Good for them!

My Hagu is sleeping on a table.

He is taking over one of my tables.

It's strange that "pay a visit" once made you wonder.

Ah, I see.

Let's say, a new family just moved in around your neighborhood, could we talk about the first visit as "pay a visit"?

Suppose that we visited them first.

They didn't do anything for you yet.

Ah, I see.

The sense of debt seems to be entirely lost indeed.

Perhaps we must "pay them a visit" so that they can "have a visit (from us)".

@snailboat A great example, btw!

I'm trying to make sense of the usage of this "pay a visit".

Is "I had a visit from two cops today," idiomatic enough?

Hehe.

What if the two officers weren't that nice, how should I say it?

got a visit?

Or probably something else entirely.

I think your w is big enough. :D

Perhaps, "There were two cops asking about you today."

Oh double typos!

Prolly! :D

I think "prequel" and "sequel" for movies are enough by themselves, but "sequel books" is common, maybe.

Waiting for another version: With added snails...

Looks like Eden for snails. :-)

Even snails can be picky too!

Oh, staples really mean regulars, like I guess.

To me, staples are for holding pieces of paper together. :D

I heard that lots of farmers in the US also grow rice.

I don't think that the US really has to import rice.

Hah! I thought you usually eat breads.

Hah! That, I don't know.

That scene is just like our conversation!

I'm probably the one who has to say the last line: Bread Makes You Fat!?!

I think I can eat like that too in my twenties. It's too bad I'm not that young anymore. sobbing

I think Rice can make you fat too!

nods

So true!

Hehe.

It's rather an unlikely scenario.

Really? widen-eyes

Agree, on both accounts.

I think we should stick with whatever that works.

If you can find one that work, lucky you.

I think losing weight is kinda like learning a new language.

What we're discussing applies to language learning too.

The article didn't say how old Twinkie Guy (aka Mark Haub) is, but I googled his pictures, he looks rather young.

Hah! He's about my age.

It's the same here.

If he's 18 in his first year at his college, and he got a B.A. in '92, he must be 47 by now.

Oh, no. I miscalculated it.

Yeah, I think he's 44.

Hello @StoneyB

Hello, Damkerng T. Sorry I missed you ... I'm just wandering in and out between scribbling.

AARRGGH I want to vent, but there is no one here to vent to.

I'm here, but I'm not sure if I'm good enough for you to vent to, though. :-)

But I'm rather sure about what made you want to vent.

Hello.

Oh, hello!

How was your exam?

Oh, it was really good! You remembered it.

Yep. Glad to hear that!

Are you really an astronaut?

Oh, my avatar isn't really an astronaut, it's a robot. It's Asimo.

Oh, I'm sorry!

Are you related to the work on this robot?

Though I'd love to have a space trip some day, if that's possible.

@ParthKohli Don't worry. You're not the first to see it as an astronaut.

And really, it looks like one. :-)

Nope. Though I wish I would.

I picked the photo during the Hats season last year.

Ah, I see!

I enjoyed my hats very much. :D

What do you do for a living?

And frankly, I got hooked into this site because of the hats.

I was a programmer, and now is a small business owner.

Ah, programming is good - I've been planning to learn it.

I'm only an amateur.

I think you might already know how to program.

Why so?

It seems like it's a normal thing for young people these days. (At least to me.)

And you know TeX. :D

I'm not able to really do longer things, which is the only thing I should actually know.

That's simple. Just break larger things into smaller things.

I am not too patient - that is one weakness.

Ah, I see.

Being patient is valuable.

Or should I say invaluable?

But I hope to pick it up as I move. :)

I'm sure that you will pick it up, and soon enough.

What do you program?

Hmm... A lot of things. Probably too many. :-)

And which language?

But the recent stuff involved telecom stuff.

Also too many. Hehe.

I think I left programming just before Ruby became popular.

Ah! I went to Bangkok last year. Good place, it was

That's nice to hear.

