> Re: [Cryptography] Opening Discussion: Speculation on "BULLRUN"
>
> John Gilmore Fri, 06 Sep 2013 17:49:35 -0700
>
> Speaking as someone who followed the IPSEC IETF standards committee
> pretty closely, while leading a group that tried to implement it and
> make so usable that it would be used by default throughout the
> Internet, I noticed some things:
>
>
> * NSA employees participted throughout, and occupied leadership roles
> in the committee and among the editors of the documents