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12:05 AM
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12:06 AM
!!meme this is an outrage
 
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Sorry, I don't know that one.
 
!!meme outrage
oh god oh god I broke the bot
!!norris
 
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 No one has ever pair-programmed with Chuck Norris and lived to tell about it.
 
         wow
very norris
 
12:10 AM
!!welcome Theodore Broda
 
@TheodoreBroda Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
Howdy.
Goodbowdy.
 
Evening.
 
12:17 AM
Good evening, Mr. Valedictorian.
 
How's the Chemex treating you?
 
Great! Do you have some proper filters?
Oh, and what coffee are you using?
 
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Chemex?
Oh, for coffee. D'oh!
 
12:21 AM
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Oh well, I'm sure it's working fine :)
 
@Mahnax some locally-roasted Yirgacheffe right now.
 
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Yummy. Me too. In fact, I roasted it myself. On the deck.
 
How do I get into the Javascript room chat?
 
You're in it.
Well, a Javascript-assisted chat.
Unless you want that programming room.
@Mahnax :o
 
Aye.
 
12:22 AM
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Roasting is really fun.
 
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Popcorn popper!
 
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Yeah, it works great for small batches. About half a cup of green beans at a time.
Slow going, but worth it.
 
12:25 AM
Hey, you three got welcomed to JS chat and I didn't. pouts
 
Said I had to be logged in or something.
OIC
 
Aw. Welcome to JS Chat, @Robusto. Please read the rules and don't bother anyone.
 
!!welcome Robusto
 
@Robusto Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
I am in.
 
c c
12:28 AM
!!xkcd new
 
Makes a damn good espresso.
 
Yeah, I'm excited. Nice to have free time to roast again.
 
I smell calzones.
 
12:35 AM
What differentiates a calzone smell from a pizza smell?
 
More crust?
 
Perhaps. I've never actually had a calzone.
 
Wut?
 
Hm?
 
How you never had a calzone?
 
12:38 AM
It's easy, I have simply never eaten one. In all seriousness, though, I dunno. We don't eat out much.
 
You don't have to go out. Sometimes, if you wish hard enough, calzones will come to you.
 
It just hasn't happened, I guess. shrug
 
c c
@Robusto the only accepted usage of commas without space is for numbers? 1,000,000
 
Or gibberish.
 
c c
12:41 AM
:))
Or if you have a comma in your name
 
@cc In many places in Europe, a comma is used for decimals. For example, a sandwich might cost € 3,99.
 
c c
@Mahnax yes as an european I know this, and it sucks
really sucks, I prefer 3.99
also beause the numpad has a dot, and no comma
 
@Mahnax That is still a number; robusto is still right about commas without spaces only appearing in numbers.
 
@TheodoreBroda I never said he wasn't, just providing another example.
 
@Robusto That is 2x right.
 
c c
12:46 AM
!!define gibberish
 
@cc gibberish speech or writing that is unintelligible, incoherent or meaningless
 
And hello, room.
 
Hello, doggy.
 
Hello, doggy.
 
Jinx.
 
c c
12:47 AM
!!tell Cer echo hello
 
@cc Command echo does not exist.
 
woof
 
!!tell Cerberus norris
 
@Cerberus Simply by pulling on both ends, Chuck Norris can stretch diamonds back into coal.
 
Umm.
 
c c
12:48 AM
!!wiki diamond
 
In mineralogy, diamond (from the ancient Greek αδάμας – adámas "unbreakable") is a metastable allotrope of carbon, where the carbon atoms are arranged in a variation of the face-centered cubic crystal structure called a diamond lattice. Diamond is less stable than graphite, but the conversion rate from diamond to graphite is negligible at standard conditions. Diamond is renowned as a material with superlative physical qualities, most of which originate from the strong covalent bonding between its atoms. In particular, diamond has the highest hardness and thermal conductivity of any bul...
 
!!jinx
 
@Robusto Were you trying to invoke me? Use the !!/help command to learn more.
 
!!coke
 
c c
ah crystal structure.. reminds me school
 
12:50 AM
Good ol' allotropes of carbon.
 
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Crystallography is the science that examines the arrangement of atoms in solids (see crystal structure). The word "crystallography" derives from the Greek words crystallon "cold drop, frozen drop," with its meaning extending to all solids with some degree of transparency, and grapho "I write." In July 2012, the United Nations recognised the importance of the science of crystallography by proclaiming that 2014 would be the International Year of Crystallography. X-ray crystallography is used to determine the structure of large biomolecules such as proteins. Before the development of X-...
 
