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Anonymous
00:00
It's funny because sometimes I can tell my speaking is unnatural but I have trouble fixing it
Ah, it's the same problem I have!
Anonymous
Oh!
Anonymous
I didn't realize you just said the same thing :-)
Anonymous
That's funny.
Anonymous
Besides talking to people, the other thing I do is talk out loud to myself, either narrating what I'm doing in Japanese, or just thinking out loud
Anonymous
00:03
I end up finding holes in my Japanese, like, things I have trouble expressing
Sounds like good exercises!
Anonymous
I can always express stuff if I don't mind that I might be doing so in kind of a goofy way :-)
Hee. I do that all the time!
I remember that I had to use my hands often enough when I was in Frankfurt.
Anonymous
Ahh!
Anonymous
Well, they say that you should focus on being able to communicate more than anything else
00:05
"I want to buy that!" "What is that?" "Well, I want to wash my clothes and I need that." (gesturing)
Something like that. :D
Anonymous
Hee
Anonymous
Although I never took Japanese classes, I did take French and Spanish classes
Anonymous
When we weren't supposed to talk in English, we'd pantomime stuff sometimes :-)
Anonymous
That always stuck with me
Anonymous
00:07
Say,
Anonymous
In my Spanish and French classes, we had to pick Spanish and French names to use instead of our normal names
Anonymous
Do you think people do that sort of thing in English classes?
Oh! That's interesting.
Anonymous
I was never sure if that was normal or just a weird thing our school did. :-)
@snailboat Not here. But I think they do it in Hong Kong and Singapore.
It sounds like a bad idea, but Hong Kong people and Singaporeans seem to be better at English than Thais, so maybe it works!
(You have an English name now. This means that you're supposed to be good at English!)
Anonymous
00:10
Well, we were young, and I think it felt kind of silly at the time. Maybe it was supposed to be fun, to get kids enjoying learning their languages :-)
I imagine I would be frustrating seeing that suddenly all my friends use different names!
Anonymous
French class was silly in junior high.
Anonymous
Our teacher was a sort of comedian.
Oh, I think that's good for learning!
Anonymous
I stole a few little things from those classes.
00:12
LOL
Anonymous
Like saying the date and day of the week in the target language each day
Oh, I thought things like chalks or some paper.
Anonymous
Because I realized how good I got at saying 1994 in Spanish. Hehe!
Anonymous
Oh! No
Anonymous
I've never stolen a physical item
Anonymous
00:13
Although I have permanently borrowed things
That's why I was surprised!
Anonymous
I would give them back if asked
Anonymous
Likewise, a lot of people I know are permanently borrowing my own possessions
Anonymous
I think that just ends up happening when you lend things out sometimes
Anonymous
00:14
Fair trade. My friend Pam has my Deadwood DVDs, and I have her Unbreakable DVD. :-)
Anonymous
One of these years I plan on giving it back.
Anonymous
But I haven't watched it yet.
Oh, I like Unbreakable a lot!
Anonymous
I should watch it, then!
Anonymous
Maybe after the JLPT :-)
Anonymous
00:15
Then I can give it back! And get Deadwood back
nods -- Better after!
LOL
Anonymous
I've never been in a position where I had any temptation to steal anything
Anonymous
I'd like to say it's because of my strong moral upbringing, but I've just never had a reason to consider it
Borrowing something permanently happened to me, too.
Anonymous
Uh-huh?
Anonymous
00:17
Oh! I've had stuff stolen from me, though.
I think I told you about the first volume of Romance of the Three Kingdoms that my friend has it.
Anonymous
Oh!
Anonymous
I forgot about that.
On the other hand, I got a book from my university's library borrowed a couple of decades ago with me.
Anonymous
My best friend in high school was a bit of a library, always lending books out
Anonymous
00:18
They ended up in tatters!
Anonymous
When they didn't disappear entirely.
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. Oh!
I think I forgot to return it because I had to work out country.
