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Cerberus

00:05

You shrug.

Imagine if the plant did that!

All the tomatoes would drop on that poor woman and crush her.

Robusto

00:26

@Cerberus Plants might shrug if you give them a nominal fee.

Cerberus

A nominal fee of 100,000 tomatoes?

Robusto

> Airlines are/were the worst, where they used to tripe the amount advertised through fees, taxes, and levies.

How do you "tripe" an amount, @cerb?

Cerberus

Well, you chew on it, swallow it, then let it fester in your intestines.

Are you saying that's not what airlines used to do with their prices?

Robusto

I'm not saying anything. I'm just asking for clarification.

Cerberus

And there you have it.

Robusto

00:30

So valid it hurts. — Robusto 1 min ago

Cerberus

Thanks.

Robusto

Ne dada.

Cerberus

De?

Robusto

The old switcheroo. Maybe better as née dada?

Cerberus

That's an interesting state to be born in, especially for girls.

Mitch

00:43

@RegDwighт There's something strange going on; here's no need for that woman to be that happy.

tchrist

@Mitch Catsup has natural mellowing agents.

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Mitch

@tchrist then she should be lying down

@O0oO0oOO0ooO translation?

Robusto

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Just chill.

tchrist

A small town in Colorado is considering an ordinance that would create a license and bounty for hunters to shoot down drones.

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Robusto

00:56

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OK, chill time over.

@tchrist Hahaha. The revolution will not be televised. At least not from 12,000 ft.

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TRiG

01:29

@tchrist AWESOME!

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

01:44

Hai?

Robusto

Hiya.

Robusto

01:58

Here's an unusual edit request:

The Japanese says "Vuitton handbag": seriously, fake-purse ninjas!

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

O_O

Does this page make my ass look fat?

Robusto

I missed it. Post again.

No. It makes your ass invisible.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Is it passable design-wise?

What an awful sentence.

@Robusto Laredo, TX?

Robusto

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 I don't know any other Laredo, do you?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@Robusto Naw.

Robusto

02:08

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Yeah. Page loads kinda slow, though.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@Robusto Chrome?

Robusto

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 The image is huge. I would suggest resizing it for the web. If you don't know how to do that, I can do it for you.

Basically you're loading a huge image and then asking the browser to resize it for you. That's a no-no in web design.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

OIC.

BRB laundry

Robusto

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cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

02:29

BF just started a Tim Minchin video, so I'll look at that in a minute.

Gonna fix the picture.

@Robusto how now, brown cow?

I broke it for a minute.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

02:46

> sink (v.) Look up sink at Dictionary.com
Old English sincan "become submerged, go under" (past tense sanc, past participle suncen), from Proto-Germanic *senkwanan (cf. Old Saxon sinkan, Old Norse sökkva, Middle Dutch sinken, Dutch zinken, Old High German sinkan, German sinken, Gothic sigqan), from PIE root *sengw- "to sink."

The transitive use supplants Middle English sench (cf. drink/drench) which died out 14c. Sinking fund is from 1724; sinker in fishing line sense is from 1844. Adjective phrase sink or swim is from 1660s. To sink without a trace is World War I military jargon, transla…

O0oO0oOO0ooO

06:31

Is "outgoing" opposite word of "shy" ?

Robusto

09:47

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Mucho better.

Johan Larsson

@Cerberus Last day before vacation here, wearing Acapulco-shirt, just not lookin' good

Stack Exchange

10:52

Limerick Machine: I prefer single malt

posted on July 18, 2013 by sgdi

There’s nothing quite like a good drink For assisting the thoughts that you think A shot or two, neat Goes straight to your feet Always better with friends, though, chink chink

RegDwighт

@tchrist Frankly, I think that guy is an idiot who doesn't get maths.

Robusto

11:31

I brake for whales.

Johan Larsson

I'm looking for sources saying that GUI programming is hard, not coming up with much

Read somewhere that X% of Adobes codebase is gui stuff. X was a high number, don't remember where I read it.

Robusto

@JohanLarsson I'm a GUI programmer and I say it's hard.

Not for me, necessarily, but for most people.

Johan Larsson

ok now I have one

Robusto

What's hard about it is not enough people specialize in it. Which is why people with my skill set are so much in demand. Either you have back-end programmers who write crappy front-end code, or you have graphic designers who do whatever Adobe Dreamweaver gives them (i.e., crappy front-end code).

Competent, experienced people who actually understand Javascript, HTML and CSS (along with the DOM) are pretty rare.

