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12:00 AM
to find out who you are, you must first find out who you are not
 
Pure class.
 
@JohanLarsson don't you think it is helpful to "know thyself"?
 
@Robusto {Sinatra, Bennet}OrderBy(x => x.Awesomeness);
@skullpatrol sure
 
to be yourself is to know yourself
agree?
 
@JohanLarsson Now I want to play some of those tunes on my piano. But it has a broken key and I'm too lazy to take it apart and replace the hammer. sigh
 
12:03 AM
ok I think more like if someone is nervous/shy and gets the advice 'just be yourself'
 
You'd think there'd be one key on the piano that I never touch, but it ain't true. If one breaks, that is the one the thing I want to play desperately needs.
 
@JohanLarsson they mean "forget about other's opinions"
 
yeah, still easier said than done prolly
 
yep, talk is cheap
 
12:07 AM
Speaking of Chess.
@JohanLarsson Not bad. Kinda laid back. Is that a Swedish thing?
 
laid back?
 
!!urban laid back
 
@Robusto laid back Repressive, apathetic, does not care enough, brain dead, has no pulse, unlively, passive or passive aggressive, not caring enough, slow paced, follower mind set, compatable, middle american, lack of passion, lack of drive, bland, boring, white bread american.
 
Well, that's way more derogatory than the term means.
 
that's true of most of urban's defs
 
12:10 AM
"laid back" means restrained, not over-excited, kinda passive, etc. It doesn't mean apathetic or boring.
 
@Robusto yeah, Yeah, YEAH! Birth of punk right here?
 
It's usually more positive.
And "middle American"??
 
@Robusto I knew what it menat just wasn't sure if that was the Swedish thing
 
Zwaar = heavy
Matig = moderate
Licht = light
Rain.
How can we have rain that is 10x as heavy as "heavy rain"?
 
raining heavy water?
 
12:12 AM
Sounds lovely.
 
@JohanLarsson I just meant his delivery seems fairly polished and — what's the term I'm looking for here? — guess the French say it best: soigné
@Cerberus If it's raining deuterium.
Kinda jinx.
 
jinx + link, pal
 
Very jinx.
 
@skullpatrol Nobody has time to read all of your shit.
 
12:15 AM
heavy jinx
 
I know heavy water.
 
@Robusto he has skill and confidence in it, not sure that is his best recording, just random google hit
 
@JohanLarsson See, the genius of a Sinatra or a Bennett is making very polished stylings seem spontaneous and free, like they just thought of them.
 
@skullpatrol What else would you call it?
I'm not your pal.
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@JohanLarsson What I'm trying to do is place him in the context of Tony Bennett. I think your guy sounds more like an opera singer.
More like this than Bennett.
Speaking of which, Wunderlich had a set of pipes, didn't he?
 
@Robusto ok true, did not find much on youtube, he does all kinds of stuff
 
Jul 24 '13 at 19:04, by Robusto
When I hear the great singers, I am ashamed to even sing in the shower. But I do it anyway. I can pretend for a few seconds that I am Fritz Wunderlich.
 
@Robusto yes very similar, nice
 
@JohanLarsson Then you shall have another treat:
 
12:28 AM
vibrato is tricky, can easily turn crap, same with waling
 
@Robusto never listened much to Wagner, gotta change that
 
Bugs in mathematics... interesting. Also interesting: I didn't know I was suspended 'til you pinged me and I couldn't answer! Anyway, that was fun to learn.
 
@Robusto - seriously, do you think I would have been suspended if I were a moderator? Duh.
 
12:31 AM
@JohanLarsson The Wagnerites.
 
@medica Hi :D
 
Hi! long time no see ;-)
 
Yip, yip, yip
 
:-)
 
12:35 AM
Feb 18 '11 at 19:18, by Robusto
Yeah, I wouldn't know. Some humorless toad got me banned.
 
1 hour ago, by Robusto
Let's not get carried away.
 
@skullpatrol Funny! I actually saw that with my kids when it was first shown (well, some version of it); yip yip yip yip yip.
 
