM
Why do people say 'dash' when it's an 'hyphen'? easier to say maybe (listened a video where the guy says "let's name this file: nav dash bar dot js")
 
It's just easier.
More Anglo-Saxon. Less "educated"-sounding.
 
crl
ah ok
 
American men don't like using prissy language, as a rule. Some will even refer to women's undergarments (if they must) as "pants" instead of "panties."
The theory being that it is somehow unmanly to use refined, precise language.
 
I'd call it a dash if I'm speaking about computers/commands and hyphen in regular prose I think.
 
Well, yeah.
 
1:18 PM
@crl because they are indistinguishable! one's shorter, the other longer, but which label goes with which?
 
When I had the website relativity-inc.com I would speak that as "relativity dash inc dot com."
 
@Robusto unk!
 
You're safe.
 
gronk.
 
Duh.
 
1:19 PM
ontology recapitulates phylogeny. eschew obfuscation. Carthago delenda est
 
Did you mean recapitulates?
There's no point being precise if you can't be precise.
 
Yes. Yes I did mean that.
The longer the words the more redundancy there is.
autocorrect didn't catch it though.
 
crl
It's fun to see how far in meaning are 'capitulate' and 'recapitulate'
 
If you can’t precise, you can always abscise, circumcise, concise, decise, eclaircise, excise, exercise, incise, occise, subincise, or supercise.
@crl But not capitular.
 
@tchrist I like to eclaircise with coffee
 
crl
1:28 PM
@tchrist In Spanish you mean?
 
@crl Or English. It carries several meanings.
 
crl
Capitular
Relating to a cathedral chapter:
an eminently qualified capitular candidate
 
When I divide a book into chapters, I am capitulating it. :)
Because I should have done that a long time ago.
> capitular /kəˈpɪtjʊlə(r)/, a. and sb.
Etymology: ad. med.L. capitulār-is adj., capitulāre sb., f. capitulum in its various senses: see below.

A. adj.

1. Of or pertaining to an ecclesiastical chapter; governed by a chapter.

1611 Cotgr., ― Capitulaire, capitular; of, or belonging to, a chapter.
1651 Life Father Sarpi (1676) 36 ― That in a capitular action··should be sent forth two Apostolical Briefs.
1747 Carte Hist. Eng. I. 787 ― Seizing the temporalities of bishops and capitular bodies.
1861 A. B. Hope Eng. Cathedr. 19th C. 182 ― Some of the old cathedrals had been served by chapters o
Capitular has an interesting pitch in its middle.
 
@Jez It's philosophical language. Meaning it could be total bullshit, or it could be a very precise explanation for which you need to come to understand the new uses of this vague (to you) vocabulary.
 
@crl And not to be confuzzed for capitellate.
 
1:34 PM
@tchrist with a couple sticky wickets
 
hates wicky stickets
 
hates icky tickets
 
wiki-stick-it: the post-it note version of wikipedia
 
hates sicky twickets
 
just ate some crickets
 
1:41 PM
chases kitty wickets
 
Knock it off.
 
@Jez It just seems to me (on what little I know) in the same direction as OOP and aspect oriented programming, it gives a way of thinking about how to construct software. and if that eventually translates to how to modularize (something under your control) or how to put into a language to enforce it (usually not under your control) then great.
 
switches kitty cakes
 
wait, nick e. snickets!
 
Why do some people write their names as T Christ and others as Tom C?
When is one used over the other?
 
1:43 PM
tickets whacky sites
thwacks sickest yeti
skews ickiest chatty
 
plates sicky briquette
 
Any answers to my question above?
I have an answer, but I ain't sure if it's right.
 
I don't have one
 
sacks twitchiest key
 
I think Matt E is used when you want people to call you Matt, and M Ellen is used when you want them to call you Mr Ellen.
The single letter is there to distinguish between different Matts and different Ellens.
 
1:47 PM
tithes sickest wacky
 
I use M. Ellen when people ask for my first initial and my surname.
 
> Speak “friend” and enter.
 
if they'd have been trolls, they would have written
> Speak friend and enter
 
@Robusto "Renowned author Dan Brown gazed admiringly at the pulchritudinous brunette’s blonde tresses, flowing from her head like a stream but made from hair instead of water and without any fish in. "
 
There are no quotatative tehtar.
 
1:49 PM
Theta?
 
