Pin 13

AsheeshR

02:22

@sachleen +3 and accepted in 7 minutes. That must be a record!

3

A: How can I sense very high temperatures with Arduino?

You probably want to use a thermocouple. It'll give you the ability to measure much higher temps than regular temperature sensor. You'll also need a IC like the MAX6675 to interface with it. The MAX6675 performs cold-junction compensation and digitizes the signal from a type-K thermocouple....

sachleen

lol

i do wonder though, are these kinds of questions really on topic for arduino

im still not sure what the scope of this SE really is

AsheeshR

They are fine, IMO. A large part of using and creating stuff using Arduino involves project design.

Which involves searching for and selection of compatible components.

sachleen

right but this has nothing to do with arduino specifically. so really, we're establishing the scope of this SE as a noob friendly electronics project SE

i agree that if we limit to only ones that specifically deal with arduino (not general electronics) then we'd have like 5 questions...

AsheeshR

we will have more of arduino specific questions than that once our community expands

i see us a platform for Arduino related queries, a part of which involves electronics projects help.

sachleen

yeah, that seems fair

AsheeshR

02:30

I keep comparing us to AskUbuntu. They get a mix of Ubuntu internals, Ubuntu specific, and Ubuntu application questions.

We will most likely have the same type of scope. Arduino internal, arduino specific (usage and debugging), and arduino based (sensors, libraries and components).

AsheeshR

07:33

One question where the Raspberry Pi tag might actually make sense.

0

Q: Redirecting Arduino Serial Output to a File

I am integrating the MPU-6050 Accelerometer + Gyro sensor into a large project that contains 12 Arduino boards and 6 Raspberry Pis. At some point, I will have to load the output of my MPU-6050 sensor into another application through command line. The process is to be all done with Python and Bash...

arduino-uno

Stack Exchange

10:49

1

Q: Blog / Project of the month?

It might be a bit early for things like this, but (since there are so many interesting and surprising things being done with Arduino) how about some kind of rolling community interaction and showcasing a bit like photography.SE's photo of the week, where people post interesting Arduino projects t...

discussion

Cybergibbons

13:56

I have to say that the answers I am getting are of a much better quality than reddit or forums provide.

The Guy with The Hat

14:06

@Cybergibbons That's what SE is for! :)

zmo

@Cybergibbons you did not try the avrfreaks community though

when I'm really stuck and nobody can help me, then I ask there, and I always get a really wise answer

those guy really rock :-)

btw, I asked a question on meta: meta.arduino.stackexchange.com/questions/129/…

it's really not meant as a troll, but each time I see a question and vote/answer to it

I always feel like I could have answered that question on EE or SO or SU

only a few questions would need a specific site, but not a product oriented one...

Stack Exchange

0

Q: How relevant is arduino SE?

I know this may seem as a troll, while the beta is going on and the community is building up, but I'm sincerely wondering how relevant is a site such as Arduino SE (same question applies to the Raspberry Pi Q&A site). The SE network has begun with Q&A sites oriented by "concerns" not by technolog...

discussion site-scope stackexchange

AsheeshR

14:23

@zmo So you would be fine with Arduino on Askbot but not with Arduino.SE?

zmo

@AsheeshR I think a askbot arduino Q&A ran by the arduino community and integrated to the arduino.cc site running as some kind of FAQ/forum replacement would be fine

but what I like about SE is to have a global KB

not build the FAQ for a product

AsheeshR

@zmo There are quite a few. SE is evolving.

Tor

Blender

zmo

well, afaict there is RPi, Arduino, WindowsPhone and askdifferent

AsheeshR

Tridion

zmo

blender, django

AsheeshR

14:31

Magento

zmo

somehow mathematica

and android

AsheeshR

ExpressionEngine® Answers , etc...

zmo

I even worder about unix/linux

and btw, there's unix/linux, askdifferent, but no windows specific Q&A

Peter R. Bloomfield

the slightly different thing about Arduino is that it's not just a product (i.e. from a single vendor)... it represents various standard bits of hardware which are being replicated / adapted / expanded by other vendors

zmo

there's android/windowsphone but no iOS community (not even talking about meego/jolla)

@PeterR.Bloomfield and so? it's a good reason to keep those as a tag on existing Q&As and missing Q&As

I definitely agree there's a missing Q&A, but I don't think arduino SE is the answer

AsheeshR

14:34

Many of the SE sites are about platforms, and they work well. So, yes, while things may seem to get diluted, it also helps establish and get together people with specialised knowledge and skill-sets.

This over time, IMO, leads to more interesting problems and innovative solutions.

zmo

I think that a site such as arduino SE will drain duplicates, or on the contrary diluted

AsheeshR

You are forgetting, we are yet to establish a core expert community.

