The 2nd Monitor

skiwi

13:01

Couldn't find an English article yet, but if you want to know why the Dutch make fun of Belgium ^^

Translate this Dutch article: nos.nl/artikel/…

Summary: Police officers brought live grenades as evidence in a court case, apparently someone forgot to disarm the grenades

Vogel612

Monking..

RubberDuck

0

A: Request for [lexical-analysis] to be created

I like this tag and think it's a good call. parsing is currently used for all kinds of things that are parsing, but not exactly lexical analysis. Having the lexical-analysis tag gives us something to use for more formal definitions of parsing. grammar is very specifically tied to formal grammar...

Jeroen Vannevel

@Vogel612 getting funky with Roslyn?

Vogel612

yea...

I think I fixed the error ...

but I don't have any execs where they should be :/

Jeroen Vannevel

You use linux?

Vogel612

13:11

yea

could we hop over to gitter or a separate room?

Jeroen Vannevel

We could, but I'm no use

I don't do linux and I have no knowledge of Make

Pimgd

legacy code - where things work, but your coworker tells you you're using the wrong classes and have to do it again with the new classes, but it won't work yet cuz the validator doesn't exist yet

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Vogel612

@Pimgd Legacy Code - Where things work, then your coworker tells you that's already implemented somewhere else and you check that and it's almost 100% wrong, but works there as well, but you're too scared to switch to the existing code because it shouldn't work

Pimgd

well I'm kinda fucked now because I thought it was almost done

but it's not

and subversion

skiwi

Legacy Code - Where things work because there are two bugs that end up fixing each other

Vogel612

13:14

at least you have a reasonable VCS

Pimgd

and I gotta do this first but I also have a half-implemented REST controller that needs to be shelftdfved

Mast

@RubberDuck Does the mentioned lexer even exist?

Pimgd

temporarily stored

RubberDuck

@Mast No.

Mast

I'll remove it then.

Pimgd

13:15

I hate it when things get interesting when they were supposed to be boring

and vice versa too

RubberDuck

@Pimgd legacy code: code that has no tests.

skiwi

Non-legacy code: Code that doesn't exist

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Pimgd

@RubberDuck Yes but that's a boring, obvious definition

Mast

@skiwi That's hypothetical.

Pimgd

basically the DAO layer I used is wrong cuz it doesn't do validations

the new one is also wrong cuz there's no validator implementation yet...?

skiwi

13:16

@Pimgd And nobody told you before?

Pimgd

nope =D

I feel like someone just cut down a tree in front of me

then said "oh, looks like it fell on your path, dohohohohoho"

"let me clean it up for you"

like why

hmmh

private static final boolean useNewDAO = false

Vogel612

ohmigawd...

hardcoded config switches ftw?

Pimgd

I'm adding that

if(useNewDAO){
    //broken code
} else {
    //working code
}

tadaaaa now I can keep working-ish

Vogel612

I wait for the day someone switches useNewDAO to true and goes mad

Pimgd

that day should be today in about two hours

what the hell

where's my getter gone

new dao sucks

it's got get all, but no search functions

maybe I'm getting this wrong and have to use new dao for saving and old dao for loading

Vogel612

13:24

that sounds wrong and strangely appropriate for legacy code

Pimgd

It does, doesn't it

Jeroen Vannevel

A Language Specification notation is surprisingly logically built sometimes

Pimgd

also the more I look at it the more it looks like I used oldOldDao and need to use oldDao instead

Jeroen Vannevel

binary-integer-literal:
  0b   binary-digits   integer-type-suffixopt
  0B   binary-digits   integer-type-suffixopt

binary-digits:
  binary-digit
  binary-digits   binary-digit

binary-digit:   one of
  0 1

Pimgd

but how can old code be not finished yet

@JeroenVannevel I don't get the "binary-digit binary-digits binary-digit" part

the rest makes sense

wait, is that some crazy recursion specification

Jeroen Vannevel

13:29

Yes

Pimgd

what happened to "one or more of X"

Jeroen Vannevel

binary-digits can be a single binary digit or (binary digits + binary digit)

Pimgd

yes, multiple was 0..*

and you need 1..*

Jeroen Vannevel

@Pimgd I would assume it's to stay in line with previous C#LS notations where that might be avoided because it's too wordy?

