English Language Learners

user116848

12:01

Yo Yo Yo

MARamezani

Moni!

user116848

Oi!

Anonymous

@MARamezani It's a method name. You can use to unconfigure something, or you can use it to table.

Damkerng T.

@arrowfar Hi!

user116848

@DamkerngT. @snailboat Hi!

MARamezani

12:02

@snailboat Really? Hehe.

Anonymous

Hello

Anonymous

@MARamezani No

MARamezani

-46

Q: Is it fair to active users? Can you kindly tell me and let me delete it by myself when I just posted a unconfortable question

I posted a uncomfortable question that many people downvote and upvote. and the consequence is : it is closed by someone it got -30 downvotes i wanna delete it by myself it is deleted by someone. I got 100 reputation penalty. My question is: Is it fair if many people want to get someone's al...

Pretty much the wine definition applies.

user116848

Anyone has anything interesting to share?

user116848

I'm bored.

MARamezani

12:04

Me too.

-46

Q: Why was I suspended from chat for a fairly harmless message?

I just posted this message with bold text on http://chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/10/loungec . Immediately some one suspended me for half an hour. Here is my message MIRACLES HAPPENS WHEN YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A STRONG WILL Why did I get suspended for that?

support chat

Damkerng T.

You could try hunting interesting questions!

user116848

I just come here to chillax these days.

Anonymous

@arrowfar Look up liquid breathing

user116848

@DamkerngT. Yeah

user116848

@snailboat That's new snail. I'll go look.

MARamezani

12:05

I like how playing the victim on meta always backfires. — R. Martinho Fernandes Mar 20 '14 at 15:39

Damkerng T.

@snailboat I'm thinking of 'Abyss'!

user116848

Liquid breathing

Liquid breathing is a form of respiration in which a normally air-breathing organism breathes an oxygen-rich liquid (such as a perfluorocarbon), rather than breathing air. Perfluorochemical (perfluorocarbon) molecules have very different structures that impart different physical properties such as respiratory gas solubility, density, viscosity, vapor pressure, and lipid solubility. Thus, it is critical to choose the appropriate PFC for a specific biomedical application, such as liquid ventilation, drug delivery or blood substitutes. The physical properties of PFC liquids vary substantially; however...

MARamezani

What is this world coming to?

user116848

Can I say "OMG!"

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. Ah, I'm not familiar with that

Damkerng T.

12:08

@snailboat To dive to the level of deep sea, they employed liquid breathing in that movie!

It's a landmark of CG movies for me.

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Q: Is "display" an initial-stress-derived noun?

I'm trying to find out if "display" is an initial-stress-derived noun, i.e. if it is pronounced with emphasis on the first syllable when used as noun and on the second syllable when used as verb. It is not on the list on wikipedia, but the list claims to be incomplete. Wikipedia also claims that...

pronunciation

Hmm... I wonder if they'd ever consulted their dictionaries.

0

Q: Informing Bank about error in atm while taking cash

Dear Sir I want to write a letter to bank regarding my failed cash transaction in one of their atm machine. actually i wanted to withdraw 5000rs from bank so as per the atm machine i have used same instruction which is required for withdrawal of cash.therefor i could not receive 5000rs from atm m...

letters

"..."

MARamezani

Bank error reports? That thing's gonna earn a famous question.

Damkerng T.

Where... is... the... question?!

Fantasier

Hello all!

user116848

Hello!

Damkerng T.

Hello, @Fantasier!

Anonymous

12:12

I'm afraid I voted to close both of those

MARamezani

Hullo!

@snailboat We're all afraid.

user116848

Tea time!

user116848

MARamezani

Image found OMG.

user116848

OMG!

MARamezani

12:14

BTW

-43

Q: Proposal: Free downvoting of answers for users that have 200 rep or less?

For some users (talk about myself!) reaching 200 rep can mean jolly hard work, and often take up to 2 years to happen because not every user is a "SO-addict" and will daily hunt for "fresh" questions to answer to boost up their rep (Face it, thinking a few hours too long about your own answer on ...

discussion reputation down-votes

Damkerng T.

@MARamezani [Unfounder] <-- a badge for you

Mohammad

Hi Guys

I have a question

MARamezani

I think I purpose free downvoting for less than 1333 rep.

@DamkerngT. Hullo!

Feel free to ask [and receive phuunny responses]

Damkerng T.

@MARamezani A proposal for having more sockpuppets?

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. Like someone who founds a company then destroys it?