7-8 people dont make up an expert community.

zmo

but my question has many aspects, it's not only about community, but also on how relevant this is

now that we have high end arduinos like the Yun, the Due or the Galileo (and certainly a few other ones)

what's the real difference with a rasppi?

and it's definitely possible to use the arduino framework on other MCUs or systems

Peter R. Bloomfield

To use a cliche, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. We've got a reasonably good start here, and I think it would be a mistake to abandon it without seeing where it could go. If we fail to establish a community, or if everybody goes somewhere else, then so be it. Alternatively, it might grow into something really useful.

zmo

got a friend who ported the arduino framework on the MSP430

@PeterR.Bloomfield but I'm afraid of side effects, having the arduino shadowing all the other projects by draining all the attention of the embedded world, whereas arduino is a set of tools, and far from being the greatest ones

AsheeshR

14:40

Just a point: over the past two years or so, the focus of SE has been towards building "communities" that generate knowledge rather than sites that contain knowledge.

zmo

from 100% pure AVR questions, like those asked and discussed on avrfreaks, to 0% AVR/Arduino related questions

AsheeshR

@zmo Thats hardly an argument related to Arduino.SE. Thats more of a philosophical debate.

zmo

that's relevant to what questions are relevant on Arduino.SE, and what questions would be excluded from here

and what about the xpcc framework that's a real improvement over arduinos? and what about the reprap firmwares that are built using the same technologies, some of them being interoperable with arduino libraries?

are those in-topic? if not where would they be redirected?

Peter R. Bloomfield

There will always be lots of fringe topics. How far our scope should extend really depends on how the community develops.

I think trying to define everything now is a mistake.

AsheeshR

@PeterR.Bloomfield Agreed.

Changing the topic: I am assuming that the +5/-0 on this post means that we have a fair bit of interest in something being organized.

Peter R. Bloomfield

14:54

@AsheeshR I guess so. :) It's hard to know how to organise something I guess, because SE doesn't lend itself well to 'events' for the most part.

We'd presumably have to host something somewhere else.

AsheeshR

@PeterR.Bloomfield On the contrary, it does provide enough ;)

Peter R. Bloomfield

@AsheeshR What did you have in mind?

AsheeshR

@PeterR.Bloomfield Take a look at arduino.stackexchange.com/admin/community-events

Peter R. Bloomfield

I've seen that actually, but I wasn't sure how we could really use it at this stage. What sort of event would we do using SE?

AsheeshR

@PeterR.Bloomfield For now, I have just this in mind. meta.arduino.stackexchange.com/a/126/65

Instead of chat, we could do it on meta or main, depending on what you guys think of.

However, that will require a lot of proactive moderation on the part of you, sachleen, and Annonomous.

Specially, if we do it on main.

Peter R. Bloomfield

14:59

@AsheeshR I think one of our goals at this stage should be exposure and encouraging more people to join us, so having something hidden away on chat or meta might not be the best.

Maybe we could have an event-specific question on main, and people can add their projects as answers?

AsheeshR

@PeterR.Bloomfield Exactly what I had in mind.

Peter R. Bloomfield

It would obviously be on the proviso that that sort of question isn't normally permitted.

AsheeshR

This has been done on some other sites, and is the format used for competitions/contests.

Peter R. Bloomfield

@AsheeshR Cool. Well that sounds good then.

@AsheeshR Maybe you could edit your post on meta to include the main question idea?

AsheeshR

@PeterR.Bloomfield We should probably get the opinions' of @sachleen and @AnnonomusPerson.

Peter R. Bloomfield

15:03

@AsheeshR Definitely. Float it within the community as well to see what they say.

if anything...

AsheeshR

@PeterR.Bloomfield The tag featured is (the proxy) for that. It pins posts on the Community Bulletin for 30 days, or till the tag is removed.

Peter R. Bloomfield

@AsheeshR I assume only mods can add that tag? :)

AsheeshR

@PeterR.Bloomfield Yes. Use it wisely and sparingly :P

Peter R. Bloomfield

Done.

AsheeshR

Hey @JohnB

JohnB

15:12

Hello!

AsheeshR

@PeterR.Bloomfield It would be even cooler if we could give some sort of prize for the most interesting project.

Peter R. Bloomfield

@AsheeshR Some of us could offer a rep bounty.

AsheeshR

@PeterR.Bloomfield One would be enough :)

@PeterR.Bloomfield Maybe, whoever posts the question could put up the bounty = rep gained on the question.

Peter R. Bloomfield

@AsheeshR If we get quite a few entries, it might be nice to have more than one category... e.g. "best use of sensors" and so on.

