English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room - 2012-07-11 (page 1 of 4)

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12:27 AM

Ta DA!

Oh. Well, that's a bit awkward.

Who is?

Hail.

Not that awkward.

I mean, this room has seen worse.

Have you sent an e-mail to Mr Annoying?

Hello, my sweeties.

@Cerberus What?

@Gigili Oh, um... well, now, yes. What's up?

You were going to send B. an e-mail about the delays? Or was it a conversation?

12:31 AM

Uh, I did and got a reply. I got irritated just before I left earlier.

5 hours ago, by KitFox

> Sorry not to email you last week, I was away, and meant to jot it down that night.

"jot it down" what a jerk.

Oops. Apologies.

@waiwai933 Umm, doesn't matter that much now. Is it possible to delete the picture I posted above?

@Gigili Yep. Done.

@waiwai933 Thanks a lot.

Why did you want that deleted @Gigili?

I thought you looked plenty hot.

@KitFox Bleh, as in, "I'm not even sending you a proper message, I'm just jotting something down haphazardly, because you're not important".

@KitFox Oh dear, did I miss a picture of Gigi?

I have seen one.

A while ago.

12:36 AM

@Cerberus No, I was just funnin' for the transcript readers.

Anybody want to join me for a Beefeater and tonic?

I've got fresh limes.

@KitFox Damn! Gigili posted a hot picture and I missed it?

Oh, what's a beefeater?

I am a beef eater.

@DavidWallace Hasn't she sent you others?

@DavidWallace I don't think it is possible for Gigili to post a not-hot picture.

@Cerberus A kind of gin.

Oh...

@Cerberus Has she?

12:37 AM

Nice.

@DavidWallace No, apparently, if you cannot confirm it...

How's NZ this morning?

I'm trying to decide if I should write or not.

@KitFox Cold.

I should probably write, but I am just a weensy bit knackered.

@DavidWallace Snow?

@KitFox I was afraid every man in the room will end the evening in love with me.

@DavidWallace Cold? Pah, I wish I was there.

@Gigili Well, all the women already are.

12:41 AM

Are you implying that G is in love with herself?

We should all be in love with ourselves.

We are lovely people.

@KitFox It's not snowing where I am. But the sun is shining and I still feel terribly cold.

@KitFox smooch

blushes

1 min ago, by Gigili

@KitFox smooch

12:43 AM

blushes harder

Want to drink with me?

Can Cerberus and I sell tickets to whatever happens next?

I doubt it.

Especially if K gets G drunk!

I suppose you could try.

@DavidWallace In your dreams.

12:44 AM

I don't want to get her drunk.

That's no fun.

I just want to make her feel valued and special.

@Gigili You have no idea what I dream about!

@KitFox Oh? How?

Get your tickets here!

Kit and Gigi getting drunk together!

@Gigili Well, I would start by sitting close to you, gazing into your eyes, and listening to your troubles.

metservice.com/towns-cities/wellington/wellington-city since you asked.

12:48 AM

@DavidWallace Brr, that's chilly.

It's my fault for choosing to have my lunch outside in the sun.

11 °C in mid winter?

Now. Writing? Or shall I stay and make things awkward?

votes for the latter

Maybe I can do both.

12:50 AM

Yes, the latter. The latter.

@Cerberus latter what?

@Gigili Well, then, sweetie. Tell me all your troubles.

Umm, let me think about it.

@DavidWallace Make things awkward!

The most important one is that it's 6 am and I am still here.

12:53 AM

Horrible! I just saw a man kick a pigeon!

So, I'll probably sleep till the afternoon again.

It's only 5.52 am!

Only.

5:22 I think

Huh?

I don't believe she lives in a twilight zone?

I know those exist.

12:55 AM

We've one just east of here.

@DavidWallace laughs

There's always central Australia.

pulls @Gigili close and puts her chin on Gigili's head

Have a rest, sweetie.

@KitFox Really? Where?

@KitFox Seriously not funny!

@Cerberus Um, Newfoundland, I think, has a half hour time difference from Atlantic.

12:57 AM

14 mins ago, by Gigili

1 min ago, by Gigili

@KitFox smooch

Is all I can say at this time of the day.