Diamond, graphite, fullerene.
 
@Mahnax Don't forget plain old amorphous carbon.
 
buckminsterfullerene.
 
Einsteinium.
What?
 
1:01 AM
3 mins ago, by Robusto
buckminsterfullerene.
!!wiki buckminsterfullerene
 
There's also lonsdaleite (or hexagonal diamond), formed on meteorites during the heat of atmospheric re-entry
 
| Section2 = | Section3 = | Section7 = }} Buckminsterfullerene (or bucky-ball) is a spherical fullerene molecule with the formula C60. It has a cage-like fused-ring structure (truncated icosahedron) which resembles a soccer ball, made of twenty hexagons and twelve pentagons, with a carbon atom at each vertex of each polygon and a bond along each polygon edge. It was first generated in 1985 by Harold Kroto, James R. Heath, Sean O'Brien, Robert Curl, and Richard Smalley at Rice University. Kroto, Curl and Smalley were awarded the 1996 Nobel Prize in Chemistry for their roles in the d...
 
And let's not forget carbon nanotubes.
 
Etymology fact: Buckminsterfullerene is named after Buckminster Fuller
 
It's raining, how pleasant.
 
1:09 AM
@TheodoreBroda Ya think?
 
@Robusto Another etymology fact: Einsteinium is named after Albert Einstein (even though it's not called Alberteinsteinium).
 
gapes in awe
 
I think I just about fainted. I'm not sure I can take any more of these etymology facts.
 
A disputed etymology fact: Ruthenium is named after the Baby Ruth candy bar.
@Mahnax If I almost made you faint, perhaps this EL&U question is of interest to you.
 
Ah, so that was just a feint after all.
 
1:21 AM
@TheodoreBroda Don't worry, I'm still quite conscious.
 
@tchrist I don't have the faintest idea what you're talking about.
 
Hello again.
@tchrist Someone was asking for someone who spoke Spanish earlier.
 
@Cerberus The Romans.
Presuming you mean, earlier than now.
 
Earlier than now is rather broad.
 
It was all the rage at the time; just ask Seneca.
 
1:27 AM
And the Romans did not speak Spanish.
 
Well.
 
Least of all those in Dacia.
 
That’s one way to look at it.
 
There is only One Way and it is Mine.
 
@Cerberus Deist.
 
1:28 AM
Yes, my Lord. Hosannah.
 
@Cerberus But the residents of Hispania spoke their own dialect of Vulgar Latin, which eventually became Spanish
 
@Robusto I'm an autotheist.
@TheodoreBroda Yes, but that doesn't mean it was Spanish already!
 
all I wanna do when I wake up in the morning is see your eyes / hosannah, hosannah
 
> (NB: If a fellow user of EL&U interprets my brusque comments or answers as hostile or arrogant, then they are probably correct )
I see a mark of punctuation is missing...
 
@Cerberus You're an a uto theist.
 
1:33 AM
Uto?
I'm just your humble neighbourhood autotheist.
 
@Cerberus I would assume you believed in the Ancient Greek pantheon; you are, after all, a mythical three-headed hell-hound of Hellenic origin.
 
@Cerberus No. An atheist is an autotheist with the uto removed.
Can't type that into chat just as I would like.
 
Don’t worry, we won’t flag you.
 
1:37 AM
OIC
 
@TheodoreBroda Naturally!
 
@Robusto Why not, O au̶t̶o̶theist?
 
@tchrist Cheater!
 
@Robusto Ah. Well, I do not subscribe to such blasphemous quackeries as this "atheism".
 
@Cerberus Right. You're a pantheist.
 
1:41 AM
@Robusto You call it cheating, others magic, and some there are who call it artifice, thought not without recalling the grey one’s advice that “Perilous to us all are the devices of an art deeper than we possess ourselves.”
 
@Robusto I would not go so far.
 
@tchrist I have other qualities unrelated to typography.
 
What is cheating for you is licit for me.
There’s a Spanish quote about that, I believe.
> Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi.
 
Who you calling a cow?
 
mu
 
1:44 AM
nu?
 
Something peculative.
pecu == bovi
 
@tchrist Quoting the "grey one"? Your belief in witchcraft indicates heathenism.
 
