English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room - 2012-05-11 (page 5 of 6)

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RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

6:08 PM

Uff.

Back.

Bark.

Bask.

Bank.

Balk.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Had to iron a skirt my wife just — well, what tense to use? sewed, had sewn, finished sewing, had finished sewing?

Matt Эллен

Why aren't all books published in recent times now eBooks? What is taking publisher so long?

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 sued

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Thank you for your help!

Also had to do stuff I couldn't quite explain in any language.

Matt Эллен

any time!

6:11 PM

Mayb thy don't hav th lttr in thir font.

Sweden.

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 I flagged that.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Well, so long as it got done. that's the important thing.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Gigili And you've been with us for a whole of three seconds! That's a new record!

Matt Эллен

I want CGEL on my eReader. I don't want no DT format. Textbooks should all be in eBook format now.

(DT = Dead Tree)

Wow, someone's crotchety today. I could hear the quaver in your voice when you said that.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

6:13 PM

@MattЭллен I had to turn, um, a hose she had sued right side out?

Matt Эллен

Yes! I'm impatient

Well, what have you done to hasten the migration to ebooks?

Matt Эллен

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 you're right. not in any language.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

You jest but I really want to know.

Don't make me post an SWR.

cornbread ninja

ugh ebooks

peeves about ebooks

Matt Эллен

6:15 PM

@Robusto I've bought a reader. I've invested. That's how capitalism works, right? I give some money to some corporation and they're indentured to me?

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 These revelations about your personal life are embarrassing the people who don't speak any language. Please consider them before sharing.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 oh! sorry - then it's sewn

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Hose? Like pants?

@MattЭллен Pfft. You bought the cheapest Kindle you could find and you think there's an end on't?

I think he means like pantyhose.

Or socks.

Or stockings.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@KitFox she took a lengthy piece of cloth, then folded it in half, um, lengthwise, then sewed it together so it became a tube of sorts. Now, the seam was on the outside, so I had to turn it outside in. Which was impossible, I might add.

6:16 PM

@Robusto None of those make sense.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

It was like an inch across. When flat.

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Oh, yes. You turned it.

@KitFox And yet you only flagged "stockings" ... hmm.

cornbread ninja

your wife sounds very small.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

And like 1.5 feet long.

6:17 PM

Reg's wife is 1.5 feet long?

Not hose though, probably.

cornbread ninja

oh, you're not describing the skirt.

Sounds like a drawstring or something.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 there is a question (on Mathematics) that proves that it is mathematically possible

It's a lot easier if you use a safety pin.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

6:18 PM

@Robusto I must say you people in this chat are really helpful. Except Kit, of course.

Also, why would a card-carrying metricist describe something in feet rather than centimeters? We have to wonder.

Also, trim the seam down first.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@KitFox Yes! That's what she said when I was stuck halfway in, and couldn't go back nor forth.

At which point the seam started to, um, unseam itself.

Did you try a knitting needle or crochet hook?

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 We're not here not to help.

cornbread ninja

6:18 PM

how unseemly

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Really, I have to look every second word of this shit up.

Matt Эллен

169

Q: Why can you turn clothing right-side-out?

My nephew was folding laundry, and turning the occasional shirt right-side-out. I showed him a "trick" where I turned it right-side-out by pulling the whole thing through a sleeve instead of the bottom or collar of the shirt. He thought it was really cool (kids are easily amused, and so am I). ...

general-topology algebraic-topology

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Oh, you poor thing. I've had that happen before. It's very frustrating.

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 The second word of "this shit" is shit. QED.

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 unravel.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

6:20 PM

Makes sense now that you say it.

@Robusto Doesn't make sense now that you say it.

@KitFox But unravel means the same thing as ravel. You're just going to confuse him.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@KitFox so can we sum it up in a nice short sentence, the thing I did?

Um. No.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

"I just [X]ed a [Y]."

Something like that?

No?

Oh.

Did you let out a hem?

6:21 PM

You were turning a drawstring and it got stuck and started to unravel.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@KitFox thank you.

I think it must be a drawstring. What was it for?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

She says it was for her head.

A drawstring is what you have in sweatpants, not hats.

Matt Эллен

a snood?