AsheeshR

@PeterR.Bloomfield That may get complicated.

Peter R. Bloomfield

15:16

@AsheeshR Good idea.

@AsheeshR True, can't exactly organise multiple votes in a single question. Fair enough.

JohnB

Another idea: a hackathon would be awesome, but difficult to organize

AsheeshR

@JohnB Online? Across time zones?

JohnB

Yep, I've done a few 48 hour ones

done as in participated, not organized

AsheeshR

@JohnB I participated in one competitive coding competition once, 24 hours continuously.

JohnB

Was there a particular focus?

AsheeshR

15:19

ieee.org/membership_services/membership/students/competitions/…

Participated twice in fact.

JohnB

Cool

AsheeshR

@JohnB One of the things to remember though that you have real people around you at all times in a hackathon.

Which acts as a strong motivator.

@JohnB What did you participate in?

JohnB

usually what makes online hackathons work is that the project can be deployed by anyone. That wouldn't work very well with Arduinos, different people have different hardware

@AsheeshR nodeknockout.com and staticshowdown.com

AsheeshR

@JohnB Awesome!

btw, take a look at this if you get time. All opinions welcome :)

@JohnB Thats going to be a major problem.

@PeterR.Bloomfield That leaves out one other important issue. CW or not to CW.

Too much activity on any post this early, could really skew things which has an impact on the moderation being done by active users within the site.

Peter R. Bloomfield

@AsheeshR Good point. CW sounds like a good way to go. If we need some rep for a prize then I'm happy to give it myself. A couple hundred should suffice I would think.

AsheeshR

15:31

I hate it when votes are so skewed even though both answers are equally valid and accurate.

zmo

16:36

hum... I should read again the exact definition of boilerplate :->

boilerplate can be used as a "non-necessary thing that adds some overhead"?

sachleen

17:59

i like the idea of having a best project thing

Annonomus Person

21:50

@Sachleen @Peter @zmo @Ash Are we talking about this?:

sachleen

idk

Annonomus Person

2

A: What should we do for Arduino Day 2014?

Project Showoff Day/Week! Arduino hackers are almost always working on creating something interesting. Lets have an event inviting users to post pictures and descriptions of their coolest projects, and we could drool over discuss them. To participate, the user must post: Atleast one pic...

0

A: Blog / Project of the month?

What's the point of linking users out of the site? Why can't we hold a contest? I love the idea. However, I don't really know how valuable it would be to link users out of the site unless we just wanted recurring visitors. Not to mention, it'll be link-only answers galore. A better solution woul...

sachleen

i wasnt part of the original discussion

Annonomus Person

@sachleen K.

@PeterR.Bloomfield I wonder if there's a way for these purposes to do a "community bounty" or something... I don't know. I would bounty it myself, but my reputation isn't that high. The times I use the site most of the questions are picked over.

The reason I'm wondering is if we could do a weekly/monthly thing... one time is fine but to lose a couple grand a year for a contest seems a bit steep this early on. Now if you were John Skeet... :)

sachleen

22:14

ima be the jon skeet of ardiuio.se

thats my goal

in life

(jk)

Annonomus Person

@sachleen :)

That was my goal too but it isn't going to well...

I'm on at times like this when nobody asks questions.

@Sachleen How would you feel about doing the monthly contest?

Peter R. Bloomfield

22:41

@AnnonomusPerson I think it's too early to actually organise a monthly thing at this point. We should just focus on doing something for the Arduino day.

Annonomus Person

@PeterR.Bloomfield True point. We may want to also see how this goes. If we have a lot of participation, we may choose to extend it if we can verify that people have more projects or if we choose a different topic.

But the core user base isn't that big so we'd have to try to get more users on the site.

Peter R. Bloomfield

I think the idea of doing a bounty as a prize is entirely possible though. I'm happy to front the rep for it.

Annonomus Person

@PeterR.Bloomfield Yes, agreed. I'd fund it, but my rep is a little low: it seems like most of the questions are answered when I get on. I do add more answers, but the users that vote mostly already have read the questions. :)

I'm trying to make some unique Q&A style questions, although.

sachleen

22:59

we could do a one off contest on arduino day

and see how itgoes

Annonomus Person

@sachleen What do you mean by "one off"?

sachleen

a pilot sort of

if it goes well, do more

then eventually make it a regular thing

Annonomus Person

@sachleen I agree.

@peter @sachleen Too bad we couldn't make some sort of badge or something that we could award... do other sites have specialized badges?

Peter R. Bloomfield

@AnnonomusPerson not that I'm aware of

Annonomus Person

@PeterR.Bloomfield Too bad.

Transcript for