The Renderfarm

Χ-27

00:11

@ThomBlairIII these pads are AWESOME

my first chest just popped in!

Thom Blair III

oh cool!

yeah, mine started working again

I made mine 50x50 I think

how big did you make yours?

TARDIS Maker

@Χ-27 @ThomBlairIII So ladders officially work as separators then?

Χ-27

fences

Thom Blair III

@TARDISMaker fences

Χ-27

@ThomBlairIII each section is 16x16

Thom Blair III

00:14

yep, they work like a charm

Χ-27

I have 3 of them so far

TARDIS Maker

Oops, yeah that's what I meant

@ThomBlairIII Awesome!

Thom Blair III

@Χ-27 oh cool!

@Χ-27 nice!

TARDIS Maker

I'll have to use those to keep some more control in the corruption

Thom Blair III

@TARDISMaker yeah, bog water pools are also very effective for when you're on the move

TARDIS Maker

00:15

@ThomBlairIII Oh, yeah

Χ-27

you guys can come see my rig I'm setting up, colorfull hills

first teleporter on the right in my teleport room

TARDIS Maker

@Χ-27 Hows the palace coming?

Χ-27

um.... construction has been temporarily paused, it should resume later

TARDIS Maker

Okay

Χ-27

getting hotfeet, warmworms and chests right and left

gotten 5 chests so far, no useful blueprints though

just broke a diamond sword....

Thom Blair III

00:53

@Χ-27 nice!

yeah, recipes seem hard to get, but once you get the full pad setup, you can get some over an hour or so, at 1 per minute (1:15 actually)

I did notice that sometimes you can get 2 recipes or chips in one chest

they seem to have made the contents much more random now

I've gotten a chip and a journal page in 1 chest before

or 2 recipes in 1 chest

@x-27 one thing about building on water though that is kind of freaky sometimes is that when you come back to the pads, sometimes there will be missing blocks. All you have to do is restart though and they come back

that one really bummed me out before I read about restarting in a forum

I had been replacing them

and it becomes a SERIOUS security problem when the water takes a fence piece down in the corrupt or lava layer!!

@x-27 to save you the trouble, I tried the same setup with grassy dirt to see if I could also get wooden chests, but the spawning mechanics are different....didn't work

I might try making the grassy dirt corrupt with corrupt water and see if chests will spawn there

but I'll have to put in fences then

:\

Χ-27

01:50

@ThomBlairIII would have been good to know, I probably used 2 stacks patching places that water had reclaimed.

@David @gandalf3 @iKlsR can someone change my name back to X-27? I thought it would be cool to make myself ping proof, but now no pings are coming through and it is getting annoying :/

David

@Χ-27 lol done.

Χ-27

thanks! :)

TARDIS Maker

@Χ-27 Aren't you already?

David

updated just for BSE

TARDIS Maker

Or did you use some sort of invisible character to try to make it harder to ping you...

(btw, if I type in just @, it automatically comes up with you're name)

Χ-27

01:59

@TARDISMaker χ

instead of X

TARDIS Maker

@Χ-27 Nice :P

Χ-27

U+03C7: Greek Small Letter Chi

TARDIS Maker

Okay

I was wondering why when I pressed X, your name disappeared...

Χ-27

:)

@ThomBlairIII I'm using a few stacks of your ignious rock for my spawner.

Χ-27

02:29

just got 62 gunpowder from those spawning cycles.

Thom Blair III

@Χ-27 k

@Χ-27 nice!!!

@Χ-27 my 50x50 took 2500 blocks! that was a lot

Χ-27

lol\

Thom Blair III

yeah

can get lots of bombs too, so that's cool

also, TONS of those blue extractors

they can be useful for coal mining I guess

Χ-27

02:48

yah

somewhat

X-27

03:00

@ThomBlairIII I now have 60 of those blue extractors just from a few chests

Thom Blair III

awesome!!

I've filled up a whole chest of them :/

TARDIS Maker

@ThomBlairIII It's almost sad having them isn't it?

Since super extractors are so much better?

I guess for basic things isn't really useful though...

Thom Blair III

@TARDISMaker yeah...if I needed tons of coal, it'd be cool, but I don't

TARDIS Maker

@ThomBlairIII Yeah

Thom Blair III

oh well, the quirks of having opulence! XD

TARDIS Maker

03:03

Part of the reason why I haven't been playing, is just that I'm not really a huge building...

I play more for the other aspects of the game

(a race to get lumite)

Once I get there, it looses it's interest

Thom Blair III

@x-27 I'm now corrupting the grassy farm I made to see if it'll spawn chests too

X-27

I don't know if corrupted grass will work, maybe only corrupted stone/dirt?

