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Q: Why don’t we use the term “scale signature”, rather than “key signature”?

Brian FThis would avoid the confusion to some, of saying that the key/mode of A dorian has a key signature of G. I’m all for making things clearer for people learning music. If a piece is in D dorian, I always put “D dorian” above the key signature of C. This makes it clear what mode/key the piece is re...

For one thing, Dorian is a mode, not a key .
@Tim -- I subscribe to the paradigm that a downvote indicates that the question is unlikely to be of interest or value to the general readership. I'm not using it as an ad-hominem attack.
@Tim, fair enough.. I'll remove
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@CarlWitthoft - Takes a special sort of person! Thank you.
It's six in the morning, and my day has already been made. Thanks guys! @CarlWitthoft and Tim
I think you want to use a wording that tells the number of accidentals "...key signature of one sharp" and use "major" or "minor." So... G major has a key signature of one sharp. If you say "key signature of G" we are left wondering: major or minor? Also, if you say something like E minor has a key signature of G major, we still don't know how many accidentals.
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@MichaelCurtis - I keep saying this. There has to be a better term than 'accidental'. An accidental is something put in to change a stated note in the key sig. It really shouldn't be the name for # or b at the beginning! But what?
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@Tim, I know what you mean. I'm not accidentally changing F to F# to make G major!
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@MichaelCurtis - not a criticism of your answer! But the # and b in a key sig. are there on purpose, not accidentally!
@Tim, right! My comment was a joke :-)
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@MichaelCurtis - I know. It didn't fall b 'cos I'm quite #. But the question still remains...
Isn't it normal and clear to say "D major has the key signature of two sharps, G Dorian has the key signature of one flat", and so forth? That's what I do.
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@ScottWallace - so calling it 'key sig.' rather than 'accidentals at the start'? Seems good. Question - is, say, D Dorian a 'key'? I'm really not sure if that's the correct term.
Had to smile when you said 'above the key sig. of C'. Nice one!
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Good point about me calling D Dorian a key, Tim. I’m being provocative again. If we call A minor a key, why not the others?
Only just got the double meaning of “putting D dorian above the key signature of C” :-) Yes, I mean both.
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I was alluding to 'how do we know there's a key sig. actually there?' as C has an invisible one...
@Tim - at least the way I'm used to using the terms, "accidental" means "a tone within a piece that's been altered away from the key (or mode) of the piece, by means of a sharp (or flat, etc) sign". I wouldn't call the F# and C# signs in a key (or mode) signature "accidentals". And while I find the distinction between "keys" and "modes" to be an historical artificiality, I usually go along with convention and say "the key of C major" and "the mode of D dorian". I don't know what's considered "correct", but as far as I know, there's no "correct" usage that doesn't fall apart somewhere.

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