Johan Larsson

An the input is generated by errorfactories (humans)

Robusto

11:39

Most of the Javascript frameworks you see are for middle-tier and back-end developers who don't really get UI programming. And they get lost in their abstraction and don't know what to do when it springs a leak. Fie! A pox on them all!

Johan Larsson

The reason I'm looking for sources is that my friend is writing a thesis about usability.

Robusto

Ah. I can only give you anecdotal evidence.

David Wallace

@StackExchange Could this be the best limerick that Matt has ever written?

RegDwighт

Sadly I don't get the meter.

Robusto

And yet you are on the metric system. Sad.

RegDwighт

11:48

Exactly.

David Wallace

@KitFox Congratulations!

Robusto

Come on over to U.S. measurements. Here it's all unicorns, rainbows, and sweet music.

David Wallace

How many unicorns are there in a rainbow?

Robusto

That depends on the size of the rainbow, of course.

RegDwighт

About this size.

David Wallace

11:53

Then it's not much good as a unit of measurement, is it?

Robusto

Well, are we talking standard unicorns or Imperial unicorns?

David Wallace

That's like saying "how many inches in a foot? ... well, it depends how big your feet are".

RegDwighт

@DavidWallace that is precisely the case.

Which is why nobody in his right mind uses feet.

Robusto

Well, how did you get to work today?

RegDwighт

Jul 3 at 20:01, by RegDwighт

And you keep explaining my jokes to... who?

Robusto

11:55

I'm being your straight man. Lighten up.

David Wallace

Yeah, I guess the whole gallons thing is dumb though.

RegDwighт

@Robusto Sorry, I'm more into gay men.

Robusto

@DavidWallace Who wouldn't want a gallon of unicorns?

David Wallace

If it's a normal sized unicorn, one gallon wouldn't be very much of it.

RegDwighт

Robusto

11:56

A gallon can hold infinitely many unicorns. You just have to believe.

@RegDwighт That cake is upside down.

RegDwighт

Hence the "all" part in "gallon".

David Wallace

Wow, I am TOTALLY making that cake for my son's next birthday.

I would include indigo though.

Robusto

Red is supposed to be the lower wavelength. QED

RegDwighт

David Wallace

Umm, are you sure?

RegDwighт

11:58

Now shut it.

Robusto

Better.

But now you need infrared frosting.

David Wallace

Red has a greater wavelength than blue. Not a lower one.

Robusto

I guess I mean frequency.

RegDwighт

@Robusto is there an Instagram filter for that? I'm not seeing it. Perhaps because I don't have Instagram. Or know what Instagram is.

David Wallace

imagines going to the supermarket and demanding infra-red frosting

RegDwighт

11:59

Robusto

I don't know what Instagram is either, except a boondoggle for some lucky fellows who rode a fad for fools into megabucks.

David Wallace

Do you have to dress as a gorilla?

RegDwighт

I think Sinatra sang about Mr Boondoggle once.

Or was it Robbie Williams?

Robusto

Don McLean?

David Wallace

I'm quite sure Sinatra did NOT sing about Robbie Williams.

RegDwighт

12:01

@DavidWallace Mein Gorilla hat 'ne Villa im Zoo.

Robusto

You don't know what Ol' Blue Eyes sang in his shower.

David Wallace

imagines Frank Sinatra imagining Robbie Williams in the shower

RegDwighт

And then he went and spoilt it all by singing something stupid like Rob Williams.

Robusto

Maybe it was Rob Zombie then.

RegDwighт

Maybe it was Rob Dob Redemption.

David Wallace

12:02

Haha, a triple entendre. And all three are bad. I should be flagged.

RegDwighт

You don't get to expect the Spanish flagging.

Much less order it upon yourself.

David Wallace

It doesn't have to be Spanish.

I wasn't expecting an inquisition.

Robusto

Expect the unexpected.

David Wallace

Ooh, that's awfully bright on my screen.

Robusto

Blame Spain.

RegDwighт

12:05

@DavidWallace Ha! See! That was unexpected!

David Wallace

Anyway, isn't that the Spanish Royal Standard?

Robusto

Expectorate the unexpectorated.

David Wallace

Not in public.

Robusto

@DavidWallace I know nothing of Spanish measurements.

Expert the unexperted.

David Wallace

I could put that on my business card.

Robusto

12:08

Royalties.

David Wallace

You're expecting Royalty? Is that why you were flying the Royal Standard?

Robusto

Flag of Spain

Dunno nuthin' bout royals in Spain.

