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06:15
The sentences don't look natural. And proofreading is offtopic here. But still, take 2011 and I'd write it this way - Was given away an award for being in the top 5 students in the College of Computer Science and Engineering.Maulik V 2 hours ago
Anonymous
Nope :-(
06:34
hello
@snailboat
is it possible to have an indefinite article before the word 'FINAL' in any circumstances? To me, final is always the final.
Anonymous
@Maulik Try removing "away" from the example in your comment.
Anonymous
Yes, a final is a possible string of English
Anonymous
I'm typing this from my phone, but try searching COCA for those words
Anonymous
Sad to hear about Robin Williams
I see
Anonymous
06:45
Here we go, I'm on my laptop now
Anonymous
6463 examples
Anonymous
If you click the search term, examples will show up in the frame at the bottom right, and then you can click "sample: 500" or such to get a randomized sample
Okay, lemme do that
Anonymous
(Otherwise you might end up getting more fiction results, or more magazine results, etc., not an even mix)
06:48
what's that sample 500?
what if I select 100 or 1000?
Anonymous
Then you get 100 or 1000 examples
Anonymous
Click whichever you'd like :-)
fine..now I know that it a is used with final but how? why?
Anonymous
That's why I wrote "or such"
Anonymous
It's not specifically definite or indefinite, so the same way as in a normal NP
Anonymous
If you're introducing something you don't expect the listener to be able to identify, use a; if you're introducing something you expect them to be able to identify, use the
Here, we are certainly talking about the final decision because it's declaring the death
but a
comprehensive investigation must be completed befor
e a final determination is made.
Anonymous
That's the basic rule. The hard part is defining "identify" :-)
So, we have the final match of FIFA worldcup
because we both know that... but if I say... I have a final match tomorrow
tha'ts okay because you don't know what is that final match is all about?
Anonymous
Hmm...
06:52
About RW's final decision, it should be the, shouldn't it?
Anonymous
That one's fine as a
When you investigate and come up with something final, it's the final as in -After evaulating our company's condition at this stage, we have come up with the final decision of shutting it down.
@snailboat how?
There cannot be two final decisions!
Or a random final!
Has ELL such question? A or The with final?
Anonymous
I don't remember a question like that
Anonymous
It sounds like a good question to ask
Compare "There is a man on the street" with "There is the man on the street". I believe that the choice of a or the doesn't always have to be about the number.
Hello everyone!
I'm a bit busy today, and I still have one backlog question to answer on ELL. :(
07:00
@DamkerngT. but it certainly has to do something with uniqueness, the only possible way of something (see, I used the only and not an only)
No, it doesn't always have to be about uniqueness either.
not always but in this case certainly... isn't it?
Which case?
Anonymous
This laptop is angry at me
I mean here, in RW's case
wait, putting that as the question
07:17
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Q: The nuance of understanding the usage of definite and indefinite article with the word 'FINAL'

Maulik VUsing the indefinite article a with the word final has always confused me. I mean how come something that is final can be considered indefinite! When it's final, it's definitely final, isn't it? An investigation report from Marin County Sheriff’s Office Coroner Division confused me further. It r...

Anonymous
There are counterexamples to the uniqueness argument
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"Could you turn the light on?" (Fine even if the room has more than one light, and you're not being specific about which one)
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"Towards evening we came to the bank of a river." (Fine even though rivers generally have two banks)
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"The boy scribbled on the living-room wall." (Fine even though rooms tend to have multiple walls)
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"The dog bit him on the finger." (Fine even though most people have ten fingers, or eight if you exclude thumbs)
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07:24
"Lee kissed Pat on the cheek." (Fine even though most people have multiple cheeks)
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"Could you please open the window?" (Fine even if the room has multiple closed windows)
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"Take the elevator to the sixth floor." (Fine even if the hotel has four elevators)
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"Please pass the milk." (Fine even if there are multiple cartons of milk sitting on the table)
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"I spent a week in the hospital." (Fine even if there are multiple hospitals in the world)
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"He was the son of a poor farmer." (Fine even if the poor farmer has multiple sons)
Anonymous
07:26
"I read it in the paper this morning." (Fine even if multiple newspapers exist)
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"The first thing we did upon arriving in Santiago was to go to the park and have a relaxing picnic lunch." (Fine even though there are multiple parks within the city)
Anonymous
So although the generalization that the should be used when the NP it marks has unique reference is right fairly often, it is also wrong often enough that it needs some revision in order to be useful
"There is a man standing there." (Fine even though there is only one unique man standing there.)