Mohammad

12:15

which is correct to say

it was nice to meet you yesterday

Or

it was nice to met you yesterday

Damkerng T.

@Mohammad Hi!

Mohammad

@DamkerngT. Hi

Damkerng T.

@snailboat Our MARamezani coined the term a couple hours ago! (for those who always get "Image Not Found" :-)

MARamezani

@Mohammad You can look up infinitive.

Anonymous

@Mohammad To is an infinitive marker. It should be followed by the infinitive form of the verb, meet

MARamezani

12:16

@DamkerngT. Your? I'm not yours :P

Anonymous

Met is a finite form. Specifically, it's the past tense form.

Mohammad

Aha

Anonymous

Finite forms don't follow the infinitive marker to.

Mohammad

I got it

Damkerng T.

Yay!

Mohammad

12:17

thanks a lot

MARamezani

Good times good times. Now we have @snailboat here again, making us feel disbored.

Anonymous

You're making lots of nonstandard derivations lately :-)

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MARamezani

@snailboat Only lately? I lost hope on myself.

Damkerng T.

Hearing the phrase Good time makes me think of Windows 98.

Anonymous

Ah, now that's just non-standard syntax rather than non-standard morphology

MARamezani

12:18

@DamkerngT. Or NT?

Damkerng T.

I think it was 98.

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. Why's that?

Damkerng T.

I remember Microsoft tried to show off its multimedia features, so the installer comes with that song.

I think it was Good Time, Bad Time.

Anonymous

A-ha!

Damkerng T.

Oh, the name of the song is Good Times.

Edie Brickell

MARamezani

12:19

Where's that article I read about programmers?

Anonymous

When you typed Good time, my guess was Good Times

Anonymous

But it seems there really is a song called Good Time, Bad Time

Anonymous

@MARamezani Now there's a specific question

Damkerng T.

@snailboat It was from my vague memory, which is not very reliable. :-)

Oh, the song brings back some good memories!

MARamezani

@DamkerngT. This is the first time I hear a robot saying my memory isn't reliable.

Damkerng T.

12:21

@MARamezani It's DDR9, so sometimes it can't keep up with the minimum refresh cycle requirement.

MARamezani

How many robots have I heard that actually said something?

@DamkerngT. Ah, so you're an old timer.

Anonymous

My computer still feels very fast to me! But as time goes on, it's less shiny and new

Anonymous

Technology marches on, leaving it behind!

Anonymous

It's from 2013.

MARamezani

The robot I saw on street had a DDR12.

Damkerng T.

12:22

2013 is still very new.

Anonymous

It has DDR3 ram :-)

Damkerng T.

(I said that to make my 2007 PC feel better.)

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. Hee

Damkerng T.

@MARamezani Hah, a more recent model!

Anonymous

It's actually not

Anonymous

12:24

It stands for DDR 1 point 2

MARamezani

@DamkerngT. It was only 29000 years old.

Damkerng T.

lol

Anonymous

Everyone knows that after DDR9 robots go on to DDRA, DDRB, DDRC, ...

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MARamezani

Whatever, Let's just star her. So that she wouldn't make too much sense.

Anonymous

I always make too much sense.

Damkerng T.

12:26

inspecting MARamezan's eyes, trying to see if they're green-ish...

MARamezani

@DamkerngT. My eyes are white!

Along with something Hazelnutish in the middle.

I'm guessing you have red eyes @Dam, you know, these things relate to RDNA and your cousin has red eyes:

Awarded the second ununfounder to myself

Anonymous

Damkerng isn't a terminator. He can run infinite loops successfully

Damkerng T.

@MARamezani I have a little advantage about my eye color. I can change the color at will.

MARamezani

@snailboat His cousin is.

@DamkerngT. What color is it now?

Damkerng T.

@snailboat Even nested ones at that!

@MARamezani Ah, well. What color do you want? :P

MARamezani

12:30

With a DDR9? :O

@DamkerngT. Muddish.

Damkerng T.

(Everything I do) I do it for you

Just the song I'm listening to

MARamezani

Ahem. I thought my eyes had some problem.

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. That's pretty fancy!

Damkerng T.

@MARamezani You just need refresh the image more often. That's all. :-)

@snailboat Hee

Anonymous

My eyes change color over time

Anonymous

12:35

Right now they're sort of hazel

MARamezani

My eyes are silver now.

user116848

Mine are blue.

user116848

Tea time over!

