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05:33
@XanderHenderson you put your finger exactly on the problem. Because it's pointless. For some reason, people realise it doesn't make sense after posting the answer (like me)
:p
 
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08:14
@AbramIvanov Amazing recommendation
 
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14:22
@sai-kartik No, I'm thinking of things like "......................" as an answer, deleted five seconds after it is posted.
Accidental postings to torture veteran people who see it and go, "Why, oh why, do some users post a pointless answer, then immediately delete it?!" :P
That seems very plausible.
Being cynical, I often wonder if this is done to reserve an answer slot on a question which is likely to be closed.
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Or to reserve the FIRST! answer slot on such a question.
@XanderHenderson Is that of any use?
@Safdar Define "use".
@XanderHenderson Well... Umm...
It is being closed, so it normally means people wouldn't look further right? Especially on MSE, where there is a pretty large number of Questions.
14:38
@XanderHenderson weird
Guys guess what
@sai-kartik I'm not your guy, pal.
My state's health minister tested positive for the 'rona
@XanderHenderson I was addressing the crowd in general 😅
@sai-kartik Well he was dedicated to the cause, I guess..
@Safdar at least that's what he said on his tweet
14:52
@XanderHenderson So not your buddy guy..
@XanderHenderson Change your user name to Oscar Henderson:
Oscar "the Grouch" Henderson! i.sstatic.net/N4Gn8.png?s=32&g=1
15:11
@amWhy Oscar is probably doing quite well under 'rona conditions. He don't wanna see no one, anyway!
 