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Feb 7 at 15:38, by RegDwight
In the foundations of mathematics, Russell's paradox (also known as Russell's antinomy), discovered by Bertrand Russell in 1901, showed that the naive set theory created by Georg Cantor leads to a contradiction. The same paradox had been discovered a year before by Ernst Zermelo but he did not publish the idea, which remained known only to Hilbert, Husserl and other members of the University of Göttingen. Let R be the set of all sets that are not members of themselves. If R qualifies as a member of itself, it would contradict its own definition as a set containing sets that are not member...
 
21 mins ago, by Robusto
I'm not your pal.
 
12:40 AM
Still chafing about that, are we?
 
Top of ta world Ma.
 
Ta.
 
This is the same Russell as Russell's teapot, no?
 
Hello.
Wow, this is the heaviest rain ever. It is literally better than some hotel showers.
 
Hi, Cerb.
 
12:44 AM
@medica yes
 
There's an atheist comic strip called Russell's teapot. Good name!
 
Hi.
 
I find his writing brutally hard to understand :(
Too concise.
 
@Cerberus I've often wondered why I hate to get wet in the rain...
Russell's?
 
yep
 
12:48 AM
best in smaller doses, perhaps.
 
nobody speaks like that
outside of the ivory tower
 
lol, philosophers... No one talks like Kierkegaard either.
 
same with Kant
 
Hobbes
 
@medica Because being wet for a long time sucks, especially when it's cold?
When you get wet in the rain, your clothes get wet, so you stay wet until you remove your clothes.
 
12:51 AM
But I would gladly jump into a lake with all my clothes on, and be happy.
 
Even if you had no time to change between the lake and a full work day?
 
It's something about the involuntariness (lol, you're right!)
How do I post a comic strip?
 
@medica just use the "upload..." button
 
Right, because it is unplanned, it is involuntary, and most probably inconvenient.
 
I don't see an upload... a bunch of other possibilities, but not upload...
 
12:58 AM
beside the "send" --------------------------------------------------------------------------------->
 
Thanks! Took me a while!
 
use the "from the web" option
 
is that browser dependent? I don't see those options. Is that a choice here?
 
Haha.
That's what it feels like sometimes.
 
I miss Calvin and Hobbes...
I know, it hurts!
 
1:00 AM
Insert an image

from my computerfrom the web


paste the URL of your image above
 
You have no idea how incompetent I am at this stuff! I ended up clicking until I saw jpeg in the URL and copied that.
ooh, pretty!
This is like magic to me...
 
that's it, keep trying
 
ik, boring, right?
 
nah, it's fun to learn
 
old dogs and that
 
1:05 AM
@medica try again
you did it before
remember?
 
nice
 
So complicated! O_o
:-)
 
that's a big part of the fun!
getting there
 
s l o w l y...
 
1:09 AM
speed kills
 
Maybe if I was younger it realluy would be easier
haha, true
 
@medica hey
wow one sip of beer and already it slawz my typzig
 
Hi! long time no see
slawz my typzig... that was such a good line
so was the win line.
 
now we have new lines, daily
 
I just saw that
 
1:18 AM
So how are things?
 
Good, thanks, and you?
 
busy
for example, I'm working right now
 
work? family?
ah
have any exciting weather post Arthur?
 
for a moment I thought you were calling me Arthur. No, our weather's been fine.
 
we had a couple of small tornadoes here. Scarey. New York got it worse than we did, tho
haha
yeah, wasn't much of a memorable hurricaine
 
1:20 AM
I'm in Toronto, we're pretty far inland, so those storms rarely affect us much.
 
wow, you are very much inland
 
We did have a lot of rain the other day, it flooded a highway. I suppose that might be related.
 
what is your work?
 
I'm a developer for a website
we are in the middle of redesigning the entire site, modernizing it's UI (parts of which date back to 2004, no joke)
 
gosh!
I'm surprised parts of it are so old
 
1:24 AM
Yeah, I'm not even exaggerating. It's had some paint jobs and such, some parts have been modernized here and there, but yeah, a lot of it is old.
 
so many programmers here... I know nothing about it. I took a fortran course once and shied away from it ever since
it was a nightmare
 
Yeah fortran is not a good language to start with
Fortran was made for mathematicians to write formulas and stuff.
 
I didn't know there were others. This was a long time ago, but it did scare me off.
No wonder.
I am bad at math
my worst subject
Are you working from home?
 
