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7:53 AM
@AndrasDeak--СлаваУкраїні Still One Piece, you have Carrot on top and Yamato on bottom. Yamato is a new character introduced at the end of the Wano arc and basically shoehorned in "potential new crew member" role from the start. At the same time, Carrot is sidewritten to marginal role during all the arc.
Becomes even more suspicious if you consider the "similarities" in some behaviors the two have - the pannels are meant to point out that.
Even Yamato transformation (middle one on second row) despite being based on Amateratsu wolf form (see Okami for example) looks quite similar to Carrot's (the middle one on the first row)
Still a stretch comparison mind you but... when you consider the whole picture you do wonder. Yamato is also an Oni, so why a form based on Amateratsu? I mean.. I get that the character is portrayed as the protector of a country based on Japan so Amateratsu is very fitting... yet it feels kinda weird
@AndrasDeak--СлаваУкраїні probably because that is not just an exercise in language like we love to do her but an actual attempt at understanding what the character intended nature is, disturbed by trolls on one side and the author unclear representation on the other.
@AndrasDeak--СлаваУкраїні Nope. You can emulate a console. You can't copy its firmware unless you "own" it somehow (owning in general "licensed to use" meaning). So, you can safely write a NES emulator but while you can write a PS1 one you should try to avoid depending on the console firmware and you should not distribute it with the emulator. Yet you could duplicate the firmware api.
The guy who made MAME - the multi platform arcade machines emulator - used it as it graduation thesis and even passed with full marks with honors. He is Italian if I remember correctly.
@AndrasDeak--СлаваУкраїні also worth considering is this:
America / Disney: the "animal girl" characters has very distinctive "animal" facial traits.
Consider for example the Enchantimals dolls and show I mentioned before
The rabbit girl has a rabbit face with animal nose and mouth shape.
Now... look at the average "cat girl" in anime.
Kemono Friends is a franchise made by Sega (== Sonic). I think it started as a gacha game and then got an actual tv show.
all the characters but one are supposed to be "animal girls". Do you see any animal feature other than tail and ears?
best case you get the "cat mouth" ( ⓛ ω ⓛ ) in some frames, but only because the Japanese find that very cute (so cute it is just used as a "smirk" in many anime, even when the character is not a cat)
Even anime like Monster Musume (mostly fanservice I think, but the premise is also about "monster girls") mostly limit the "animal" traits to legs/arms without touching the face or -surprise surprise - the chest area.
"Cat girl" in anime means "cat ears and a tail".
So... I am not surprised if many One Piece fans opposed what they probably called "furry character" and I would be even less surprised if the author decided to drop the character because of that. Like I said, people ranted about Chopper before...
 
 
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12:00 PM
@SPArcheon oooh I didn't get that this was the same manga. That's crazy!
@SPArcheon yeah, I get the fans wanting to figure out the character. Then again "we don't know, they might not know either" could be a valid stance. Many people dislike pigeonholing/labelling.
@SPArcheon huh, thanks. I don't know what I remembered, then. I might try looking it up later.
@SPArcheon very nice
@SPArcheon yeah, those are all cosplayers rather than animals
I can't even tell which of the two earless ones are supposed to be more human
@SPArcheon uwu
@SPArcheon all things considered that's very silly, and a sad state of affairs if that's what happened. I would hope that these annoying fans are the minority and that the author won't be pursuaded by pointless and trolly angry wailing.
 
@AndrasDeak--СлаваУкраїні also worth noticing that Yamato literally comes out of nowhere. They are tied to pre-estabilished fact and such, but it feels a little odd. For example, Yamato is Kaido son/daughter/unclear article (how will "they" save us now?) and Ace old friend, yet there is no mention at all of them until the very end of the Wano arc.
 
child? :P
offspring
perhaps it's just that people found her as uncanny as I do :P
 
@AndrasDeak--СлаваУкраїні It is also very suspect that Blackbeard crew somehow mirrors Luffy one.
Suppose that they go to the moon like I expect...
Guess who is on the moon? Remember the name Eneru/Enel I mentioned before?
... he uses lighting base powers...
Now...what character do we know that fits the moon theme and use electricity?
 
and has two long ears and two sharp incisors?
 
yep.
 