@RegDwighт So now that we're putting questions "on hold" instead of closing them, shouldn't the "close" link be renamed to "put on hold"? Oops.

RegDwighт

12:31

@Robusto no. It must be renamed into "I am the god of hell fire and I bring you fire, I'll take you to burn".

But that change is currently on hold. See what I did there? You get it? "On hold"! Hahaha.

Robusto

@RegDwighт Don't you know any other art colors than brown?

@RegDwighт Close, but no cigar.

RegDwighт

Well, as long as it's no aspartame.

Robusto

You can't spell aspartame without Sparta.

RegDwighт

@Robusto I will answer that question for 300 dollars.

Robusto

That's a hefty fee.

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Q: A collective term for periods of under a year

This word would describe the set of words (Quarterly, Monthly, Weekly, Daily...) I feel like something exists but I am stuck on the same recurring thought which isn't right. Cheers

time

Why still open? It's about program identifiers.

I am naming a table within a database. The name needs to express that all the data within it will relate to actions taken either [quarterly or monthly etc]. Whilst not a sentence, naming is extremely important in my opinion to be clear and concise so that at a glance it can cover what is contained within. Something along the lines of tbl_ValuationData*wordhere* — N t 1 hour ago

RegDwighт

12:35

@Robusto She's hefty, she gets around, she's hefty, she's always down, she's hefty, you know she's got a gripe, she's hefty and she's just my type.

Robusto

You like big butts and you cannot lie.

RegDwighт

That's a lie. I can lie.

Just because I won't doesn't mean I can't.

Robusto

@RegDwighт Liar.

RegDwighт

If you call me a liar, you'd better smile when you say that, pardner. Them's fightin' words where I come from. — Robusto Jan 21 '11 at 20:07

Robusto

@RegDwighт Who says I wasn't smiling? On the internetz, nobody knows if you're smiling.

RegDwighт

12:37

I didn't say you weren't. Nobody did. It's like you can't read or something. Dude.

You just won't let me close that question, will you?

Robusto

You're nobody till somebody loves you.

RegDwighт

Nobody loves you when you're down and out.

Robusto

Or old and gay.

RegDwighт

How is that an or?

Only old people are gay, down, and out. And vice versa.

Robusto

44 mins ago, by RegDwighт

@Robusto Sorry, I'm more into gay men.

So are you old?

RegDwighт

12:40

That took you over 44 minutes to find.

Robusto

*milliseconds

RegDwighт

There's nothing milli about empires. That's why we go over this stuff.

Also, where did you take your logic lessons? From Obama?

If being into old people makes you old, then being into women makes you a woman.

And being into Giancarlo Esposito makes you sell excellent meth.

Robusto

I just wanted to hear you say it.

RegDwighт

Tough luck, my mic is off.

Robusto

You don't even have sound on your computer.

RegDwighт

12:43

That's about receiving, not giving.

Robusto

Your computer is unsound.

RegDwighт

My computer is in unison with itself.

Robusto

Mine is transposed by a fifth (not vodka).

RegDwighт

What a fifthy computer.

Robusto

"...Wartung, Instandhaltung und Unterhalt": now apparently a single term.

RegDwighт

12:49

In German, everything is a single term.

Including "single term".

So. Um. The current Rolling Stone cover is a bad joke, right?

Robusto

13:05

Haven't seen it.

OK, now I've seen it. I don't think they mean it as a joke. They are apparently blaming his bad toilet training for his crimes. How could it be his fault? He's on the cover of Rolling Stone! QED

RegDwighт

As Weird Al Yankovic tweeted, "Apparently all this time I've been trying to get on the cover of Rolling Stone the HARD way."

Robusto

Hahaha.

RegDwighт

Speaking of covers, Spiegel Online had an interview with some German designer lady who snatched no less than three New Yorker covers this year. So far.

spiegel.de/fotostrecke/…

Robusto

14:03

@RegDwighт I've seen those. We have a subscription. I remember thinking how good that ski cover was.

And tell @CapricaSix to just stop.

Caprica Six

HAMMERTIME!

Robusto

Oh stop.

MετάEd

@Robusto You stop.

Caprica Six

HAMMERTIME!

Robusto

@MετάEd NO U!!!!

MετάEd

14:05

@Robusto I NO UR BUT WHUT M I

Robusto

You left out the exclamation points!!!!! A rookie move!!!!!

Cerberus

@JohanLarsson I see. I suppose I should be glad I don't know what an Acapulco shirt is?

Robusto

I don't know either. Maybe he means a guyabera shirt?