Anonymous
He's discourse-new, not identifiable to the listener
Anonymous
Which is why an existential construction is used, to move a man out of subject position
Anonymous
07:33
Which is not a grammatical requirement, but English speakers have a preference for moving new information out of subject position
Anonymous
Accounting for all uses of a and the from general principles may not be possible--I think some uses are simply idiomatic
Anonymous
It's a very challenging topic, which is why so many linguists write about it each year :-)
I think this is a good example where specific and unique are not good for explaining the concept of definiteness for most learners.
@snailboat Indeed!
Anonymous
It helps if we start with the right answer--we know a final is fine as a string some of the time because millions of people say it.
Oh, I just learned about the Robin Williams news!
Anonymous
07:42
Sad!
Anonymous
I found Birner & Ward 1994 very helpful
Anonymous
On a related topic, the Information Packaging section in CGEL is based on Birner & Ward 1998
Anonymous
But since uniqueness is implied by the some of the time, a lot of people are reluctant to give up uniqueness as part of its job description--so people come up with ways to label uses like the above unique
Anonymous
And of course people talk about familiarity as well
Anonymous
(But both the uniqueness and familiarity theories fail to account for some cases)
Anonymous
07:53
I live next to a school, a school which is, for some reason, using its PA system at 1am
I don't know what PA system is.
Anonymous
Public Address
Anonymous
A public address system (PA system) is an electronic sound amplification and distribution system with a microphone, amplifier and loudspeakers, used to allow a person to address a large public, for example for announcements of movements at large and noisy air and rail terminals. The term is also used for systems which may additionally have a mixing console, and amplifiers and loudspeakers suitable for music as well as speech, used to reinforce a sound source, such as recorded music or a person giving a speech or distributing the sound throughout a venue or building. Simple PA systems are often...
Oh, my! At 1am?
Anonymous
That's not normal
Anonymous
07:55
Actually, school's not even in session at the moment
Anonymous
But the school year starts soon.
Anonymous
A lot of concerts use PA systems. (People just say "the PA")
There is a small stadium for a small football club not very far from my house.
Sometimes they have a match or a party there, and their PA system is very powerful. :)
Anonymous
Ahh :-)
Anonymous
I also live near train tracks, but I don't hear trains very often
08:01
Oh, I love the sound of a train running on the track!
When I was a kid I secretly wanted to be a railways engineer. I thought it must be really cool. :)
Anonymous
Trains are very popular in Japan! Not so much here
Anonymous
But there are some train enthusiasts here :-)
Oh, those miniatures, perhaps!
Anonymous
Oh, yes! Model train sets are popular, um, as far as such things go
Anonymous
Clearly there are more popular things :-)
08:04
Hehe!
Anonymous
In Japan, since trains are so popular and central to daily life for so many people,
Anonymous
there are a number of train simulators, video games like Densha de Go!
Oh, I didn't know they have train sims too!
Anonymous
電車(でんしゃ) is "train"
Anonymous
列車(れっしゃ) is also "train", but 電車 is for electric trains, which these days is pretty much all of them
08:05
Is it the same word for bullet trains?
Anonymous
So 電車(でんしゃ) can be considered the basic word for trains
Anonymous
高速鉄道(こうそくてつどう)とは、主に200km/h以上の速度で走行できる鉄道システムを指す。車輌やインフラなどの個々の要素を意味する場合もあるが、それらの要素を組み合わせた、一つの「システム」を意味することも多い。 == 高速鉄道の定義 == === 高速鉄道(新幹線・ICE・TGVなど) === 国際的な定義のひとつとして、国際鉄道連合 (UIC) では最高速度250km/h以上で走行する列車を指す。高規格化された在来線のみを走行する場合でもこれに該当するが、専用の高速新線を建設する場合はインフラ部分が250km/hでの走行に耐えうる基準を要求している。なお、「高速鉄道」とは車輌・インフラ・運用など「システム」を構成する全ての要素のコンビネーションによってもたらされるものであるとしている。このことから、日本のマスメディアでフランスのTGVやドイツのICEなどの高速鉄道を○○(国名)版新幹線と紹介することもあるが、新幹線はインフラ・信号・車両・経営・運営・保守・財務・マネジメントのすべてを高度に統合したシステムの名称であり、高速鉄道の一種とみるのが正しい。また、磁気浮上式鉄道(リニアモーターカー)のうち高速輸送を目的としたものも高速鉄道に含まれると考えられている。 世界で最初に高速鉄道が整備された日本では、新幹線整備計画に伴い制定された全国新幹線鉄道整備法第2条で、...
