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@Tᴚoɯɐuo I'm saying "fourth helpings at every meal" is not precise AND that the context doesn't specify any details about what these helpings consisted of; i.e. whether it's a fourth serving of a single item or a fourth plate. It only specifies that at every meal Molly compelled him to consume 4 helpings.
@Tᴚoɯɐuo There is nothing special about "second breakfast" in phrasing, but note a) it's a singular noun outright (you don't find "Bilbo and the dwarfs had second breakfasts"). and b) the ordinal serves to distinguish it from the breakfast preceding it which other peoples are familiar with
Elevenses is in origination, yes a plural. No, there is nothing reminiscent of it nor "second breakfast" in the line "forced him to eat fourth helpings". I never even considered such a parsing until you proposed it.