Pimgd

still makes me go slightly "why?" but I guess that's how it works so it's not that bad

I mean, you could do worse....

Jeroen Vannevel

13:31

But yeah, looks like binary literals are coming to C# 7: github.com/dotnet/roslyn/issues/215

They've already implemented it in the future branch

Simon Forsberg

@skiwi There seems to be lots of things floating around that doesn't deserve that many upvotes.

For example, this:

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A: How clean is my snow?

You don't get drops of snow! Clearly it should be for flake in flurry:

Vogel612

@Pimgd EBNF doesn't have that

Duga

If your code is working then it would be better to ask on codereview.stackexchange.com — jcubic 22 secs ago

Pimgd

so the suggested fix for making the new dao work

... is copying some of the code from the old dao

This is the whole reason why

> The personalSettingsService does all the database stuff via layers upon layers upon layers of DAO - not somewhere I want to poke around (it's also untested).

I said that

it's DAO madness

I want my JPARepositories back

with spring's fancy methods

also IntelliJ IDETalk plugin is pretty cool

Phrancis

@SimonForsberg To me that should be a comment, at best, definitely NAA

Pimgd

13:40

they're managed to make it possible to convert conversation where you roll your chair over to the other guys' desk 5m away and point at the screen

to clicking things on your own computer, typing a message and then staring at that person to see them read your message

Simon Forsberg

@Phrancis Why? Since when was nitpicking on variable names not acceptable answers?

Pimgd

it is most definitely an answer

Simon Forsberg

You can flag it all you want, I'm afraid we will just have to keep declining those flags.

Pimgd

but........

Vogel612

it's short. so what?

Duga

13:43

Thanks I did not know it, I posted it on codereview codereview.stackexchange.com/questions/118773/… — fazac 28 secs ago

Vogel612

it's witty so it got upvotes.

Pimgd

it could do with some more explanation of how "flake" is better

Vogel612

if you don't like it. downvote it

@Pimgd ermph..

Simon Forsberg

I don't like the fact that it has got so many upvotes, but all I do is downvote it.

Vogel612

"snow falls in flakes not in drops" not enough explanation for you?

Simon Forsberg

13:43

@Pimgd Ummm.... English language?

Vogel612

there isn't really anything else to say

Pimgd

... but if you put products in a basket but it's not a basket it's a cart

then it's weird to say "rename this basket of yours to cart"

Vogel612

ehhh?? why?

container names have semantic meaning. deal with it

that's why variable names are hard

Pimgd

it'd make more sense to say "you use Cart here, so you should call your variable cart here because you're not adding to a basket you're adding to a cart"

but this is, what

for pellet in hailstorm

Captain Obvious

0

Q: types of linked list

I'm newbie to Data structure. I know singly, doubly and circular linked list. When I surf the internet I saw new lists like XOR linked list, unrolled linked list so on. What are other types of list. Thank u in advance .

linked-list

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Q: Find given number by summing up integers from 2 sorted arrays

I am working on an algorithm question in which I need to find out pair of number out of 2 Sorted arrays which sum up to the given number. I need to print out the indexes of those pairs rather than number itself. I have written an algorithm which does work but I am wondering is it the best solutio...

java algorithm complexity

0

Q: Highlight specific words in a sentence with diacritrics

I am searching for some improvements, particularly in the regex, in the way I highlight specific words in a string. Here is the situation : I have keywords into my database stored without any diacritrics, The user comes with a string with diatrics, I find the matches between the keywords and my...

javascript regex

Pimgd

13:46

hmmhhhhhmhhmh well whatever

Actually I took a look at the code of the question

Phrancis

To the larger point though, yes I agree that it shouldn't have that many upvotes, HNQs/mailing list featured posts tend to skew the metrics for those posts

Pimgd

and what I see is drops drops drops drops

why this one forloop flakes

should it all be flakes?

