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11:21 AM
Terminology question for everyone: it seems natural to me to call a sheaf of ∞-groupoids (in the healthy homotopy-coherent sense, of course) a 'stack'. I'd like to have a similarly unornamented word for a sheaf of (∞,1)-categories. (I've grown weary of prefixing every other word with an unsearchable string of symbols.) I saw that Charles Rezk used 'pile' in his ICM talk. Is this ... good? What are my options?
 
 
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12:21 PM
@DylanWilson Thanks for clarifications. A fiber sequence Free(1)->A->L_A[k] for E_k algebras A is given on Lurie's Higher Algebra (Theorem 7.3.5.1). It seems clear, but I did not realize it on my first reading of these materials. Sorry for such a stupid question.
I have no intuition on cyclotomic structures on THH(R). I have noticed this paper, but I even failed to understand how cyclotomic structure on THH(A) has something to do with Frobenius on A when A is an F_p-alebra intuitively from that aspect.
 
12:37 PM
@FrankScience Ah, this I can be more help with. Do you understand how the cyclotomic structure works for the free loop space?
(the relation with the Frobenius is a little more subtle, as you're certainly aware the paper to read is this one )
 
1:24 PM
@ClarkBarwick I believe Kapranov (?) has used the word "schober" for this, which is apparently a (South or Austrian) German word for a "sheaf" in the agricultural sense...
 
2:07 PM
@RuneHaugseng Am I gonna have to capitalise that?
 
@ClarkBarwick you would in german, FWIW
 
3:06 PM
but the existing literature on (perverse) schobers doesn't capitalise it
except maybe the first Kapranov--Schechtman paper about them (which might be unpublished in any case)
 
Is this really the best word for this notion?
What I mean is, aren't schobers supposed to satisfy descent only up to splitting localisation sequences of categories? I had in mind that schobers were something like sheaves valued in the fissile derived category ....
 
3:56 PM
"pile" is a good word inasmuch as i would immediately understand what someone intended if they said "infinity-pile"
 
4:19 PM
I'm not making any claims as to which word is best, I just wanted to point out the spelling in some of the existing literature on schobers in algebraic geometry :)
 
Sorry, yeah, that was a more general question for the room.
 
4:42 PM
@DenisNardin I know that this has something to do with p times convering S^1->S^1. I know that in the paper of Nikolaus and Scholze, they claim that the cyclotomic maps are induced by Tate-valued Frobenii. I meant that I cannot put together the picture here and the paper I cited (geometry of cyclotomic trace), from which I can have a very vague understanding of the cyclotomic trace.
 
4:55 PM
Hmm... I'm not super familiar with the perspective in that paper so I'll avoid making an ass of myself. My understanding of the cyclotomic trace is more "classical": I see it as a map of functors lifting the map $Σ^∞_+iC→\mathrm{colim}_{x\in iC} End(x)$ that sends each object $x$ to the identity in $Ω^∞End(x)$
Also, "Frobenii"? Frobenius is a German last name, not a Latin word :)
 
I meant the plural form of "Frobenius"
 
Yeah I know. Sorry if I came a bit harsh. I don't know how you are supposed to form the plural in German, but I'd wager that's not it
 
5:12 PM
Well, I saw this word on Krause and Nikolaus' lecture notes, both the authors of which are German. It could be a typo, but I googled and found that the word also appears on stacksproject.
 
6:01 PM
It would be Frobeniusse but I don't think anyone uses that.
 
6:13 PM
So phonetically it's closer to the Latin 4th declension? Also re: the sheaf of (oo, 1)-categories naming convention, I don't mind a small adornment if it allows for future generalizations. So I like, for instance, 2-stack.
 
The 4th declension plural would be Frobeniua (assuming we think of it as an object and not a person).
 
Oops, haha; thanks
 
6:38 PM
m.youtube.com/watch?v=KAfKFKBlZbM I just couldn’t resist,
 
What does the '2' represent in '2-stack'?
 
6:56 PM
Why not (oo,1)-stack? (As opposed to oo-stack which is (oo,0)-stack)
Seems appropriate and generalizable to me
 
I guess I was thinking of 2-stack in the sense of "the category of 2-stacks forms an (oo,2)-category". And I guess this was going with the convention that "oo-stack" means "(oo,1)-stack", as oo-category means (oo,1)-category. But I'd happily be convinced that this isn't the best terminology!
 
7:52 PM
2-stack is a sheaf of 2-categories
I just eschew the name stack and say n-sheaf and reserve "stack" for geometric stacks
 
8:33 PM
Let $X$ be a contractible topological space with a continuous action of a discrete group G s.t. all of the stabilizers are finite. Is $X/G$ (the actual quotient space not the homotopy quotient) rationally equivalent to $BG$?
 