Where had you been to?

Maybe the Khao San road. (Not sure about the spelling.)

Probably more of Pattaya.

Ah, Pattaya is also nice.

The last time I went there was perhaps 6 years ago.

Really?

About it being nice, or about me being there?

Anyway, yes and yes. :-)

Six years...

I know that it's nice. Haha

Lately, I changed to go to Hua Hin instead.

It's a bit more peaceful there.

I've heard a lot about Hua Hin too.

Unfortunately, it was a really short trip.

I see. If you have only a short trip, Pattaya is probably your best bet.

Another good place is Phuket, but it's rather expensive.

And, hey, if you don't want the beach, Bangkok is also fine. (Probably not recently, but it will over soon, I hope.)

I'm not a fan of beaches either, but the view from the hotel was really good.

Water ski and banana boats are fun too.

I attempted to do windsurfing once, but failed. I'm not that gifted. :D

I found those on the coral island.

Didn't want to risk it.

I think they also have things like go-karts, bungee-jumping, and paragliding too, recently. I'm sure about the go-karts.

Paragliding was on the way to coral island. Really good.

I also went underwater.

They don't have anything like that in India. :(

Ah, I don't know about the underwater. Was it still good?

Yes, enjoyed it thoroughly!

Nice! :D

anyone here?

Yes?

@DamkerngT. you know how to program in python?

A bit rusty, perhaps.

I know a little bit...

how do you run it?

Windows or Linux.

What are you using?

It just runs automatically. if i close it, it does not reopen then

Typically, you can run it from command-line.

windows 7

then?

And you have Python installed already?

yes

You can either write everything on the command line, or use a command on the command line that implements a program.

2.7.6

I think you can double-click on your .py file.

If that doesn't work, use the Command Prompt window as ParthKohli said.

no, it does not run

Google is your friend.

google is just nothing!

Press Window+R, type "cmd".

Then, type "cd yourdirectory"

Why not use ">>>"

youdirectory?

I have saved on desktop

Oh, I think Python has IDLE too, lately.

i am using IDLE

yes, then use it.

Don't remember that command, but I used it.

I'm a rather old schooler, so I type "python myprog.py" at my command prompt.

@Utkarsh Use Ubuntu.

No time for changing the OS

Oh, it's just that you didn't include Python.exe in your PATH.

oh! this Python is tooooo hard

Hmm... I don't have Windows 7 at the moment, but I think you can set Environment Variables for the Command Prompt somewhere.

In case of emergency, you can do this...

or i can just use Ubuntu in Virtualbox

You can.

But if you know where python.exe is, on your machine, you can use its full pathname.

See if I have Python installed here.

Oh, I don't have it installed.

But say you can do something like, "C:\Python26\bin\python.exe myprog.py"

If you have it installed under C:\Python26\bin\.

Another simple way is to use PythonWin. :D

okay

Sorry, it's WinPython.

winpython.sourceforge.net

It's portable, just download the zip file, unzip it, and double-click the IPython Qt icon, and you're ready to go.

Okay, made it. How to save it?

What do you mean by "save"?

Perhaps, just copy-and-paste. :D

I want it to run like a setup when i open it

You mean double-clicking on your .py script?

Oh, I think you mean turn .py into .exe.

yes

I haven't done it myself, sorry. :D

But py2exe is your friend.

I think lately there are more new ways to release your Python programs as .exe too.

Does distutils still exist?

?

Earlier, distutils is at the core of Python to facilitate code distribution.

But people seem not to like it much.

It seemed like they're moving toward distutils2.

But I didn't code much lately, so...

Can you suggest any other programming language? through which i can make .exe messageboxes easily?

Easily?

Well, C/C++ is easy to generate .exe, but...

but what?

But coding in C++ is not rather simple.

However, if all you need is just a simple message box, it can be done.

what software is required for c++?

