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ʇolɐǝz ǝɥʇ qoq
ʇolɐǝz ǝɥʇ qoq
00:02
@snailboat I just silenced everyone.
Anonymous
00:26
@DamkerngT. Did you find what you wanted to know?
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
Yes. Thanks! I'm almost done.
Yay, screenshot get!
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A: Why is it "to start laughing" and not "to start to laugh"?

Damkerng T.To answer Why is it "to start laughing" and not "to start to laugh"?, I will point out that both alternatives are equally possible, but there are some minor points we should be aware of, by quoting a sub-entry from Practical English Usage by Michael Swan. (Its main entry is about some verbs and a...

Argh! It's still a bit too long than I hoped!
 
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Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
01:33
s/too long/longer/ -- It's so easy to spot the error when reading.
 
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Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
02:42
COCA: [start] laughing 564, [start] to laugh 371
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
02:55
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A: Where does "Can't see the wood for the trees" come from?

Alex SnepvangersThe origin is actually from a place called Bath, in England. It refers to a concourse of houses that were designed by the architect John Wood. There was a tree planted directly in front of these houses, and it grew quite large. So people began to exclaim: "You can't see the Wood for the tree!" P...

Hah!
 
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Choko
Choko
08:40
How do you send an empty message?
@ʇolɐǝzǝɥʇqoq how do you do that?
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
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@Choko It's a mystery! :-)
Choko
Choko
???
:o
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
I cheated. Hehe!
Choko
Choko
hahaha
I can't even copy and paste that!
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
Oh! Hmm...
I remember I copied that from snailboat.
Choko
Choko
08:48
I can't! ahaha
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
Let me see...
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Maybe you can copy the last one.
Choko
Choko
​
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
Yay!
Choko
Choko
Ohh!
 
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Mohammad
Mohammad
13:55
Hi guys
how is every body?
MARamezani
MARamezani
Hullo!
Thanks.
Mohammad
Mohammad
I have a question.
what is the difference between 'premise' and 'hypothesis' and 'supposition'?
and when to use each of them?
MARamezani
MARamezani
@Mohammad Premise is the background knowledge behind something.
Mohammad
Mohammad
@MARamezani could you give me an example
@DamkerngT. we need your help.
MARamezani
MARamezani
I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because the premise of the question is incorrect. — ron Apr 23 at 22:38
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
14:03
I think the main difference between the two is that we assume that our premises are true.
MARamezani
MARamezani
@Mohammad Did you look up dictionaries?
Mohammad
Mohammad
yes but in arabic they give you the same meaning
MARamezani
MARamezani
@Mohammad Hmm, which word?
Mohammad
Mohammad
so that I got confused
MARamezani
MARamezani
(I know some Arabic)
Mohammad
Mohammad
14:04
'premise' and 'hypothesis' and 'supposition' give you the meaning "يفترض أو إفتراض"
MARamezani
MARamezani
But then background means the same.
In some contexts.
Mohammad
Mohammad
I do not know
Araucaria
Araucaria
14:23
@Mohammad Are you studying philosophy/logic?
@DamkerngT. Hi there, Where did you get he screenshot of H&P from?
Damkerng T.
Damkerng T.
14:42
@Araucaria From Google Books.
Good afternoon!
 
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Anonymous
19:33
@Choko I copy and paste a zero-width space from Wikipedia
Anonymous
See, it says "Word​Word" and so on, and between each of those is a zero-width space, so if you delete the "Word" parts, you get ​
Anonymous
​
Anonymous
​　　　　　　　　← That's also how you can make messages with space at the beginning :-)
user116848
hi
MARamezani
MARamezani
​
That's it.
@arrowfar Hullo!
@snailboat WHAT THE?!
Anonymous
19:35
@arrowfar Hello!
user116848
Hey guys :-)
user116848
I missed you all. No kidding :-)
user116848
Okay, a bit of kidding. laughs
Anonymous
@MARamezani Yup! But you have to paste in the actual symbol, not the HTML character entity
MARamezani
MARamezani
@snailboat I know I know.
Anonymous
19:37
Zero-width spaces are all kinds of monkey wrench in this place.
Anonymous
Use them with care.
user116848
19:47
@StoneyB Hello!
Anonymous
20:01
@arrowfar Just so you know, telling people you didn't miss them is kind of hostile. You should try to avoid that kind of hostility
Anonymous
After what happened before, I think we need to avoid that kind of conflict
user116848
@snailboat No I was joking. I really did miss you, honestly.
Anonymous
Well, I'm around :-) Sometimes I have to take breaks
Anonymous
I try to join both ELL rooms when I'm here, though sometimes I forget
Anonymous
I checked the star for "favorite room" on each one so I could rejoin them both each time
Anonymous
20:03
This room hasn't been as active, though
user116848
@snailboat Same here. Between breaks :-)
user116848
@snailboat Yeah I feel bad too.
Anonymous
At the moment this is still s'posed to be the general room for ELL, though
Anonymous
Where anyone can ask for help
Anonymous
So I try to at least read the transcript so I can respond if people ask stuff
Anonymous
20:04
(I haven't been answering questions on ELL proper lately, but I like to imagine I'm being helpful sometimes on chat :-)
user116848
Yes, I see you work pretty hard with learners here. I am glad we have you here.
Anonymous
I try, though I only know so much, so sometimes my off-the-cuff answers overstep the bounds of my knowledge a bit... Sometimes I have to do research to answer properly :-)
Anonymous
Learners sometimes ask pretty tough questions.
user116848
True. I agree.
user116848
I gave some answers on ELU the other day.
Anonymous
20:08
Oh yeah?
user116848
Yeah it was one of those one word request :-)
Anonymous
The word quieten is new to me!
Anonymous
It's around #54000 on COCA's frequency list
Anonymous
I don't know that kiss the rod phrase Robusto posted, either
user116848
Yeah both me and Rob have zero votes on our answers :-)
Anonymous
20:11
I posted an answer recently too
Anonymous
It didn't get many votes either :-)
user116848
@snailboat Yeah it happens :-)

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