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00:07
@Cerberus Which is why you’re converting them to your missing contacts.
00:45
I should prefer something else.
Like...bacon.
> The new EU study found that "digital music piracy should not be viewed as a growing concern for copyright holders in the digital era."
> European Commission study looks at 16,000 users across five countries.
@Cerberus Good luck with that. Chicken Little will never submit to surrender-monkey, cheese-mongering jurisdiction by the EU.
Apologies if my frac-tails went a-flying there.
@Cerberus Ew.
@Mahnax What!
Bacon = good.
doesn't like bacon
00:52
!
How!?
You...pig!
It's just… salty fat. That's not very appealing to me.
How is salty fat not appealing??
It's also smoky!
With some nice artificial smoke flavour.
Yay!
And don't forget burned meat.
Chock full with carcinogens.
I'd rather just not eat meat at all, really.
00:54
Hmm.
Then you can't eat bacon.
Well, I already avoid it (bacon, that is). It's unhealthy and not very good, IMO.
I rarely eat meat. The main product I'd miss if I were a vegetarian would be bacon.
How often do you eat it?
It depends....sometime once a month, sometimes several times a week. But never a lot at once.
It could be worse.
Hehe.
00:57
Uhuh.
So what kind(s) of meat do you eat?
Mostly chicken. Sometimes ground beef.
When I cook for myself, I don't eat meat at all.
So you will just contract Creutzfeldt-Jakob and Bird Flu.
Haha. Well, I don't eat that much!
00:59
While I labour against cancer and heart attacks.
Do you need to eat a lot to be infected by the virus?
The more frequently you consume it, the more likely you are to catch the virus. Right?
So what is your main concern regarding meat? Your health? The treatment of animals?
Statistically, probably. But you can still catch it.
All of the above, plus it's just not that good.
OK.
Most of the meat I eat is in stuff that I didn't prepare myself.
And I eat meatless on most days, I think.
And I agree that most kinds of meat are nothing special.
But bacon...
Haha. You just can't live without it, eh?
01:03
I could...
But meh.
Do you like well-seasoned meat balls?
I suppose, yes.
Carpaccio?
Never had it.
Sounds revolting though.
01:05
Raw smoked ham?
Revolting?
Well, not that bad.
@Cerberus Easy:
Aug 17 '12 at 3:04, by tchrist
Here is but one pathetic example of the sort of dross that these miserably incompetent ESLlers bring us:
“My private tragedy, which cannot, and indeed should not, be anybody’s concern, is that I had to abandon my natural idiom, my untrammelled, rich, and infinitely docile Russian tongue for a second-rate brand of English, devoid of any of those apparatuses — the baffling mirror, the black velvet backdrop, the implied associations and traditions — which the native illusionist, frac-tails flying, can magically use to transcend the heritage in his own way.”
I do enjoy fish sometimes, though. Not that I couldn't live without it.
@Cerberus Never had it, but that sounds bad.
It is the best thing ever! Never eaten Serrano or Parma ham?
Nope.
01:06
@tchrist You're not making any sense.
Okay.
mouths watering
@Cerberus I didn’t know whether you would know Chicken Little.
@Cerberus I doubt that it beats a trip to Europe, but if you like it that much…
And I am making excellent sense.
Haha.
Well, I won't encourage you to eat meat.
Was just teasing.
Proselytizer!
01:07
@tchrist Not to me you're not.
frac-tails flying = native-speaker allusions
But Nabokov gets a bye.
I’ve decided the present company is unlikely to take things in the spirit meant.
So I renege and withdraw.
I saw that as a joke, which it was, right?
Ayup.
But I deleted it for the humor-impaired.
Can't risk getting flagged these days.
Because eight hours from now, somebody would surely flag it.
jinxed you!
01:11
Are you old enough to be posting such svelte images as that?
I was not aware that a can of coke was considered svelte.
Look at the ribbon to the right (can-left).
All advertising images have covert sexual allusion in them.
Especially ice.
I see. I shall have to be more careful.
At least, that’s what they taught me in this-or-that silly high-school class.
01:15
There, that's for those with more delicate sensibilities. I wouldn't want to be flagged.
@tchrist Sounds just ridiculous enough to be high school, yep.
You missed one. Look at the l.
horrified gasp
faints
> Look to the lady.
Every time I think of the word faint, Lady Macbeth comes to mind.
Not a bad thing.
It’s good to recall her.
How's that?
‭ 🙈
For those who hate evil monkeys.
01:20
Bah, Chrome won't display those by default?
But but but.
Rrrrrrreally???????
Yeah. And I'm on a Mac!
flicks Chrome
Weird. I’m using Safari. Pas de problème.
@Cerb I’m sorry.
I switched to Chrome a little while ago, but I used to use Safari.
I have to go deal with a flooded (flooding?) basement.
01:23
It's really of very little importance to be able to see every little character that turns into a box in tchrist's hands.
@tchrist Oh dear. Good luck!
Thanks, I’ll need it. Full report in the morn. Not a pretty picture.
I have a bit of homework, so I'll be on my way as well. Bye.
@tchrist It doesn't matter.
 
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02:35
My chat box is gone again. le sigh
"Why'd you say that twice?"

"I didn't."
@tchrist nice box. Could have used it while I was moving.
 