6:22 PM

Hahahaha.

Hairnet?

Matt Эллен

no, I guess not a snood

I don't think snoods have been worn since the Titanic went down.

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 To close a hood? Or to wear like a hairband?

Matt Эллен

nay! snoods are back in fashion

@Robusto They were fashionable when I was in middle school!

6:23 PM

@KitFox Ah, you're right. The Titanic hadn't even been built at that point, right?

Matt Эллен

no bad voice, don't make me say it!

phew, Robusto did it

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Now she asks why the hell I have to ask. So I said, I'm trying to express myself in English. So she said, "ha, I can tell you all the English words you need". Then she pointed at the skirt and said, "pettycoat". Then she decided that that was it.

But seriously, where the eff did you go to Middle School?

Now let's not forget who is older than whom in this room.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@KitFox she says it's a ribbon to be worn around a babette.

6:24 PM

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Oh! Damn. pictures Reg's wife in just a petticoat

@KitFox Outside of this room I am younger than everyone. I only make up stories about being old so I will seem less intimidating.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Sorry I'm not making this shit up.

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Oh, OK.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

I don't even know who that Babette is.

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 I sew. I get it. It's OK.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

6:25 PM

She must be really skinny.

She might mean a slip then.

Or if it's the top it would be a camisole.

No. She meant petticoat.

A slip is completely different.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Well yeah I don't have spellings left.

Matt Эллен

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RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

That's the least of my troubles right now.

6:25 PM

But doesn't a petticoat hang from the shoulders, not the waist?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

In fact I am so confused right now I had to look up "seam" and the past participle of "sew", just to be sure.

@Robusto No.

Matt Эллен

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^That is a petticoat.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

That's what my wife said as well.

6:27 PM

Well. Petticoats.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Except that this one is to be worn under a ball dress.

I think this was @RegDwightB8's secret plan to emasculate The Incomprehensible Room. Look, we're posting pictures of chiffon and tulle.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Hers is to be worn all by itself.

Next it will be crinoline.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

In fact it has an, um underskirt? of sorts itself.

6:27 PM

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 That'd be the crinoline probably.

Matt Эллен

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I know, why don't you put the garment on the bed, take a picture, and upload it.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Robusto hey we already covered the distance between Mianus and Uranus earlier today. Do not complain.

And yes, underskirt.

Look, you've got Matt jumping through hoops to answer this question.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

6:28 PM

@KitFox no. not a crinoline. We've been there last Halloween if you remember.

This one is just a simple underskirt.

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 I was on hiatus.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Robusto I did ping you.

2 hours ago, by RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Robusto it's a long way from Mianus to Uranus. 1.86 billion miles, to be precise.

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Is it made of tulle?

Who reads your ... etc.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@KitFox she says the Russian word is fatin. Or kiseya.

She also says I can refer to it as a net.

6:30 PM

So probably tulle then.

That's a stiffish netting.

you can call this whole thing a net.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@KitFox no, expressly not tulle.

Frequently used for underskirts to make them poofy.

Matt Эллен

Тюль (ткань)

Тюль ( от — город Тюль, департамент Коррез, Франция) — лёгкая прозрачная сетчатая гладкая или узорчатая ткань (хлопчатобумажная, полушёлковая и др.). Гладкий тюль вырабатывается из двух систем нитей на тюлевых машинах; он используется для изготовления и отделки женского платья и белья, а также штучных изделий (сеток, вышивок и т. д.). Тюль узорчатый, или гардинный, вырабатывается на гардинных или кружевных машинах (см. Кружево) и применяется для занавесей, покрывал, накидок и др. Тюль в литературе и искусстве * Повесть М. А. Вилинской-Маркович (Марко Вовчок) 1861 года на русском яз...

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Wiki sez kiseya is the same as muslin.

6:30 PM

Lace?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Wife says, she's not entirely sure if muslin is the same thing because she's not quite sure what muslin is.

It's a rough cotton.

can't believe we've spent half an hour talking about Reg's wife's underwear

I can. I think it is great.

I need to go do something manly now. Thanks a lot.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

6:32 PM

She says tulle would work as well, or organza, whatever that is.

organza

Also netting.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Hey you're in stereo with my wife.

