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YeZ
7:02 PM
@HodofHod It's freezing in here!
Is there a way to have the hyperlinked text be customized, or does it have to be some version of the call script?
 
@DannySchoemann That's in reply to this comment?
 
@YeZ That's what the u flag is for. [t Genesis 4:5 ur] = Genesis 4:5
 
@HodofHod I think he meant custom text.
 
YeZ
@Scimonster correct.
 
Not really. At that point, I usually just do [Random text](``[t ber 4])
 
YeZ
7:06 PM
like [t genesis 4:5 u "your text here for only $9.99!"] = [your text here for only $9.99!](link)
oh that works
no wait seems not to work.
 
@HodofHod How does that work? What do the double backticks do?
 
YeZ
oh i skipped the backticks
 
@YeZ Ignore those. That's just so the script wouldn't activate
 
YeZ
ya i figured that out
@HodofHod but it doesn't seem to work for me.
 
7:10 PM
[Random text](``[t ber 4])
 
[Random text]([t ber 4])
 
YeZ
in chat maybe. link
 
Use that
 
YeZ
OOOH i forgot to take out the u.
since I was working with an already entered script
worked.
thanks!
 
np. The custom text field is possible, but it would require a lot of rewriting for a small use case that's easily circumnavigated.
 
7:12 PM
I didn't realize it even works in chat
i'm opening the code
 
@Scimonster NOOOOOO!!!!
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;)
 
How come you have it running on all SE sites? I can't imagine ever using it on AskUbuntu or SuperUser, for example.
 
YeZ
@Scimonster I could've used it on English once had I had it.
 
@Scimonster ...I'm actually not sure.
 
YeZ
@HodofHod I'm all for work-arounds.
 
7:14 PM
@YeZ Oh? Where?
@HodofHod Perhaps it could come in use on Biblical Hermeneutics
 
YeZ
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Q: Literary term for referring to a future event in the story line

YeZIs there a literary term for when an author refers to something that is going to happen later? I am referring to two usages of this technique. The first is when an author says "as will be explained later" or some variation there-of. The second, which I am more interested in, is when the author...

 
"ABANDON ALL HOPE, YE WHO LIKE WELL-WRITTEN CODE. y'know. with standards 'n stuff. (Are there even standards for JavaScript? Oh well.)"
 
YeZ
and suddenly I get a mysterious upvote on that question...
 
@YeZ And i'm suddenly one vote closer to Civic Duty on English. ;)
 
YeZ
@Scimonster I actually asked that question so that I could ask:
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Q: Blatant foreshadowing in the Torah

YeZGenesis 13:10 has the following verse: ויישא-לוט את-עיניו, וירא את-כל-כיכר הירדן, כי כולה, משקה--לפני שחת יהוה, את-סדום ואת-עמורה, כגן-יהוה כארץ מצריים, בואכה צוער Translation of bold: because it was all well-watered before Hashem destroyed Sodom and Amora Are there any other places i...

 
7:18 PM
@Scimonster Yes, there are standards for JS. Basically, whatever w3schools says to do - don't do it.
@YeZ Sorry, no mysterious upvotes for you there. :)
 
@HodofHod By the way, I recently typed [X foo N.N u] (where X is an opus, foo is a book in that opus, and N and N are numbers), and it converted the dot to a colon.
 
YeZ
@Scimonster drat. I was waiting. :)
 
@YeZ Been there, done that. :P Answered too.
 
YeZ
@msh210 I loved that book!
 
@msh210 Yeah. It'll accept most punctuation, but it only outputs that standard.
 
7:21 PM
@HodofHod Ah, okay. I thought u was supposed to work on that also.
That's fine, though.
Tzt.
 
No :( One of the first thing the code does is split the reference into chunks, throwing away the separators. It's only much later that it gets reconstructed into the hyperlink.
 
I was just thinking you load jQuery in the userscript and then remembered that jQuery is loaded by default.
 
@Scimonster I already have Electorate, and I voted anyway. :-)
 
YeZ
@MonicaCellio I got more upvotes on that question in the past 8 minutes than in the 14 days since it was asked :)
 
@MonicaCellio I keep voting here on MY even though i have Electorate.
 
7:27 PM
@Scimonster I remember mentioning BH to Hod when he was writing this. I might be the only person who ever used it there, back when I participated there (which I don't any more), but that'd be a reason to not just restrict it to here.
 
.@MonicaCellio @Scimonster I think the reason might have been that at the time I just copied and pasted that top part from a different SE userscript. I don't seem to have the oldest version of the script anymore, so I'm not sure if it was always there or not.
 
@Scimonster there are, actually. At my last company my team was asked to do some JavaScript stuff, and we went looking for coding standards and conventions.
 
@HodofHod And if you're including all sites, you might as well just use *.so, so you don't lock out people using Portuguese.
@MonicaCellio Yeah, Google has a bunch of standards.
 