Anonymous
高速鉄道(こうそくてつどう) is literally "high-speed rail"
Eh? They use the word ICE too!?
Anonymous
That article is general and describes trains around the world
Anonymous
08:07
In Japan, I think you would often say for example 新幹線(しんかんせん)
Anonymous
Which is the name of a specific high-speed rail network
Ah, yes. I think I've heard that word!
Anonymous
It is very popular.
Anonymous
I think it would be most common to just refer to it by name rather than to say the equivalent of "bullet train"
Anonymous
There is a literal translation of that phrase
Anonymous
08:09
Actually, the English phrase is from Japanese
Anonymous
But I don't think the phrase is as common in Japanese nowadays
Anonymous
弾丸列車(だんがんれっしゃ)
Ah, so it's kinda like Greyhound, I think.
Anonymous
There you can see the 列車(れっしゃ) word I introduced you to earlier, a general term for train
Anonymous
And 弾丸(だんがん) "bullet"
Anonymous
08:10
弾丸列車(だんがんれっしゃ)は、日本で1939年(昭和14年)に始まった、通称「弾丸列車計画」で計画されていた列車である。 == 計画の背景 == 1932年(昭和7年)ごろ、日本から朝鮮半島・中国大陸へ向かう輸送需要は年々急増していた。その前年(1931年:昭和6年)には関東軍が満州事変に遭遇しはじめており、その1932年(昭和7年)には満州国も成立したためであった。東京・大阪からそれらの地方へ向かう当時の最速ルートは、まず東海道本線・山陽本線で下関まで行き、関釜連絡船で玄界灘を渡って釜山に上陸後、さらに朝鮮総督府鉄道(鮮鉄)・南満州鉄道(満鉄)を利用するというルートであった(→国際連絡運輸も参照)。ところが、その当時すでに東海道本線と山陽本線は重要幹線であるが故に輸送力が逼迫した状態であった。例えば、東海道本線と山陽本線の総延長は当時の国鉄線(省線)の7%に過ぎなかったものの、輸送量は全体の30%を占めていた。特に1937年(昭和12年)7月7日に盧溝橋事件が起こり日中戦争が勃発すると、そのままでは輸送量の増加に対処しきれなくなると危惧されるようになった。 == 立案から具体化 == そこで1938年(昭和13年)12月2日に当時の国有鉄道を運営していた鉄道省内部に「鉄道幹線調査分科会」が設立され、両幹線の輸送力強化に関する調査研究が開始された。さらに翌1939年...
Is がん related to gun?
Anonymous
No, that's a coincidence
Anonymous
It means round
Anonymous
The word goes back to centuries before contact with English
Anonymous
08:12
Way back when, in China, there was a kind of bow, 弾弓, which used round projectiles instead of arrows
Oh, I didn't know that.
Anonymous
And so, the ammunition used the character / word for "round"
(Though I knew that they had some sort of machine arrows.)
Anonymous
And this became the word for "bullet"
Anonymous
Actually, if you look at 弾丸(だんがん) "bullet"
Anonymous
08:14
Do you see the first kanji contains the radical for 弓 bow?
Anonymous
Maybe in English we would say it was more like a slingshot
Anonymous
Since slingshots are really sort of a kind of bow that uses round projectiles, aren't they?
Anonymous
Trouble is, I've only read about the Chinese weapon, so I don't know what they looked like
Oh, so it was small. (I thought of catapults before you mentioned slingshot.)
Anonymous
08:16
I actually pictured larger ones
Anonymous
I should look it up :-)
Anonymous
Ah!
Anonymous
It looks like the right translation was slingshot all along!
Anonymous
I'm so bad at Japanese :-)
Oh, no!
Definitely a slingshot. :)
Anonymous
Well, 弾弓 isn't a word in Modern Japanese
Anonymous
It's very interesting to me that it's considered a type of 弓!