TARDIS Maker

@ThomBlairIII That's a really pixelated image...

Thom Blair III

@X-27 idk

@TARDISMaker I really lowered the file size so it'd be easier to download

TARDIS Maker

@ThomBlairIII Ah, okay

Thom Blair III

03:09

but, in just the few minutes of dark, I've already got 2 corrupted twiggys, a chizzard & a pigsy walking on the edge

so maybe once I remove the water, maybe chests will spawn too

X-27

maybe

Thom Blair III

it's going to be a real mess to clean up :P

TARDIS Maker

Out of curiosity, are you using ocean space just because it's a large clear area to work in?

X-27

corrupted grass is not a natural material though.

@TARDISMaker pretty much

TARDIS Maker

@ThomBlairIII purification bomb?

X-27

03:11

and because it is away from other land, making all possible keepa spawns appear there.

Thom Blair III

but it's easier on the powercells than to pull it all from the corrupt then place it all

TARDIS Maker

I think it makes it mineral water, but that probably wouldn't be that bad...

Thom Blair III

@TARDISMaker well, it also ensures that no chests can spawn anywhwere else but there

TARDIS Maker

@ThomBlairIII Ah, okay

Thom Blair III

if there is any other land nearby, it can cause chests to spawn there and be lower level chests

TARDIS Maker

03:12

@ThomBlairIII Yeah, that makes sense

Have you thought about building roofs?

Thom Blair III

@TARDISMaker I wouldn't want the corrupted grass to go back to normal

@TARDISMaker why?

TARDIS Maker

So that you don't have to worry about making it stay night?

@ThomBlairIII Oh, okay

I didn't realize that you where keeping it all

Thom Blair III

@TARDISMaker I can answer that in private

I don't want anybody to learn my secrets lest the devs hear about them and patch them

X-27

:)

that would be bad

this spawner is awesome.

Thom Blair III

the big problem with cleaning up my corrupted water is that corrupted animals don't die in sunlight!!!

eek

so now I might have to work to make sure they aren't around when I go to clean up

hmm...

TARDIS Maker

03:16

@ThomBlairIII Ah, okay :)

X-27

just lay down a layer of sand or dirt, or anything else in the corrupted water, then pull it up again.

if you do it with a materiel that can't be corrupted,

it will replace the liquid you place it in.

Thom Blair III

@X-27 ooo!! good idea!!! thanks!

ping me if you get any more good ideas...I'm going to be in game

X-27

you didn't know about killing a pond by filling it with a dirt and then digging the dirt up again?

X-27

03:32

Night All.

Thom Blair III

03:45

@X-27 I just forgot...thanks for reminding me :)

Gwenn

07:45

Over the past year (since I started keeping these records) I have written upwards of 214128 words.

The most that I wrote on a single day was 6149 words on November 6th.

Over that same interval, I have started reading 104 books and finished reading 92 books.

EBrown

08:04

Yesterday, we got 8 more accepted answers, 14 more questions were answered, 26 more answers were posted, 51 badges were earned, 64 comments were left, 27 more questions were asked, 13 more questions were unanswered, 27 users were created, and 118 votes were created.
Our question answer accept rate went down by 0.0271%.
Our question answer rate went down by 0.0433%, and our answer accept rate went down by 0.0173%.

@Gwenn The last book I read (completely) was the fourth Artemis Fowl book. (The Opal Deception.)

Thom Blair III

13:35

@x-27 it turns out you don't need fences between pad sections as long as there is a full 1 block wide gap (no water in the gap (it can be below the gap)) between sections. For some reason the AI won't cross the gaps if there is no water in the gap. :)

I'm now taking OUT the fences I put in !!

X-27

I'd leave them in, it may be useful for if they update the AI to fix that.

Thom Blair III

14:00

well, yeah, but too late now... :(

the spawning seems irregular right now

but, it sure is easy to defeat the corrupted animals from below, when you're down in the water

they can't hit you at all

X-27

I bet it is!

Thom Blair III

so, at least it's a corrupt dust farm

X-27

well that is always good.

Thom Blair III

it kinda feels like AI defeating school

could come in handy if the Terminators ever take over XD

X-27

lol

Thom Blair III

14:02

yeah

X-27

I'm just hoping that the devs don't patch it

Thom Blair III

well, that's for sure

I'm hoping they make lots of cool stuff

X-27

they drastically changed the AI last update, there are certainly things that need refining, so more changes are probably coming :(

I know there are at least two builds I will be making with the blueprint system

(NID is getting two of his put in)

Thom Blair III

nice!

did he make the Wishing Well?