Anonymous
Let me think. I may still have a textbook from my high school
And I'd completely forgotten about it, until I moved to my new house.
Anonymous
00:19
Little things like that do pile up over the years, ever so slowly, but . . . :-)
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. Moving is strange.
Anonymous
I am now old enough that I can move somewhere and discover I have possessions I had no idea existed
Anonymous
Like, "What? Where did this book come from? When did I buy this?? Am I borrowing it??"
LOL -- So true!
Anonymous
That was at the age of 32, so clearly my memory is going at an early age :-)
00:21
I'd rather say nothing about that. :D
Anonymous
Hehe!
Anonymous
No, I know everyone forgets lots of stuff. It's how memory works. I don't really feel bad about it.
Anonymous
But it is surprising.
Oh, does your handwriting change over time?
Anonymous
I have re-learned to write on three occasions
Anonymous
00:22
I can write in various ways
Anonymous
When I'm not thinking about it . . .
During the move, I found a lot of my own journals, and they looked like they were written by someone else.
Anonymous
My handwriting is now a mixture of the different ways
Anonymous
And not very easy to read.
Anonymous
In fact, I can turn almost any word into a zigzagging line if I try hard enough.
00:23
@snailboat Oh, it's a good trick to keep your brain working!
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. I taught myself to write when I was very young, but not the way they wanted us to write
Anonymous
So when I got into school, they made me re-learn to write my letters the other way
"What is this? I can't recognize this. Wait, I wrote this!"
Anonymous
Which was rather difficult for me
Anonymous
Then I got rid of that and started doing everything in small caps, in a much neater style I came up with
Anonymous
00:25
(I experimented with small caps, but not writing down vowels)
Anonymous
Then I got a Palm Pilot, and it had its own handwriting system that was very different from how I write letters
Anonymous
So I had to re-learn how to write some letters like 's' and 'o' and 'y' in order for it to recognize them
I remember that Palm Pilot had some specific way about the handwriting!
Anonymous
And those made their way into my regular handwriting!
Anonymous
00:26
@DamkerngT. Unfortunately, I'm an inverter, so it doesn't mesh very well with the way my brain works
Anonymous
So I was never able to write very well with it.
Anonymous
Although it was very useful to have!
Anonymous
Voice input on an iPhone is much better :-)
It came with an onscreen keyboard, too, I think.
Anonymous
Oh, somehow I've forgotten about that.
00:27
@snailboat Indeed!
Anonymous
It's been years now.
Anonymous
Of course, I learned to write Japanese, too.
Anonymous
But I was a teenager, and when I started to learn to write Japanese, I didn't have any trouble writing top-down
I've never had any Palm. The first small device I have was Pocket PC.
Anonymous
One problem: when I first learned kana, I learned them with the wrong stroke order!
Anonymous
00:28
I learned kanji with the right stroke order
Anonymous
So I had to re-learn kana! :-)
@snailboat Oh!
Anonymous
I also learned to write with my left hand
Anonymous
But I'm right-handed. My writing with my left hand isn't very good.
Oh, that's really interesting!
Anonymous
00:28
It never really got better. :-)
Anonymous
I thought I could do it.
Anonymous
I also used my mouse with my left hand for a while.
My brother was left-handed but turned right-handed, and he had a little problem with that.
Anonymous
I don't know why I did these things.
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. Oh! Tell me about that!
00:30
@snailboat It's fun for sure. I know it's fun. I know this because of my brother.
Anonymous
Handedness is an interest of mine!
Anonymous
(Handedness is an interest of mine! - You can perform this action again in 10 seconds - retry / edit / cancel) ← 10? Really? sigh
@snailboat Oh, one thing is he can't tell left from right instantaneously.
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. Oh, I remember you telling me about that part!
Anonymous
Say, did you know lots of left-handed people play right-handed instruments?
00:31
Another is he usually makes the wrong stance when playing sports.
Anonymous
Oh!
Suppose that one wants to swing a racket really hard with their right hand. The normal position would be the left foot in front of the right foot.