Anonymous
I looked it up on my electronic dictionary, and 日国 and 広辞苑 both define it as a type of 弓
Anonymous
So I suppose 弓 is a more general word than I thought!
Anonymous
08:20
弓(ゆみ) "bow" 矢(や) "arrow"
Anonymous
弓矢(ゆみや) "bow and arrow"
I like these two characters. :)
Anonymous
Me too! :-)
Anonymous
弓 looks like a bow.
Anonymous
I guess 矢 doesn't really look like an arrow, but in my mind it does
08:23
Some Chinese characters can be used as icons in Olympic Games easily. :)
矢 looks like a man shooting an arrow.
Anonymous
Wow!
Anonymous
A slingshot can be called a hand catapult in English
Anonymous
That's not what I think of when I hear catapult! :-)
A catapult is usually something very, very big!
Anonymous
08:26
I wonder if a ballista is a type of bow
Anonymous
:-)
Anonymous
スリングショットとは、Y字型の棹をはじめとする枠構造にゴム紐を張ってあり、弾とゴム紐を一緒につまんで引っ張り手を離すと、弾が飛んでいく仕組みの道具。武器や猟具(→狩猟)の一種で、玩具としての簡易なものはパチンコとも呼ばれる。 スリングショットは、牽引されたゴム紐に蓄えられた弾性エネルギーの大部分を、弾の運動エネルギーに変換し発射する。用途や求められる威力によって様々な形状があり、玩具としての簡易なものでは前述の通りY字型の棹の上両端にゴムを結わえ付け、その中央に弾を保持する構造を持っているが、強い牽引力でも安定して支えられるよう、手首側に支えがある強力なものも製品として出回っている。最近では弾を持つところに磁石がついていて、複数の小さな弾(散弾)を発射できる工夫が施されたものもある。 弾は必要十分な重さと程よい大きさであればよく、手頃な石などのほかドングリなど木の実、製品としては鉛など金属球なども見られる。なお壁面や岩など硬い的への衝突時に粉々に砕けて離れた場所からでも命中箇所が確認しやすいものも販売されている。 スリングショットによる猟は鳥獣保護法では規定されておらず、狩猟免許を必要としない自由猟具を用いた猟に分類される。狩猟免許を必要としないとはいえ、狩猟法に則って、猟期・猟場・狩猟対象の動物の種類や数などについて法令を順守する必要があり、一定の知識と良識ある行動を求められる。...
Anonymous
I don't think anyone would call one of these a 弾弓 today
Anonymous
Why was this migration rejected, I wonder?
Anonymous
08:37
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Q: Which is correct "Get started with" or "Getting started with"?

Suvendu Shekhar GiriWhich is correct Get started with or Getting started with ? If both are correct then which to use when and what is difference between them? I am confused between these two phrases. Just searched "get started or getting started" and found following result : Please help me understanding the th...

Was it rejected because it was put on hold?
Anonymous
It wasn't put on hold, it was closed.
Anonymous
"Put on hold" implies that it's possible to edit and reopen it.
Anonymous
If you hang up the phone, you haven't put someone on hold.
Anonymous
So it's a bug that [on hold] is displayed for rejected migrations.
Anonymous
09:00
There, I had a little ramble on ELU chat
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I don't think the moderators at ELL or ELU are very convinced by what I have to say about migration
Anonymous
But I do think the process is kind of unfortunate the way it is
Anonymous
That's okay, though. All I am is Just A Regular User. I can say what I have to say, and then I can leave the rest to the moderatorly folks who do their moderatorly things :-)
Anonymous
ELU seems to have lots of active mods.
Anonymous
ELL seems to have one, J.R.
Anonymous
09:03
Luckily J.R. does a pretty good job with his moderatoring
09:17
Hi @snailboat
I wanted to check with you if my use of "morphological" was correct yesterday
Las night whentalking about:
> Gently does it
I said that a grammar book I'm reading considers "gently" as a subject and as AdvP
I said subject is semantic characterisation (which I think is right)
and AdvP is a "morphological" characterisation, which I'm not sure is the best description.
What word would you use?
syntactic?
grammatical?
