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15:09
haha what, you got too much sleep? are you too well-rested?
No I just missed all this excellent conversation
It's kind of like that Vakil quote. I don't always understand everything but I learn words and sentences!
15:27
yes, i feel very much that way about motivic homotopy theory!
i became a lot happier about it when i could talk about it \infty-categorically instead of model-categorically
it feels like it cleans up a lot of the mess
Anyone ever flown Spirit airlines? Seems like it might be a mistake
I had a bad experience where I had to wait about an hour for check-in because the check-in clerks obviously had absolutely no clue what they were doing
still, thousands of people must fly Spirit every day, and presumably nothing too dire happens to most of them
Agh. It's so cheap though. Even if you include an obnoxious $30 carry on fee
@Drew I have, Mcat would claim it is a mistake. Part of the issue is that is how they make it cheap, by not including any amenities.
@AaronMazel-Gee:thanks!
I'm only going to Chicago though - 1 hr 25 flight
Oh man. $64 including $35 for a carry on bag. Crazy cheap
15:47
in reference to a distinction i made above, let me just make sure this sounds reasonable. so if you have a presheaf of sets considered as a presheaf of spaces, then to be a sheaf of sets is to be a sheaf of spaces, right? i feel like this should be because the sheaf condition is a (ho)lim condition, and this commutes with n-truncation
yes, I agree
ok good. so the 0-truncated motivic spaces really are just A^1-local sheaves of sets
16:42
I have seen you guys talking about a certain dropbox - can one get access to it? (Well, obviously one can, but I would be interested in seeing what is in there)
 
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18:17
@Tedar a quasiprivate collection of papers and notes, some harder to find than others. here's a current contents listing: f.cl.ly/items/1J2s0i412f0Q1O1G3V0X/… , send me an email at [email protected] if you'd like read access
19:12
Man. There is more in there than I realised
19:38
we've been at it for some years now
Lol. That dropbox is sweet.
Is there a categorical way to represent a comonoid, in the same way that we think of a monoid as a category with a single element and a collection of maps?
19:54
Would you accept monoid in the opposite category?
Erg. I was thinking that.
I mean, I guess that's what I'll have to do.
That's the simply way to 'co' something
Yeah. Like, a set with a $G$ coaction is a functor $BG\to Set^{op}$
Hrm.
Ah, but okay, that kind of makes things make sense.... since a Hopf-algebra is really a group scheme. So, basically I do the stuff in the opposite category then apply global sections.
There was this half-dead ladybug on my desk, and I didn't know what to do with it. So I just threw it behind my desk. I can't sit here and watch it die. I'm weak.
i don't think that's right; i think a functor C --> D is identical information to a functor C^op --> D^op
so you are giving an action of G^op, the group with the flipped multiplication table
Hm, yeah, that does seem true.
20:00
i agree
composition of morphisms really is a 2-to-1 thing
yeah, the handedness is in the definition of composition
I mean, the fact remains that a comonoid of $C$ is a monoid in $C^{op}$
that's true, but there you're not using the categorical composition to define the co/multiplication on the co/monoid
Yeah. True.
Okay, yeah. So we have to do things internally, I guess. I.e. for a comonoid $M\in C$, i.e. a monoid $M^{op}\in C^{op}$, the comodules over it in $C$ are going to be modules over $M^{op}$ in $C^{op}$ yes?
Lord. I don't even remember why I started thinking about this.
Could anyone help me understand why the resolution appearing in proposition of 4.6 of math.harvard.edu/~lurie/papers/DAG-XI.pdf is the one for computing group cohomology?
I mean, I only know 2 ways to do this, either compute $Ext_{Z[G]}(Z,M)$ or like, this cosimplicial guy coming from $Hom(G^n,M)$
I guess there are two things to say:
1) think about how you compute Ext
20:14
Hm.
=P
I don't remember what the second one was anymore, but it was something about comparing your cosimplicial thing with what Lurie writes right before that proposition
let me remark that the 2 ways you just mentioned are the same
I know, lol.
also: what saul said
But I just don't understand... this thing looks more like some kind of Tor rather than an Ext. Hrm.
It looks like... $Tor_{R^{G}}(R,N)$
Or.... something.
20:19
I agree, that looks weird
I want to say it's some kind of crazy thing involving tensoring with simplicial sets or something. I'm not sure.
ok we should rewrite it in a way that looks less like Tor and more like Ext
so let's take R = Z[G]
Well... Hrm. okay.
and replace R^k with its R^G = Z - linear dual
R_k
then R_k = direct sum_{g_1, ... , g_k in G} Hom(Z[G], Z)
and that looks like something that might be a simplicial resolution of Z as a Z[G] module
20:24
then the complex he writes down is M -> Hom(R_0, M) -> Hom(R_1, M) -> ...
What is your notation? Hom of a hom?
Oh.
it was a typo, I just edited
It just changed.
:-)
That's plausible.
Man, I'm trying to load some nlab page... and it's still loading the effing typesetting stuff.
It's been like 5 minutes.
i think they use mathml, which seems surprisingly processor-unfriendly
It's also a giant page.
Bad web design.,
oy. just finished.
20:30
wikis don't lend themselves to carefully considered web design
Well, the cohomology of finite groups is related to its Tate homology, and the other way round
I think it looks like Tor because it's actually presented in a Tate homology fashion
Hmmmmm.
@PeterNelson is it clear to you why he is saying this? your comments do not make it clear to me.
20:56
Alright... I need to go find SGA. Erg.
SGA 3. To be precise.
Well, that's what Lurie references for this particular section, hah.
Meh, they just give the standard definition. Sheds no light on why he calls that the resolution which computes group cohomology. Maybe it is just what Saul says, but I just don't understand why we're needlessly dualizing things.... erg.
Maybe that's not true actually, I just have to figure out what $\mathscr{A}(G)$ is.
maybe this is the way to generalize it to things which aren't just group rings
But... what? I mean, we can always form the group ring over whatever our base is, and take coefficients in a $G$-module. So what's the generalization exactly?
Ah, $\mathscr{A}(G)$ is the pushforward of the structure sheaf of $G$ down to the base scheme.
And the cohomology of a group scheme $G$ over $S$, with coefficients in a sheaf $F$ can be defined as homology of the complex whose n'th level is given by $\Gamma(S, F\otimes \mathscr{A}(G)\otimes\cdots\otimes \mathscr{A}(G))$
Yeah.... I'm not sure, but I think this more general SGA framework is precisely what Lurie (and really Tyler as well) are using, but homotopically. It's probably exactly what Saul is saying, I'm just taking a long time to understand it.
21:20
If you specialize to the case that G is a discrete group then that sounds like you just get the thing you already know back
oh, and over a point
so the structure sheaf of everything involved is stupid
22:01
@Jon: I'm late to the party, but a Hopf algebra is not a group scheme! commutative Hopf algebras are (the rings of functions on) affine group schemes, but noncommutative Hopf algebras are not even "noncommutative group schemes" in the sense that they are not group objects in Ring^op!
22:42
@QiaochuYuan Sure. I agree. Sorry, I'm just being lazy and not mentioning commutativity, etc. =P
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