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Mar 24, 2024 at 15:40, by Robusto
@user85795 Bertrand Russell was great. I've found his History of Western Philosophy to be a great primer that I've consulted all my life.
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I hope to find some clues in the Introduction (only 10 pages) of his History, which seems to contain the questions he wants to answer in the next 800 pages as well as some hints of his own thesis that no doubt he's gonna flesh out in those 800 pages.
To his credit, he writes well. My dad (no longer living) used to be influenced by his books and essays too (in his college years), so my perusing Russell's History is a way for me to try to relive some of his wonderings that led him to abandon the church.
But I think I'm in a much better position to detect some false narratives that may lurk in those pages, esp. that I'm now a few decades older than he was and more knowledgeable about the Bible and Christianity than he was. Years ago I skimmed through Russell's book Why I am not a Christian and found his Biblical exegesis flawed (i.e. attacking strawman).
Or I may be in for a surprise. You cannot be too careful when reading philosophy, history, or theology :-)
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@GratefulDisciple I don't necessarily agree with Enlightenment thinkers, though I may incline that way. I am more likely to believe that existence is a puzzle that is constantly in need of working out. It is the Sisyphean boulder we must, generation by generation, keep working at while watching it fall back to the bottom again and again.
If there's a single philosopher I resonate with, it's probably Santayana.
But even his boulder has rolled back time and again.
George Santayana (b. Jorge Agustín Nicolás Ruiz de Santayana y Borrás, December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) was a Spanish-American philosopher, essayist, poet, and novelist. Born in Spain, Santayana was raised and educated in the United States from the age of eight and identified as an American, yet always retained a valid Spanish passport. At the age of 48, he left his academic position at Harvard University and permanently returned to Europe; his last will was to be buried in the Spanish Pantheon in the Campo di Verano, Rome. As a philosopher, Santayana is known for aphorisms, such as "Those...
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@GratefulDisciple Aristotle is of course extremely influential and well-regarded by most modern philosophers; his ethical views have gained a lot more widespread acceptance over the past half-century or so.
@Robusto Finished reading the Introduction. No engagement with Aristotle / Aquinas at all, apart from being completely ignored as a solution to several false dilemmas he posed in the final 2 paragraphs. So it seems he's championing a certain objective form of libertarianism and liberalism (to avoid dogmatic oppression or subjective anarchy on the other hand); need to find out exactly what he means by that.
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@alphabet Yes, virtue ethics is gaining popularity these decades, and I heard (from a Thomist) that we're in an Aristotelian renaissance. That would be a solution to Russell's false dilemmas in those 2 paragraphs.
The issue is, of course, that Aristotle is very easy to misinterpret for non-specialists; you have to read quite a lot of the surviving corpus in order to fully make sense of things.
@alphabet That goes without saying. So one usually starts with trustworthy secondary sources. But in the age of Internet, one can always start with SEP.
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He uses a lot of technical terminology that his surviving works never explicitly define, and while he clearly has an overall project and consistent method, he never gives a complete explanation of it, so you have to stitch together bits and pieces from different works.
Yep, I was about to suggest the SEP article -- plato.stanford.edu/entries/aristotle
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@alphabet I'm not a specialist enough to do that, but through the secondary sources I begin to understand Aristotle's key concepts such as the 4 causes, intellect, happiness, virtues, etc.
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@GratefulDisciple I've read enough of his works in translation to have some idea, though that was long enough ago that I'm not sure I trust my memory of it.
@alphabet You're a brave man (or should I say raccoon :-) ). In my college days I foolishly tried to read Aristotle without much introduction and I didn't get much out of it.
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I don't see why one shouldn't start with lay secondary book such as Adler's Aristotle for Everybody or something more recent Aristotle: A Guide for the Perplexed.
My main problem with Aristotle is that he has a world view and thinks it is complete and perfect. He views the ideal environment for humanity as the polis, despite what may to us demonstrate its obvious imperfections. It affords the possibility of a good life for the few, and so forth.
@GratefulDisciple Fortunately I learned about him taking classes with a professor who's an expert on the subject. For the more foundational parts, we had a lot of reading assignments that were essentially collections of excerpts from different works, which helped make things make more sense.
What Should Be rather than What Is, I'd say sums it up.
Certainly Aristotle opposes the idea of a state that benefits only the few. He is certainly anti-woman and pro-slavery, though.

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