Anonymous
Morphological literally means the study of forms. It's used to discuss grammatical phenomena below the word level
Anonymous
Where syntax refers to grammatical phenomena above the word level
Anonymous
So the way two words goes together is syntax, but matters of inflectional and derivational affixes are morphology
Anonymous
Morphological tests are one of the ways we can figure out what part of speech something is
Anonymous
They're more reliable in some languages than others
Anonymous
09:28
For example, in Japanese, 100% of verbs end in -(r)u
Anonymous
Morphology shouldn't be the sole way we test for parts of speech.
Anonymous
But morphological tests are very useful.
Anonymous
If something takes the plural marker -s, for example, odds are it's a noun. But child has the plural children rather than *childs, so we can't say that if it doesn't take -s it isn't a noun
Are "syntactic" and "grammatical" equivalent? Not really, right? Grammar includes both levels, below and above.
Anonymous
I would define an Adverb Phrase as a phrase with an adverb as its head. That is a syntactic definition.
Anonymous
09:31
As I use the term, grammar is basically morphosyntax: morphology and syntax
Anonymous
But grammar is perhaps easier on the brain :-)
Anonymous
There are different theories of grammar.
Anonymous
Generative linguists often say that grammar has a phonological component.
Thx for the clarification
Anonymous
And some people, like FumbleFingers here on ELL, deny that it's possible to talk about "grammar" as something specific, and claim it's an umbrella term for "what people say"
Anonymous
09:33
I'm not a fan of that view
Anonymous
I would likewise define subject as a syntactic role.
Anonymous
The term subject is used because it was historically (and still is) related to a logical subject-predicate relationship.
Anonymous
You can use subject as a logical term.
Anonymous
I would not use it as a term for a semantic role
Anonymous
And we need some sort of term for the syntactic role, so if we don't use subject, we should come up with some other name for it
Anonymous
09:35
Why not use it for the semantic role? Because subjects can have lots of different semantic roles
Anonymous
So it's too vague to be useful in a semantic sense.
Anonymous
The advantage of separating syntax from semantics is that we can then talk about the multiple semantic roles that correspond to a syntactic role, and vice versa
Anonymous
For example, in the sentence "He was killed by his own doctor" we use a passive (a syntactic concept) to emphasize the doer of the action and mark it as discourse-new, and the doer is expressed by the complement of by ("his own doctor")
Anonymous
But the doer could just as easily be expressed by the subject in an active sentence: "His own doctor killed him!"
Anonymous
By separating syntax from semantics, we allow ourselves to talk about the different ways a given semantic role can be expressed syntactically
Anonymous
09:39
In a number of theories of linguistics, thematic relations is a term used to express the role that a noun phrase plays with respect to the action or state described by a sentence's verb. For example, in the sentence "Susan ate an apple", Susan is the doer of the eating, so she is an agent; the apple is the item that is eaten, so it is a patient. While most modern linguistic theories make reference to such relations in one form or another, the general term, as well as the terms for specific relations, varies; 'participant role', 'semantic role', and 'deep case' have been used analogously to 'thematic...
Anonymous
Do you remain unconvinced that this is useful? :-)
If both AdvP and subject are syntactic definitions, but at the same time belong to different frameworks of syntactic classification, how would you call these frameworks to which the defintions of AdvP and subject belong to?
Anonymous
They both belong to many of the same frameworks.
Anonymous
But they have different theoretical statuses in some frameworks
Anonymous
I would say AdvP is a type of phrase and subject is a type of function
Anonymous
09:42
"His own doctor" is a NP, and one of the functions an NP often has is subject function
Phrasal classifcation vs Functional classification?
Anonymous
By separating constituent categories such as NP from functions such as subject, we gain the ability to describe the functional range of each type of constitutent
Anonymous
Compare "chicken soup" and "tasty soup". If we say that chicken is an adjective in the former, just like tasty, we're using the term adjective for two meanings at the same time
Anonymous
One is for attributive function, and the other is for a lexical class
Mmmm... the functional classification seems to be defined by how constituent interact with the verb in a clause
Anonymous
09:44
The lexical category of adjective has multiple functions: attributive, predicative, postpositive, pre-determiner
Anonymous
The lexical category of noun has multiple functions, including attributive--it overlaps!
Anonymous
It makes more sense to abstract them out because then we can describe the functional range of each and the overlap without suggesting that nouns temporarily become adjectives without gaining any of the other features of adjectives
What defines a phrase?