Vogel612

yeap

Pimgd

but he has def createRainDrop(x, y, speed):

so it's not all snow, issit

Vogel612

it was intended for rain, but turned out to be snow because whyever...

probably performance, since he doesn't prune the invisible ones..

Pimgd

13:48

for particle in weather

createWeatherParticle

nah

okay now I'm just screwing around, its quite pointless

gotta get back to the 9 layers of ~~hell~~ dao

Vogel612

it's 14 or 7... I don't know about 9 layers in any mythology

Pimgd

well 9 circles it is

but these are not circles

they're layers

it's like cake and ogers, they're different

or ogres

or whatever the english version of Shrek said, the dutch one used "Oger"

Pimgd

14:02

so my co-worker is on TV-tropes, what should I do

that place is hell, I ought to prod them somehow

Zak

Save them before it's too late ^^

Vogel612

TVTropes either is hell or heaven

but in both cases it's a productivity killer

skiwi

@SimonForsberg Eh wow... what?! On our site?!

Pimgd

14:20

new dao doesn't do generics

now I gotta figure out how to downcast a Set

skiwi

@Pimgd I thought you said new

Pimgd

It is new

it uses something called "FieldsObject", which, well...

skiwi

But there's no generics, so it's legacy, right?

Pimgd

private final static FieldInfo[] fieldInfo = {
		new ReferenceFieldInfo("persoon", "PS", PersoonObject.class, FIELDINFO_OPTS_NAME|FIELDINFO_OPTS_NOT_NULL|FIELDINFO_OPTS_NOT_EMPTY|FIELDINFO_OPTS_SHOW_BY_DFT, null, "PersoonInstellingenObject.persoon", null, null, INVALID_FIELD_ID, OnDeleteRuleEnum.CASCADE, PERSOON_ID, null),
		new FieldInfo("keyname", "KY", String.class, FIELDINFO_OPTS_NAME|FIELDINFO_OPTS_NOT_NULL|FIELDINFO_OPTS_NOT_EMPTY, null, "PersoonInstellingenObject.keyname", null, null, INVALID_FIELD_ID, KEYNAME_ID, 0, 100, null),

it goes on like that for a while

skiwi

That looks... horrible

Zak

14:23

persoon lol

Pimgd

looks like it's generated from XML

well actually

there's your root cause

Zak

what on earth does Instellingen mean?

Pimgd

our model classes are generated from XML

it's semi dutch-english code

because why not

skiwi

@Zak Settings, obviously ^^

Pimgd

that's what you get for programming in the age of internet-for-businesses-only

return (Set<PersoonInstellingenObject>) ((Set<?>)dao.get(request));

yes

it works

the whole reason we don't have generics is because you don't query for objects

you query tables

and then fieldinfo-map to objects

which is FieldObject

subclassed by SpecificGeneratedModelObject (e.g. GeneratedPersoonInstellingenObject)

skiwi

14:29

Can't you... just change the implementation?

Pimgd

I'm new here

*DAO*

50+ hits

welp

so basically no because 10KLOC easily

for just the generics

there's probably 50KLOC due to all the generated code

makes you appreciate hibernate, it does

woo, it com- doesn't compile. bleh.

skiwi

Be a little bit careful here, your post-to-reply ratio is getting a bit high ;)

Pimgd

Thanks, shoulda told me earlier tho, looking at the log

skiwi

I just noticed it now :P

Pimgd

should some of it be moved to trash or something?

Total tests run: 25, Failures: 0, Skips: 0 + manual testing passes as well, looks like all my dao torture paid off and now everything is working with validations of unknown origin enabled

Phrancis

14:48

@Pimgd That's good

> I compared the XML orders for the 3 clinicians and found something. Notice how [NAME REMOVED] has only 1 space between first and last names, but the other two have 2 spaces. Could it be that the parsing logic on your end is expecting “exactly 1 space” and so just sees the 2nd empty space as the string that should be the last name, or something like that?