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18:20
@OmarS glad you liked it
@OmarS see if you like this one too
18:47
Where oh where is this room's namesake, @quid? ;D
@amWhy hello!
A wild @quid has appeared!
@quid ello!
@amWhy llo!
@quid o!
18:55
@amWhy !
@quid You win! :)
@amWhy \o/
@quid /o\
@amWhy \o\ \o/ /o/
@quid Doing calisthenics, are we? Or some dance moves? :-)
@quid Your comment below this meta post struck me as a little harsh, or confrontative.
I can understand your request for clarity, but the tone of your comment struck me as like you were feeling annoyed by the post.
@amWhy to be honest the post seemed pointless to me.
Still does actually.
@quid I think it is appropriate to remind users and discourage them from engaging in editing binges. 20/25 or 20/50 posts bumped to the front page due to trivial edits is not desirable. Particularly is such edits are made to enable an answerer to gain a badge in said a tag due to an editing binge. I have seen far more pointless posts on meta, than the one you disparaged.
@amWhy thus the user can/should be reminded, this is content of my comment. A meta post is not a good way to remind one user. It's not a big deal, but the meta post was inappropriate.
@quid Such questions to not address one sole user, but all users. Such questions help establish consensus and protocol.
19:16
@amWhy then it should be phrased as such and not put the title of one tag in the title etc.
It's not a bid deal, but it's not an appropriate meta post.
@quid Sure, but you could have suggested that, instead of demeaning the poster.
@quid I think other's believe otherwise. And I wish you'd apply the same logic to other meta posts that are truly inappropriate, which you rarely do. So I am a bit surprised that you chose to accost this particular post.
@amWhy who exactly and why?
@amWhy I asked what their purpose was and gave a curt answer.
I will take on board that you considered the tone as not friendly enough.
Other than that I'll see what use comes out of that particular post.
A 10k+ user with some meta experience should know better.
@quid Please don't resort to trying to shame others. A moderator should know better than to respond in such a hostile manner as you did. That alone is enough, at times, to shut a meta post down. I did not bring this up to argue with you; just to suggest that your refusal to be receptive to concerns about overzealous editing by 15K + rep users may be a bit blind-sighted.
@amWhy what did you just do on meta?
@amWhy what does not being receptive mean, I said they should tell them directly or raise a flag (if they don't want to do that).
@quid Nothing offensive. Nothing curt, nothing dismissive, like your comment.
19:27
@amWhy that lies in the eye of the beholder.
@quid You've chosen to auto-evaluate my comments as problematic, and yours as justified. That's your bias, not mine.
Further I had checked part of the edits, they did not seem that bad.
@amWhy and what did you do?
You said, or at least implied, mine was problematic, while yours is fine.
An then you lecture me about my bias. Right I might be biased, but you as well.
@quid I reviewed suggested edits, and voted accordingly. You suggested you had every right to say what you said and it was justified, then you attacked my one and only comment. You suggested that your comment was fine and mine problematic, before I suggested the alternative.
Look in the mirror, @quid, before you point fingers.
@amWhy the situation is at least symmetric. I acknowledged your concern that the comment might not be friendly enough.
While you dismissed my remark.
I also conceded that the comment is not overly welcoming or friendly, but in fact intentionally expresses a certain level of disapproval regarding that particular post.
19:48
@amWhy on that point, which I had no knowledge of until you brought it up, so what exactly is the issue with creating that tag wiki? If the tag should not exist in anyone opinion, alright, let us discuss that, but to reject the creation of a tag wiki excerpt, the point of this would need to be explained.
Well, I don't micro-mange such things so you do as you see fit.
But to reject a suggested tag wiki edit because there were too many regular edits would be a strange thing to do. But maybe there was another reason.
20:49
@quid And no one else can do the same, about, say, your comment? Or, no one else can intentionally express a certain level of disapproval regarding a particular post or a particular comment?
^^^Or can only moderators express disapproval of posts and/or comments? Practice what you preach.
@amWhy it seems to me that you did express a critical opinion, and I said that I will take it on board.
It is not very clear what exactly you want now.
@quid Sure, here I did. Not on main and not on meta. You say: "It is not very clear what exactly you want now." Sounds like you wrote that in the same tone you wrote your comment first comment on the meta post. ("What exactly is the point of this meta post? What do you want to discuss?") It is not very clear what your problem is.
@amWhy indeed I did as once again I am annoyed. If you have a particular concern please formulate it clearly.
@quid It is not very clear what exactly you want now.
@amWhy to be told what the specific concern is or to be left alone.
21:01
@quid Me too. Practice what you preach. Don't bully users for disagreeing with you. And allow them to say what they disagree with, and why. And I did both of those: I disagreed with you, and I told you why. So leave me alone, if you have nothing more to say.
@amWhy the issue on meta was not so much one of disagreeing with me but one of not following proper procedures and being unclear.
It is also not clear what the specific point of disagreement between us is.
@quid Claiming ignorance is quite convenient. Feigning ignorance is far worse.
@amWhy do you think the meta post was appropriate?
It pointed out, not to say denounced, the actions of one particular user.
This is something which should, if at all, be done via a flag or maybe in our chat.
Not via a meta post.
On top of it, it was vague in that it did not spell out what the specific issue is. It seemed at first it was about the tag, but then maybe it was more broadly about too many edits.
Here, you formulated an even more specific concern.
It does not seem to me that of the first tagged ones overly many involve the tag creator directly.
21:41
@quid I just think sometimes you choose selectively who you hammer and who you placate. And it was evident in this particular case.
@amWhy it is no doubt true that there is some variance. I was not in the best of moods to begin with when I saw that post, which may have played a role, too.
@quid It's okay. I'm sure that's true of pretty much all of us, too.
@quid Just let's not propose a bot to respond to meta questions! ;D
@amWhy we had a bot once to respond to posts on main. Do you recall?
@quid Yes I do! Initials N.H.?
@amWhy yes
21:48
@quid I am more sympathetic than ever to the efforts of that bot creator!
@quid What would we name a mod bot? Abnormal H.? or Normal Moderator Boterator?
Normal Bot.
@quid Just as long as it isn't related to the dismal election bot! ;D
You really did not like that one.
@quid How'd you know?! But you're right!
A likely more sophisticated bot: Does God exist?; see also: When will the world end?.
22:12
@amWhy I heard it can also solve some integrals.
@quid Indeed! and much more! But it also has a sense of humor! (or rather, it's programmers do!)

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