Well, if you were learning it in, say, the early 70s, fortran would have been a popular choice for courses. But by the 80s there were other languages better suited for getting stuff done, or for learning.
yeah I work from home every day
 
cool!
 
1:27 AM
It's great except for the weight-gain.
 
I can imagine...
 
cuz the fridge is so full and so close.
 
there's nothing in the house right now and it's just about killing me
At work, it's often so busy that I don't eat anything for 13 hours.
it's good for my weight
that and the fact that I have to walk all day long.
 
yeah. Do you typically work in the ER, or somewhere else?
 
Once in a great while, I'll work in a Family Practice office or a clinic. But mostly it's the ER.
For a year I had a free clinic, that was fun.
 
1:32 AM
I don't think I could take the stress of being in the ER full time.
 
I don't think it's that stressful
 
don't you have to deal with, well, a lot of emergencies?
 
mostly you see the same things over and over
yes, there are a lot of emergencies, but, well, when you do it all day , they are easy to do.
it's just once in a while, something you don't see very often will come in, and then it's scary.
Strange poisonings. or inhalation burns, or other dramatic stuff
but usually it's just the same old stuff.
 
ugh, inhalation burns. I never considered that that might be a thing.
How do you even treat that
 
yes, and ugh is the right response
you need to intubate mostly, as soon as possible
so you have to do a rapid-sequence intubation, which is not fun
 
1:38 AM
I wonder how my life would be different if I had become a doctor.
 
I wonder, too, how my life would be different :-)
It's pretty demanding
but I imagine a lot of things are
did you ever think about doing medicine?
 
not seriously, I liked computers too much for it to be a question. But I think I have the aptitude to be a doctor, if only I had wanted it more.
I guess that's true of a lot of career paths I left behind
I wanted this more than those.
 
yep.
is it hard to get into med school in Canada?
 
Probably hard enough. I think you have to do 3 years of BSc, then you have to take an entrance exam.
 
That's one year less science than in the US. I don't think the process of getting accepted into med school in the US chooses for the best-aptitudes to be doctors... just the ones who want it most.
The ones willing to do horrible things, like PChem, and Physics, and things you'll never ever use again
 
Wow, that's nice
 
Physics is so important to learn though. Even if you don't become a physicist. SO MANY PEOPLE lack basic physics knowledge like torque and levers and newton's laws of motion.
 
But how often do we actually use it?
Levers, yes, and motion is important, too... but I've never designed a pulley system or anything
but I could see it's importance in orthopedics, or rehab medicine, so it's useful I guess.
 
@medica It's fundamental knowledge.
 
"at least 3 years of study towards a Canadian university bachelor's degree in any discipline " This is very nice.
 
1:49 AM
@medica nice how?
 
more rounded individuals... some social sciences majors, other.
 
in practice it tends to be science majors
 
less concentration on weeding people out/competition
 
how does it work in the US?
 
Mostly people take a "Pre-med" program, very very science heavy, math, chemistry
Organic Chem, Physical Chemistry
 
1:52 AM
less more concentration on weeding people out/competition :-)
 
yes, that's the US model
And it was so cut-throat when I was in college
 
well, in practice the weeding still happens, it's just that it's done using the MCAT and other test scores
 
people cheating for grades, etc.
 
Darwin's survival of the richest
 
craftiest
lol, I did great on the MCATs except for math
(they were different then)
I got high 90th %iles in everything except math
I got a 29th %ile in math
 
1:55 AM
ouch
 
the rich are crafty, yes?
 
so on my interviews, they asked me what happened
and I lied
 
@medica "and I said, I can't count the number of times people have asked me that"
 
instead of saying I was bad at math, I said I must have messed up on the test (lol)
so they told me to take it again, and I got a 14!
 
@medica wait, worse?
 
1:57 AM
14th %ile?
 
lol, yes!
 
there was no lying my way outta that one!
but I had the rest, and the grades, and I had a PhD, so they knew I could do Med School
 
so what did you tell them?
 
1:58 AM
the PhD was much harder
well, then I had to tell them I was bad at math!
 
it's actually pretty funny
I was lying, and I got caught!
 
@medica How did you survive? (or did you have a salary paid by somebody?)
 
Med School?
 

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