He usually did it the other way!
Anonymous
Ah!
However, he can beat anyone in the court, even national level players! When playing badminton with the other hand. :D
Anonymous
Wow!
Anonymous
00:35
Is he mixed-dominant?
I think if there is a scale or left-handness or right-handness, he is like a 6.
(On the scale of 10 is the absolute right-handness.)
I think I'm a 9.
Anonymous
I want to say I'm a 7.5 :-)
Anonymous
I'm clearly right-dominant for most (but not all) activities
Anonymous
Although my hands are nearly equal for some activities
Anonymous
00:37
I am only slightly better with my right hand on piano
Wait, but you play piano with both hands, I think.
Anonymous
Yes
Anonymous
But there is always a difference.
Anonymous
No matter how much Hanon you do with your hands in octaves :-)
Ahh... I don't know much about playing piano.
Anonymous
00:38
You can always learn to do more complicated things more easily with your dominant hand
Anonymous
My left hand is also larger (I can reach an extra white key with my left hand)
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. Me either.
Anonymous
I've been doing it all my life
Anonymous
But, you know, not very well :-)
00:39
@snailboat Somehow I don't believe this much. :P
Anonymous
Well, it's not my main instrument.
Anonymous
I've only ever taken lessons on violin, viola, and guitar
Anonymous
But I play lots of other instruments :-)
That's a lot! I've never taken any lessons (from a pro or a music school, I mean).
Anonymous
I took ten years of viola lessons.
Anonymous
00:41
It's a really beautiful instrument :-)
Anonymous
But I play violin more than viola now
Neat! I'd like to hear you playing it some time.
Anonymous
Oh . . . maybe :-) I have an electric violin now
Anonymous
Well, I have an electric viola too, but it's not as nice
Anonymous
I really want to get a five-string
Anonymous
00:42
Like . . .
It doesn't have to be now. Maybe after the test. :D
(Not that I don't want to hear it now, but I don't want to distract you more than I'm already doing. :-)
Anonymous
Anonymous
It doesn't have a proper snail (scroll) at the top, but . . . :-)
I can see five strings!
Anonymous
Violin is G-D-A-E. A viola is similar, but it has a low C instead of a high E
Anonymous
00:45
  violin     G-D-A-E
  viola    C-G-D-A
Viola is a little bigger, then.
Anonymous
That's right
Anonymous
A viola is a little bigger
Anonymous
It has a somewhat rounder fingerboard and the bridge is arched a little more
Anonymous
And the bow is shaped a little differently
00:46
Oh, wait. Isn't Viola also a character's name in one of Shakespeare's plays?
Anonymous
Here's a five-string viola, rather than violin:
Anonymous
Anonymous
Again an electric
An uncommon shape!
Anonymous
Viola (pronounced \ˈvaɪoʊlə\) is a fictional character from the play Twelfth Night, written by William Shakespeare. Viola's actions produce all of the play's momentum. She is a young woman of Messaline, a fictional country invented by Shakespeare, although some believe that this country really did exist. In the beginning Viola is found shipwrecked on the shores of Illyria and separated from her twin brother, not knowing whether he is alive or dead, the Sea Captain that tells her that this place is ruled by the Duke Orsino, who is in love with the Countess Olivia. Viola wants to serve her, but,...
Anonymous
00:48
@DamkerngT. Electric viols don't need the resonating soundbox with the f-holes
Hmm... Viola sounds a lot more attractive than before, now. :-)
Anonymous
But you'll notice they do still have the upper bouts, because you use those when playing
Anonymous
You position your hands entirely by muscle memory and feel, not by looking
Anonymous
If those were gone, it'd be a lot harder to play in high positions!
nods -- Oh, mentioning muscle memory reminds me that I can play keyboard, too.
But like a 3yr boy. :D
Anonymous
00:50
So you can find electric instruments shaped like this:
Anonymous
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. Yay!
Anonymous
That reminds me of the movie Big
@snailboat One of my uncles taught me a song. And I didn't know any notes, just repeated after him.