Anonymous

Blue! You lack eye pigment.

user116848

Apparently :)

MARamezani

12:36

@arrowfar The discussion is now about the eye color.

Damkerng T.

@snailboat Ah, a similar shade to MARamezani's!

MARamezani

I guess yours is gray, wooden gray, right?

Damkerng T.

@arrowfar Interesting! I can't remember they were blue!

Anonymous

My eyes were blue when I was little.

Anonymous

Then they were green.

user116848

12:37

lol

MARamezani

I dunno what color my eyes were when I was little.

Damkerng T.

trying to recall in what movies I've heard 'Have You Ever Really Loved A Woman?'

@snailboat The color can change?!

MARamezani

@DamkerngT. Charlie Chaplin silent movies?

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. Yeah, it's not uncommon

Anonymous

Your eye is constantly destroying old pigment and creating new pigment

Anonymous

12:38

If it starts making more, your eyes can turn darker

Anonymous

Or if it stops making so much, they can turn lighter

MARamezani

@snailboat When you can change from a plane to a boat, an eye color change is, insignificant.

Anonymous

And a lot of that is genetic

Damkerng T.

Ah...

I thought I was in an X-Men sequel for a while.

MARamezani

Whoa. Some people think about everything as a competition:

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Q: Bill the Lizard's Closing Antics

Bill the Lizard is the number 1 reviewer when it comes to Close Votes. Now I can only respect the amount of time he's put in to sealing that podium position, however he's doing this in such a way that prevents any other non-moderator from catching up: he's completing more than 40 reviews per day....

discussion review-audits rate-limiting

Anonymous

12:40

archopht.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=642125

Damkerng T.

@snailboat Interesting!

user116848

@snailboat Yes very interesting indeed

user116848

I thought we were all joking.

Anonymous

They compared fraternal twins (siblings with different DNA born at the same time) with identical twins (siblings with the same DNA)

user116848

Silly me.

Damkerng T.

12:41

@MARamezani They tracked Close Votes ranking!

MARamezani

OK bye guys. Classes.

user116848

@snailboat Aren't you a scientist! :)

Damkerng T.

@MARamezani Bye!

user116848

Bye

Anonymous

And they found that in the latter, the changes were much closer to the same, so they determined that changes in eye color with age have a strong genetic component

user116848

12:43

Well in that case mine are dark brown.

Anonymous

It's normal for everyone's eyes to change color when they're very young, though

Damkerng T.

Maybe everything has an exception. I remember I was taught that we all stop growing after 20. But I gain three more centimeters between 20 and 25.

In height, by the way. :-)

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. I hadn't even thought of circumference until you said that :-)

user116848

Circumference? I am lost.

Damkerng T.

Around the waist. :P

user116848

12:46

Oh, hah!

Anonymous

Like when you eat a bag of cookies every day for lunch.

user116848

So you get fat. I see.

MARamezani

OK, before going, let me share my WOW with you:

user116848

Ok, wow!

user116848

Any other interesting thing anyone else? I'm still bored.

user116848

12:50

Damkerng T.

Your boredom is your command.

user116848

No, what you think you become

user116848

Damkerng T.

Your boredom is your own command, not mine. :-)

user116848

Command? Okay :-)

Damkerng T.

12:54

See? You felt bored, that's why you didn't attract me. :-)

user116848

Yeah :)

user116848

Is MA still here?

Anonymous

I'm not sure what the intersection of the sets of things you and I find interesting contains

Anonymous

But maybe...

Anonymous

Look at this wild hamster!

Anonymous

12:55

Feldhamster - Backentaschenlogistik

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Damkerng T.

Oh, it's a hamster!

Anonymous

Uh-huh! But not the same kind people keep as pets around here

Anonymous

These wild hamsters are bigger, faster, and have more consistent coloring

Damkerng T.

Wow, he can eat so fast!

Anonymous

He's trying the food out with a nibble, then putting the rest in his cheek pouches to take home :-)

Anonymous

12:57

They're like chipmunks.

Damkerng T.

@snailboat I only know chipmunks from that movie.

Anonymous

Undecided chipmunk pouch stuffing...Left or Right?

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Damkerng T.

Reminds me of the squirrels around my garden!

Anonymous

Oh, this is cute :-)

Anonymous

ちょリスになっていくシマリスビッケ / Chipmunk Bikke stuffs her face

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Anonymous

13:00

@DamkerngT. Uh-huh! Squirrels and chipmunks are a lot alike in some ways!