@KitFox Otherwise known as tat-for-tit.

I can't fathom what it is, if not one of those. Muslin could be, but it's not net.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@KitFox well netting is probably the word, then. Because it really is a fine nylon net of sorts.

6:33 PM

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 But that sounds like tulle, and you said it is not that.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@KitFox I didn't say that. I said she said.

Basically right now I'm a human interface between your computer and my wife.

Matt Эллен

ok, I know this is a technology solution to a language problem, but what if you put the Russian spelling into wiki, then pick the English version?

Oh. Google Translate says kiseya is "gauze."

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@KitFox that reminds me of the German "Gaze"

Which, in Russian, would be "marlya".

Here's another technology solution to a language problem: reboot the whole conversation where it started to unravel.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

6:35 PM

Which is not the same thing.

You mean ravel?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Gaze you put on your wounds, for example.

I mean recursion.

cornbread ninja

bolero?

@KitFox Actually, no, I was thinking of Debussy.

Meta-jinx.

cornbread ninja

6:36 PM

o.O

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Yeah, it is the same word in English, but can also describe a certain kind of fabric.

I will think of the name...

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@KitFox well it sure as hell is very similar. But nylon.

cornbread ninja

superman will save us!

like construction netting?

"Mull" maybe? Damn.

cornbread ninja

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6:37 PM

@Matt: Getting back to the eBook thing ... I'm already on my 5th Kindle, and I've bought a few as presents, too. Get in the war, man!

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@KitFox Mull in German is the same as Gaze.

Again, I don't think it's intended for sewing.

user19161

@cornbreadninja Nah, my vocab is less than 18k words as seen from testyourvocab.com, so I can't save you.

cornbread ninja

5th kindle!

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Now let me look up fatin.

Yep.

Latest is Kindle Fire.

Matt Эллен

6:38 PM

@Robusto I'm avoiding Kindle due to the ability of Amazon to delete books at will. But I've purchased a Sony PRS-T1, which seems nice

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Kit here's a picture. Approved by wife.

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@MattЭллен A rookie move. Sony will just put a root kit on your machine.

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Chiffon!

cornbread ninja

@Robusto, have any failed?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Robusto wife sez, you're a chiffon.

Matt Эллен

@Robusto perhaps. They are a calamity of marketing mistakes

6:39 PM

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 That's funny, coming from her.

@Robusto That's got to be it.

Still. Looks like tulle to me.

cornbread ninja

chiffon is like taffeta

@cornbreadninja Are you asking me if any chiffons have failed? Probably.

cornbread ninja

IIRC

@Robusto, kindles

Matt Эллен

Шифон?

cornbread ninja

6:40 PM

specifically your kindles

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@KitFox we have the word chiffon in Russian, and there it does not mean the same thing.

Here's a picture of what chiffon is to Russians:

@cornbreadninja No, but I accidentally threw one into the trash. True story.

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Yeah, that looks more chiffon-y.

Crêpe?

cornbread ninja

@Robusto, yikes.

crepe is wrinkly

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Chiffon. You tell me how those things are different. And even if they are, I don't care.

6:42 PM

Hers is thicker and stiffer.

Matt Эллен

lol

But I agree

@cornbreadninja I had the Kindle 1.0, the 2.0, the 3.0 (twice) and the Kindle Fire.

@KitFox Wait, her what is thicker and stiffer?

Her gauze.

cornbread ninja

her yardage

wait.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@KitFox crepe is closer to chiffon, she says.

cornbread ninja

6:43 PM

does one buy fabric by the yard in the UK?

By which yard? Scotland Yard?

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 That's true. Crinklier than chiffon though.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Robusto well yeah, You tell me. I only have one jeans and one pair of shoes and the rest is girly stuff.

Hawt.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

I no rite

Matt Эллен

6:45 PM

@cornbreadninja probably

although we might have to sell it in metres

cornbread ninja

._.

Matt Эллен

EU regulations and such

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@MattЭллен wow you measure in yards but sell in metres? What a ripoff!

I think in some parts of Texas, notably Houston, they have to sell fabric in acres.

Matt Эллен

it's what causes the financial burden we are all under

cornbread ninja

6:46 PM

I wouldn't buy any fabric by scotland yard. 's probably a setup.