The simplest option is to use MinGW

Visual C++ is fine, if you already have it installed.

Probably easier.

I have Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Express, but I think that download link is gone.

visual c++? okay

I think you can only download Microsoft Visual Studio Express 2013 now, perhaps.

I usually prefer command-line versions, small and simple.

Lately, it's rather bloated.

Oh, you have that!

I don't. :D

But it should work too.

no, i am just downloading

For the code, I think this one is simple enough: forum.codecall.net/topic/68408-win32-tutorial-part-1-messagebox

@DamkerngT. which software to use to program with that code?\

C/C++

c++ is a software?

On Windows, mainly either Microsoft Visual C++, or MinGW.

It's a language.

Microsoft Visual C++ and MinGW are something you can use to compile C/C++ code.

okay, i am downloading Visual Studio 2010, what language will i use in it?

C/C++

I think it would take up a lot of time

I didn't see it. cover eyes :D

what?

why? you don't like screenshot?

Not very much. :D

Aha, I just did msgbox.c in MinGW.

I am very hungry today

I didn't code for a long time.

I hate coding

It can be frustrating as well as fun. :D

Have you got MinGW installed yet?

nope, i am confused

which setup to download

Hmm... Indeed, there are too many ways to set up MinGW.

Ah! I'm tired noe

and i am seeing no hope.

I wanted to learn programming :-(

Once you have MinGW or Visual C++ installed, try to compile this code:

okay, i found it

i am downloading

Oh, I just found the simplest way to install MinGW, it's very old, but it works: sourceforge.net/projects/tcl/files/msys_mingw/0.8/…

I'm surprised that it's still there.

Download the zip file "msys_mingw8.zip", unzip it somewhere, and you're ready to go.

@DamkerngT. actually, i have downloaded the setup and it is install in C drive. what to open there? there is no exe file

@DamkerngT. Why w8 is there? i am using windows 7

You've downloaded the MinGW's setup program or you've it set up already?

It's MinGW version 8. :D

Which is very old, but quite useful and trustworthy.

I use it sometimes, to compile old codes.

If you just download the MinGW's setup program of the current MinGW, probably "msys_mingw8.zip" is easier.

It's from the old days that you don't have to install anything, at all.

And everything is really, really small.

@DamkerngT. Hi

@Utkarsh Hi

@IceGirl hello

Can somebody help me?

@DamkerngT. Help

There are roughly three New Yorks.

There is, first, the New York of the man or woman who was born here, who takes the city for granted and accepts its size and turbulence as natural and inevitable.

Second, there is the New York of the commuter—the city that is devoured by locusts each day and spat out each night.

Third, there is the New York of the person who was born somewhere else and came to New York in quest of something. Of these three trembling cities the greatest is the last—the city of final destination, the city that is a goal.

It is this third city that accounts for New York’s high-strung disposition, its poetical deportment, its dedication to the arts, and its incomparable achievements. Commuters give the city its tidal restlessness; natives give it solidity and continuity; but the settlers give it passion.

And whether it is a farmer arriving from Italy to set up a small grocery store in a slum, or a young girl arriving from a small town in Mississippi to escape the indignity of being observed by her neighbors, or a boy arriving from the Corn Belt with a manuscript in his suitcase and a pain in his heart, it makes no difference:

each embraces New York with the intense excitement of first love, each absorbs New York with the fresh eyes of an adventurer, each generates heat and light to dwarf the Consolidated Edison Company.

roughly?

who takes the city for granted?

turbulence as natural and inevitable?

spat out each night?

in quest of something?

trembling cities?

accounts for New York’s high-strung disposition?

poetical deportment?

its dedication to the arts?

tidal restlessness?

natives give it solidity and continuity?

but the settlers give it passion?

a pain in his heart?

each embraces?

Please read this paragraph

:-O

I wrote my questions

:)

roughly here means not exactly

right?

let me go get some food, be right back

OK

:)

hehehe