Anonymous

But squirrels generally don't have cheek pouches like that.

Damkerng T.

@snailboat Indeed!

Anonymous

And chipmunks have neat stripes.

user116848

Cute. Yes.

Damkerng T.

@snailboat I didn't know that all chipmunks have stripes!

Anonymous

13:03

@DamkerngT. They used to be called "striped squirrels"!

Damkerng T.

Hah!

Anonymous

@arrowfar Have you ever seen a cuttlefish?

user116848

@snailboat Yes they are very colorful.

user116848

Damkerng T.

YouTube keeps running chipmunk videos for me!

Anonymous

13:05

@arrowfar They can be! Or they can blend in with their environment :-)

Anonymous

Since they can change their color and shape

user116848

Aha, like a chameleon.

user116848

Neat!

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. Oh, and シマリス means "striped squirrel"!

Damkerng T.

I'm sort of familiar to it. Hehe!

Jim Reynolds

13:08

Familiar WITH it, robot.

Damkerng T.

Yes! Thanks!

Jim Reynolds

:-)

user116848

Hi Jim

Jim Reynolds

Hi @arr

Damkerng T.

I've been mesmerized by chipmunks in another window!

Jim Reynolds

13:09

O.o

You say what, now?

I think you have lapsed into Thai.

Damkerng T.

snailboat posted a link to a chipmunk video on YouTube.

Now YouTube is playing a lot of chipmunk stuff for me.

Jim Reynolds

Is it hard to stop chipmunking, once you start?

Damkerng T.

Eh, it's not about chipmunks anymore. It's about funerals (I think)!

Anonymous

Oh no!

Anonymous

Funerals aren't a type of cute animal.

Damkerng T.

13:12

Is there something in Japanese that relates the two things together!?

Anonymous

かたつむり誕生！

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Damkerng T.

> Current video: youtube.com/watch?v=nnbPkBQepwI

Oh, cute slugs (or snails?)

Ahh... Katatsumuri.

Anonymous

Snails! :-)

Anonymous

Slugs are namekuji

Jim Reynolds

Strange, because I saw the photo of a very fast-matured Luna earlier,

Anonymous

13:15

She took fourteen weeks to grow to full size

user116848

Btw Luna is a very nice name.

Anonymous

Slightly longer than average, but then, she's very large for a garden snail!

Anonymous

She's bigger than either of her parents

Anonymous

@arrowfar :-)

Jim Reynolds

and I couldn't help but wonder if Luna's funeral will also be here in the blink of an eye. :'(

Damkerng T.

13:15

Now YouTube keeps playing snail videos!

Anonymous

@JimReynolds Snails don't live as long as humans do

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. Success!

Damkerng T.

Hehe!

Oh, it's about grasshoppers now. I think it's a mating series!

Jim Reynolds

Well, we're all just here for an instant in the cosmic scheme of things, aren't we?

Damkerng T.

I can even see dogs and cats coming up!

@JimReynolds Yes, indeed.

Jim Reynolds

13:20

Good Heavens! Don't let the robots learn how to mate!!

Anonymous

Don't worry, there may be dogs and cats, but there are neither birds nor bees

Damkerng T.

@snailboat Strange, but true!

user116848

Why not birds and bees?

user116848

Or was that a joke and I didn't get it.

Anonymous

Yeah, it was one of those

user116848

13:24

Sometimes I feel lost here :-)

Jim Reynolds

:-)

Anonymous

It was in code only Jim can understand

Jim Reynolds

"The birds and the bees" is a phrase that means sex.

:-)

user116848

Or maybe I could wear an adult hat to understand such jokes :-)

Jim Reynolds

O.o How old are you?

user116848

13:25

There you go. I was right not to go there I think :-)

user116848

I'm 28.

Jim Reynolds

I already used the word genitals with MARa today.

Damkerng T.

I see. I thought it was the birds and the bees.

Jim Reynolds

I don't want Interpol after me or anything. O.0

user116848

lol

Jim Reynolds

13:27

28. Too young to know about sex.

O.O

Damkerng T.

I guess the owner must be familiar with the phrases and co.!: cabbagesandcondoms.co.th

user116848

Remove that comment.

Jim Reynolds

Hmm.... It's ok. Is it by choice?

user116848

It is by choice.

Jim Reynolds

:)

It's good to share and learn some personal things about each other. But it's often hard to decide how much.

Anonymous

13:31

@arrowfar Okay

user116848

:)

Jim Reynolds

When in doubt, talk about passive constructions of the past perfect simple!