Cerberus

Of that I have heard even less.

Johan Larsson

this type of ugly

Robusto

14:15

@Cerberus You are a non-tropical doggie.

@JohanLarsson That's what Americans call a Hawaiian shirt.

Cerberus

@JohanLarsson OMG.

Thanks for censoring that.

@Robusto Very much so.

Robusto

Hey, it's ironic when hipsters do it.

Johan Larsson

@Robusto ok, dunno where I got Acapulco from, we call it 'Hawaiiskjorta' in Sweden

Cerberus

It's also ironic when people go shopping in their underwear. Still not a good idea.

Robusto

@JohanLarsson There are many differences between Hawaii and Acapulco. For one thing, no one would have given a shit if the Japanese had bombed Acapulco. For another, you're much less likely to be kidnapped and held for ransom in Hawaii. I could go on.

RegDwighт

14:17

@Robusto yes, I know you have, that's why I mentioned them.

Robusto

@RegDwighт Would you like me to leave the old issues out on the deck for you?

tchrist

@Robusto He loathes comfortable casual clothes. Not starched enough for him.

Robusto

I have this image of @Cerberus in a high stock collar with a waistcoat.

tchrist

Very tightly buttoned.

Robusto

The more buttons, the more constraint.

Johan Larsson

14:21

why all this?

tchrist

Shiny brass buttons.

Robusto

Whoa, I didn't say he would be wearing a giant metal bra.

Cerberus

@Robusto Hardly. Why wear a waistcoat without a suit?

tchrist

vest

Robusto

@Cerberus For, er, casual wear?

Cerberus

14:22

That is traditionally not done...

Robusto

Casual wear?

Cerberus

But, really, I wear a suit only a few times a year.

Haha, day=>year.

Robusto

Oh, I forgot. You live in the Edwardian age.

tchrist

I thought Edward was dead?

Cerberus

A waistcoat without a jacket means you're either a hipster or mistaken.

The hipster waistcoat is like...a woman with a tie.

tchrist

14:25

@Cerberus Sexist!

Cerberus

That looks like a waiter in a tropical resort...

tchrist

Robusto

@Cerberus That is a picture of you?

Cerberus

You don't recognise her?

Robusto

Marlene Dietrich?

She looks German.

Cerberus

14:28

Ding!

She is!

Robusto

So it is you.

Cerberus

I lack boobs.

tchrist

This too shall pass.

Robusto

@Cerberus Hiatus maxime deflendus.

Cerberus

Thanks.

Robusto

14:28

YW.

Cerberus

Ugh. Why do newspaper articles have to be an inefficient as possible, giving you the essential facts as late and spread out as possible?

I am reading about healthcare, and I don't need to read an account of how Ms Joan (53) is going to hospital and how many of her children are there.

Robusto

@RegDwighт: In reading that article, I came across the word nanu — damn me, but I can't recall ever seeing that before. Maybe my memory is failing, or maybe it's new. Is it something like Na ja?

tchrist

I like the brown one.

Robusto

@tchrist Both of the manikins are black.

RegDwighт

@Robusto no, it's like "huh".

Robusto

14:33

Is it recent?

RegDwighт

It's been around for a century at least.

Robusto

Shit. I wonder how I've never noticed it.

RegDwighт

In fact it sounds pretty dusty. Grannish.

It's not a word a teen would use.

Robusto

Hmm.

RegDwighт

Actually I'm under the impression that it's not a word a teen would have used at any time.

You only start using it past a certain age.

Cerberus

14:36

Never seen it either.

RegDwighт

Haha, this was helpful: en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nanu

WTF

tchrist

@RegDwighт That’s expected.

RegDwighт

Well not by me.

I'd've rather expected the Spanish Inquisition, to be true.

tchrist

Castillian for dwarf is enano. Asturian has an -u/-os paradigm. And often skips the first syllable.

You were expecting Mork’s nanu-nanu?

RegDwighт

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tchrist

14:40

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RegDwighт

Wow how's that for special effects.

tchrist

When you have deep pockets, you can do anything.

RegDwighт

I found an N64 in my deep pocket just the other day.

@Cerberus can confirm.

tchrist

What was Cerb doing in your pocket?

Cerberus

@RegDwighт With a vat of wine inside?

@RegDwighт Sure, I wouldn't trust my own German.

RegDwighт

14:45

Yeah. With 19% VAT inside.

Cerberus

So low?

We have 21 %.

RegDwighт

yesterday, by RegDwighт

http://imgur.com/a/sneoW?gallery

tchrist

Evil.