Careful. @tchrist will show you a "grey one" (or any numeral, in any color) just because he can.
 
As the word reveals, the journey of how the Spanish shepherds abiding by their flocks at night went from considering first their kine as units of currency, then to argentum for the same, and then back again to the kine (with the Navarrese and Rioplantenses notwithstanding) is one so interesting that thereby hangs a tail.
 
Someone's been drinking.
There we go.
 
1:55 AM
It’s completely clear. I think it might be water.
 
It just might.
 
I’ll never get it right.
There’s rioplatenses.
Where plata abides.
And the kine are no longer so peculative upon the pampas.
As for the King of Navarre, he never went off the argent standard.
I must be drunk.
To the lees.
 
@tchrist I lost you at "rioplatenses"
 
@TheodoreBroda Call him then a Dream, as was his name in his youth in the West that is forgotten.
@TheodoreBroda Unsurprising.
@Rob As I had attempted to convey and as you yourself discovered, the book is one more suited to scholars than to videomaniacs, who would doubtless be bored to an early and unexamined grave.
 
You're referring to the Tolkien Beowulf, I expect.
I like it a lot for the breadth of his scholarship as well as the exhaustive and engaging delivery of it.
 
2:08 AM
@Robusto I believe it stands the immediately previous literary antecedent in our rubato thread.
 
@tchrist It does, but with a long coesura between my comments and your reply.
 
But not a fermata: that book is not yet closed.
 
It is not.
 
What is longa to you is but brevis to me, for our reference frames are out of sync, and one moves at a different velocity than the other.
 
Relativistic frame dragging?
 
2:15 AM
Not in this case: I was thinking more of Special Relativity rather than of General Relativity. And I am not a rotational reference frame of great mass with respect to yourself.
 
I don't trust any of this newfangled "relativity". I still prefer the concept of luminiferous aether
 
@Mahnax I cannot tell how happy I am for you. And while there are also tears that come of saying goodbye, as Dream once reminded us, I will not say: do not weep; for not all tears are an evil.
The candle burns twice as fast that burns at both ends.
Which is for both of you.
All shall be lost, even the ships afire off the shoulder of Orion and the glittermice in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate.
 
@tchrist - oh, good, you're here! There's something I've been wanting to ask you. How do you write Yep in a comment box, circumventing the minimum, that is.
 
Magic.
 
not wondering how you actually type...
ohh, please?
 
2:25 AM
I just told you.
 
I hate having the minimum.
 
44 mins ago, by tchrist
@Robusto You call it cheating, others magic, and some there are who call it artifice, thought not without recalling the grey one’s advice that “Perilous to us all are the devices of an art deeper than we possess ourselves.”
To Rob it is cheating, to you magic, and to me artifice.
Let’s please not go off tilting at kine again now.
 
@tchrist well, that certainly applies to me, no programmer by any stretch of the imagination. It is but a small spell...
 
How long do you wish to live?
 
lol
um... I'll trade an hour for the secret.
 
2:28 AM
You see, I could tell you, but then I fear that the Gods would have to kill you.
You have the means of unravelling the spell all by yourself, but you know it not.
 
@tchrist ah, ok. you are a wizard who can handle such spells, and I am nothing.
Hmm, now I'm intrigued
I tried commenting, then editing
but no luck
 
I will give you a kine clue: boustrophedonic.
 
I will take it, thank you. With appreciation! :)
 
@medica medica -> mad ice
 
Now I just need to tease it out, which I can do...
@Robusto no, no. female physician, Latin
:)
 
2:32 AM
no, no. anagram, English.
 
Whooshity doodah whooshity ay.
 
Ah!
lol
 
That’s not agram, nor even abram.
 
I'll work on your name. :) It should prove amusing.
@tchrist Thanks again. Bye to all who remain.
 
It will be more valuable to you if you have worked for it yourself. Gifts freely given too oft discarded are.
 
2:35 AM
(I read that as gifs... too much internet surfing!)
 
Try a book.
I have many suggestions.
 
@tchrist Haha! finished the Odessey and started on an oldie, A Separate Peace, to see what I missed as a young woman.
But give me one, I like your taste in literature.
please.
 
What work could possibly be called an oldie standing beside the Odyssey?
 
lol, true, true
 
Only Gilgamesh.
 
2:37 AM
I loved Gilgamesh.
It started me on a great quest.
I started to question the Bible.
 
