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Q: Columbian exchange in European grades K-12

Alvaro FuentesI went through K-12 partly in Mexico and partly in the US. Children in both educational systems are taught at some point that certain products are native to the Americas and others arrived with the European colonizers. Now I live in Germany, and I recently discovered that this is not a topic tha...

 
I think this might be better answered by teachers rather than historians. At a guess it's because of time constraints - there's only so much history you can teach in the time given to history lessons and European schools will tend to prioritise European history over American history.
 
My point is that this exchange is also European history. I agree that teachers will have the answer.
 
"European history" is way too broad, and each country prioritizes "local" history. I am from Spain and, IIRC, in high school (let alone K-12) the first references to the history of Poland and Russia were from the Napoleonic Wars (and even then,with little detail; Russia was just explained as "broke the Continental System, Napoleon invaded, advanced and was defeated" and Poland "annexed by Russia after the Congress of Viena"); and the first references to Sweden to its implication in the Thirty Years Wars (and after that, I do not remember any more references until WWI or perhaps WWII).
 
Should note that US schools don't really teach this either. Chilies (and thus all spicy food) came from the Americas, and I only learned that one a couple years ago myself.
 
@T.E.D. I disagree. The Columbian Exchange always came up around Thanksgiving (at least in Utah, where I did high school). Also, fun fact: people outside the Americas spiced up their food with black pepper, mustard, radish, wasabi, and other such ingredients before Columbus came along. Still, I have a friend from India who was shocked to hear that all chilli peppers only entered his cuisine a few hundred years ago :)
 
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@AlvaroFuentes - Interesting. I wonder how universal that is. I'm mostly familiar with Oklahoma schools (but both in the 70's and 80's and in the last 2 decades with my own kids). I know curricula is generally a statewide thing.
 
Note that I had to look up "K-12" to make sense of your question... I had never heard that term before. (I know what "K-9" means, though. ;-) )
 
@DevSolar close enough :)
 
@T.E.D. "Chilies (and thus all spicy food)". Black pepper and its relatives, and Sichuan pepper both definitely produce spicy food and are native to Asia. (I'm restricting here to "hot" spices; there are many aromatic spices that could cause food to be described as "spicy" but it's obvious that you're not talking about those.)
 
@Alvaro Fuentes: Not just chili peppers, but potatos, tomatos, sweet corn, and more.
 
@DavidRicherby - OK, I have moved this conversation to chat, in part because it was already way OT, but cheifly because this particular mistaken sentiment is yet another misunderstanding that can be traced back to Christopher Columbus, and I feel a duty as someone who cares about history to stop its perpetuation.
Fortunately, someone else has already written the attack, so I can just quote Denver Nicks' excellent history of the Chile in the first chapter of Hot Sauce Nation, rather than try to compose it myself:
> Columbus's misidentification of the chili as pepper has been a source of much confusion ever since. Though in broad strokes they may have some similarities - it's fair to say that the two are both pungent - black pepper and chili are chemically and botanically distinct.
> Piper nigrum, the scientific name for black pepper, is a vine under the taconomic family Piperacaea that grows natively in the jungles of southern India. ...
> Chilies, on the other hand, fall under the taxonomic family Solanaceae, or nightshade, which includes other important crops like tomatoes and potatoes. Many plants in the family (for example tobacco) contain alkaloids, chemical compounds that are often poisonous and/or psychoactive in humans,
> such as nicotine, caffeine, morphine, cocaine, and the most widely used and abused of them all, found only in the chili pepper: capsaicin.
> Chili peppers have unique tastes and aromas across a wid spectrum, owing to varying combinations of hundres of different chemical compounds. The main compound, though, is called alkylmethoxypyrazine ...., is that classic bell pepper taste.
(skipping past some irrelevant food chemistry here)...
> By stimulating the nerve endings in the mouth and skin, capsaicin triggers the production of a neurotransmitter called substance P, which signals to the brains that the body is in pain, specifically because it is on fire. The same reaction takes place when the nerves come in contact with heat above 109 degrees Fahrenheit....
(more fascinating food chemistry stuff in several paragraphs skipped)
> To reiterate, lest the point is lost: before 1493 no food outside the Western Hemisphere contained any trace of capsaicin, which is to say that the sensation of "spicy" - in the sense that we most often mean it, as the burning sensation that capsaicin simulates - did not exit in the Old World. Thai food was not spicy. Neither were the cuisines of Calabria, Hungary, Senegal, Ethiopia, Malaysia, or Tunisia.
> Sichuan food may have given a tingling sensation, owing to the use of Sichuan peppercorns, which are unrelated to chilies, but neither it nor any other dish in the whole of China was spicy in the way of chilies.
 
 
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@T.E.D. That is curious. Do you T.E.D. use 'spicy' in that way? Is that not more like "hot". Re-checked a couple dictionaries and it is always just listing 'copious amounts of spices'. That would then make Columbus journey quite a success, and precog, as he is said to have set sail to find a way to the spices…
 
@LangLangC Yes, I do. Something with lots of Oregano in it is not "spicy".
 
@T.E.D. Then I am quite sure there is also one of these maps that picture this as a regionalism? Clearly sth with Piper nigrum or Zingiber officinale is also spicy/hot. But indeed I find it very strange what is called *-pepper around the globe. WP describes capsaicin as pungent…
 
Got me. The bit that piqued your curiosity was a quote from Nicks, but according to the back of the book he's from Tulsa like me, so that doesn't exactly widen the usage.
 
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@T.E.D. But now, after I tried to describe knowledgeability about that original 'exchange', I learned another detail that was lost on me. Allspice is a native American… Ah, all those spices
 

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