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Robusto

00:30

You might want to keep the snarkiness confined to comments, if you can't restrain yourself altogether. — Robusto 58 secs ago

crl

00:58

Are morphemes and syllables somewhat related?

tchrist

Only coincidentally.

Basically, no.

crl

ah, ok

was discovering the meaning of

Portmanteau

A portmanteau (/pɔrtˈmæntoʊ/, /ˌpɔrtmænˈtoʊ/; plural portmanteaus or portmanteaux /-ˈtoʊz/) or portmanteau word is a linguistic blend of words, in which parts of multiple words, or their phones (sounds), and their meanings are combined into a new word. Originally, the word "portmanteau" refers to a suitcase that opens into two equal sections. A portmanteau word fuses both the sounds and the meanings of its components, as in smog, coined by blending smoke and fog, or motel, from motor and hotel. In linguistics, a portmanteau is defined as a single morph which represents two or more morphemes. The...

tchrist

Funny word, that.

Especially to a Frenchman.

crl

I was confusing it with porte-manteau :)

yes totally

Mazura

01:34

Anyone care to check this answer to see if the kanji is displayed right? Kanji shows as a bunch of boxes on my screen.

Cerberus

Mazura

Sweet, I'll take that as a yes. Thanks @Cerberus

Cerberus

@Mazura Only you know whether that is a yes!

Mazura

Well, at all is good enough, I don't know either.

Cerberus

OK I have no idea what it's supposed to look like either.

But at least I have no blocks.

Mazura

01:49

Good to know that the text is preserved while copying, even if it isn't displayed right.

Cerberus

Perhaps you need to install a Kanji font?

I know installing more fonts fixed all my block issues.

Mazura

02:09

I looked into it before, my OS is unsupported. My good CPU is basically air-gaped. This one gets reinstalled frequently, with an automated install disk. 7 takes too long and I don't have an auto install disk for it (yet), nor exists all the drivers I'd need. 'sides, half the programs I run, won't on x64. If only all manufacturers took a page from Sony: backwards compatibility is of the utmost importance.

Cerberus

02:22

I agree.

Then what OS are you using?

Mazura

I'd prefer not to say, with all you CPU Xperts here ;p

Cerberus

03:18

@Mazura Umm what does that mean?

I am the opposite of a CPU expert.

I am on XP.

Mazura

They tell me it's vulnerable these days. Meh, I still like my XP. - SE is prob the last place you want to advertise running XP ;)

Robusto

Oh, he has been lampooned for his affinity to XP, to be sure.

Mazura

03:34

PSA: A $500 bounty for whoever decided to move the 'show desktop' button. It gets me every damn time...

Anonymous

06:00

@crl There are languages where morphemes tend to be one syllable each, and in those languages the two tend to correspond.

Anonymous

@Cerberus The Chinese characters look correct! :-)

crl

08:49

@snailboat ah thanks, I guess Spanish is a maybe one, it's kinda simple syllable-wise 'va-mos a la far-ma-cia con to-dos (< s is a morpheme?) los pa-que-tes'

Anonymous

It's been a long time since I studied Spanish and I don't really want to try to divide your example up into morphemes, but I think there are probably lots of morphemes boundaries in Spanish that cross syllable boundaries. How would you divide up habl-amos, for example?

Anonymous

I was thinking of Chinese languages when I made my comment, by the way.

HforHesham

13:22

Hi

skill patrol

13:33

hello

crl

13:47

ok snail ___^

oh I understand better now what's a morpheme, it's a 'root' of the word, already knew similar things like word stemming for full-text search in databases

skill patrol

how's the scraps?

from the bike fall

crl

ah that, getting better, scabs are slowly going away

skill patrol

good :-)

crl

my neighbour proposed me his old bike, he never used it, brand is 'Personal' @Robusto

the large crank is ... large, not sure I'll ever use it, to big even on flat road I guess

but first thing to do is to get new tyres (those one are dry and destoryed by time), I suck at this, he explained me those are 'full' tyres (tyre+air chamber) and you have to somewhat put glue on it, wait, then stick it to the wheel, then inflate and wish it works :)

Robusto

I don't have any experience with that brand, but from looking at it I'd say it's fairly old. Steel frame, 10- or 12-speed (not sure because photo is blurry). Probably goes around 10 kilos? No index shifting (shift levers on down tubes, which is good).

@crl Yeah, that's an older style. Was going to mention that as well.

Looks like a bike from the '80s, all in all. How much does he want for it?

crl

14:02

I don't mind the old style, with speed-switch on the frame, fun!

@Robusto not much ~70€ and it cost an arm back at that time

@Robusto no it's amazingly light, probably 8kg

yea only 2 * 5 speeds !

Robusto

Is it Reynolds steel throughout?

Double-butted tubes, forks and stays?

That's a lot like my old Trek from 1981.

crl

given than one crank is too large, I'm left with 5, but I'll try and see, I'm not using speeds a lot anyway

Robusto

Well, I used the Trek for a long time after moving out here, and I have to say it sucks on hills. You can probably get a decent crank set with a lower high. And probably put a 7-gear cassette on the back.

crl

those are tubeless tyres too (called 'boyaux' in French)? you have that too?

Robusto

No, I opted for normal tubed tires because I needed a heavy-duty wheel on back due to all the potholes in Chicago when I was there.