@Scimonster Don't forget Mozilla
 
@HodofHod I've never seen their list of standards.
 
@HodofHod And Crockford, of course.
 
@Scimonster I would hope so! (So do I.) I don't visit ELU as regularly as I once did, so my voting there is very erratic.
 
@Scimonster And they're the maintainers and developers of it, so.
 
@HodofHod I don't see standards there. Though MDN is a place i look at a bunch.
 
7:34 PM
@HodofHod probably the Hebrew keyboard. I definitely used that on BH.
 
YeZ
@MonicaCellio I found a lot of unwelcoming people there. I only went to ask questions but now only do it after my own research fails.
 
@YeZ Agreed 100%.
 
@Scimonster I guess I meant specifications, though I think their articles also include best practices sometimes (I think). And of course there's this: developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Developer_guide/…
 
@HodofHod I mean here
 
7:37 PM
@YeZ yeah, the mood on ELU changed a year or two back, and I found myself drifting away while they sorted out some churn, and then I went back later and wasn't really sure if I belonged there any more. Someday I'll spend more time looking around; I reached 10k there after all, so it's not like I'm uninterested. But there are other sites on the network to draw my attention. :-)
 
YeZ
@MonicaCellio Ya, you have to maintain your MY lead
 
@YeZ MY is back in second for her networkwiderep.
 
YeZ
@Scimonster If I had any rep there I'd go on a workplace downvoting spree. just kidding.
 
@YeZ Go on an MY upvoting spree. ;)
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@YeZ I slipped again; I answered a question on Workplace. And they're bigger and thus more vote-y than we are to begin with, so it was a tenuous situation even without that. My Mi Yodeya aspirations exceed my current abilities; there aren't enough questions I can answer. So, I take it as a challenge. :-)
 
7:42 PM
@Scimonster Did you ask this already?
in V'dibarta Bam, 43 mins ago, by Scimonster
@YeZ Because i have a feature request.
 
@MonicaCellio When trying to find questions for , i tried looking at your posts, but for some reason i didn't find too many. (Maybe i just didn't look hard enough.)
@HodofHod No. Now what was it again...
Oh yeah.
Could you add sefaria.org as a source?
 
@Scimonster I'll try to take a look later and see if there are questions I've participated on that should have that tag and currently lack it. I think there's a cluster of such questions (not just mine, but on the site in general) having to do with kashrut, so if you haven't looked there you might want to do so.
@Scimonster oh that's just wrong!
People might not notice the relative timestamps.
 
@MonicaCellio But funny nonetheless.
@MonicaCellio I intentionally left out the timestamp in order to show the message.
@MonicaCellio Nice idea. 2 of the top 5 deserve it. Now for the rest. :)
 
@Scimonster I've thought about, and @CharlesKoppelman even wrote code at one point to pull verse texts from there. But I'm still a bit nervous about how unpredictable it is.
 
@HodofHod Unpredictable in what way?
 
7:51 PM
@Scimonster Translations for one (though that's not such a problem for Tanach). There was also a couple weeks where Bereishis 18 was just inaccessible. I don't have any major objections to it, I guess I'm also wondering how much people want it. Let me look into what I'd have to do to add it.
 
@HodofHod Not an official study or anything, but i think i've seen it being linked more often recently.
 
@Scimonster Could be. The interlinking is really great, but there's still a lot of work to be done on the system. They're in the process of segmenting the gemara (according to the Koren) and it's constantly messing up the links/references to it.
 
@HodofHod Well, it doesn't have to be right now, but as something to consider.
 
@Scimonster Absolutely. It looks like it wouldn't be too hard from a technical standpoint. The biggest hurdle right now is going to be spellings. Sefaria uses their own spellings in their urls - instead of chapter ids or similar - which aren't the ones the script uses.
 
@HodofHod Well, it's a good thing we have a Sefaria worker on Mi Yodeya. Maybe he'll be willing to push for a compatibility something.
Perhaps redirecting IDs to their URLs.
 
7:57 PM
@Scimonster Yeah, @BrettLockspeiser (sic?) was in the room a while back.
Jul 25 '13 at 19:41, by blocks
Hi all, this is Brett from Sefaria. Just a brief note to say I want to know you all and get plugged in to Mi Yodeya better. Go Jewish Hackers!
@Scimonster Huh. They accept some alternative spellings, but not all.
Bereshit and Gen also work.
I see. So any titleVariant that the API accepts ("titleVariants": ["Genesis", "Genesis", "Gen", "Gen.", "Bereishit", "Bereshit", "Ber", "Ber.", "Breishit"]) the url will also accept.
That's good.
 
@HodofHod Are there duplicates in that list?
 
YeZ
later y'all
 
@YeZ cya
 
@Scimonster Looks like. It's also weird that they don't strip the period from requests, and have to include those variants.
(Here's the API call that returns titleVariants: sefaria.org/api/texts/Gen.1)
 

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