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07:45
coming back to this comparison between $ku$ and $\mathbb{S}[\mathbb{C}P^\infty]$... alas, I'm confused about basepoints. We have the inclusion ${1}\times BU(1)\to \mathbb{Z} \times BU$, "inclusion of line bundles into virtual vector bundles". But the latter space is an infinite loop space, therefore we get an infinite loop map $Q\mathbb{C}P^\infty \to \mathbb{Z} \times BU$. I'm confused about getting from here to an actual map $\mathbb{S}[\mathbb{C}P^\infty]\to ku$, because of basepoints
in the notation $\mathbb{S}[\mathbb{C}P^\infty]$ there is an "added disjoint basepoint" which I don't see where it enters
(and the spectrum map wouldn't really come from $\mathbb{S}[\mathbb{C}P^\infty]=\Sigma^\infty_+(\mathbb{C}P^\infty)$ but rather from an $\Omega$-spectrum replacement of that)
08:34
Maybe it helps to remember that there is a functor from spaces to infinite loop spaces and that functor is $\Omega^{\infty}\Sigma^{\infty} X$.
that's what I called Q, yes
08:47
Yeah, so it makes sense why the spaces should be more and more connective.
Sorry, my comment was not meant as a reply to your most recent comment. Apologies for the confusion.
 
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12:30
@BrunoStonek You are adjoining it wrong. The map $\mathbb{CP}^∞→BU×\mathbb{Z}$ is not a map of pointed spaces, so the adjunction goes from $Q(\mathbb{CP}^∞_+)→BU×\mathbb{Z}$ or, more naturally $S[\mathbb{CP}^∞]=\Sigma^∞_+\mathbb{CP}^∞→ku$
(also, you generally do not need to fibrantly replace objects when they are the source of the maps. Although I was doing it implicitly anyway...)
 
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14:09
@DenisNardin yeah, I'm aware of this, it's just the presence of $Q$ that led me to say that... Now, on the point business, I'm still confused. why don't you get an extra point in $BU\times \mathbb{Z}$, too?
Why would you? $BU×\mathbb{Z}$ is a pointed space (pointed at the 0 virtual space). You can add a basepoint when you map from a space to a pointed space
(said in a more formal way: $(-)_+$ is the left adjoint of the forgetful functor $\mathrm{Top}_*→\mathrm{Top}$)
that's very clear. thanks!
 
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16:33
Are there small DGAs known that are quasiisomorphic to cochains on BG with coefficients in some ring R ? In the special case $G=(Z/p)^n$ with $F_p$ coefficients that DGA seems to be formal for p=2 and it cannot be formal for p>2. Are there (for p>2) some smaller (than all cochains/ than the cobar resolution) DGAs known that are quasiisomorphic to the singular cochain DGA ?
16:49
What's the original source or a good modern reference of the fact that K/p splits into sum of suspensions of Morava K(1)'s and Adams operations on them? I knew those facts, but never seen a clearly written stuff on them, and I am not able to produce a proof myself... I guess they were in one of Adams J(X) paper, but checking all of them could be quite painful
Anyone have ideas for a good thing to talk about if you want to talk to high school students about algebraic topology?
classification of surfaces?
Hrm, I suspect it has to be a little more exciting sounding. I mean, they can decide whether or not they want to come to this talk.
So I have to sell it a little bit, haha.
"about how everything is either a ball, or a pretzel with one or more holes"
Haha. Hmmmm... maybe.
16:58
for a very loose definition of "everything"
Right. I suspect they'll doze off while I'm defining what I mean by "everything" and "is."
Might end up talking more along the lines of geometry, e.g. "the shape of the universe" and so forth.
Or low-dimensional topology, e.g. knots.
ah, knots are a good idea
also the universe, but I know even less about the universe than I know about knots
Haha. Maybe I should try to explain what the Nobel Prize was about?
I'd go to that talk
I guess I should first find out what the Nobel Prize was about.
17:24
Yeah, I think it might be fun to try to talk about condensed matter physics and "topological" states of matter. We'll see...
17:39
it's not going to be interesting for them (it would be more suitable for elementary school kids) but this also springs to mind mathoverflow.net/a/99237/6249
Hah. Yeah. I remember my first algebraic topology class with Jack Morava. He was saying how we could (and probably should) teach homotopy theory to 8 year olds.
that's lovely
@MingcongZeng Have you looked in Jacob Lurie's notes on chromatic homotopy theory?
18:38
@HenrikRüping I believe that you can do the following.
Suppose R is F_3 and G is cyclic of order three. Take a DGA which is a noncommutative polynomial algebra on two generators x and y in (cohomological) degree 1, and the differential satisfies dx = 0, dy = x^2. Then x represents the generator of H^1(G; F_3) and xy + yx (representing the Massey product <x,x,x>) represents the generator of H^2(G; F_3).
For G = C_p and R = F_p something similar works: take a polynomial algebra in (p-1) noncommuting variables that I'll call x, y_2, y_3, ... y_{p-1}, with d(y_2) = x^2, d(y_3) = x y_2 + y_2 x representing <x,x,x>, and generally d(y_i) a representative for the i-fold bracket <x,x,...,x>.
@DenisNardin I did, and he mentioned that on K(1) the Z_p^* action induced by action on multiplicative FGL coincide with Adams operation, without proof, and I did not find anything about the splitting of K/p, maybe I missed something there....
If you want products like G = (Z/p)^n you can tensor together copies of these, but the underlying algebra is no longer free on some generators.
What does @GeoffroyHorel mean by $F_2$ and then $\widehat{F}_2$ in this paper: geoffroy.horel.org/Profinite%20completion%20of%20operads.pdf
Just the field with two elements? Or group with two elements?
See, e.g. Definition 7.1
@MingcongZeng I think you can use a linear combination of the Adams operations on K/p = K ^ M(p) to make a map that's idempotent on homotopy, and then use that to split a summand off?
As well as in the introduction on page 2, near the bottom.
 
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20:04
@JonBeardsley The free group on two generators and its profinite completion.
20:31
@archipelago great thanks!

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