X-27

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ you should upload that video on youtube of you making your cathedral Before R31 so it is obvious that you are the original author.

@ThomBlairIII I don't think so...

Thom Blair III

14:05

maybe the new update will allow people to make their own blueprints?

X-27

Remember the video he posted so long ago?

Thom Blair III

no, I never saw it

X-27

hum...

let me dig through the transcript

Thom Blair III

k

X-27

Creativerse Gameplay Test

►

Thom Blair III

14:07

k, let me watch it...just a sec

X-27

that is one of the buildings that is being blueprinted

not sure what the other is

Thom Blair III

14:18

that's cool

X-27

14:38

Before and after.

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ you are not to good at preserving the natural beauty of a landscape, are you?

Thom Blair III

Food for thought: gizmodo.com/…

ARadish

16:02

yo

GiantCowFilms

@ARadish yo

ARadish

how ru? @GiantCowFilms

GiantCowFilms

Nervous, I have an AP exam on monday D:

ARadish

!!!

@GiantCowFilms so, what, you a special smart person?

GiantCowFilms

@ARadish The questions are really tricky....

ARadish

16:09

what subject?

GiantCowFilms

and, I get tired before the end of the exam (I haven't even made it through and entire practice exam).

ARadish

O.o

GiantCowFilms

@ARadish Computer Science.

ARadish

lol, you'll do fine

GiantCowFilms

@ARadish The problem is they make you do stuff you don't normally do.

Because you have to work out what these nested for loops do, and its really really really tricky!

ARadish

16:10

you'll still do fine

GiantCowFilms

@ARadish Thanks, I hope so.

ARadish

bro, you are like a living breathing computer (with strange morals, but that's not the point)

GiantCowFilms

@ARadish XD

ARadish

so what are the questions like?

GiantCowFilms

@ARadish They haven't worked out the bovine ethics chip yet.

@ARadish here is a piece of code. what does it do?

ARadish

16:12

it does stuff???

lol

why i am not an AP computer science guy^^

GiantCowFilms

what?

ARadish

idk what most code does.

i kinda just go with it

and find out

GiantCowFilms

But I can't run it 'cause its on a stupid piece of paper

ARadish

:|

@GiantCowFilms well, just don't stress about it

GiantCowFilms

K

ARadish

16:19

go in chill, and in control, and you'll come out the same. i think

GiantCowFilms

I hope its that simple

ARadish

2

@someonewithpc close, but no cigar, the rhombuses aren't planar, they have a deflection angle. :/

but i'm getting close

i don't know what scalar value to give them... Only that the tips, need to be twice as high from the center as the minor obtuse vertices. which is just planar geometry, and doesn't give me values for 3D.

Gustavo6046

16:42

Warning: Any MathJax formulas I post require ChatJax installed* in your browser!

*(it's not a extension, just a JS bookmark) :)

ARadish

wut

Gustavo6046

ops

ARadish

@Gustavo6046 did you see my rhombic hexaconahedron?

Gustavo6046

@ARadish Cool! Remembers Mathematica, a place I like :P

And also Wolfram|Alpha.

BTW the following formula discovers the size of a vector:
$$\sqrt (x^2 + y^2 + z^2)$$

And the following tranforms a vector into a unit vector ("normalizes" it) for conversion into a rotator (where V is the vector):
$$V_x = x / \sqrt \mathrm gcd {V_x}{V_y}{V_z}$$
or something like so.

Crap!

Ok, continuing...
$$V_x = \frac {V_x} {\sqrt \gcd ({V_x}, {V_y}, {V_z})}$$

$$V_y = \frac {V_y} {\sqrt{\gcd({V_x}, {V_y}, {V_z})}}$$

and the same thing for $V_z$.

This presumes $V_x, V_y, V_z \in \Bbb{R}$.

See? So many 3D-modelling-related formulas can be done with MathJax! :D

gandalf3

17:05

yeeees

Gustavo6046

oh hi gandalf :D You make so ${many}^2$ cool renders!

TARDIS Maker

@gandalf3 Wait, so does that mean that when I posted that link, it wasn't old news?

gandalf3

@Gustavo6046 lol

@TARDISMaker XD

Gustavo6046

So this is $\text{Blender}^{2.77a}$ which I finally updated to use! BTW, where is a changelog?

gandalf3

17:37

@Gustavo6046 wiki.blender.org/index.php/Dev:Ref/Release_Notes/2.77

Gustavo6046

cool

thanks

TARDIS Maker

18:24

This is frustrating...