Well, I guess we have soemthing called fatin, but I don't think I've ever heard of it before.

In Houston, if a dress doesn't come with a rain fly it's labeled "petite."

u funneh man!

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This will crepe you out. Chiffon-crepe combo.

Just the thought of that feels ugly on my skin.

6:49 PM

@KitFox i no rite

cornbread ninja

yes.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@KitFox actually I find it quite amazing right now how many different names for clothes there are in English that they also have in German and Russian. I do wonder where this uniformity comes from. Were we talking about mushrooms or fish, or really even maths, it wouldn't work like that at all.

cornbread ninja

I bet that's a bitch to work with

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 You mean clothes or fabrics?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Fabrics, yes.

6:50 PM

It is rather interesting.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

I no rite. And it's not like they are all from the same source.

Maybe because fashion has always been so multicultural?

Matt Эллен

hey @Kit - is this of interest to you?

1

Q: What is the standard way to analyze EEG data in an MMN paradigm?

I'm running an EEG experiment using a modified auditory MMN design, and I'm wondering if anyone can tell me the best method for data analysis (and recommend any stats programs/packages for this purpose as well). The experiment will only have a few (6-8) subjects with a high number of trials pe...

methodology experimental-psychology software statistics

Speaking of fabric, the fabric of time is telling me that it is beginning to ravel/unravel and that I must now go do something to convince my employer I am employable. Ta!

Oh!

@Robusto Bai!

Matt Эллен

6:51 PM

C ya Robusto

cornbread ninja

g'day

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

CU

Shit. I might've been able to answer that ten years ago.

Matt Эллен

heh. I know the feeling. I have forgotten so much

Of course, the technology is all different now anyway.

Matt Эллен

6:52 PM

true

I'll have you know that today marks the first day I have ever taken Midol.

Matt Эллен

is that like paracetamol?

And I took it because it had tylenol in it.

Not because I'm PMSy.

cornbread ninja

@KitFox, did you ever try women's tylenol?

@MattЭллен Yes, plus some other stuff.

Matt Эллен

6:53 PM

I see

@cornbreadninja I think that's the same thing.

cornbread ninja

@KitFox, I never liked midol. WT was great, but short-lived, which then made it scary.

It's got tylenol, caffeine, and something that i would guess makes women chill the f-ck out.

cornbread ninja

panabrom

IIRC

Matt Эллен

@cornbreadninja wikipedia says that's in the "Teen" formulation

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

6:55 PM

tylenol, caffeine, antihistamine, accordring to wikipedia

cornbread ninja

what I'd like to see is women's valium.

Pyrilamine maleate.

@cornbreadninja Valium is for everyone.

cornbread ninja

@Matt, interesting.

@KitFox, not OTC it isn't :D

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Oh, that's funny. Makes you drowsy so you don't bite.

cornbread ninja

a little smattering of it with some acetaminophen would be nice

6:57 PM

Although it's got anticholinergic properties too.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@KitFox yeah but oddly the caffeine is there to counteract that

So essentially, smoking a cigarette.

cornbread ninja

caffeine worsens things, though

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

And I've done "caffeine" + "drowsy" before and that means "cranky" for me, because I can't sleep but want to.

caffeine can help tylenol absorption and also acts as a diuretic

it's a pretty useful drug

Yeah, I wasn't excited about 60mg of caffeine.

But I was soooo achy.

And I am pretty sure I had a fever.

cornbread ninja

6:59 PM

:\

far be it from me to knock caffeine

shows you demitasse tattoo

@KitFox, do you feel better or is it too soon to tell?

I do feel a little better.

Less achy for sure.

Matt Эллен

BBL

cornbread ninja

TTFN

ttyl

cornbread ninja

@Matt, I like your new gravatar btw

7:09 PM

@Reg So is she going to a party in her pretty skirt?

And what is the overskirt made of?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@KitFox she's out of the door this very moment.

I miss having the time to sew.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@KitFox some flowery stuff. They are having a 50s-themed party. The pattern is not really 50s, but it's the best we could find.

cornbread ninja

@KitFox, I wish I could

I bought a 60s laundry bag a few days ago and will attempt to turn it into a skirt

Skirts are easy.