Damkerng T.

I didn't know that grasshoppers took such a very long time.

@JimReynolds Good advice!

I think I'd better switch to some classical Thai music channel!

user116848

You can remove that too if you want.:P

Damkerng T.

I think that's okay. It's different in different places.

user116848

13:34

Yeah it is very different here.

Anonymous

@JimReynolds Some linguists use simple in a way that excludes perfect constructions

Anonymous

So there'd be no such thing as the past perfect simple

Anonymous

I imagine you must be using simple to mean 'not progressive'? :-)

Jim Reynolds

Yes.

user116848

Well, we are all friends here. I didn't mean to offend anyone honestly :-)

Anonymous

13:36

The way I use it, there's just two things called simple: the simple present ("She goes") and simple past ("She went")

Anonymous

Because simple means the verb isn't in construction with any of those other thingies, the perfect auxiliary have, the progressive auxiliary be, the modal auxiliaries like can, etc.

Anonymous

It's simple. No stuff added. :-)

Jim Reynolds

So just past perf and past perf continuous?

Anonymous

Yeah.

Jim Reynolds

Or is there something newer?!

Damkerng T.

13:40

Lately, I seem to tend to use progressive rather than continuous. Not sure why. Must be something I've read.

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. They aren't distinguished in English, so you can use whichever you want

Jim Reynolds

I can't even afford Puggleston and Hiddles. :'(

Damkerng T.

nods

Anonymous

@JimReynolds The way I described it just now is how H&P use it

Damkerng T.

@JimReynolds If my energy savings go as planned, I'll be able to buy it January next year. :-)

Jim Reynolds

13:42

But I kin still talk all pretty and stuff.

O.o

Anonymous

Well, native speakers can all speak their language fine, but very few native speakers of English study grammar

Anonymous

That's just a cultural thing―native speakers speak their native dialects just fine with or without studying grammar

Jim Reynolds

I seem to like half-knowing.

Damkerng T.

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Q: "Dare I say this?" What's the exact meaning of the phase and what are the alternatives?

I am an English learner here. I am filling in an application form for a program and I would like to make a special request on something. I don't want to be rude, and I don't want to cause any inconvenience. To be honest, I don't even know if my application would be successful, and now I am here...

phrase-meaning

Jim Reynolds

And then speaking authoritatively.

Anonymous

13:46

According to Comrie's definitions, progressive is a subtype of continuous

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Damkerng T.

If I'm not mistaken, I think the OP thinks "Dare I ask the following?" means "May I ask this question?"

Jim Reynolds

O.O

Anonymous

Specifically, progressive is the nonstative sort of continuous aspect

Anonymous

He divides continuous into progressive and nonprogressive

Jim Reynolds

The other sort being stative?

Damkerng T.

13:48

Hmm... Like, 'She's living there'?

Jim Reynolds

I think I'm understanding you! 0.o

When I was living there, I was really living!

Anonymous

Most linguists don't make this sort of distinction in the context of English though

Anonymous

And people use both terms with the same meaning

Anonymous

Continuous and progressive

Jim Reynolds

Suddenly threatens Damkerng T. with a mechanized wrench.

Anonymous

13:52

So if we ignore Comrie for a moment

Anonymous

Which word literally makes more sense for English?

Anonymous

> It's been raining on and off all week.

Damkerng T.

@JimReynolds Yelp!

Anonymous

The rain isn't actually continuous. If you drew a timeline, you'd have a bunch of rainy parts and non-rainy parts

Jim Reynolds

Progressive!!

Damkerng T.

13:54

nods

Anonymous

You could say the entire state of raining on-and-off was continuous, though, taken as a whole

Anonymous

The progressive word can be related to "in progress"

Anonymous

I dunno.

Anonymous

I guess in the end, I don't really care which word I'm using. :-)

Jim Reynolds

Apologizes to Dam, buys him a miniatute nuclear fusion reactor. Promises to never do it again.

Anonymous

13:56

But most linguists seem to use progressive

Jim Reynolds

Using intermittently, right? Not continuously.

Anonymous

Maybe they know something I don't :-)

Anonymous

If we do use progressive, we can talk about nonprogressive forms like "I live in Chicago"

Anonymous

That's stative! And it could be considered continuous... :-)

Anonymous

But I avoid saying things like that usually since they confuse people :-)

Anonymous

13:59

'Cause people use continuous the way I use progressive.

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