I'm working on making my urls look nice

So that I can go TARDISMaker/admin/

Instead of TARDISMaker/?id=0293498592034

But whenever I add a trailing slash, suddenly my js becomes a copy of my index, and my css becomes nothing, and they're both passed as text/html

Really annoying

I feel like it's being caused by my local server setup...

ARadish

@Gustavo6046 i like my vectors in edible form: {xi, yj}

@TARDISMaker i'm gonna pretend i followed that so i can sympathize

wow, that must be hard

TARDIS Maker

@ARadish :P

I think the only people who will really understand that are @gandalf3 and @GiantCowFilms and maybe @David

EBrown

@TARDISMaker Ah, .htaccess?

TARDIS Maker

And @EBrown (forgot about you)

GiantCowFilms

@TARDISMaker You issue is well, odd

TARDIS Maker

18:32

@EBrown Yeah

EBrown

@GiantCowFilms No it's not.

TARDIS Maker

@GiantCowFilms Very

EBrown

It's actually very common.

TARDIS Maker

Okay

ARadish

my issues are odd

TARDIS Maker

18:33

I saw a lot of stack overflow things when googling

EBrown

Are your js files in the js/ folder, or something?

TARDIS Maker

Nothings seems to work though...

@EBrown Basically

GiantCowFilms

@EBrown I've been doing websites for years now, and I have never seen that behavior :P. I guess that is because usually my configration is correct :P

ARadish

my room smells like burning hair, because i was doing some soldering, but dropped the iron on my rug.

TARDIS Maker

I have them in build/js/

EBrown

18:34

Easiest way to fix this: move the JS and CSS files to the same folder, then change the links/relations to them to be absolute.

TARDIS Maker

@GiantCowFilms Do you do fancy php url stuff?

GiantCowFilms

@TARDISMaker Yes, look at blend exchange :P

EBrown

There's a harder way to fix it, but basically you instruct the .htaccess NOT to use Mod_Rewrite on those folders.

TARDIS Maker

@EBrown Okay...

@GiantCowFilms Oh, yeah

@EBrown Okay

EBrown

What's happening is that the .htaccess Mod_Rewrite is rewriting the js and css folders to the admin stuff.

TARDIS Maker

18:34

Is that a more correct approach?

@EBrown Okay

EBrown

@TARDISMaker I don't know if either is really correct but it's a more sustainable approach.

TARDIS Maker

@EBrown Okay

EBrown

And then if you ever add subfolders and such, you can have the .htaccess ignore them as well.

TARDIS Maker

Okay

EBrown

Both approaches will work just fine, the first is easier, the second is more robust.

I don't remember exactly how to do it in .htaccess (it's been years, literally) but that's what is happening.

TARDIS Maker

18:36

Okay

I'm googling it right now

btw, thanks, I didn't expect to actually get help here

I was mostly venting my frustration

EBrown

I saw the @EBrown signal.

TARDIS Maker

:)

EBrown

Anyway, I'm off.

woosh

gandalf3

@TARDISMaker EBrown == the hero you deserve, but not the one you need? (or something)

TARDIS Maker

@gandalf3 Yeah :P

GiantCowFilms

18:46

@gandalf3 I don't think we need @EBrown to think he's batman. Hes already wooshing an imaginary cape.

Gustavo6046

@ARadish edible form?

ARadish

understandable

gandalf3

@GiantCowFilms He has an EBrownSignal too

Gustavo6046

I mean, what's a vector's edible form?

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 Wait, what if he is batman? *plot twist*

Gustavo6046

18:48

lol

ARadish

@Gustavo6046 {xi, yj}

Gustavo6046

ok, lemma try

${xi, yj}$

ARadish

yay!

nom nom nom eat vector

Gustavo6046

that doesn't look like a vector. I don't understand i or j...

ARadish

now do a compnent vector

A-dot-B/||B||

Gustavo6046

18:50

$A-dot-B/||B||$

nope...

@ARadish do you use ChatJax?

ARadish

thats the same as comp_B of A

@Gustavo6046 no

Gustavo6046

:<

ok, btw I gonna see a pull request at github

Thom Blair III

19:17

@Gustavo6046 Hi! I just saw you were totally into Mathmatica & since you are also into rendering, I thought you might find some of this guy's website interesting: bugman123.com

@Gustavo6046 He has lots of Mathmatica code on it

Gustavo6046

Thanks!

