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06:22
@Nick This is incorrect for z = a = b = 1.
z = Re(z) + i·Im(z) by definition of imaginary part; check Google.
 
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10:15
@user21820 why so? def Im(complex_value): return real_value;
Imaginary part means an imaginary number.
4 hours ago, by user21820
z = Re(z) + i·Im(z) by definition of imaginary part; check Google.
An imaginary number is a complex number that can be written as a real number multiplied by the imaginary unit i, which is defined by its property i2 = −1. The square of an imaginary number bi is −b2. For example, 5i is an imaginary number, and its square is −25. Zero is considered to be both real and imaginary.Originally coined in the 17th century as a derogatory term and regarded as fictitious or useless, the concept gained wide acceptance following the work of Leonhard Euler and Carl Friedrich Gauss. An imaginary number bi can be added to a real number a to form a complex number of the form...
I can't seem to find the definition for Im() function.
Because you can't seem to follow my instruction to check Google for the definition of imaginary part.
anyone seen inclusion functions before?
@IPAddress It's a bad concept.
10:21
What makes you say that?
If A⊆B then what you want is simply the identity map on A.
Calling it an "inclusion map" is meaningless.
Probs why documentation is scarce
Uh? Mathematics doesn't rely on 'documentation'?
Then, mathematics is not a language.
But for those who treat it as such, there is documentation.
@user21820 imaginary part of a complex number. complex number, complex quantity, imaginary, imaginary number - (mathematics) a number of the form a+bi where a and b are real numbers and i is the square root of -1. pure imaginary number - an imaginary number of the form a+bi where a is 0.
b is defined as real
I get it.
@Nick Not quite. Mathematics is a sociological and historical construct, not a single language.
In mathematics, an identity function, also called an identity relation or identity map or identity transformation, is a function that always returns the same value that was used as its argument. In equations, the function is given by f(x) = x. == Definition == Formally, if M is a set, the identity function f on M is defined to be that function with domain and codomain M which satisfies f(x) = x for all elements x in M.In other words, the function value f(x) in M (that is, the codomain) is always the same input element x of M (now considered as the domain). The identity function on M is clearly...
10:24
What's the historic reason for Im(z) != ib
@Nick It's less useful to split the complex number into the summands, than to project it onto the axes.
There is no fundamental use for the purely imaginary summand in a complex number.
Hope you don't mind being cited on this. Yours is the only remark clarifying this.
@IPAddress: If you have a specific mathematics question in mind about "inclusion map", you should state it explicitly. Sometimes, mathematicians do use that term, even though I and many others never do.
@Nick Hmm... I'm sure thousands of other mathematicians have said the same thing, but it's difficult to search for such things. Nevertheless, you might be interested to read a related post (that I so happened to have written today):
== Very awkward discussion of polar coordinates == Polar interpretations of complex numbers and their mathematics can be very intuitive. Why is the discussion of complex math in polar coordinates separated by section from the rectangular coordinate interpretation? Also, the discussion of polar vs. Cartesian coordinates happens early, but is not expanded until deep in the article. Awesome results like "multiplication corresponds to multiplying their magnitudes and adding their arguments" are buried at the end of a discussion of the coordinate system, but do not appear in the multiplication section...
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A: Why is real part written first in complex numbers?

user21820It is a historical convention, and Euler himself chose it: But there are some pretty good mathematical reasons to prefer it, which might explain why Euler chose it. $ \def\lfrac#1#2{{\large\frac{#1}{#2}}} \def\rr{\mathbb{R}} $ At first, it might seem more natural to write $ai+b$, like "$ax+b$...

10:29
@user21820 thanks... just was reassuring myself if I missed any significance - it was a sentence that wasn't elaborated in a book im reading
@user21820 Good point. We could have had a notation specifying reals as an extension to the standard "imaginary" numbers.
Im not sure what $f|A:A\rightarrow{}Y$ means exactly... I know this if a function $f$ that maps the domain $A:A$ to the codomain $Y$... however not sure what the colon $A:A$ represents here
@IPAddress Is your book on an advanced topic about algebraic structures?
@user21820 no... its an introduction to university mathematics
Okay then it's really just an identity map and nothing more.
@IPAddress You're parsing this wrongly. "f : A → B" means "f is a function from A to B". "f↾A" means "the restriction of f to A". So "f↾A : A → Y" means "the restriction of f to A is a function from A to Y".
In mathematics, the restriction of a function f is a new function f | A {\displaystyle f\vert _{A}} obtained by choosing a smaller domain A for the original function f {\displaystyle f} . The notation f ↾ A {\displaystyle f{\upharpoonright _{A}}} is also used. == Formal definition == Let f ...
10:34
@user21820 I just realised
apologies
restriction as a function seems way too pedantic
@Nick Normally, you do not need it at lower levels. But my preferred way of doing mathematics is not really conventional, so that's too bad.
@user21820 I like how this is that missing piece of the defining square roots as a real valued function.
Anyway sorry but I got to go soon.
Feel free to post your inquiries here and I will respond the next time!
10:51
Surely!

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