English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

@aediaλ It sounds very odd. Pronouncing hand and tail like diphthongs sounds like hardcore southern (or maybe just rural) US to me; the rest sounds like a mixture between British and standard American and some bits I can't categorize. Certainly not like a natural accent in any language, and it isn't really supposed to.

N3buchadnezzar

Wake up at 5.30 and study

kiamlaluno

I guess zzzzz is the last word in the dictionary.

Cerberus

Ouch, good luck!

N3buchadnezzar

12:43 AM

Ive had freakin exams for one month now, 4 of them, last one tomorow!

it sucks!

4+1=5

kiamlaluno

The good news is that it is the last one.

Imagine to return back in the past, and do all of them again.

Why do I hear the "Twin Peaks" music?

user19161

@kiamlaluno Because you have ears.

user19161

@N3buchadnezzar Correct! Now you should go to bed.

N3buchadnezzar

niZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

kiamlaluno

@JasperLoy Yes, but I don't have iTunes on, nor am I listening to music.

That means somebody is watching Twin Peaks. (I hope not!)

Most importantly, why the hell is anybody listening to music at this hour?

user19161

12:55 AM

@kiamlaluno Because they are lunatic, like me.

kiamlaluno

@JasperLoy Is it valid even if there isn't full moon?

user19161

@kiamlaluno Hehe, yes I am always lunatic.

kiamlaluno

It doesn't come from outside.

user19161

Speaking of which, Chinese New Year should not be called Lunar New Year.

user19161

Because it depends on the sun as well as the moon.

kiamlaluno

12:57 AM

They are not the usual drug-young people.

@JasperLoy It sounds like what happens with the calendar we use in Italy.

user19161

@kiamlaluno Don't you use the usual calendar there? You mean Italy has a special one?

kiamlaluno

By the way, why do they call it Lunar New Year?

@JasperLoy It's the usual one, but I was not sure about how to say "occidental calendar."

I don't recall if it is the Gregorian calendar, or what.

Actually, I don't recall it right now, at 1:30 am my time.

user19161

@kiamlaluno You should go to bed too.

user19161

My job in chat is to tell people when it is their bedtime.

kiamlaluno

I should, if I were a normal person.

user19161

1:01 AM

And to tell them to eat their vitamins.

user19161

And to be faithful to their spouses.

user19161

@kiamlaluno So you are abnormal, like me.

kiamlaluno

That is… uhmmm… awful. Why would you eat your vitamins? Did they do anything bad against you?

I am save for that side: I don't have any spouse.

user19161

@kiamlaluno I thought you are getting married soon?

kiamlaluno

@JasperLoy In my dreams, I could.

user19161

1:03 AM

@kiamlaluno You mentioned you were engaged before?

kiamlaluno

But as they say, "illusions never change into something real."

user19161

Hola @aedia! You are here at a weird time today.

aedia λ

@Cerb So you don't imagine I sound like that? That's a relief ;)

kiamlaluno

@JasperLoy Yep. That is what I said.

aedia λ

Hola!

user19161

1:04 AM

@kiamlaluno And you still are I suppose?

aedia λ

Checking in while commuting.

user19161

@aediaλ I was thinking the girl behind the unicorn might be you after all. There is some resemblance.

kiamlaluno

@JasperLoy I consider myself engaged. The problem is that to be engaged, also the other person should consider herself engaged.

user19161

@kiamlaluno It sounds bad. Just make sure it is the right person before you get married.

aedia λ

There is no girl behind the unicorn! It's unicorns all the way down!

kiamlaluno

1:06 AM

@JasperLoy I was sure.

user19161

@aediaλ I am referring to a photo you posted a few days ago, hehe.

kiamlaluno

The problem is when those two people are not even in the same place.

user19161

@kiamlaluno I noticed you used the past tense.

aedia λ

@Jasper I don't even remember it, so I'm pretty sure it's not of me.

user19161

@kiamlaluno Ah then it is difficult to maintain a long-distance relationship. For me I think I will be single.

aedia λ

1:08 AM

Aww, distance is really hard.

user19161

@aediaλ Hmm OK. I can see you are on your android now as you do not use the right arrow.

kiamlaluno

@JasperLoy That is weird. I would use the present tense, when I say sono nato il 18 marzo.

user19161

@aediaλ It is not if two people are truly madly deeply in love with each other, but that is very rare.

kiamlaluno

Imagine when you are having lunch, and your most significant one is having dinner.

user19161

@kiamlaluno Hmm I think you should think about your future with this person carefully then and take the right step.

kiamlaluno

1:11 AM

I usually start with the right step.

