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10:45
This aims at solving problems like: make a secure RSA public/private ker pair, of which you know the private key, such that this m enrypts to that c under textbook RSA. It is broken, well known, or klugreuter-fgrieu?
10:56
As a consequence: verifying a signature of a file against Alice's RSA public key is proof neither that the file is unchanged since signature, nor that Alice was the signer.
It was an interesting read for certain. Of course, I'm not the person to answer your questions, but I will try and dig deeper later.
11:13
@fgrieu Due to the changed order of quatification, it does no seem to cause any issues with the security of signatures.
11:36
@Maeher For sure, it in no way harms the theoretical security of RSA signature. It could fool a non-expert, though.
I do not get "order of quatification"
@fgrieu Well, that was supposed to be quantification
I wish one day I won't make typos, like my "It is broken..?" where "Is it broken..?" was meant.
the point is that the security definition would fix the key before it fixes the ciphertext, whereas this is reversed here.
Even for things like non-committing encryption the public key is fixed. So I don't see a constructive use of it either.
As in "exists x forall y" versus "forall y exists x"? Or is order a reference to time arrow? If Alice's key is certified, the date in this should be after the signature, which in an ideal world should raise alarm.
Constructive use: the signature of a file is on a trusted site. The file is not. Alice may alter the file, and manages to get her public key in the verifier's keystore (with the key identifier of the legitimate signer, if there is such thing in the signature).
The verifier, who uses crypto as a magic tool, sees that the signature verifies, and trusts the secure site to hold trusted signatures of trusted files. There is a chance than the file's alteration (if any) goes uncaught, or/and that the file is misattributed to Alice.
12:23
@fgrieu That would be a destructive use.

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