@KitFox Oh, OK. Funny.

@KitFox and India, and Iran.

You think you're just stuck on an island, and then this...

@DavidWallace Well, not from Atlantic time.

Pedant!

See you all

12:58 AM

Hey, I'm off to bed.

Good night.

Good night!

So then I guess I am writing.

Bye!

1 hour later…

2:18 AM

Umm.

I was wondering why you left @Vit.

Yeah, I guessed as much. Windows updates and whatnot.

I really cannot sleep. Pft + pah.

Read a book in bed?

2:37 AM

Yeah, it's those updates.

What's the most famous singular gender-neutral pronoun?

Oh...about three pounds.

Singular they seems out of fashion.

Goodbye, Windows.

-1

Q: Sizes, Kinds, Types Of Tires

--==--=-=,.=-,.=-,.=-.,=.,=- "There are many types of car tire." "There are many kinds of car tire." "There are many sizes of car tire." The first two sentences is good English? But for the third sentence, should "tire" be singular or plural? A size is not really a type or a kind. ...

He's back. Quick, nuke it.

nukes

2:52 AM

This is like, the third or so account he's used to post this

I'm actually about ready to send this person to prison.

I love your comment there

Ah, thanks.

5 hours later…

Matt Эллен

7:30 AM

this is a dupe:

1

Q: The general 'it'

What is the grammatical term for the 'it' in forms such as "It is raining" or "It won't matter", and is there a difference between the usage in those two examples?

21

Q: What does "it" refer to in "it's raining"?

I wanted to leave the question title as is so as not to take away from my amusement :). Anyway, It's raining. What is raining? Is it the sky? The clouds? The weather? The rain? What is "it"? Any historical insights on the statement?

grammar pronouns

9

Q: Whence the "it" in "I like it here"?

What is the origin of the use of the object (it) in the following sentences, and what is its purpose? I like it here! and Did you like it there? In essence, the things we are saying we like are really here (this place) and there (that place) themselves - whence the insertion of the a...

Voted to close, specially for you.

And now bed time, adieu!

Matt Эллен

awwww, thanks!

sleep well :)

Bai!

Matt Эллен

8:12 AM

should this question be allowed?

1

Q: How to say such thing in english: 2^16

How to say this mathmetical function in english: 2^16 I know ^ means power, but how to say that as a whole ?

mathematics notation

it feels somewhat lacking, but I can't put my finger on why

is it too localised?

8:24 AM

GR?

> (mathematics) A product of equal factors. Notation and usage: x^n, read as "x to the power of n"

from the Wiktionary entry for power, which he knows

Matt Эллен

Good catch!

user19161

9:26 AM

@MattЭллен Boo!

Matt Эллен

morning @Jasper!

There once was a man from the sea
Who said, with considerable glee
"I've fish in my bucket
worth one whole gold ducat!"
It was clear he's as mad as can be.

RegDwight ΒВB

Good call on the brown eye, Matt.

I guess only Bacon and Yoichi-san himself noticed that bit.

Matt Эллен

thanks. The power of pedantry implores me.

RegDwight ΒВB

The power of reading questions.

It's quite unique.

Matt Эллен

:D

user19161

9:42 AM

@RegDwightΒВB What brown eye?

RegDwight ΒВB

The one that's being poken.

-4

A: What does “poke one in the eye” mean?

"Poke in the brown eye" is slang for anal sex. 'Poke' is slang for sexual penetration, and 'brown eye' is slang for anus.

1

Q: What does "not an answer" mean?

In the post What does “poke one in the eye” mean?, Yoichi Oishi asks what the phrase means in this context: ‘It seems every step we take, it’s something just to poke us in the eye,’ a frustrated Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) said at one point this week. One answer was (and t...

discussion flagging not-an-answer

@MattЭллен I propose a new rule: if you can't spell "English", your question is automagically off-topic.

user19161

Oh yeah of course Yoichi asked about it. Reading comprehension guys!

Matt Эллен

Good rule. Needs a meta post, though

user19161

That is why I usually read a question 9000 times before answering.