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07:52
This cracks me up every single time:
 
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Jez
Jez
11:08
morning
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 "or using five pints of oil instead of five quarts" - see, this is why you should use metric.
11:51
@RegDwighт Does Paar also mean the golf score of par, or is it at least recognized as a homophonic pun in German?
Jez
Jez
I read that as "homophobic pun"
I love that Ali G interview where he tells a homeopathic doctor "you iz a homophobic doctor"
@Jez I figured someone would.
12:42
From here.
Don’t mess with the owl.
Good day, sir.
Or maam.
I have a quick one-word question for which dictionaries failed me. I hope you don't mind asking it here.
Not at all.
Is it correct to say "ontogenic stage" or "ontogenetic stage"?
12:44
I have no idea. I don’t know the word.
OED has both.
The Internet is full of both, Google tries to tell me that I meant "ontogenetic" when I write "ontogenic" but there are more hits for "ontogenic".
> ontogenal, ontogenesis, ontogenetic, ontogenetical, ontogenetically, ontogenic, ontogenically, ontogenist, ontogeny, ontogony, ontography.
@tchrist Ah, nice. I tried Merriam Webster and when it didn't have any, I thought that it is too specialized a term for a general dictionary.
Here as often but not always, the buck indeed stops at the OED.
I’m not especially fond of MW.
I checked Pubmed, 31 hits for "ontogenetic stages" and 11 for "ontogenic stages". That decided you. But thank you for your input. Good to know that OED can be better than MW, I thought they were roughly equivalent.
12:53
Searching Pubmed is a good approach.
@rumtscho Google can be an idiot sometimes. Ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny. If that doesn't require stages, then I am surprised.
Ah no, the OED and MW are by no means “roughly equivalent”. Really.
That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t ever look in both. They just aren’t in the same class.
@Robusto Sorry, I think I am missing something. How is this sentence connected to Google's results?
@Rob Here’s a cool map of live winds.
@rumtscho If someone searches for a perfectly good word like ontogeny and Google attempts to tout them off onto a different word, that is Google being at least annoying, if not downright idiotic.
@tchrist Obviously we are having another nor'easter.
13:01
It’s weird seeing the winds going the wrong way in places.
@tchrist That's sweet. Is something like that available for other continents?
@rumtscho Dunno.
@Robusto But is Ontogenesis a different word, or is one of the two words just a wrong form of the other?
They certainly mean the same thing, and were built from the same roots.
They are different forms of the same word. Neither is wrong.
Huh, we’ve started making plutonium again.
Or as Poul Anderson called it, helstuff.
Jez
Jez
13:13
sigh. i need to motivate myself to do some really boring code refactoring.
No technical-debt nightmares to inspire you?
Jez
Jez
huh?
@Jez Promise yourself a cookie when you are finished? Works sometimes for me
Jez
Jez
i just ate.
Why do you have to rewrite the code in the first place? Because it was a lame first draft, so needs tightening?
Jez
Jez
13:15
well i have a poor understanding of MVC which is gradually getting better
The nightmares might be of having to maintain the old code.
Jez
Jez
i realize design decisions i made wrong
but it works now and it's hella boring to refactor it
Oh. You’re one of those Microsoft people.
Figgers.
Jez
Jez
technically MVC has a bunch of non-microsoft implementations but i'm using Microsoft's
 
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14:25
@Cerberus So I tried using that new technique for playing music. Something is horribly wrong with it because it keeps losing its connection or something, and the music stops for minutes at a time. sigh.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Hmm what technique?
@Cerberus that file manager that accesses the files over SMB (windows networking)
it's just unusable
Oh hmm...weird.
I've never used SMB.
@Cerberus yes you have
it's the default file sharing protocol on Windows
Oh...well, that never works for me. Ever.
God knows I've tried.
I just cannot share a folder between my PC, my laptop, or my phone using Windows shared folders.
I must have spent several days on that over the years.
So FTP...
14:31
Well, it usually works for me. And in this case it is mostly working. Except song playback is not. it just pauses for a while. I suspect maybe it's the FS File Manager's music player which is the problem.
@Cerberus You cannot use FTP to stream music.
Why not?
because that's not what it's for
anyway I just wish the damn DLNA program would let me make playlists easier.
What happens if you do play a file from an FTP server?
14:47
@Cerberus I dunno. I don't have an FTP server running on the host in question and I don't recall a music player that allows using an FTP server as a source of music.
Surely we have progressed past the time of needing to use FTP for anything these days.
I have no idea.
Why can't DLNA be fixed?
user19161
Guys, I have 20k on MSE, yay!
user19161
It's now time to retire from SE altogether!
Jez
Jez
heh
math. how can people comprehend the stuff on there?
15:01
@Cerberus I dunno. Anyway, I've taken a step: I've sent an email to the developer of the least-bad DLNA app, the one I use, and asked if I could help make it better.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Well done! What application is this? Does he update it a lot?
@Cerberus It's called UPnPlay and it updates occasionally.
OK good luck!
I have to go palaeographe now...
Bai!
Jez
Jez
15:20
A fat cat sat and smelled a rat, or maybe that bat.
 
2 hours later…
17:43
Hello everyone!!
Hi Cerbywerb
Hi!
What are y'all up to?
Sitting in historical linguistics class
Oh!
That's cool.
Is it interesting?
I wish it were. It's a bit dry.
17:47
Did you know that the Italic and Celtic branches of Indo-European are more closely related?
Hiya!
And so, too, the Germanic and Slavic branches (probably)?
whinnies
By the way, it is funny how the regulars here are all different animals. Not much overlap.
Kit usually being a fennec.
She and I are like Celtic and Italic, more closely related. But still not always mutually intelligible!

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