"friend" and "enter"
or "friend and enter"
 
I have no idea what the speak friend and enter thing is all about.
 
how to open the hidden door into Moria
 
@ABeautifulMind Read all of Tolkien.
Or watch the movie(s)
 
moooooviiiieeeees
 
1:51 PM
Pedo mellon a minno.
 
@MattE.Эллен watch out for the octopus thingy in the lake right behind you.
 
Literally: Say friend to enter.
 
I think Matt is calling you a troll
 
@Mitch You’re impossibilating again.
 
1:53 PM
well, you're ... you ... you capitellator.
 
Maria tells Mario: Enter. LOL
 
crl
There's a job offer really close to my flat, but requires ASP.NET knowledge, meh, I will learn a bit what it is, and ask them for an interview
 
@crl Desperation breeds attempts.
 
@crl I think you should not take this job.
@tchrist He's not exactly desperate.
 
@ABeautifulMind Cleopatra kept an asp net. Nuff said.
 
1:56 PM
@tchrist or the realizatoin that I can use type ahead (I'm too use to just arrowing back through the history)
but the possibilities that change... argh... too many! hm.. I'm starting to realize that maybe it's not me, it's that these are branches and repositories that other people are creating so I don't remember them as well.
@ABeautifulMind Exit pursued by a bear.
 
Into the mouth of darkness he drives.
 
Geezis.
 
@Robusto Yes, aliases (and borrowed from some already made for someone else). I'm complaining about luxuries is all.
 
Doom drove them on.    Darkness took them,
horse and horseman;    hoofbeats afar
sank into silence;     so the songs tell us.
 
I think the songs got it all wrong.
 
1:59 PM
I am going to take a nap.
 
He opts for the gentler brother.
 
@ABeautifulMind Remember to give one back later
 
crl
which means?
 
crl
2:05 PM
@crl "speak, friend, and enter"
 
14 mins ago, by tchrist
Pedo mellon a minno.
Actually, pedo means “say” not “speak”.
 
@tchrist Portuguese?
 
@terdon Fart.
 
Yes, in Spanish too. I thought it actually meant speak in another language.
 
Sindarin.
 
2:07 PM
Ah! :)
Speak friend and enter I presume?
 
Say say say
Gandalf got it wrong.
He loosely translated pedo to speak instead of to say.
 
You speak better Sindarin than Olórin?
 
@Mitch My favorite is when he refers to "renowned monarch the Queen."
 
@terdon Well, much that was clear to Olórin was hidden from Gandalf’s mind. But he himself admits it and figures it out.
 
@Robusto "The Mozart Acrostic"
 
2:10 PM
har
 
user136984
 
user136984
Sorry... Just had to share that!
 
@tchrist what's the difference in Sindarin?
 
Life in the Time of Snow. Off to commute.
 
SNOW HERE
BLIZZING
 
2:14 PM
@MattE.Эллен Do you want to see something beautiful?
 
@JohanLarsson yes
 
@Mitch In Sindarin it can mean both. There is a 1:2 mapping from Sindarin pedo to English say/speak. Gandalf simply chose the wrong branch initially.
I too must to work. May flights of balrogs sing thee to thy rest, Jasper.
 
That sounds...concerning.
 
@MattE.Эллен look here (helper for implementing IXmlSerializable) WIP.
How about that fluent?
 
very fluent :D
 
2:22 PM
 
not sure about the "valuen" stuff
I guess that part's in progress :D
 
crl
@JohanLarsson How hard is ASP.NET? I already know some C#
 
@tchrist An impression of M.?
 
Aye.
And his demons seven.
 
@MattE.Эллен have you struggled any with xml & immutable?
@crl I don't know any
 
2:30 PM
@JohanLarsson not that I can recall
in fact my todo list modifies an xml file and saves it back out
 
ok the you don't know the problem I'm trying to solve
 
Well, that's a commute that went nowhere. Like me.
 
Does it say seven anywhere?
What kind of vehicle did you (attempt to) board?
 
@JohanLarsson quite :D
 
@MattE.Эллен if it has vanilla get/set properties it is a breeze. If you have immutable things it can be painful.
 
2:31 PM
I was in my car. And I got half a mile from my house in only 20 minutes.
 
Oh, dear. Is it snow?
 
It took about half a minute to return home once I'd turned around.
 
@JohanLarsson it has strings
 
Traffic?
 
@Cerberus Snow and ugly commutingness.
 
Oh, yes, especially the commutingness is evil.
You can't commune by bike, how far is it?
 