The main question is, does the bike fit your body?

Did you ride it at all?

crl

14:08

ever put tubeless tyres yourself?

not yet

Robusto

@crl I did back in the day. Got real tired of that.

crl

@Robusto yes same size as my current bike, so perfect

Robusto

Then it's not a problem. The price is right if you want to take on the project of fixing it up.

crl

tubeless are 17€ each decathlon.fr/boyau-rally-noir-700x23-id_8328782.html, I won't want to burst the tyres then..

Robusto

Especially if it has Reynolds 531 chrome-moly tubing it would be a steal.

You'll really need to replace the crank to make it useful in your area, I'd expect. And the rear cassette, which may even need replacing at this point due to age.

crl

14:12

yeah

Robusto

That's where the expense is in this project.

crl

ok, tyres + cassette

is it possible to put normal tyres like yours?

without having to change the whole wheel

Robusto

No.

Gotta change the wheel.

crl

ok, btw did this 20 times this morning, knees are not especially hurting

Robusto

That's probably $150 for each wheel.

If you're handy and you want to invest in some equipment you could learn to build your own wheels cheaper.

Every cyclist should have a truing stand, btw. Word to the wise.

crl

14:15

cough 136€, well normal

Robusto

Well, you're still under €500 for the whole bike once you're all in.

crl

yea, it's ok if he's comfortable (<500€ is what I targeted anyway with this kind of bike decathlon.fr/btwin-velo-route-triban-520-fb-id_8322799.html)

Robusto

Me, I would want to put indexed shifters on it as well, and all that. All told I am personally probably going to spend about $1000 fixing up my old Trek once we move.

crl

hehe, I wouldn't need it, I really don't change too much speeds, I just pray for never 'bursting'/deflating the tyres (which is the word for 'crever un pneu'?)

skill patrol

do you guys do any strength training for biking?

crl

14:26

biking does strenghten, more or less, but I don't want muscles :)

skill patrol

it will help you go faster, no?

crl

I don't really aim at going fast, just going at my pace uphill, that's all what I love

Robusto

@skillpatrol Not necessarily. You don't want to build bulk, because cycling is all about the strength-to-weight ratio.

I'm at a disadvantage already because I'm tall with a muscular build. The Tour cyclists are usually smaller and with slender builds.

skill patrol

true

crl

how tall? (I'm 6' / 1.84m)

Robusto

14:34

I think you mean 6' . . . :-)

6" is six inches.

crl

Americans.. with their units :)

6' is 6 minutes here :)

skill patrol

french.. with their tour :D

Robusto

@crl I'm a little taller than you, but I weigh around 85 kilos (190 lbs).

Pro cyclists are usually 65-75 kilos.

crl

hehe, you've a normal weight though, I'm a bit naturally skinny (thin bones)

Robusto

That will help you.

It's all about not dragging extra weight up the hills.

skill patrol

14:38

I guess the hills are a built-in strength trainer

Robusto

Can be.

You never want to bulk up like a weight lifter. I could probably beat most weight lifters going uphill on a bike, even though they're much stronger in the legs than I am, because they usually weigh > 25% more than I do. They would tire more quickly because their muscles are built for short, intense bursts of energy, not long endurance tests.

@crl That too. Just think of it like this: minutes/feet, seconds/inches.

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skill patrol

I was in favour of stripping Armstrong of his "accomplishments" in the Tour.

His life story is amazing.

Robusto

@crl: How do the French view the Tour during the Armstrong years? Some here have said all the Tour wins from 1990 to 2010 should be vacated because of the rampant doping and other violations. It's felt that everyone was doing it.

crl

@Robusto many persons feel 'abused' like someone who would have lied, but personally I don't care, bike is bike with dope or not, slightly easier with dope, but well

reddit.com/r/cycling/comments/3r2yvg/… < what does it mean with "however I would bet you have standard clincher tires on that bike."?

I'd really have let Armstrong his victories, the second, third were certainly doped too

skill patrol

14:50

really?

crl

but, right, his victories are not like Indurain's victories (less doped I imagine)

Indurain has/had a resting heart-rate of 28 bpm!

skill patrol

:O

crl

that's not too good though, when you get older, you may need a device to help your heart to continue to beat

skill patrol

amazing!

Robusto

@crl Clincher tires are the tubed kind with tires that fit into the rim, as opposed to the ones like on your neighbor's bike.

@crl Damn, that is slow. Mine is like ~45-55 and I thought that was low.

crl

14:53

@Robusto I just looked the tires again, they are like a torus, with a part for sticking on the wheel, and a part for the road

Robusto

My friend who is even more of a cyclist than I am has a rate around 40 bpm.

@crl Yeah, you have to glue them to the rims.

They're slightly lighter than the clincher tires, IIRC.

crl

Parece que mi corazon esta hoy un poco perezoso💓 Today my heart is a little bit lazy💓 http://t.co/La7NwIyYwH

Tweeted by albertocontador on January 15, 2015 at 12:45 PM

@Robusto same-ish

skill patrol

In Armstrong's book he describes how he blew the cardio breath test meter off the scale!

Robusto

I'm sure he did.

@crl I would translate that as "It seems [feels] like my heart is a little lazy today."

crl