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 And how come you don't go?

Are you a pariah?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

7:14 PM

Nah. It's a, um, society? association? club? of sorts. I'm not really part of that crowd. Though I do know many of them.

So...not much fun for you?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

I don't really like parties to begin with. And certainly not when most if the people there I just don't know.

You could pretend you don't speak English.

Oh wait. That probably wouldn't help.

You could pretend you only speak English.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

I do that often enough in this chat.

If anything, I spend too much time pretending that.

I am surprised you are not much of a party-goer.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

7:17 PM

I used to be when I was young. But now I don't see a point.

cornbread ninja

how young?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

0

Q: Citing in a paper: one citation for two paragraphs?

I'm not sure if this stackexchange-site also includes scientific writing, but I guess it is the best site to post my question at, so I'll give it a try. I'm writing a short paper on macroeconomics; the professor gave us two tries, I submitted the first try, and now got my feedback. The feedback...

Writers?

@cornbreadninja late teens?

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Well, I don't suppose there is a point if you are not drinking, honing your wit, or getting laid.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Here's that video of a robot expressing emotion through its buttocks that you wanted.

That's why I stopped going to parties anyway.

@MrShinyandNew安宇 WTF?

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 We should probably ask @Neil. I'll post it over in the Writers chat?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

7:25 PM

someone needs to combine that robot with the japanese videogame where the object is to stick a robot finger into a prosthetic ass.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@KitFox if he's there, be his guest.

what the hell, people

Hi @JSB! waves cheerily

emoting robot butts?

hi @Kit. i think you are relatively sane

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@JSBᾶngs it's Mr's shiny and new ass.

7:27 PM

@JSBᾶngs me? what gave you that idea?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 I got it from Ben Goldacre

@KitFox you're not posting robot butts

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

the Bad Science guy

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@MrShinyandNew安宇 With that name he probably had other shit to sell, too.

uhoh I just felt the caffeine catch up with me

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

7:28 PM

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 He wrote a book called "Bad Science", it's really good. I recommend it.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@MrShinyandNew安宇 why didn't he call it Good Science, then?

Or Recommended Science, at the very least.

He's risking poor reviews.

yesterday, by RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

> I'm afraid I can't give you much of a review, as this book is a gift for my brother, who requested it. Although, from just glancing at it, I was not impressed.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 because he's reporting on examples of bad science and explaining why the "science" used was "bad'

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Then he should call it Good Examples of Bad Science.

Or Good Book about Bad Science.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 He could call it that. But also his newspaper column, which is the basis of the book's content, was also called "bad science"

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Oh my.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

7:32 PM

so, branding trumps satisfying Reg

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

It's not about satisfying me. It's about satisfying Amazon reviewers.

I'm just helping. I can stop anytime.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

It has pretty good reviews on Amazon

so there.

I could satisfy you all at once.

Oh.

Was that too much?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

17 one-star reviews.

> How arrogant a book. The title itself has a condesending tone with goldacre implying that he only practises science that is good.

So there.

I mean, QED.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

"17 one-star reviews" doesn't mean anything other than 17 people in the whole world bothered to write a bad review.

7:40 PM

chops acres of codez

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@MrShinyandNew安宇 yeah, as in there are millions others who didn't bother to write a bad review.

(Someone help me and explain to Mr Shiny what a joke is. I'm suffering.)

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

You're suffering? I'm the one listening to someone make really poor jokes!

If only we had some boobs to lighten the mood.

Or lightning the mood?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

robotic boobs?

I don't like my boobs talking.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

7:46 PM

does that ever happen?

Well, mine don't.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

my kids would sometimes try and talk while breastfeeding. that's almost the same thing.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

This is all... very confusing.

What are the chances that I coded this correctly the first time?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Seven.

7:52 PM

Wow. That actually worked.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

See. Lucky number slevin.

sieben

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Auch gut.

I think I will update the styles on my entry page and call it a day.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

That's an odd thing to call a page.

7:55 PM

...actually, this looks much too complicated to frig with on a Friday afternoon.

considers

F-ck it. I'm leaving. See you all next week or later or something!

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Oh noes! Next week? That's a long time.

Have fun.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

bye

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