I mean, it's really old code, so it doens't really show off what people can do these days
 
@MattE.Эллен public List<T>... ew. Good for serialization though.
 
@JohanLarsson ha! yeah. that ws before I learned about testing
 
@MattE.Эллен this will need XmlIgnore if you use XmlSerializer
 
2:36 PM
@JohanLarsson I use XDocument. I guess I hadn't though of other people using it :-s
 
@Cerberus Did you see the picture I posted? Bike commute is over until spring.
That's looking out me front door.
 
@MattE.Эллен ok I don't love the linq-to-sql api to be honest. Serialization is convenient once in place.
 
Snow? That's nothing. Where I'm at, all you see is the chimney.
 
@Robusto Impressive. How high?
@Mitch You see anything at all? Whimp.
 
:D
 
2:38 PM
We've gotten about 35cm since then.
 
I see only darkness from underneath the snow.
And the hail.
@Robusto But how high is the snow in your garden?
 
The tell is walking down a sidewalk, where the sides of the path plowed out come up to above your hips.
 
@Cerberus About 1.3m.
@Mitch Yeah, but you're in Canada. I'm talking about a normal country here.
 
@Mitch The tell?
@Robusto That's unbikable for sure.
And the roads have not been cleared (yet)?
 
There are two narrow lanes on residential streets and feeder roads. The problem is, you can't see around corners. So nobody knows if anyone is coming when they barrel onto the roadway. And that means collisions and slowdowns.
 
2:44 PM
Most unpleasant.
We had a few mm of snow last week.
It melted very fast, even at night.
 
snow almost settled on Plymouth at the weekend
 
But en province the snow remained, for a day or two.
 
@Cerberus 'what tells you', usually metaphorical for a clue that someone is bluffing in a card game.
 
Poor Plymouth!
 
indeed! It's not used to such harsh conditions
 
2:46 PM
@Mitch Ah, in that way.
 
Tells you how deep it really is.
 
I get it now.
 
yo leo una naranja
sweet sweet duolingo
 
@Robusto but I'm not! I'm having the same problems as you. the plows shovel up the snow right at the corners so that any shoveled walkways are covered over, so you end up walking in the street behind the towers of snow blocking everyone's view
 
@Mitch Which area are you in?
 
2:48 PM
@MattE.Эллен yo tengo one of them. what is 'leo'? to read?
@Robusto Boston
So nearby
 
Oh, you're in my neck of the woods then.
North, south or west?
 
west
 
Wow, we should have a beer sometime.
 
and I commute downtown
 
Train or car?
 
2:50 PM
bus or T
or rarely train
 
@Mitch yes
 
what did the orange have to say?
Hola?
 
Who's T?
 
La naranja llama me un tonto pendejo
 
T is the mass trans in the Boston area but usually refers to the subset that is the subway
 
2:51 PM
@Mitch Are you inside 128 or outside?
 
@MattE.Эллен conyo!
@Robusto inside
 
Must be inside if you can tolerate a bus commute.
Yeah.
 
sí. exactamente
 
Public transportation has been execrable since the snow started falling.
 
@Robusto as long as you get a seat, it's very pleasant no matter how many hours it is.
 
2:53 PM
Ahh OK.
 
crl
Bike on snow is quite fun
 
North or south of the Pike?
 
@Robusto As much as I like to complain that it is so third world, I can't blame them too much. It was a blizzard after all with record amounts of snow -both- times in such a short period of time.
 
@Robusto What happened to it?
 
@Cerberus Snowmageddon.
 
2:54 PM
@Robusto ooh...twenty questions! north of the pike
 
Snowpocalypse 2015.
 
@Mitch A few years ago, The Hague cancalled all trams because of maybe 10cm of snow.
Or maybe less.
 
@Cerberus Snowagnarok!
 
crl
So ASP is a bit like the PHP for .net
 
@Mitch Tell @Matt to send you my email and you can shoot me a message.
 
2:55 PM
@Robusto So they cancelled lines? It's slow?
 
Snowtastrophe!
It was snowtastic.
 
cringes
 
I can do it!
 
@Cerberus Slow? I would call it . . . wait for it . . . glacial.
 
Hah.
But okay.
 
2:57 PM
It was so slow getting in that you had to leave work a few minutes before you arrived.
 
The traffic is slow because the traffic is snow.
 
Snowporosis.
OK that one doesn't work so well.
 
snowtharsis
for the sky
 
Snowdown!
 

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