12:14 PM
well I hope it won't become another version of Lost due to editorial/fanservice meddling
the things you've told me so far make it sound like the author had a very clear idea of the overarching metaplot, so it would be weird for them to subvert their own long-standing plans for dumb reasons
 
oh, well... I guess she will forever get a special place in my heart next to another character that gets suspiciously few appearances given his gender identity...
 
Bentham, starts as an enemy, becomes their friend, saves Luffy life at least TRICE
Far more determined than you would believe, was quite accepted by the fans thanks to some quite epic scenes.
 
So he's male, just gender-nonconforming in his appearance?
 
@AndrasDeak--СлаваУкраїні nope, he is indeed gender atypical by his own words.
I use "he" just because he has an odd way of speaking that is most lost outside Japanese.
I think he does use male pronouns mixed with typically female phrasing
 
12:25 PM
ah, I see
so probably enby
 
short version, they were it with every sort of censorship you would expect.
Results... while probably they was never intended as a main character... now they are lost in limbo.
 
I would not expect any censorship, to be honest :(
this seems to be a hornet's nest on its own onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Okama
 
@AndrasDeak--СлаваУкраїні It is indeed.
 
12:52 PM
On a side, you have Bentham as a quite decent character after becoming friends with Luffy crew, and even getting some decent quotes like the very rough translated "My identity can be (bent?) but my belief in friendship is as straight as it can be"
on the other you have a quite stereotypical and parody-rigged representation of a queer group, that is lead by a character that you may recognize...
 
I saw that character but it didn't ring a bell
But yeah, I couldn't determine looking at the link if it was a good or a bad kind of representation
leaning toward "bad"
 
They are identical to Frank-N-Furter
The Rocky Horror Picture Show is a 1975 musical comedy horror film by 20th Century Fox, produced by Lou Adler and Michael White and directed by Jim Sharman. The screenplay was written by Sharman and actor Richard O'Brien, who is also a member of the cast. The film is based on the 1973 musical stage production The Rocky Horror Show, with music, book, and lyrics by O'Brien. The production is a parody tribute to the science fiction and horror B movies of the 1930s through to the early 1960s. Along with O'Brien, the film stars Tim Curry, Susan Sarandon, and Barry Bostwick and is narrated by Charles...
the main character in this old musical.
 
and.. well, it is not a politically correct musical at all.
 
well, it's a really really weird musical
 
12:59 PM
@AndrasDeak--СлаваУкраїні yep, but I think you will agree that it is not the best representation of a queer identity character.
 
It's not even clear if it's a queer character. Mostly seems to be a transvestite, sexuality unclear, but there's an explicit song about "Transsexual Transylvania". Probably a very confused picture.
although it's been a long while since I saw it
 
Never even seen that.
 
1:18 PM
you're probably not missing out
 
2:08 PM
@AndrasDeak--СлаваУкраїні Guess so. Anyway, back on topic you can see how it could be seen as problematic when the "queen" of the local queer group is based on a parody character from a not-so-politically-correct musical
It is also worth noticing how Ivan (the queen from above) has the actual power to change her physical gender and the gender of others.
Therefore, you have two kinds of characters in her group.
 
well the whole caricature aspect doesn't sound very fortunate
 
The physical male that identifies as female, who if you notice look like bad caricatures and are generally ugly...
 
and the males turned into actual females at physical level
obviously the second ones gets the "one piece female" style, so impossible hourglass figure.
 
the pinnacle of female design
 
2:30 PM
@AndrasDeak--СлаваУкраїні to partially quote Frieza "And this is not even my final form the worst fanservice you get in anime"
 

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