(It's a play on words; pretend you understood it.)

user19161

@kiamlaluno I write with my left hand.

aedia λ

@Jasper I dunno. I love my husband but being at a distance would just plain be a strain on a relationship; people grow and change together through shared experiences, and it's difficult to forge a partnership away from each other.

kiamlaluno

I would write with my left hand, but I was forced to write with the right one.

user19161

@kiamlaluno Sad.

kiamlaluno

I have been told, "No, that is not the right hand."

user19161

1:12 AM

@kiamlaluno told

kiamlaluno

I like better "said"; after all, I have my strange style.

user19161

@kiamlaluno Don't let people tell you anything anymore, just believe in yourself!

user19161

►

kiamlaluno

That is funny: My first nickname I have ever used was X-files.

aedia λ

Oh it's so sad when lefties are forced to write the other way! That happened to my grandmother.

user19161

1:15 AM

@aediaλ Your president is also a leftie.

kiamlaluno

One of the avatars I used in a chat program had the written, "I want to believe."

aedia λ

Mmhmm.

user19161

@aediaλ Leftie reminds me of quickie, hehe.

kiamlaluno

Then, for a short time, I used TDS.

user19161

@kiamlaluno What is TDS?

kiamlaluno

1:16 AM

Then, I passed to Xenophaw, Kiam, and kiamlaluno.

Cerberus

@aediaλ Of course I imagined your saying tay-uhl for tail.

aedia λ

The Death star?

kiamlaluno

@JasperLoy It's "The Dark Side."

user19161

@aediaλ Very clever!

aedia λ

Three dragon shouts?

Oh.

kiamlaluno

1:17 AM

I guess I was thinking of "The Dark Side of the Moon."

user19161

@kiamlaluno Of the force.

user19161

@Cerberus Still having sleep problems? It may be a side-effect of something more serious.

kiamlaluno

@JasperLoy I think The Pink Floyd didn't sing that. :-)

user19161

Hmm, where is Mahnax today?

kiamlaluno

The Dark Side of the Moon

}} The Dark Side of the Moon is the eighth studio album by English progressive rock band Pink Floyd, released in March 1973. It built on ideas explored in the band's earlier recordings and live shows, but lacks the extended instrumental excursions that characterised their work following the departure in 1968 of founding member, principal composer and lyricist, Syd Barrett. The Dark Side of the Moons themes include conflict, greed, the passage of time and mental illness, the latter partly inspired by Barrett's deteriorating mental state. The suite was developed during live performanc...

user19161

1:20 AM

@kiamlaluno Ah I see, there is madness involved. Appropriate for me.

user19161

@N3buchadnezzar Are you still studying?

kiamlaluno

@JasperLoy I have never listened to the album. It was the title to seem more appropriate as nickname.

user19161

@kiamlaluno Kiamlaluno sounds like a soft drink.

user19161

@aediaλ Have you eaten dinner?

kiamlaluno

@JasperLoy I was referring to TDS; you said that about kiamlaluno.

user19161

1:26 AM

@kiamlaluno I know, I brought in another topic.

aedia λ

@Cerb Dawg, you needa chillax afer chasin all dose tayuhls, o you gonna get destructicated. Ya wanna glassa wahduh?

kiamlaluno

I like better kiamlaluno.

user19161

@kiamlaluno I did not know that Alain Pannetier means Iranian baker so is not his real name probably.

kiamlaluno

@JasperLoy Oh, I thought it was a real name.

Now that you say that, pannetier sounds like the Italian word for baker.

I would guess it's a French word.

user19161

@kiamlaluno And Robusto is a cigar brand. I am still not sure about Yoichi Oishi.

kiamlaluno

1:29 AM

Robusto in Italian means somebody who is "large."

Well, you could use it to mean something else, but when referred to a person, it means with a little of extra-weight.

user19161

@kiamlaluno Like the english word robust.

kiamlaluno

@JasperLoy It seems so.

aedia λ

I have not eaten, but about to get home. Delirium pretty much has set in at this point.

kiamlaluno

Delirium tremens?

aedia λ

I wish!

kiamlaluno

1:31 AM

I see narwhals. Does that mean anything?

user19161

@kiamlaluno It means you are lunatic like me.

aedia λ

There may be bacon on the horizon?

kiamlaluno

I dunno: My side of the horizon is dark.