9:18 PM
@SaalHardali How nice is X and the group action?
If X is a simplicial complex and G acts simplicially, the answer is yes
 
(And I guess both G and pi_1(X/G) are assumed nilpotent, right?)
 
I don't think that's necessary
I'm just going to claim that the map X/G→BG is a rational homology isomorphism
 
Shouldn't you be asking that pi_1 otimes Q is an isomorphism and that you have homology isomorphisms for all local systems?
 
I thought that the definition of "rationally equivalent" was just that the map is an isomorphism for homology with coefficients in Q
At least that's what Bousfield uses in his paper
 
Sorry, you're probably right. I shouldn't participate in these discussions for fear of muddying the waters like this.
 
9:24 PM
No, why not? I think it's clear enough I am not free from mistakes either :)
 
It was my impression that there was no notion of "rationalization of $X$" unless $\pi_1 X$ was nilpotent, where you can filter it by things with abelian quotient and rationalize some Postnikov-type tower. But I don't really know this stuff.
 
No, there's a notion. It's just basically impossible to compute without nilpotency, so everyone always restrict to those hypotheses. But it exists
 
I don't know this characterization of rational equivalences in terms of homology isomorphisms for non-SC spaces, but that hardly means it's not true
I certainly agree (X x EG)/G -> X/G is a rational homology iso
 
That's the thing for which Bousfield invented Bousfield localizations
The reference is his The localization of spaces with respect to homology (not to be confused with the paper with the almost exact same title but about spectra)
 
Whence why I shouldn't get involved without knowing what is now classical homotopy theory! :)
I'll add that to my long reading list, thanks.
 
9:31 PM
Anyway, to prove X/G→BG is a homology equivalence, if I recall correctly there's a spectral sequence of the form $E^1_{p,q}=⨁_{\sigma\in X_q/G}H_p(St_G(\sigma);A)⇒H_{p+q}(X/G;A)$. Then the map X→EG induces an equivalence for the E^2-page when A=Q and all stabilizers are finite
I don't know if there's a simpler proof
 
there is a classical theorem of vietoris when everything in sight is compact (metric?) that a map with acyclic fibers is a homology isomorphism; it has a nice sheafy proof
I don't know how far one can extend that argument
 
Hrmm.. the problem is that BG will often be noncompact (although I don't know what kind of G we are dealing with here)
 
right, exactly the problem - not even paracompact so there's no way we could just try to slightly extend that argument
it sounds to me like your argument might be the precise simplicial analogue of this
 
Yeah, that's the intuition it's supposed to capture
 
probably the "right" approach
 
9:44 PM
The spectral sequence should come from the double complex $C_*(X;A)⊗_{\mathbb{Z}[G]} P_*$ where $P_*$ is a free resolution of $\mathbb{Z}$ as a $\mathbb{Z}[G]$-module, and we're taking simplicial chains, although the exact details elude me a bit here
 
10:03 PM
Ben Antieau and David Gepner use "sheaf" to mean a sheaf of infinity-groupoids and "stack" to mean a sheaf of infinity-categories. I think it's compelling in the sense that infinity-groupoids play the role of sets, but it has the weird quirk that a lot of things we used to call stacks should now be called sheaves
 
@BrianShin That's really incompatible with the existing algebraic geometry literature (where they use "stack" to mean a sheaf of groupoids and "sheaf" to mean a sheaf of sets). There are plenty of theorems saying "the stack XXX is a sheaf"
I'm leaning towards "pile" or "schober" or some other made up word
 
10:29 PM
@DenisNardin Yay! Good to know, actually the spectral sequence argument you sketched is kind of what I had in mind. Do you know a reference for this?
 
@SaalHardali I was looking in my notes for it :). It's in Brown Cohomology of Groups page 173
 
Cool, thanks. Never touched this book. Maybe I was missing out
 
Dunno, I never opened it either :) I just took note of where the reference was
 
lol ^^ lucky me
 
I wanted to work it out carefully at some point to make sure I understood how it works, but well I never got around to do it
Ah I was remembering it wrong. The SS is $E^1_{p,q}=⨁_{\sigma\in X_q/G} H_p(St_G(\sigma); A)⇒H_{p+q}(X_{hG};A)$. Still it's good enough to run the argument you want
And of course what I wrote did not make sense. The homology of the total complex of $C_*(X;A)⊗_{\mathbb{Z}[G]}P_*$ is clearly $H_*(X_{hG})$
 
10:41 PM
Its a cool fact. I just came to think about it from by trying to understand fundamentally why rational homotopy of $M_g$ is controlled by the mapping class group. This statement + teichmuller theory seems to make this intuition precise.
 
Well, definitely time to go to bed before I further embarass myself
 
Don't be hard on yourself. It fooled me too. I will try to folow the argument in brown by myself. Your comments were very helpful! Thanks.
 

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