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01:54
guys I can see that you are using MathJax for formatting equations. But in chat.stackexchange the MathJax is getting formatted into equations no matter how many times I refresh the page. Are you guys facing the same issue?
New to chat.stackexchange btw
 
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04:50
https://www.math.ucla.edu/~robjohn/math/mathjax.html


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@rash corresponding meta thread meta.stackexchange.com/questions/97938/…
 
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05:52
Let $F(x)=\int_0^x (t-1)(t-2)(t-5) \ dt $ then $F(x)\neq 0 $ for all $ x \in (0,5)$
Any idea on how to show this is true?
Thanks at @AdvilSell & @AnindyaPrithvi
@HrishabhNayal pretty sure that it has got smth to so with newton-Leibnitz formula.
06:27
@HrishabhNayal evaluate the integrand (t-1)(t-2)t-5) in the intervals of roots....desmos.com/calculator/pimssr8mhy Then say integration==area under curve.. you're done
06:56
@AnindyaPrithvi A bit lengthy ,don't you think?
Its JEE adv question, multiple answer correct type
I doubt I can do these calculations fast enough for checking just one option
07:32
@JackRod Agar physics mei tumhara BTech karte hue interest bana hai to I guess you can check out this blog (physicsafterengineering.blogspot.com) and be a part of this community
 
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09:42
@HrishabhNayal
$$\frac{dF(x)}{dx} = \frac{d}{dt}\int_0^x (t-1)(t-2)(t-5)dt $$
$$\frac{dF(x)}{dx}= (x-1)(x-2)(x-5) $$
$$dF(x)=(x^3-8x^2+17x-10)dx$$
$$F(x)=\frac{x^4}{4}-\frac{8x^3}{3}+\frac{17x^2}{2}-10x$$
From here all you have to prove is $F(x)\neq 0$ when $x\in (0,5)$.
 
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12:15
@rash I can't see how to easily show $F(x) \neq 0$ from here. All I can say is that I would have to factorise a cubic polynomial (after taking x acommon from $F(x)$) which is again a tedious task.
Also I think you accidently wrote $\frac{d}{dt}$ in first step. AFAIK it should be $$\frac{d}{dx}\int_0^x (t-1)(t-2)(t-3) \ dt$$
yes sorry it is dx not dt
explaining
you will get a cubic equation
$3x^3-32x^2+112x-10$ is the cubic you will have to solve right?
the least value is about $-800$ which you can find from using differentiation
@rash $$F(x)= \frac{x}{12}(3x^3-32x^2 +102x-120)$$
yes
find local minima & local maxima you realise.
or if you want the full solution, wait for 1h (because I have to go to work)
12:36
@HrishabhNayal better than differentiating with no objective
And fast if you approximate area using triangles
@AnindyaPrithvi how do you approximate area?
@AnindyaPrithvi how did you get height? Like $-10$ in $\frac{1}{2}(1)(-10)$
F(0), F(avg(root))
In the equation $3x^3-32x^2+102x-120$, neglect -120 first because I am gonna graph it.
So, $3x^3-32x^2+102x$ will be $x(3x^2-32x+102)$. Roughly, find the roots of quad eqn cuz in JEE you don't wanna waste time.
But in between solving the quadratic, you will come to realise the discriminant is <0
so zero is the only root to $3x^3-32x^2+102x$
Sketching the graph you will get something like this
though by hand you can't exactly draw it like that, you will get that zero is the only root
and then minus 120 the whole graph will shift downwards by 120.
from drawing graphs, you can easily find that $F(x)\neq 0$ when $x\in (0,5)$.
@AnindyaPrithvi looking at the exact graph of the function in desmos, I don't think you can approximate area under the function. The area is almost going to infinity.
 
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14:56
@rash I dont know what you graphed, but am pretty sure you did not look at my method.....secondly, your method is so lengthy that it will take atleast 15 minutes (without "desmos"), so do not quote "coz you dont wanna waste time in JEE"
wait then I will look through your method
@AnindyaPrithvi sorry I did not get what you did. Please explain
@rash To compute $F(x)=\int_{0}^x g(x)$ for x>0, it's obvious that we are finding the area under the curve for g(x)...using sign changes, you can predict that from 0 to 1, it is negative and the only positive region is (1,2) ....within the range of x=5....then either integrate g(x) in the interval 1,2 and say that the magnitude is less than the integration in the interval 0,1....or use g(avg(roots)) to get a near maximum to predict the areas using triangle...
15:20
@AnindyaPrithvi I think I dunno this method
Is it taught is class 12?
15:34
Nope, it is taught by experience

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