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02:01
Really, I didn't know until recently, I have got them in the correct time though
@AbhigyanC@AbhigyanC@AvnishKabaj@IceInkberry@Jasmine@J_B892@anybody else, do you know any other equivalent chemistry handouts for Olympiad ?
@Abcd Okay... Thanks
@Abcd Thanks... I was confused with PV or int(PdV), as int(PdV) is work, but is non zero
 
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03:22
@EshaManideep I do not, I have heard only for Physics and (Olympiad) Maths.
 
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04:31
@EshaManideep I don't know, If you are looking for some Jee related revision notes then search in scribd
05:17
in phenylene-diamine shouldn't the basicity order be p>aniline>o>m since -NH2 is not much of a bulky group and thus doesn't exhibit ortho effect. SO with ortho effect out of the picture -NH2 is very strong +M group and effect of +M>-I (for -NH2). In ortho due to hydrogen bonding its basicity is reduced. Meta position only -I. so by that reasoning para is most basic followed by aniline followed by ortho and then meta....So p>aniline>o>m....Am i going wrong anywhere?
 
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07:02
@AvnishKabaj @IceInkberry @EshaManideep @Jasmine @AbhigyanC Please share your Diels Alder Product for the above reactants.
That pic^ , you can make it s-cis by rotating about single bond
07:21
Not in syllabus
@AvnishKabaj who said?
it is in syllabus. And it is a very important reaction in synthesis.
07:36
Since no ones active here I ll ask it on main:
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Q: Regioselectivity in Diels Alder reaction

Abcd Since $\ce{-CN}$ shows strong $\ce{-I}$ effect, there will be $\delta +ve$ charge on the carbon adjacent to it. Similarly, $\ce{-NO2}$ shows strong $\ce{-I}$ and $\ce{-M}$ effects. So I this is my attempt: $\pi$ electrons are being donated to the electron deficient parts. But the answ...

07:46
@Abcd Could you please clarify my doubt?
07:58
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Q: How to rationalise the basicity order of phenylenediamine?

user14857Why is the basicity of para- > meta- > aniline > ortho- for phenylenediamine? ($\mathrm pK_\mathrm a$: ortho: 9.53, meta: 9.12, para: 7.96) I tried deducing it using resonance and inductive effects but got stuck.

oh you have already seen that
Isn't the basicity trend listed backwards? The para-analog has the lowest pKa for the conjugate acid (strongest acid), which means that the base is the weakest? — jerepierre Mar 20 '15 at 23:21
ortho is strongest base
08:16
@Abcd it's absolutely not
Gaurang showered me last year
May 8 at 5:13, by Avnish Kabaj
The heck is diels alder
May 8 at 5:13, by Avnish Kabaj
Anything can happen in chem
May 8 at 9:24, by Gaurang Tandon
@AvnishKabaj not in jee course
@Abcd it's not in portion
Sir has also said
@AvnishKabaj He didnt give any proof to you that its out of course.
he just said "not in jee course"
@Jasmine I took top batch student's copy. He has done 30 examples of diels alder (his sir made him do)
@Jasmine did you see its questions anywhere
@Abcd I have also done many examples on it but my Sir said it can come in
Bitsat
@Jasmine you know that they can give anything in paragraph question and ask questions on that?
@Jasmine so tell me na if you know the answer because you have done practice
08:27
@Abcd yes
Ok trying
I should check my notes as I don't remember
ping me when ur done
@Abcd option
@Jasmine subjective
no
@Abcd this maybe
Oopes
@Abcd please tell
1st one is wrong but 2nd one I don't know
09:03
@Jasmine wrong
I don't know this
@IceInkberry welcome!
Help us
@IceInkberry share your product
What are you getting for abcd question on dies alder
09:24
@Abcd your wish
What did I make !!
But why am I so worried
Diels alder not in portion :)
@Abcd this one should be correct
@Jasmine wrong
09:46
@Abcd oh I see you posted this might be helpful chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/25165/…
10:01
You might be interested in a image I posted in physics forum
10:54
Which is more stable indole or isoindole?
 
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@EshaManideep physics forum?
@Jasmine not helpful
@J_B892 indole has two aromatic rings while isoindole has only1
so naturally indole is more stable
@EshaManideep do you have any answer to my diels alder question
13:11
@Abcd @AbhigyanC @AvnishKabaj @EshaManideep @Jasmine Whoever gave KVPY, answer keys are out. Check your score.
14:01
@IceInkberry Don't remember what I marked
 
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15:45
I am getting about 81.5, if I remember what I put correctly !
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@Abcd I have a strange disease called dielsalderophobia, I will look into your question though, but after learning some MOT (I am a novice at it)
16:08
Anybody else with their marks ?
Question 1:
Question 2:
Question 3:
Question 4:
@EshaManideep Which question are you talking about?
The very first one, nitration
@EshaManideep yeah its b
Why not a?
Well, as a general guide, whenever in CHEMISTRY, you get 1st option, be careful, look again. There are two reasons, one is steric hindrance and the number of hydrogens !
@AvnishKabaj Please see question 1.
@IceInkberry @Jasmine @EshaManideep Please try question 3 and 4.
@EshaManideep AK said inductive effect matters more in nitration.
I read that in Peter Skyes too.
16:20
Really ? Let me look into
@EshaManideep you have Peter Skyes?
Ill tell you the page number
Yep
I wanna look into March
@EshaManideep Indian Peter Skyes?
@EshaManideep the one for jee
Not the orginal one
16:21
Nah,
Is there such a version for JEE too ? I didn't know that
Anyway both are almost same.
I will kill somebody if someone does that with march :P
So go to the chapter electrophilic and nucleophilic substitution
And go to the part Y = Alkyl , phenyl
I don't have it now
I will look into it sometime later
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16:24
Is the answer for the fourth one b ?
Correct
why?
Count them yourself !
@EshaManideep I am getting 3
which 6 are you getting
I hope you are not including meta product
....
16:27
Looking at the options, I thought I should
....Hmmm.....
please try 3rd one then
Yep, on it
D ?
Sorry sorry
a ?
d ?
sorry c
Come on then B ?
All wrongs removed because I had made a mistake in the wrongs
Tell me your FINAL answer
Correct.
Please tell me step C.
What did you do with acid azide?
16:32
Curtius rearrangement
@EshaManideep why do you need a alcohol for that
You can do it with alchohol, water, amine etc
Huh?
Please send your reaction
The Curtius rearrangement (or Curtius reaction or Curtius degradation), first defined by Theodor Curtius in 1885, is the thermal decomposition of an acyl azide to an isocyanate with loss of nitrogen gas. The isocyanate then undergoes attack by a variety of nucleophiles such as water, alcohols and amines, to yield a primary amine, carbamate or urea derivative respectively. Several reviews have been published. == Preparation of acyl azide == The acyl azide is usually made from the reaction of acid chlorides or anydrides with sodium azide or trimethylsilyl azide. Acyl azides are also obtained from...
first they have heated
but in the question he didnt mention heat
16:36
JEE Pal
Kvpy key is out
17:24
Today while my sir was discussing stability of carbocations, he said that flouro methyl is more stable than chloro methyl carbocation is more stable than iodomethyl, I can understand why F>Cl,I, becuase of 2p-2p better overlap ( I don't know what it is completely) but I don't understand why Cl>I, can somebody help me with this
18:02
@Abcd it's for rate
Not major product
@EshaManideep 3p-2p

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