RegDwight ΒВB

@MattЭллен Yeah, would get shot down as rude or pointless by TPTB. Chat is where it's at.

user19161

9:47 AM

But I have not heard poke in brown eye till just now, amazing.

user19161

Then what is normal sex? Poke in black eye?

user19161

If nobody knows I am gonna post this on main!

user19161

@matt You should post that comment as an answer.

Matt Эллен

good idea.

user19161

Wow, Jin looks like Kitaro, lol!

Matt Эллен

10:05 AM

@JasperLoy there is no eye, it's just a poke

but if there were an eye, it would be pink

So in this compound there is a playground that was covered in a rather thick layer of sand. They had installed a new play structure, with slides and all. So far so good, even though I find this new play structure distasteful: the old wooden one was much more pleasing to the eye. But now they are laying asphalt around it, in the centre of sand. What the hell?!

Matt Эллен

although, pinkeye is a medical condition. so that would not be a good choice for slang

How is tarmac better than sand? Am I missing something? Isn't it more dangerous for the kids if they fall onto the ground from the structure?

Matt Эллен

in the UK, there is this black material in use in playgrounds that is a sort of foamy asphalt, which is nice and soft to land on. Nicer than sand, I think. Less chance of hidden sharp objects.

RegDwight ΒВB

You still have such questions? When did you move to Russia, yesterday?

user image

The only unlogical thing about them laying asphalt around the structure in the centre of sand is that I'd totally expect them to just steal the asphalt instead. The sand, too. And the structure.

10:11 AM

Heh.

Nope, not here. The owners here own the compound and the adjoining area cooperatively.

RegDwight ΒВB

Well then I'd suppose it's ultimately the owners who are responsible for hiring morons vs. not morons.

Not that there isn't a shortage of not morons, but still.

More like the совет... I haven't been interested in keeping up-to-date on their BS

Guess I'll have to see the председатель about this, just out of curiosity.

RegDwight ΒВB

The soviet is dead, long live the soviet!

Matt Эллен

11:06 AM

Is the meaning of a word gen ref if the only place a satisfactory definition is found is at OED.com?

What up, peeps?

Matt Эллен

Hey @Robusto. You still in Manhattan?

Yup.

Matt Эллен

Enjoying your CMS training?

God, no.

As in any class, we move at the pace of the slowest members.

Matt Эллен

11:14 AM

ah, of course. No child left behind

Have they made content easier to manage?

Half the class knows more than the instructor, half knows NOTHING at all.

Matt Эллен

wow. that must be frustrating

Honestly, I believe my dev team could write a better CMS.

Matt Эллен

I guess the inventor writes it for themself and then has to figure out how to crowbar in features other people want. Things get messy

The one thing that's interesting is Apache Sling, but I could have learned that on my own.

Afk

Matt Эллен

11:25 AM

IAAFMKBIAEL

Tabbed browsing on my phone now. Sweet.

Matt Эллен

nice

How's the drama on ELU lately?

user19161

@MattЭллен CMS=Chicago Manual of Style? Complementary Metal Oxide Semiconductor?

Cunt Medicine, Stupid.

user19161

11:32 AM

@Robusto The phone is so small. Is there even space for tabs?

Or sometimes Content Management System.

They get handled offscreen.

user19161

@MattЭллен Er, OK. I was trying to figure out the most appropriate colour.

Matt Эллен

11:55 AM

IABAMK

I am back at my kiosk?

Matt Эллен

@Robusto pretty low key, other than that Nortonn S character. Carlo_r was having problems with "bridge ices before road", but that seems to have been resolved.

Thank god, huh?

Matt Эллен

@Robusto well, I was going for keyboard

Kitchen would be nicer.

Matt Эллен

11:58 AM

@Robusto indeed! we were fretting a while over that one

We should turn ELU into an ABC sitcom.

Unless that's already happened.

You were whating a what over what?

Halloloya.

Matt Эллен

Alprosoya!

(other soya milk brands are available)

RegDwight ΒВB

2

Q: "Above"/"below" before/after a noun

I have seen sentences similar to the following: (1) See the reference above. (2) See the reference below. And, (3) See the above reference. But not, (4) See the below reference. Are all these forms acceptable? Which is/are preferred in formal writing?

adjectives adverbs word-order

Oh come on. I turn my back on the site for just a couple minutes...