You find a deluge story in that poem, just like Noah in the bible.
 
@Robusto Precisely!!
 
@medica So did Enkidu, for all the good it did either of them, and all the blessing.
 
Almost to a t
just a couple of black birds different...
 
I see that I am become Delphic tonight.
 
2:39 AM
@Robusto It started me on ANE literature...
 
ANE?
 
Ancient Near Eastern
 
Ah, OK.
BTW, there are deluge stories from many other countries all over the world.
 
I know. It's a great question to ponder.
 
Because floods happen is many other places in the world.
And are long remembered.
 
2:41 AM
There are also genesis stories in most cultures
 
That is all, nothingmore quoth the Raven.
 
some very bizarre...
 
Could have had something to do with the sudden thaw at the end of the last Ice Age.
 
but no more so than in Genesis, I guess.
@tchrist So, no book recommendation?
 
@medica And eschatology stories in most cultures as well, for what alpha stands unpaired with its omega?
 
2:42 AM
I'm so scared of Russia...
 
(If not, I'll go to Tolkein's Beowulf)
@Cerberus Why?
 
Irony!
 
@medica Lately I’ve been recommending Wolfe’s Solar Cycle. There is no greater work of science fiction in the last century than his Book of the New Sun.
 
@Cerberus Ah, please don't tell me it's global warming... I fear it is.
 
If you would call it science fiction. Locus didn’t, but the oeuvre was not yet complete at the time of the first awards, and they like many were tricked into thinking it fantasy.
 
2:45 AM
@tchrist Better than the Foundation Trilogy?
 
@medica Immeasurably so.
 
@tchrist Cool! Then it will be Wolfe’s Solar Cycle! That's exciting!
Thank you!
 
You may weep.
Twice in the last book alone, if you have a heart.
 
I do that allthe time
 
But they are tears of joy.
I mean that utterly literally.
 
2:47 AM
Sounds wonderful.
 
Even upon rereading, my eyes are moved to tears.
Although understand that by the last book, I do mean the 12th one not the 4th one.
 
I'll look forward to shedding tears of joy. They are wonderfully uplifting.
 
There are wonderful stirring moments in the first four, however, that can have the same effect.
 
Hmm. Do you want a very lowly recommendation you might enjoy?
 
Want is the root of all woe.
But come.
 
2:49 AM
The History of Love by Nicole Krauss. It's not sci-fi or fantasy, but it's very well written, and joyful at the end like almost no other book I've read recently.
 
@medica Ohh I'm sorry, I see the image has no title: world military expenditure.
 
@Cerberus lol
 
@Cerberus Who could not have sussed that?
 
might fit CO2 emissions as well.
 
I don't think so.
 
2:51 AM
(I didn't)
 
Europe and China emit a lot more than that!
 
@Cerberus I know the US is responsible for ~50%
 
Or irresponsible.
 
I thought we were better than that. I'm ashamed.
@tchrist indeed.
 
2:52 AM
It really is embarassing.
 
@medica Not really.
Your population is comparatively small.
 
@medica I think I just figured out tchrist's short comment sorcery; the Unicode character called zero-width non-joiner ( U+200C). To comment with "yep.", simply write "yep", paste the ZWNJ eleven times, and then add the period. As the name implies, the ZWNJ has no width, so no one will notice eleven of them subtly sandwiched between the "yep" and the ".", and they still count towards the minimum character limit. (I tested it and it works.)
 
Ding!
 
@Cerberus Hmm... That's not the number I saw most recently, but I'm gateful for it.
 
Gateful?
 
2:54 AM
:/ grateful.
You might know more about gates, I would think.
 
--- 200E        LEFT-TO-RIGHT MARK
        * commonly abbreviated LRM
--- 200F        RIGHT-TO-LEFT MARK
        * commonly abbreviated RLM
--- 202A        LEFT-TO-RIGHT EMBEDDING
        * commonly abbreviated LRE
--- 202B        RIGHT-TO-LEFT EMBEDDING
        * commonly abbreviated RLE
--- 202D        LEFT-TO-RIGHT OVERRIDE
        * commonly abbreviated LRO
--- 202E        RIGHT-TO-LEFT OVERRIDE
        * commonly abbreviated RLO
 
There is a large gate 200m from here.
At least large in Mediaeval terms.
 
Like the ox and his writing, not to mention riding, mine goes both ways, boustrophedonically.
 