@snailboat It's a little longer than that one.
But yeah, the one in Big is nice! I love that scene.
Anonymous
I guess you've seen a lot of English movies!
Anonymous
00:52
I wonder if you've seen more movies than me
I estimated that I had watched about 300-400 movies before I joined ELL.
I think now I have watched over 800 movies.
Some of them several times. And a few of them almost ten times!
Anonymous
Wow!
Anonymous
That means you've doubled the total number of movies you've seen in only a year!
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. I feel like repetition is really helpful for language learning.
00:54
nods
Anonymous
When I watch something over and over, I start to be able to call to mind pretty much all of the words in the movie
Exactly!
Anonymous
Some years ago, a Japanese learner of English I know completely turned around his English skills
Anonymous
Just by watching Heroes season one on DVD over and over
Oh! curious
Hah! That's neat!
Anonymous
00:55
I can't help but think there must have been a better source material to watch over and over ;-) But of course, we all have to pick what motivates us
Anonymous
I watched all of Heroes
Anonymous
Because my best friend is into comic book stuff
Anonymous
I liked it at first!
Oh, in Japanese, you mean?
Anonymous
00:56
Oh, no, in English
Anonymous
I've seen a lot of TV shows in English!
Anonymous
Although I've seen a lot of Japanese dubs of stuff.
Ah, okay. I think it was a great show anyway.
Anonymous
I really enjoyed it at first
Anonymous
But I felt like it didn't really go anywhere.
Anonymous
00:57
My friend I mentioned earlier, Pam, really likes comic book stuff and everything related to comic books
I heard about the problem with the scriptwriters.
Anonymous
So I've gotten dragged to just about every superhero movie, too :-)
Anonymous
Which is not to say that I don't enjoy them
Anonymous
I especially liked Avengers
00:58
Avengers was really beyond my expectation!
I didn't have high expectation before watching it, so it blew me away!
Anonymous
Mine, too. I didn't really like that Thor movie that came before it
Anonymous
Or um, I'm not sure if I saw all of the related movies
Anonymous
I liked Iron Man!
Yep! Me too!
Anonymous
But Avengers was my favorite out of those comic book movies
00:59
I think Thor was okay. Captain America could have been better.
Anonymous
That's more or less how I felt
Anonymous
My friend was really excited about all the comic book characters, like the SHIELD agency and Nick Fury and so forth
Anonymous
And I couldn't get myself excited about those things
Anonymous
But then the Avengers movie changed my mind :-)
Anonymous
01:00
Oh! And the next one is coming out in 2015, apparently!
It seems so!
Anonymous
I'm currently watching all of the comic book TV shows, too
Anonymous
Even The Flash
I think I've heard that they will have Superman vs. Batman, too.
Anonymous
Mostly because my friend likes them. But I like this Gotham show.
Anonymous
01:02
@DamkerngT. Oh, I heard about that!
Aww... I heard about it, but it's not here yet.
Anonymous
I saw the Superman movie but it wasn't all that great. It had really nice action scenes.
Anonymous
But I had trouble caring about the characters.
Ahh... I think I get you.
Anonymous
I mean the most recent Superman movie. (I think there are a lot of Superman movies I haven't seen.)
01:03
In any case, I like the opening scenes. Everything looks so alien-ish!
Anonymous
I think the movie was supposed to be about the action sequences.
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. In the Superman movie?
Anonymous
I forgot about that part!
@snailboat Yes, Man of Steel.
Anonymous
But now I remember, now that you mention it
01:04
Before Krypton exploded.
Anonymous
Visuals are getting really nice in movies these days.
Anonymous
They make these movies as eye candy
nods -- I can't imagine what it would be like five years from now.
Anonymous
I'm thinking of the castle scene in Frozen :-)
Oh, that's neat, too!
Anonymous
01:05
Possibly the prettiest thing I've ever seen in a movie.
Frozen is Disney's, right?