That's great lol. I bet the answer will be "Yes"

Pimgd

but what if there is no last name? Does it just explode?

Phrancis

Just raises an error on the vendor's end (same as this one I'm working on troubleshooting)

Pimgd

NotOurProblemException

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Ethan Bierlein

Monking

Phrancis

Monking

Captain Obvious

15:01

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Q: Is this a good idea to test if text messages are exactly what they are?

I have been told that testing java exceptions' messages is a good thing, but it looks so much like redundancy that I cannot believe it. Consider following fictional code: public class PersonTooYoungException extends RuntimeException { private static final String MESSAGE = "%d years old is ...

java unit-testing

Pimgd

> Consider following fictional code

can we migrate to Software Quality Assurance & Testing?

it's a beta site, but looks pretty suitable for them

lemme check their tour/meta first though

Dan Pantry

@Quill did you make that chat room? I want to complain about something I just found in my code base.

var el = element.html('<div class="circle-wr"><div class="bottom"></div><div class="middle"></div><div class="circle"><div class="circle-text"></div></div></div>');

Someone decided to make circular buttons out of 3 stacked divs.

please send help

Phrancis

Hahahah I was right, vendor confirmed defect on their end

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Pimgd

15:18

@nhgrif when you come across a case like this - vendor makes a bug that breaks your application, obviously you'd add a unit test that checks for this bug in parsing, yes? But what do you do about "failing unit tests = failing build" if the vendor still has to fix the issue?

Captain Obvious

0

Q: refactoring for my groovy script to use as less code as possible

interface MyInterface { void method(); } class CreatorClass { private static class PrivateImplementation implements MyInterface { @Override void method() { println "Hello from private class" } } static class PublicImplementation implements MyInterface { @Over...

groovy

Malachi

mmmmmm......brains.

Pimgd

you okay there?

Captain Obvious

0

Q: Responsive design approach

Mostly I am using bootstrap for my website and I keep it pretty responsive. However some of my pages are hard to adjust with media queries. I have a size limit 769px for mobile. Is it a acceptable practice that, lets assume a user visits my website with desktop chrome, and I serve desktop versi...

html css html5

Duga

15:34

Your code would benefit from a code review. Maybe post this to Code Review Stack Exchange. This is frankly terrible code and you'll learn a lot from a review. — usr 1 min ago

Pimgd

@Duga "Example code:" - Code Review Stack Exchange prefers working production-style code. Read the -

crap, where's the link.

Phrancis

Is the first part actual real code? It looks a lot like example code. Also, there is no need to post the 2nd part as to what you would want it to look like (especially if it's not working). — Phrancis 20 secs ago

Duga

@usr "Example code:" - Code Review Stack Exchange prefers working production-style code. Read the help center on our site to learn more. — Pimgd 18 secs ago

Pimgd

(couldn't find the proper link)

I admit to making a pretty poor search effort, though.

Duga

@VincentSavard Thanks. Its usage is described here: codereview.stackexchange.com/questions/118594/… — Pyderman 13 secs ago

skiwi

15:45

I just realized again how scary it is to have no unit tests, even for just prototyping

int currentLevel = playerSnapshot.getBuildingLevel(this);
return (long)(5000L * Math.floor(2.5d * Math.exp((currentLevel * 20d) / 33d)));

That should be returning the right values ^^

Vogel612

theoretically and for some values of right, eh?

Captain Obvious

0

Q: How do I compile time enforce domain values go into the dal?

Schema.generated.fs namespace Project.Schema.DataModels.Patients // Generated by T4 in namespace Project.Dal // types shared between layers, no behaviors, just shapes go here // something all layers can depend on without taking dependencies on anything platform/ui/dal specific // this file repre...

c# f#

0

Q: Using [ChildActionOnly] for generating links

I have a view which displays a list of items, in each row I'm going to have a link, a link in each row points to different location So base upon a property called CertificationType I have to generate an address, for example if the type equals to 'BirthCertificate' I need to fetch the address from...

c# performance asp.net-mvc

skiwi

It actually works

Malachi

@CaptainObvious sounds off-topic....