@Cerberus Wow! Look at Japan! For it's size...
@TheodoreBroda Well, look at that! Thank you!
Now I've only to figure out what that means!
 
2:58 AM
@tchrist Your previous cryptic response makes sense now! I should have guessed it!
 
:-)
 
Yes, you should have. I am disappoint.
 
The world is soon to be in the hands of the young (to me).
OK, I really have to run. Hub made me dinner, gotta eat it while it's warm.
 
@medica Japan is rather large!
Look, their emissions per capita are not so bad, 2009.
 
Good night to you all.
 
3:00 AM
Good night.
 
:-)
 
I wonder why the Anglo-Saxon countries outside England are so high.
 
@Cerberus FU
 
Oh, not that again...
 
STOP CALLING IT THAT! YOU ARE LYING!!
 
3:03 AM
I also wonder about Finland and the Czech Republic.
Or Czechia, as I prefer to call it.
France is probably green because of their numerous nuclear power plants.
 
Good night too.
 
Greenland is green, because it's called greenland.
2
 
Good night.
@TheodoreBroda Yes, the map-makers made an exception for Greenland.
Not for the Red Sea, alas.
Nor for Belarus.
 
The ice sheets little carbon emit.
 
Still, they look more white or grey to me.
 
3:08 AM
Is mining for diamonds emitting carbon, because diamonds are an allotrope of carbon?
 
I see white!
@TheodoreBroda Carbon, mayhaps; but CO2?
 
@Cerberus Sicut dixi.
Or even dixeram.
Look deeper.
Quaerendo invenietis.
 
I don't understand Spanish very well. Requīrō interpres!
 
Traductorem non habemus.
 
3:21 AM
@tchrist e, Google interpretem habet. (Will adding an "e" to the end of your username change it to the vocative case? I hope so.)
 
If it was good enough for Jesum, it’s good for mihi.
@TheodoreBroda The proclitic at sign is the vocative particle in internetese.
 
@tchrist For mihi?
 
@Cerberus Say it with silent h.
 
@tchrist I guess that makes "@tchrist -e" pleonastic.
 
@tchrist I cannot.
@TheodoreBroda I'd rather say at stands for ad, of which I believe it to be a reflex.
 
3:27 AM
O mi fili, but try.
 
But, while I applaud your applying Latin grammar to English, it does not always work well.
 
@tchrist Silent "H"? Do you not use Classical Latin pronunciation? (or Ancient Spanish pronunciation, whichever you wish to call it).
 
Canis Latinicus
Latinae lingua canum.
Must be clear about which tongue is wagging which dog.
 
That does not sound right...
 
I know.
Lingua romanum canumque.
Which cannot be found fault with. :)
But doesn’t quite say what I originally intended.
 
3:33 AM
@tchrist I would assume @Cerberus has "linguae triplae", being a three-headed canis.
 
Now you’ve gone and done it.
Flee, all is discovered!
 
How would you translate "Google" into Latin? "Gogulus"? "Cuculus"?
 
@TheodoreBroda Habeo!
 
I just discovered Google Latina! Instead of "I'm feeling lucky", there's "Favente Fortuna!"
 
@TheodoreBroda One would remain silent, probably...
@TheodoreBroda Yay!
I once set my Google to Latin, but it didn't work well.
I have Facebook in Latin, but the translations are so-so and incomplete.
@tchrist I would be surprised to see a genitive plural Romanum.
 
4:00 AM
Hi guys.
 
 
1 hour later…
5:29 AM
Good Morning Everyone :)
 
Hi pal :-)
 
Are you lecturer by occupation?
@skullpatrol
 
5:45 AM
Nah, I'm nobody.
 
I need help understanding a line in a poem called "To A Pair of Sarus Cranes"
 
askaway
 
The male was shot
as he necked
to pull the reluctant sun out
from the rim of horizon.

She flew crying
as he was picked up hands and jaws
and a rpoud neck was humbled
to lie like dirty linen
in a coarse washing bag.

She circled the sky
in movements of grace
over his disgraceful end.
The killers went away and she returned
with grief that inscribed its intensity
in dots and pits
like the Morse code of bird's sorrow
transformed to the air.

With her beak she kissed a few feathers
picked the ones that wind had not taken away
*a proud neck ( a typo error)
the line: "as he was picked up hands and jaws..." what does it mean
 

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