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Q: Which is correct: "the below information" or "the information below"?

I frequently see statements that refer to something later in the text that use a phrase such as "the below information". Is it more correct instead to say "the information below" (or "the following information")?

word-order grammaticality

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

12:15 PM

@MattЭллен That playground tarmac has been shown to not decrease the number of injuries because kids play more recklessly

Matt Эллен

so it would decrease the number of injuries if kids were sensible! You just need to adjust the statistics for the irresponsible nature of children, and things will be fine.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

exactly

user19161

12:32 PM

@Gigili I saw that I missed something exciting here yesterday.

@JasperLoy Oh? I missed it too. What was it?

user19161

@Gigili Well, you deleted it didn't you?

The picture? Yes, I did.

12:50 PM

5

Q: Definitive rules on chat rooms with non-technical discussion

Related: flagging a chatroom which has no technical discussion (2) , flagging a chatroom which has no technical discussion I've noticed that there are lots of chat rooms on chat where there isn't much technical discussion. By "isn't much" I mean: People advertising their own posts (not cou...

discussion chat

Is a memo a male meme? Just curious.

RegDwight ΒВB

Wait what? Flirting in Romanized Hindi? Many of it? Where?

Matt Эллен

I like the looks of your Romanised Hindi, @Reg

wink

RegDwight ΒВB

Wait for its feels!

Matt Эллен

:D

RegDwight ΒВB

12:54 PM

But seriously, they killed the War Room, all the while Romanized Hindi flirting rooms were shrooming?

@regdwight

RegDwight ΒВB

I guess Shog does have his priorities...

user19161

@kiamlaluno Hahaha. Is someone going to come and kill this room soon?

in WhiteBoard on Stack Overflow Chat, Jul 3 at 7:42, by Bertie Liu

@MehulPatel: @NinjaTurtle asked me to tell you that he's my internet BF. :p

Matt Эллен

@kiamlaluno I don't think we are part of the problem the question describes. we talk about the validity of questions all the time

RegDwight ΒВB

12:55 PM

@JasperLoy no, because no flirting in this room, duh.

Matt Эллен

plus we help people who come in and ask for it, which happens probably twice a week

in WhiteBoard on Stack Overflow Chat, Jun 25 at 10:15, by Bertie Liu

@NinjaTurtle i love you mate

(just some examples that i have links to)

RegDwight ΒВB

@Manishearth well don't search @Kit's messages, then.

No, this room is fine :)

@RegDwightΒВB Hey! I resemble that remark!

12:56 PM

@MattЭллен Yes, but there is no PROGRAMMING discussion. ;)

Matt Эллен

@kiamlaluno OH! lol :D

@kiamlaluno actually...

Oh noes! English majors can't program!

Let's talk of a program to correct a sentence I write.

user19161

@kiamlaluno The programming discussion is here, duh.

Matt Эллен

Jul 5 at 13:29, by KitFox

Anyone happen to remember how I did that super simple zebra striping in jQuery? I hate it when I can't just copy paste from something else I used to have. I probably ought to have a notebook with these things.

12:57 PM

Now, that is is really an hard task!

Matt Эллен

yes, yes it is.

RegDwight ΒВB

@Manishearth whom you call an English major? This room is full of proggers in point of irrefutable fact.

Jan 18 at 15:47, by Kitḫ

Oh, Reg, I never stop loving you.

Mar 1 at 18:07, by KitFox

I love you so much, @Vitaly.

@MattЭллен OK, I should have said programming related to English grammar.

RegDwight ΒВB

May 1 at 15:44, by KitFox

I love you, @JSB.

Mar 13 at 13:59, by KitFox

Even Hitler loved his dogs!

user19161

@RegDwightΒВB Yes, that's what we always emphasize. No flirting in this chat. We don't know what goes on in other chats though.

RegDwight ΒВB

12:59 PM

This room is so full of love. So full of love. You have no idea.

Matt Эллен

lol

Wow:p

RegDwight ΒВB

BUT! No flirting.

Feb 22 at 20:47, by KitFox

I love everybody, especially you!

@RegDwightΒВB That sentence doesn't contain "I love"; I am sorry, but that doesn't count. ;)

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