@JasperLoy That is easy to be said, for who uses kiamlaluno as nickname.

user19161

@kiamlaluno I know it is in esperanto but what does it mean?

kiamlaluno

@JasperLoy It means, "when the moon."

aedia λ

1:34 AM

Home! Catch y'all on the flip side.

kiamlaluno

Moon, lunatic, luna, moon...

user19161

@kiamlaluno Ah I see. Good!

kiamlaluno

I cannot render the gesture I do with my hand between the words.

It's nothing to worry about: It's just the gesture to mean the words are linked.

Don't look now, but instead of narwhals I see an owl.

user19161

@kiamlaluno I see an owl too.

kiamlaluno

If the narwhal would take bacon, what would an owl take?

user19161

1:37 AM

@kiamlaluno Mice.

kiamlaluno

I hope marshmallows.

I will ask my sons if they want mice.

(They seem not.)

user19161

@kiamlaluno Hmm I did not know you had children.

kiamlaluno

Now there is a fox.

@JasperLoy Did you hear any reply from them?

user19161

@kiamlaluno No.

kiamlaluno

That is right.

It can happen just in two cases.

user19161

1:39 AM

@kiamlaluno Now you are confusing me.

Kitḫ

I feel a bit annoyed by this comment, since the diagram clearly marks it as vesting.

kiamlaluno

Let's say three cases.

user19161

@Kitḫ The one by Ben?

Kitḫ

8

A: What is the technical term for the area within a fort?

I think this area is called a bailey. A bailey can refer to the courtyard or the defensive wall that surrounds it. Or it might be considered a ward, since it is inside the curtain walls. And apparently, a ward and a bailey are the same thing. Or it seems that it can be called a parade ground, ...

Hmm.

Why is that not linking properly?

Yes, the one by Ben.

kiamlaluno

@JasperLoy I don't have kids; that is why I cannot hear any reply from them.

You could think they are sleeping, or they are not home. Those are not my case, though.

Curtain walls explains an expression used in Italian.

The owl is still looking at me.

user19161

1:47 AM

@kiamlaluno Then who are your sons?

kiamlaluno

@JasperLoy Nobody.

Now, I am not using "Nobody" as Ulysses did.

user19161

@kiamlaluno Then what did you mean when you said I will ask my sons if they want mice.

kiamlaluno

Well, I could say something else, but there is just a person who would know of the joke about "our sons."

user19161

@kiamlaluno Now you are being cryptic like JLO.

kiamlaluno

@JasperLoy Well, that could easy. As nobody is my son, nobody wants mice.

user19161

1:51 AM

@kiamlaluno Now you are just MSU.

user19161

Every time I answer brilliant's question, he will say Wow!

user19161

1

Q: What adjective would be suitable here to describe the difference between two doctrinal stances of the two religious groups?

What adjective would be suitable here to describe the difference between two doctrinal stances of the two religious groups? ... Well, as the matter of fact, neither "Mormons" nor "Jehovah's witnesses" are Christians even though both of them claim that they are following Jesus Christ's foo...

word-choice

kiamlaluno

The full history is that we were going to Canada, and we stopped to eat something. A label on the wall said, "turkey for 1 dollar," to which she said, "hell, for a dollar, I buy it quickly."

user19161

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Q: What's the difference between "It won't be soon" and "It won't be soon enough"?

I have heard this expression "It won't be soon enough" quite often, in fact more often than simply "It won't be soon". I wonder if the word "enough" in the first one adds some additional meaning to the phrase. I haven't been able to detect any difference in meaning between the two. Perhaps I am...

meaning

kiamlaluno

Then, she said, "but we are going in Canada, and you cannot take a turkey with you."

At that I said, "Well, we can say it's our son."

At the end, that one-dollar turkey was just a post card with a turkey drawn on it.

user19161

1:54 AM

@kiamlaluno Cheese and rice!

user19161

Ham and bacon!

kiamlaluno

The joke is still on since then.

user19161

Cheese and rice stands for JC and Ham and bacon stands for HB.

user19161

The two exclamations Reg used.

kiamlaluno

@JasperLoy What do JC and HB stand for?

user19161

1:55 AM

@kiamlaluno Jesus Christ and Holy Buddha.

kiamlaluno

Amen.

user19161

Hallelujah.

user19161

Who downvoted the religious question? It's not that bad.

user19161

I feel the downvotes are getting a bit extreme these days.

user19161

I got 7 downvotes last week alone.

user19161

1:59 AM

Hello @mrs hiny!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Hello

user19161

@MrShinyandNew安宇 You are also here at a weird time today or maybe I'm the one.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

How are you today jas?