WTF you gots VATs for?

Just sign over your fricking paycheck.

The government will give you back what they think you deserve.

RegDwighт

@Cerberus Merkel has been working her way up from 13%. Never mind that every time she runs she promises, in writing, to not raise the VAT. Then the very first thing she does when she wins is raise the VAT. Every single time. And everyone's noticing. And then rinse repeat. I wish I were kidding.

Johan Larsson

ekonomifakta.se/sv/Fakta/Skatter/Skattetryck

Keynes theory had an impact, misinterpreted

Cerberus

14:48

@tchrist Gini.

RegDwighт

@tchrist oh you have VAT alright. Just because you don't call it that doesn't make it go away. And at least we can always tell the actual price before paying, in every state, all 500 million of us.

Cerberus

@RegDwighт Haha, why? Under what pressure?

RegDwighт

@Cerberus because she's the Merkel. No other reason.

Cerberus

@RegDwighт This.

Ah.

Do you know how popular she is abroad?

RegDwighт

Approximately seven.

Cerberus

14:49

Most people like her here.

tchrist

@RegDwighт I pay 5% sales tax. That crap you have is obscene and evil and wrong.

Cerberus

Gini.

tchrist

Fucking 21%, my God!!

RegDwighт

@tchrist well that's where we're coming from, duh.

Cerberus

It's lower on things like food and books and art.

RegDwighт

14:49

I still remember the days of 7%.

tchrist

@Cerberus Stop it or I’ll post your modelling shot again.

Cerberus

@tchrist Gini.

RegDwighт

Then 11% then 13% then 16% now 19%.

And they keep saying oh but in the UK it's 25%.

tchrist

This was in his pre-doggie days.

Cerberus

@tchrist You score like a developing country on Gini indices.

RegDwighт

14:50

And once we're at 90% they'll say, what does another point even matter.

Cerberus

@RegDwighт Really? I thought we had the highest. Damn.

tchrist

I keep telling you.

It’s not your money.

Cerberus

@RegDwighт Or ten.

tchrist

It’s theirs.

Does it have your picture on it? No.

Steal from the rich, give to the slugs.

Cerberus

The main negative effect of taxes is that is discourages specialisation, one could say.

RegDwighт

14:52

@tchrist to be fair I get excellent public transport around the country and free MRIs.

Cerberus

And lots of other things.

tchrist

When your country is the size of a postage stamp, that doesn’t say much.

RegDwighт

@tchrist have you seen Germany?

Don't give me any of that nonsense.

Cerberus

Tchrist is hilarious when he's in his patriotic mood.

tchrist

So the maples formed a union
 And demanded equal rights.
 "The oaks are just too greedy;
 We will make them give us light."
 Now there's no more oak oppression,
 For they passed a noble law,
 And the trees are all kept equal
 By hatchet, axe, and saw.

RegDwighт

14:53

You don't even have proper public transport in a singular city.

tchrist

@RegDwighт Untrue.

Cerberus

Or healthcare. Or education.

tchrist

You can find them.

Untrue.

Cerberus

Or welfare.

tchrist

Welfare?

Freebies?

RegDwighт

14:53

@tchrist True when compared to a city with actual public transport.

Remember we're not comparing Detroit to itself. We're comparing it to the corresponding shithole in Germany.

tchrist

Detroit is not a model of anything.

I have fine public transportion.

So does San Francisco.

And many places.

Cerberus

Look, this is not a pleasant or fruitful discussion.

tchrist

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RegDwighт

@tchrist the sales tax in Sanfran is like 9%, not five.

tchrist

True.

Gotta pay for BART somehow.

RegDwighт

14:56

Well. So we haven't much proven anything.

tchrist

Still isn’t 21%.

RegDwighт

Except we forgot to mention that Detroit was a nice model for one of the cities in Burnout: Revenge.

tchrist

Which is like usurious or something.

RegDwighт

@tchrist you almost make it sound like you're complaining.

tchrist

I don’t know enough caconyms.

@RegDwighт I always sound like that.

RegDwighт

14:58

I'm just saying, I actually pay those prices, I pay twice your price for LEGO, after a 50% discount, and yet it's you who sounds like he's complaining.

tchrist

Taxes always draw complaint

Robusto

I'm on a conference call listening to our new digital guru expound. He just said, "What Google is good at is visually seeing the world." ORLY? You mean they can't see it aurally?

RegDwighт

Well his wheels are well-glued, that's for sure.

Robusto

Aye.

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