Thom Blair III

I think this one is really pretty:

(* runtime: 0.1 second *)
<< Graphics`Shapes` ; alpha = ArcCos[-Sqrt[5]/5];
surface = {{{0.11, 0.35, 1}, {0.16, 0.33, 1}, {0.23, 0.35, 0.99}, {0.3, 0.38, 0.96}, {0.35, 0.43, 0.9}, {0.29, 0.42, 0.8}, {0.22, 0.37,0.7}, {0.14, 0.34, 0.62}, {0.078, 0.296, 0.585}}, {{0, 0, 1}, {0.13, 0.09, 1}, {0.29, 0.22, 0.99}, {0.4, 0.33, 0.95}, {0.41, 0.45, 0.88}, {0.31, 0.47, 0.77}, {0.2, 0.43, 0.65}, {0.08, 0.4, 0.56}, {-0.019, 0.398, 0.526}}, {{0.36, 0, 1}, {0.39, 0.11, 1}, {0.45, 0.23,0.99}, {0.49, 0.35, 0.95}, {0.47, 0.45, 0.86}, {0.36, 0.52, 0.73}, {0.22, 0.5, 0.59}, {0.13, 0.48, 0.48}, {0.07, 0.489, 0…

$user image$

Gustavo6046

with Mathematica I mean the SE site

Thom Blair III

Oh

Gustavo6046

and I love fractals!

Thom Blair III

19:21

Oh yeah, me too

but from an intellectual & artistic perspective, rather than a mathematical one, since I don't understand math

Gustavo6046

I do understand math, just not fractal math :P but I do also like fractals artistically.

Thom Blair III

@Gustavo6046 I saw an interview with Mandlebrot, where he was describing how when he first came up with fractal math theory, he was literally laughed out of his job

He was totally disgraced and forced to quit because nobody believed fractals were true math

I'm looking for the interview now

Gustavo6046

wow

Thom Blair III

"Nobody believed fractals were real math"

That was in like 1970 or so

I have to look up the details to get them straight

Gustavo6046

1970?

Same year that Conway's Game of Life first appeared!

Thom Blair III

19:26

don't quote me on 1970

I'm checking right now

@Gustavo6046 Sorry, I can't find the exact interview I saw, but it was just SO shocking to hear him describing how as a professional mathematician in this day and age, his theories, which are sound, solid math, could cause him to be disgraced in a professional intellectual environment

Thom Blair III

19:43

@david @iklsr @gandalf3 I just tried to upload an animated gif and it failed to upload...where should I describe the problem? Is it a SE (ie Meta) issue or an non-SE issue (ie imgur issue)?

gandalf3

Is it > 2 MB?

Thom Blair III

No, it's 6MB, which I now remember is the problem, but the error message simply said "upload failed. Please try again"

I think the error message should be more informative

and not tell someone to Try Again

gandalf3

@ThomBlairIII yes... that's a known thing

Thom Blair III

Bad error handling

@gandalf3 So, just let it go?

gandalf3

Post a thing on meta if you want, looks like this was fixed on main

So maybe they'll fix it in chat

Thom Blair III

19:47

@gandalf3 Oh ok, thanks!

TARDIS Maker

btw, for those who care (if anyone actually does), this is what worked for me stackoverflow.com/a/12887204/4313151

If I understand it correctly, it's essentially saying that for everything that I marked as relative, it should be treated as absolute with the base being the root folder

I'm starting to really like having stack overflow around

I've gotten basically all of the answers to my questions on the project from there without having to ask any

cegaton

20:36

This is what I've got so far on the FAQ: meta.blender.stackexchange.com/a/1068/1853

ARadish

21:11

(0_0)

someonewithpc

@ARadish The rhombic hexacontaredron done yet?

gandalf3

21:32

@cegaton Nice going

ARadish

@someonewithpc not really, i couldn't figure out the scalar values to make the rhombic faces planar

someonewithpc

@ARadish .. Why aren't they planar?

How did you make them?

ARadish

angle from interior point, to exterior point wasn't quite right

@someonewithpc i make the star and scale it in the local Z

as close as i can

someonewithpc

@ARadish Couldn't you press 0?

what are you trying to do?

ARadish

one sec

ARadish

21:59

see. non-planar

@someonewithpc

so imagine each star face as a dish.

the distance from the bottom of a dish, to teh top needs to be X, and the distance of the intermediate vertices, (the ones at the base of the star pokies) needs to be X/2

someonewithpc

So, the rhombuses themselves are not planar.?

ARadish

so i did that, and then tried scaling as close as i could with my eyes, and there is the result

@someonewithpc correct

you can see teh lines from the triangulation on the inside. :/

someonewithpc

Yeah

ARadish

so that is the other angle i need. dish inclination

i have dish major radius

ARadish

22:25

@someonewithpc that is my predicament. bbl

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