Hello! I had noticed this and it is a bit misleading. We are quite different sites, so no much confusion happens, but still something could be done.

Since this is affecting two communities, I suggest moving the discussion to Meta Stack Exchange. Do you agree? I can migrate it myself.

@fedorqui Migrating to MSE seems like a good idea, but it'd be better to migrate the other one since it has an answer. I find greater confusion when it's a meta question that could apply to either site.

OK, then you can ping gerrit or another mod to migrate it!

I have migrated the Meta Earth Science question to Meta Stack Exchange (where I made an edit which is now awaiting review).

I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because its sister question was migrated to Meta Stack Exchange at meta.stackexchange.com/q/285456

Marking as completed following the discussion in Do we want a different favicon for Spanish Language?

@fedorqui FYI, seeing this question closed as off-topic here requiring migration to Meta.SE, then largely ignored for years and put down as off-topic there as the discussion really must instead be on the site-specific meta, was a frustrating experience for a contributor trying one's best and seeing the effort all wasted. It discourages such efforts in the future.

WBT: please go through the comments we exchanged after you asked the question, I didn't see such animosity back then and the question was closed after you migrated the sister question from Meta Earth Science into Meta.SE. As time has shown to all of us, Meta.SE was the solution, because it is the Meta that CMs check. Also, you know well how I placed a bounty to your Meta.SE question some time ago, trying to get some extra visibility.

I don't think there was animosity around the original asking of the question and migration to Meta.SE. The content was largely ignored, until a duplicate question was asked. Efforts to mark that duplicate back to the original failed. Content then had to be pushed back to the way I'd originally done it, but instead of reopening, you opened a new copy of this "closed, off-topic" question.

I feel the effort I put in on this went to waste, and (especially in combination with other experiences leading to similar conclusions) gave up on contributing to SE. You can how my activity/contributions on SE overall has been about 0 since then, despite a fairly regular pattern of prior contributions. It probably will stay that way for at least a while, excluding these comments trying to point out what the experience was like in the faint (& probably totally in vain) hopes that something might change so that others are less likely to have such experiences in the future. Thanks for your work.

@WBT How is your effort all wasted? Do you really think we would've received the same attention and, in the end, a new icon if my question wasn't like the 3rd time somebody mentioned the same issue on Meta.SE? The cumulative pressure of my question, your question and comments from as far as 2014 made it possible. This has been achieved thanks to the combined efforts of everybody who shed light upon the issue and asked for a solution, and that includes you. You were part of this and you can tell so to anybody who asks.

@WBT Of course, I can understand your frustration. I'd also get slightly annoyed if I saw another user ask for / get the same change I asked for / got denied long time ago. What I don't get is venting all that frustration in comments on my question, and even trying to close it! Even after several users told you that having more questions about the same topic is actually better...In my eyes, it is you who chose to feel let down by all of this. We asked for different favicons and now we got 'em. The only difference is whose name is attached to the "achievement". Is it that important to you?

Efforts by others in this question and this one were sufficient to produce the outcome. No reference was needed to the much earlier questions and answers. Efforts to mark a duplicate as such & link instead of duplicate answers got active pushback & failed; this effort apparently just impeded progress toward the common goal. Yes, I think the outcome & timing would have been the same, had I not spent any time at all investing effort into content/reasoning/formatting/migration discussion/etc.

@WBT As I said, it's your decision to see it that way. I don't.

I don't necessarily feel animosity on this one, just frustration in observing the route toward getting this done necessarily had to go through directly conflicting migration instructions and duplicate questions/answers replacing (IMO better) originals. There was some animosity in closures of my other recent good-faith questions, while others' similar questions remain open and highly upvoted. The standards for what good-faith contributions matter appears arbitrary & unpredictable on SE. Others' efforts seem sufficient (y'all got this) & mine don't seem wanted, so I'll spend them not on SE.

@Walen Regarding the instruction to post duplicates, see meta question here downvoted and closed as duplicate with a pointer to an accepted answer saying "Don't repost the request." This is just further demonstration of capricious, conflicting instructions leading to a significant waste of effort that does not lead to any improvement in the community resource, and has further confirmed the conclusion to step away for at least a while.

@WBT Looking at your general attitude, I agree that you should definitely take a break.

I have merely been trying to share a perspective about why an SE experience was frustrating, around capricious enforcement of rules like "it's better to post duplicates and leave them open to attract attention and actually get the issue fixed, instead of connecting back to existing content with answers" that you opt to enforce, as if that's a rule I really should have understood when in fact meta discussion points to the opposite conclusion. What you're doing pushes contributors away, & I (wrongly) thought it might be helpful to point that out.

@WBT You keep twisting others' words to make them fit your POV. You insist on using negative terms to refer to other people's contributions so your own look better. You actively criticize and even vote against initiatives that would benefit your community, just because they don't have your name attached to it... ... ... ... ... ... Are you a politician?

@WBT You posted a question about favicons, and wrote it in a way that was, apparently, not what you meant. I read it as being about the bigger favicons. Many high rep users read it as being about the bigger favicons. A handful of mods♦ read it as being about the bigger favicons. A Community Manager read it as being about the bigger favicons. So I posted a question about the smaller favicons. And everybody agreed it was a different problem and not a duplicate.

@WBT And now our favicons, both small and large, are finally different. But you keep trying to make all of this about how your post should've been the one to prevail, and how everybody read your post wrong and how everybody is capricious and everybody is somehow against you, and how you have decided to stop contributing because of this turn of events that personally offended you.

@WBT Your argument that this "pushes contributors away" is crushed down by the very fact that I, a contributor just like you, posted a question and it got answered and a solution was implemented.

@WBT I really really would love it if you realized you had a part in achieving this (because you did, no matter what you say). But I don't really know you, so I won't really feel bad if you decide to exclude yourself. If I were you, I would chalk this up to experience, make a mental note to be more specific the next time I open a Meta question, and rejoice that the favicons are now different -- but hey! Your life, your decision. Do as you please.

You actively criticize and even vote against initiatives that would benefit your community... like what? Where do you see me doing that?

@walen When you make statements about what many or several other users are thinking or saying, you should back those assertions up better. You lost a fair amount of credibility in such assertions above, with "several users told you that having more questions about the same topic is actually better" going against a rule with consensus so strong it shouldn't even be discussable on meta.

I criticize the process by which duplication is asserted to be the proper means of accomplishing goals. I care about the process here because that is what lasts and drives the community forward, or not.

The process by which the community demonstrates that good-faith effortful contributions by one person are discarded, without consistency or means to understand how to improve for the future, is what pushes contributors (some, not all) away. That harms rather than benefits the community.

@walen The fact that you yourself, who play a role in the enforcement of capricious rules that change according to your whim even when going against community consensus on meta, feel like this system is working for you, does not change or impact what I'm saying.

Also, this particular experience is just the latest in a string of other similar recent experiences. It's a clear, concrete demonstration which makes specific discussion easier, and serves as a failed test case for SE process.