Captain Obvious

16:01

-3

Q: how to store geo location in android to mysql server(cloud) using java

I am trying to get the geo coordinates from android and needs to store that one in mysql server using java. can anyone please help me on this.

java mysql android

Mat's Mug

@CaptainObvious poof, gone

Ethan Bierlein

16:42

-2

A: OO coffee dispenser

Who would like a nice cup of tea?

lol ^^

skiwi

Looking at his profile, he does have serious answers

Help, my algorithm does weird stuff

I don't know if it's broken or just smarter than me

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Mast

@EthanBierlein Odd question, I'd say that's already pretty OO what's on the mug.

Duga

16:58

I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because stack overflow is not a code review or debugging service. — Olaf 27 secs ago

Mast

> I think I might be having a problem with the color palette.

That's awfully vague.

skiwi

Ok, the algorithm was broken, it filled up its resource storages tot he max, instead of being limited by them

Math.min vs Math.max matters

Or I'm still confused, I'm bad with Math.max and Math.min lol

Mat's Mug

17:14

@Duga astonishing, the amount of people that think "where's my bug" == "code review"

Vogel612

"where's my bug" \subset "code review"

skiwi

The algorithm is not broken after all, but I still don't know why it's wrong

Vogel612

soo... did you write unit-tests?

skiwi

No

In theory nothing should go wrong

So @Vogel612, the situation I have is that I added resource storages and constraints, initially it takes longer, but as the algorithm progresses it finds better solutions than the one without resource storages

Mast

At least we know your tests aren't broken.

skiwi

17:16

And I'm kind of confused by that

Vogel612

@skiwi you're limiting the result space by restricting resources...

skiwi

It only does that for Metal Mine 20 for example, on Metal Mine 10 it returns the same results

Vogel612

you're still on A*?

Because then limiting the result space unintentionally corrected a misguided heuristic

skiwi

Ah no, I stopped with A* a long time ago

Dinner now, I'll explain later

It's a hand-made algorithm this time

Phrancis

Yes. It real code. And it works actually. But I don't like class declarations - it seems too verbose and I believe it is possible to simplify it. — user1432980 59 secs ago

^ can we reopen?

Vogel612

17:26

added reopen vote, I stand by my downvote though.

Quill

@DanPantry I renamed the chatroom to bring more visitors

Phrancis

@Vogel612 Do you think the "Ideally I would like to have something like this (it does not work though)" section should be removed? To me it's just noise

Vogel612

not sure...

the code-block could be quoted. or the whole thing could be removed

my groovy sucks, though...

Phrancis

I tried quote-blocking it but couldn't get the formatting quite right (one line was pretty long and bled over

StackExchange

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Q: Should pedantry be discouraged?

I'm taking about this answer which is essentially pedantry about two variable names, which seems to be meant as a funny remark. I mentioned (in the first comment) that such an answer contributes far less than the other answers, even though variables names are important, especially for the code's...

discussion

Vogel612

17:28

just select the whole codeblock and press Ctrl + q

Phrancis

:|||

Quill

pbs.twimg.com/media/CaTI8QxWcAAeAOG?format=pjpg&name=large

Mat's Mug

@Phrancis I think it's too UWYA still

The question title watermark text says "state the task that your code accomplishes, be distinctive." - please edit your post to tell us what your code is doing, as it stands I agree with @Vogel612 it's unclear what you're asking, and the code itself borders on stub code, with identifiers like MyInterface. Adding more plain-English description of the problem you're solving with this code would help us help you. Also note, "refactoring" and "golfing" aren't the same (quite opposites actually) - using less code shouldn't be a goal in itself, vs. readability and maintainability. — Mat's Mug ♦ 49 secs ago

Quill

@StackExchange meta is murder

Vogel612

@Phrancis oh yea, that's because the algo is dumb... there should be some excess > in there. find and remove them to fix this

Hosch250

17:35

@Phrancis Handled.

