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Q: Did Og exist or was he a metaphor?

user17072Did Og exist or was he a metaphor? I am asking this because we did not find any giant bones in the fossil record as to date. It also doesn’t seem to make sense to me since Judaism is the religion of reason.

What if he existed, but the fantastic dimensions ascribed to him are not true?
Why would we find Og's bones in the fossil record? He was one man out of how many? Not to mention bones only fossilize under certain, limited conditions.
The question was if he was metaphor. If not then his bones and other giants should show up soon. Judaism is a religion of reason. Not superstition.
Not necessarily. You obviously do not understand how fossils work. Not every bone that is buried becomes a fossil. Not even over millions of years. In addition, just because we have not found giant bones does not discount the validity of there possibly have been giants in the world. We haven't found Moses' bones, but that doesn't make Moses a fictional character.
If your question is was Og as huge as he is made out to be, then it might be a duplicate of: Belief in Midrashim.
So you are saying if Og is only mentioned in Midrashim, then he might be metaphor? Correct?
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@user17072 Og is mentioned outside off midrashim as well. It's the particularly gigantic size of Og that comes from midrashim.
Since midrashim is sometimes taken as metaphor, we can conclude that Og wasn’t really a giant. What about him living since Noach til Moshe? Is his long lifespan also midrashim?
I read somewhere on Judaism stackexchange that Adam’s long life span was metaphor for his dynasty. Can this also be true for Og?
The Torah describes Og's bed to describe how large he was - so he was large. He also existed since the entire nation battled him and conquered his land. What is the question????
"Judaism is a religion of reason.Not superstition." You're argument seems to centre around defining what's reason and superstition, and then deciding what falls short
I'm not sure I understand the question. Og is explicitly mentioned in the Torah as a being that existed. Are you asking whether the Torah spoke metaphorically (which I'm certain is a duplicate of some question here...)? If so, how is this different from the dozens of other 'fantastical' things mentioned in the Torah?
There was a 15-foot mummy that was once on display in a museum but was stolen on the way to another museum for an exhibit about 100 years ago.. Also, run a search for "giant teeth in the midwest" and you'll see some fascinating images.
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Conspiracy. Torah is about reason. Not myths and legend. G-d desires that we use our logic and not superstition.
Photos were probably photoshopped and the giant mummy doesn’t exist because it is lost. The Book of Mormon can also be true since the golden tables are also lost. We go by reason not superstition.
Dude, these are facts.
The question is ill-phrased: 1. Bring sources for your claims (Og was huge - bring a source, Judaism is the religion of reason - bring a source). It is easier to disprove sources than general ideas. 2. How Og is different from all other characters in Tanach - was Noah real, was Adam real etc. Please specify why. 3. Keep a neutral tone, don't take a side (like you say "it doesn't make sense to me"), it makes the question insincere.
Adam and Noach were real. Og was real. But how can Og live since Noach until Moshe. This has to be a midrash and is hence a metaphor. Judaism is the religion of reason because it is the true religion. Mohammed sliced the moon if half. Jesus turned water into wine. Obviously these two religions are fake because they sound ridiculous. Hence Judaism is the only religion of reason as Rabbi Moshe Ben-Chaim’s explanation suggest.
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@user17072 Your argument is poor. Mohammed slicing the moon in half (which is probably metaphorical anyways, I'm no expert on Islam) and Jesus turning water into wine are miracles that are no more crazy than other miracles occuring in the Tanach (e.g. Splitting the Yam Suph, Elisha raising a dead boy to life, etc.) Judaism is not necessarily the "true religion" because it is rational or reasonable. That's a very bad way to view belief.
If you rely on physical evidence to back up religion 100% of the time, then a lot of walls are going to fall down.
 
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@ezra Judaism is the only religion there is. Why? Because it is sensible and reasonable. No other religion relies on logic and science such as Judaism. Judaism confirms, evolution, billions of year old universe, big bang, earth rotes round sun, earth round, gravity, atoms, prediction of telephones, etc. Hence, Judaism is the true religion.
@ezra Judaism is more than a history or science book. The Torah is G-d's given Law. Torah means instruction or teachings. This is why according to the Rambam, everything up to Abraham was metaphor. Hence, Og could not have lived in the days of Noach. Rambam did not bile in miracles. Jesus turned water into wine. Obviously, anyone with a brain in his head will know that that is a foolish notion to believe in. G-d does not do foolish actions. Mt. Sinai is the only mass miracle there is.
I debated a reformed hindu once and destroyed his silly religion. Why? because his god was invented a hundred years ago and copied Judaism. In fact, the name Veda comes from Abraham's gifts to the east. Hence, Judaism pre-dated Hinduism. Of course no Jew existed till Mt. Sinai. Judaism did not exist yet. But Adam had the Torah (law) and the wisdom of Kabbalah. Hebrew was the first language. In fact, G-d created the world using this dive tongue, not that G-d has a mouth to speak out of.

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