Anonymous
I got ヒックとドラゴン recently (the Japanese dub of How to Train Your Dragon)
Anonymous
But I haven't watched it yet
Oh, neat!
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. Yes!
01:07
@snailboat Maybe Dreamworks will come up with something to compete with it. :D
Anonymous
Next I want to get the Japanese dub of Wreck-it Ralph (called Sugar Rush in Japanese)
Anonymous
My friends think I'm crazy because they think since I speak English, I should be trying to enjoy the English versions of stuff instead of dubs . . . :-)
Oh, it would be a perfect fit for Japanese!
Anonymous
I think so!
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. I don't have a good awareness of who makes what
01:08
I like Wreck-it Ralph, too.
Anonymous
Is Dreamworks the company that did Finding Nemo?
Hmm... I don't know. I guess so.
Anonymous
Anonymous
I like when they put particles in tiny letters like that と :-)
Anonymous
I don't know too many other DreamWorks things.
01:09
@snailboat Oh, it's Disney's.
Anonymous
I've probably seen some, though.
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. Oh!
Anonymous
Let's see, . . .
@snailboat Shrek is surely by DreamWorks.
And Toy Story, among other things.
Anonymous
A-ha! I have Shrek on DVD.
Anonymous
01:10
A box set with Shrek 1 and 2 and some other thing
Oh, a box set (of anything)! Something I don't have!
Anonymous
Oh! I have an embarrassingly large number of DVDs :-)
Anonymous
I never really got into Blu-Rays
I have some DVDs, but not in box sets.
Anonymous
A-ha
Anonymous
01:12
Japanese things often come in box sets.
Anonymous
So do TV show seasons in English
The video shop I usually rented DVDs from decided to have box sets on their shelves.
Anonymous
I don't really like it when they split things up and make you buy a season of TV one bit at a time
Soon after, they had to close their business!
Anonymous
Oh no!
01:13
Box sets were a bit too expensive here, I think. (I asked the shop boys there.)
Anonymous
We used to have a local Asian rental shop which always had Japanese cartoons (but rarely any other kind of Japanese TV or movies) back in the 90s
Anonymous
Along with videos from all sorts of other Asian countries
Anonymous
But they eventually went under due to Blockbuster and then Netflix and so forth
Ah, Netflix is extremely popular there, I guess.
Anonymous
It is
Anonymous
01:16
I wish it were easier to buy Japanese things here
Anonymous
There are online streaming sites, like gyao, which let you buy individual episodes of all sorts of Japanese shows!
Anonymous
But they won't sell them to me :-(
Maybe you can buy some stuff when you're in Little Japanese. :D
Anonymous
I have to move to Japan to get them.
@snailboat I felt the same when I saw a lot of movies on Amazon Prime last year!
Anonymous
01:17
I've always wanted to see the Japanese version of a cartoon I liked when I was little. I saw the English dubbed version
Anonymous
And they never released it on DVD or anything like that
Anonymous
But they finally put it online on gyao! But I can't buy it.
Weird.
Anonymous
They only have the rights for broadcast in Japan, I think
Anonymous
So someone would have to pay someone else to sell it in the US.
01:18
Oh! Probably.
Things can get complicated going through middle men.
Anonymous
Well, I have friends in Japan buying stuff on my behalf right now :-D
Anonymous
Okay, finally time to get back to studying :-)
Okay. Happy studying!
I'm going to do my chores, too.
See you soon.
 
9 hours later…
10:20
@snailboat I just checked out a bit more about JLPT and found that you'll have to wait until next February to know the result!
That's such a long time!
 
1 hour later…
11:26
I disagree with this answer. The cases in the question only work because it is "home alone". "I left them home" does not ring grammatical with me. — Octopus 18 hours ago
Interesting!
COCA seems to suggest usage change. (at home is still the majority, though)
The most succinct example in the COCA: I left him home.
11:53
@Damkerng T. Why don't you expatriate to America or somewhere else whose dominant language is English?
@user4550 That's a strange question, I'd say. Do you think I wish to do so?

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