Yeah I'm not usually on at this time.

And I'm on mobile so I don't know how to use the reply feature

user19161

@MrShinyandNew安宇 I'm not sure what the mobile interface is like but usually people using mobile like aedia and simchona don't use the right arrow at all.

user19161

I know aedia is using android and simchona iphone.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

2:05 AM

Well there is no arrow, no flag, no stars

user19161

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Ah I see. They usually just use @ directly if they want.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Jasper yeah but it doesn't autocomplete

user19161

And I always tell people not to chat on phone because it spoils their eyesight and is also dangerous if they are crossing the road.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Nah, I'm pretty sure it won't hurt my eyes. But I am sitting down so you can rest assured that I'm not going to get squashed by a wayward vehicle.

user19161

Are you on your way home?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

2:10 AM

I'm home. But my wife is using the computer

user19161

Ah I see. It is more of the motion that spoils the eyesight.

user19161

Aedia usually uses phone when she is bussing home like just now.

user19161

@kiamlaluno Are you still awake?

kiamlaluno

@JasperLoy Yes, I am.

I am trying a little experiment.

user19161

@kiamlaluno And still hearing music?

kiamlaluno

2:13 AM

No, I am not.

I guess that who was listening it is already sleeping.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

funny I just switched to the desktop browser and @JasperLoy's last 4 ping messages are still sitting here unacknowledged

kiamlaluno

The person at the floor behind me has problems to sleep.

user19161

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Because you did not use the right arrow.

user19161

@kiamlaluno Behind or below? How can the floor be behind?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@JasperLoy No on the desktop after you send a single message it clears all pings

user19161

2:16 AM

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Then maybe it will be so after a refresh.

kiamlaluno

@JasperLoy If I lay with my back on the floor, the other floor is behind me.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

wow I was actually able to successfully click on a flagged message!

user19161

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Huh? I did not get any.

user19161

@kiamlaluno Very clever.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@JasperLoy probably why I was able to click it

anyway, gotta run

kiamlaluno

2:29 AM

@JasperLoy Is it clever to say I am not clever, or is it clever to say I am clever?

Cerberus

@JasperLoy Wow, weird.

I haven't answered many questions of late, and I haven't got many down-votes.

Perhaps it would be different if I answered more questions now.

user19161

@Cerberus There are many weird things in this world.

user19161

@kiamlaluno Both sound clever.

kiamlaluno

2:44 AM

@JasperLoy A clever man knows not to be clever.

user19161

@Cerberus Essentially people are not happy with my word request answers, which I always stress are not meant to be perfect matches.

user19161

It's like love: it's good if you find a perfect match, but it seldom happens, so it is good enough if we find a good match.

user19161

Some people think that whatever conditions the OP comes up with there is a perfect match...

user19161

So if there are ten conditions and I match 9 they downvote, silly.

user19161

Which is why I am beginning to think that some people think I don't know what I'm talking about, even though I admit I'm not an English expert.

user19161

2:49 AM

But I might be more of an expert than some of the others who call themselves experts.

user19161

/rant

user19161

@kiamlaluno Clever people often do not make much money in life, it is cunning people who do.

user19161

And because they make a lot of money they think they are clever, but actually they're just plain stupid.

kiamlaluno

@JasperLoy Im my case, I don't have neither of those things.

user19161

@kiamlaluno Are you playing a game with the others in the other room?

kiamlaluno

2:55 AM

@JasperLoy No, I am not playing games. Why?

user19161

@kiamlaluno Just wondering. I know there is some game going on somewhere.

Cerberus

@JasperLoy Yeah I never answer those questions, ever.

user19161

@Cerberus But I must also add that these also get me the most upvotes.

user19161

@Cerberus I feel like eating your delicious food!

user19161

4:05 AM

6 zombies.

N3buchadnezzar

4:38 AM

I am alive

!

user19161

@N3buchadnezzar Yay!

N3buchadnezzar

Woke up 5:30 to do math

yay

user19161

4:59 AM

@N3buchadnezzar Last paper today?

N3buchadnezzar

Indeed

Luckilly my brain focuses really well under the examsn

Like my brain is saying "Shit just got real" and starts doing math, I did not know I remember.

user19161

@N3buchadnezzar Good luck, and enjoy the hols after that.

N3buchadnezzar

I WILL

Chicks and boose and apartai

user19161

6:05 AM

@mahnax Boo!