Anonymous
Such as their distribution, their inflection, etc.
Anonymous
A phrase is a syntactic constituent above the word level which typically has a head
Anonymous
09:46
A phrase consists of one or more constituents, which may be individual words or other phrases
Anonymous
Phrases are typically named for their heads: a VP has a verb for a head, an NP has a noun for a head, etc.
Anonymous
Grammatical features correspond to semantic features.
Anonymous
The traditional definition of a noun, something like 'person place or thing', doesn't work
Anonymous
There are too many counterexamples, and the same is true for almost any word class
Anonymous
Purely semantic definitions don't work
Anonymous
09:48
But!
Anonymous
Semantics are clearly important.
Anonymous
Most nouns are people, places, or things (and so on)
Anonymous
I'm not using that as a rigorous definition, because it's not (if we're going to use a semantic definition it needs to be rather more specific than that one)
Anonymous
But we can use the definition this way:
Anonymous
We can look at our different classes of words and say, which of these is centrally used to express "person, place, or thing"?
Anonymous
09:50
It turns out it's noun, and pretty much every language has a category like it, generally the largest and most open class of all
Anonymous
And we can use those semantic criteria to pick which class we call "noun"
Anonymous
We can't use it as a strict definition because there will always be words that don't really fit the description--there are nouns that denote actions and verbs that don't
Anonymous
But separating grammar from semantics isn't about throwing semantics away. Clearly there are strong correspondences between the two and semantics are very important! It would be impossible to consider them entirely in isolation
Anonymous
It's just about how we choose to express the relation, and making abstractions that buy us simplification
Anonymous
Anyway, I'm about done ;-)
Anonymous
09:52
Sorry to ramble on like that.
Sorry, I didn't expect to take so much of your time
But it's given me more food for thought, so thank you.
Anonymous
It's my choice--I like talking too much ;-)
Anonymous
I will be right back.
11:58
phrase n. group of words forming a unit, esp. within a sentence or clause.
A group of two or more associated words, not containing a subject and predicate: distinguished from clause.
Anonymous
It simplifies things a bit if you generalize that to one or more.
Anonymous
Do you want to say "noun or noun phrase" all the time? :-)
Less technically, and more practically: In speaking and reading aloud, a word or group of words spoken in one breath, preceded and followed by pauses.
@snailboat those are the definitions I found :-)
He asked "what defines a phrase."
Anonymous
12:20
I remember :-)
Anonymous
There's an informal sense in which most people understand the word phrase, which is essentially "a string of two or more words, probably shorter than a sentence"
Anonymous
That's fine, but it's not the most useful definition if you're looking to analyze language
14:40
hi
user116848
14:57
hi
15:25
Hi Everyone
How are you guys?
user116848
Good. You?
I am well, thanks.
I have a question.
user116848
Yes.
How could we write a formal resignation letter?
What are the aspects we need to take care while writing one?
How could we write a formal resignation letter?
15:40
Thanks for bringing this to me, however I have looked at it before I dropped in here. I still guess, the letter can be better than this.
user116848
I see. But they are fine imo :)
17:01
@skullpatrol And what's a unit? A unit is the group of words formed by a phrase!
17:32
I wish I could favourite an answer:
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A: The articles "a" and "the" in generic statements

Samuel LijinCourtesy of John Lawler, to whom this very question was posed 17 years ago (reformatted below): Definite Generic: the + Singular Noun The tiger is in danger of becoming extinct. Plural Generic: <null> + Plural Noun Tigers are in danger of becoming extinct. Indefinite Generi...

17:51
Hi Nico.
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19:02
@Nico +1
Alice: I think I've seen a lovely tiger on ELL. Is it normal to find tigers on ELL?
Bob: Yes, actually tigers frequent the ELL chat room

Alice: What's so special about the ELL tiger?
Bob: The ELL tiger is very keen on English grammar.

Alice: But... what's an ELL tiger?
Bob: An ELL tiger is a grammatical tiger.
"A tiger is friendly" and *"A tiger is in danger of becoming extinct" are of different categories.
@Nico Ahh... The ELL Tiger!
user116848
19:19
Howdy!
user116848
I like Tiger, snail and robot too on ELL :-)
user116848
Very grammatical guys :-)
19:55
Hi everybody
user116848
hi
20:06
@Nico true.

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