Mast

@Quill How so?

Vogel612

@Mast that's a reference to a blog post by Jeff Atwood

blog.codinghorror.com/meta-is-murder

interesting that those don't get a onebox

Phrancis

@Mat'sMug Possibly, but I think we should just go back through the community voting process, since UWYA is less clear-cut than example code

Hosch250

I agree that it is too highly upvoted for its content, and didn't vote myself. I'm not going to DV just because it was that highly upvoted, though, because I agree with the content.

Captain Obvious

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Q: Array and Function phrase counts

write a full program that asks the user to enter a phrase and then a single letter.

c++

Quill

17:39

@CaptainObvious literally homework

Mast

@CaptainObvious HAMMERTIME!

Vogel612

@CaptainObvious just nuke it

Phrancis

That's a pretty easy problem to solve, too. If they would only just try...

Mat's Mug

@Phrancis I didn't hammer it

Vogel612

@Phrancis It's always september

2

Hosch250

17:41

string.Count(c => c == {variable});

Mat's Mug

@CaptainObvious now that is over-and-above beyond lazy

Phrancis

@Mat'sMug Couldn't even be bothered to type it all out, they had to take a photo of their homework lol

Mast

@Phrancis Same here.

Hosch250

Oooh, I just realized I'm just about 2000 points away from 15k.

That is about 1.5 months of steady answering.

Phrancis

For ~~laughs~~ posterity

Quill

17:43

I haven't posted many good answers lately, most of them get ignored anyway

quartata

Quill

> HOW JUIC AVOCAD

Mast

@Hosch250 Or 10 days if you go all Jon Skeet on us.

Hosch250

I posted three answers and a question in a three day period and got 235 rep.

quartata

If you think CR's off-topic questions are bad, you haven't seen anything yet.

Hosch250

17:46

Yeah, Smokey gets the best ones.

quartata

This one is from PPCG.

Hosch250

Yeah. I remember one about tattoos over there too.

Quill

This is off-topic for missing code: codereview.stackexchange.com/questions/118773/…

Mast

Boat programming. Nuff said.

quartata

@Quill I see code

Phrancis

17:47

^^

Quill

The removeDiacritrics function and heaps more in the JSFiddle is not included

Captain Obvious

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Q: Copy rows from one Workbook to Another takes a lot of time

The below code will copy data from a workbook and copy it to an existing (and open) workbook. At the beginning of the month this copy/paste works very quickly, but as the month goes on and the data also grows, this process slows down to a couple of minutes. Once we start hitting 200 rows of data,...

performance vba excel

quartata

@Quill oh

Vogel612

@Quill then it won't get reviewed...

that's that

Mat's Mug

@Quill suggest OP to include an on-site executable Stack Snippet instead of the fiddle?

Quill

17:48

@Vogel612 It uses the not included function in the post

Vogel612

so what?

Hosch250

codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/23038/…

Quill

I was writing it up, but I don't have the autocomments script. magic of safari

Mat's Mug

@Quill 80% of my questions use code that's not included in the post...

Quill

var a = "lorem ipsum....";
var b = dooFooThing(a);

//proceed to use b

Mat's Mug

17:50

oh

clearly stub

Duga

If you have working code and want to have help for improvement post at SE Code Review please. Here's the wrong place. — πάντα ῥεῖ 47 secs ago

Quill

They got a new design

Vogel612

yea. Pawel made it

Quill

aaaaand then they'll end up getting talked about in the next podcast

Vogel612

okay if that happens ima be angry

Quill

17:56

so I left my email on my SE profile, and I just got this beauty

Vogel612

@Quill I guess some of this stuff ends up in my spam folder.

Quill

It usually does end up in my spam, but it was send via a gmail account, so it ended up in my inbox

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