Mahnax

@JasperLoy Hi!

user19161

@Mahnax Just returned from work?

Mahnax

@JasperLoy Yes.

user19161

@Mahnax Good good. I guessed you had lots of delicious food during the weekend visit.

Mahnax

@JasperLoy Hm, somewhat.

user19161

6:09 AM

What was the Finn comment about?

user19161

You mean Finnish don't joke at all?

Mahnax

@JasperLoy Finnish males do not smile much, and they are always very serious.

@JasperLoy Pretty much. Except when they're drunk, which happens a lot.

user19161

@Mahnax OMG that is news to me.

Mahnax

@JasperLoy Yup. Very stoic people, they are.

user19161

@Mahnax I would think it's because it's so cold and they want to preserve body heat!

user19161

6:10 AM

@Mahnax I am very giggly as commented, a giggly nerd!

Mahnax

@JasperLoy Haha, very nice.

@JasperLoy Giggly isn't bad.

user19161

@Mahnax Reminds me of Gigili! We will give him a virtual magic camera the next time he comes to chat!

Mahnax

@JasperLoy Ah yes!

We will give him the website!

user19161

@Mahnax John Lawler keeps saying vote to close even though he can't do it himself yet.

Mahnax

Some background info for the comic I'm about to share; Finns are serious, the coat of arms looks like a retarded lion, and they are very proud of hockey.

satwcomic.com/proud-finland

@JasperLoy I know, it makes me laugh inside.

user19161

6:15 AM

@Mahnax I see you have done about 90 edits, only 1000 less than me.

Mahnax

@JasperLoy only

Pfft.

Copy Editor x2.

Except you can only get it once.

user19161

@Mahnax I read your SE post, I just wrote one on love.

Mahnax

@JasperLoy Hmm, I shall read it.

@JasperLoy Deep.

user19161

@Mahnax Hey are you sure you can read so fast? I think you're nuts!

Mahnax

@JasperLoy I read it and processed it completely in that time.

@JasperLoy I read the Lord of the Rings books in one day.

I have slowed a little in the past few years, mostly because I do not read as much now.

user19161

6:19 AM

@Mahnax I guess I could if I really needed to but I would not be able to appreciate it artistically.

user19161

We need to eat delicious food slowly...

Mahnax

@JasperLoy I fully appreciate it; it really does look at things from a different viewpoint, perhaps not a wholly liked or understood one, but it's important.

@JasperLoy This is true!

user19161

@Mahnax Then your mind works in strange ways, like mine. So all the more you must take care of it, because geniuses become lunatics more easily.

user19161

@Mahnax I still have one can of abalone, nom nom!

user19161

Well, I learnt nom nom from you...

Mahnax

6:22 AM

@JasperLoy I am very thankful for the mind I have been given. Sometimes my aptness to understand things causes me to frustrate others though. It is one of the reasons that people my age do not much like me.

@JasperLoy Hmm, care to share any?

user19161

@Mahnax gives you entire can

Mahnax

@JasperLoy munches contentedly on delicious seafood

user19161

@Mahnax Maybe it's not that they don't like you, just that they feel you are very different, in a positive manner perhaps.

user19161

But you would know better of course.

Mahnax

@JasperLoy Hmm, the constant strange looks, insults, etc. would say otherwise, but none of those things bother me.

user19161

6:25 AM

@Mahnax Maybe the looks are the kind "OMG he's so cute"!

Mahnax

@JasperLoy Hah, no

I am not a very attractive Matthew.

Not hideous, not beautiful. Somewhere in between.

user19161

@Mahnax I think you look quite good, at least from what I saw.

Mahnax

@JasperLoy Thank you. I cannot return the compliment, since I have not yet seen you.

user19161

@Mahnax But I am also aware how people can look very different in real life, and also from different angles and on different days.

user19161

You should be going to bed soon.

Mahnax

6:30 AM

@JasperLoy I will not fall asleep for another 30 minutes, guaranteed. I am leaving the Internet in 5 minutes to watch an episode of my second favourite TV show, though.

user19161

@Mahnax OK what is your favourite?

Mahnax

@JasperLoy Favourite: Big Bang Theory, second: FMA Brotherhood.

user19161

@Mahnax I see. OK enjoy your TV and goodnight! I am going to sleep soon...

Mahnax

@JasperLoy Good night!

Hah, despite being in different time zones, we go to sleep at almost the same time.

Matt Эллен

11:54 AM

good day, fine chat folk!

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