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Anonymous
17:00
Unfortunately, that takes clarity of thought and perhaps more effort than I want to put into an answer right now :-)
The problem is sometimes they couldn't make the points in their own questions clear enough.
Anonymous
True.
Anonymous
I leave comments fairly often asking for clarification.
Some problems are almost like a guessing game. :-)
Anonymous
Purely from a descriptive point of view, I'd say that proximal agreement is a good counterexample to agreement with subject.
Anonymous
17:01
Verbs sometimes change form to agree with something nearer them than the head noun of the subject NP.
Oh! That's new to me.
Perhaps because I've never analyzed it like that.
Anonymous
Well, how do you analyze agreement with a disjunctive (complex) subject?
For example?
Anonymous
Well
Anonymous
3
A: "It is" or "it are"

snailplaneA verb and its subject generally agree in number: It is the birds he is chasing away. The Great Lakes are the largest surface freshwater system on the Earth. (example from epa.gov) In some dialects and in limited situations, agreement can be notional instead: %The Clash are a well-kno...

Anonymous
17:04
See how iffy it gets when you start talking about the grey areas? :-)
I think (thought?) it's always It is ....
Anonymous
Yes.
Anonymous
I agree, and I said so in my answer
If you want to use are, They are ... is much better.
Anonymous
I agree.
17:08
@Whiskey Being an academic student of English, I was mildly offended by being migrated to an "English learners" site, so I am guessing others will be as well. But the it is question simply is a learner's mistake, so I have to admit the question does belong here. I do think, however, that it'd be better to invest more in other languages than to have two Q&A's for English. — Bram Vanroy Oct 13 '13 at 19:56
I see your (BV's) pride. :-)
Anonymous
I think the O is part of the date (October)
Oh, true! My bad. :-)
Anonymous
The question of whether verbs are finite in imperative and subjunctive constructions is an interesting one
Could be.
Anonymous
According to the criterion I gave, they sound pretty non-finite to me. They don't change form to agree with anything.
Anonymous
17:11
But most people consider them to be finite. So perhaps there are other traits we can discuss for finite versus non-finite
As a learner, I just remember their patterns.
Anonymous
Oh. I didn't mean to say it would be useful for learning to speak English :-)
Ah, I see your point now.
Anonymous
Likewise, most native speakers just remember their patterns.
Anonymous
Although they might not be able to name them as such.
Anonymous
17:13
Anyway, I wasn't really trying to teach you anything--I just enjoy talking about English, and it's an interesting question, even though I don't plan to answer it myself :-)
Me too. Teaching or not, I like to chat with you.
Anonymous
Actually, IIRC there are some linguists who say that an imperative construction doesn't have a covert subject.
Ah, that's good news.
Anonymous
Although I don't find that very convincing, I'm always attracted to analyses that talk about things as they are
I always find it strange in Thai's grammar taught in our schools about the implied "you".
Anonymous
17:15
I don't like analyzing something as ellipsis when you can't reasonably un-ellipt it. :-)
Anonymous
It's taught here in the US, too. It's the mainstream view.
Obviously, this idea must have been influenced by English grammar.
Anonymous
Ah, yes, I bet.
But when I say an imperative sentence, I've never thought of this "you", ever.
[do-it-now]
Anonymous
I doubt many speakers of English consciously think they're omitting you when they form an imperative, either.
17:17
No [you] in there, and not in my head either.
(Actually, we usually say it as [do-now]. No [it] in there, either.)
Anonymous
But in a logical sense, in which the predicate predicates on a logical subject
Anonymous
Which is after all where the terms subject and predicate come from
Anonymous
The logical subject is usually "you".
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. Japanese is similarly minimal in that respect
I'm not sure if there is a language that [you] is dropped and there are different kinds of [you].
Anonymous
17:19
An awful lot of Japanese imperatives consist of a single word--the verb! :-)
Same in Thai too!
Anonymous
But then, many grammarians would insist that every main clause have a subject, and that if it doesn't, then it's still there in spirit.
Oh, sometimes we drop the verb too.
[now]!
Anonymous
5!
If there are too many thieves iany area
so what will you say
there are too many stealing cases in this srea
/area
is it correct?
17:21
You already said two alternatives.
Anonymous
There's too much crime around here. It's a high-crime area. We should move to somewhere safer. I don't want to get robbed!
no
if there are too many stealing cases
Anonymous
"Stealing cases" is grammatical but unnatural.
Lots of robberies happened in our neighborhood last month, you know?
robbery is same as stealing?
Anonymous
17:23
More or less.
Anonymous
Robbery is a good word to use here.
Anonymous
Stealing is a little more general, I think.
there are too many robbery cases
Anonymous
Another general word is theft
Anonymous
You don't want to use cases.
17:25
Oh, just recall another idiom: breaking and entering
there are too many robberies?
Anonymous
Yeah, that would work. There are too many robberies
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. B&E! Police or legal jargon.
Anonymous
They may be referred to as B&Es.
Oh, how they pronounce it? "Bee and Eee"?
17:26
snailplane why don't u write a book of English grammar?
Anonymous
Yeah. Like BNE.
Anonymous
@hellodear2 My main interest is in Japanese grammar.
@snailplane Thanks.
Anonymous
There are a lot of good books on English grammar, by the way.
Anonymous
One of the most commonly recommended to learners is Michael Swan's Practical English Usage
17:29
Should I read grammar books?
You could.
Or should I continue with my thinking in English method?
Anonymous
Are you interested enough in grammar to read books about grammar?
Anonymous
I recommend reading, watching, and listening to what interests you.
my main aim is to speak very efficently in English
no matter I know rules or not
Anonymous
17:30
Motivation is the single most important factor in language learning.
i want to speak in front of 1000s of people without any fear
Speaking fluently != speaking correctly
Anonymous
In general, I don't recommend reading a book about grammar from cover to cover unless you are either 1. interested or 2. can make yourself interested.
don't u think people will notice about grammatical errors you are making while speaking?
Of course, they will.
Anonymous
17:31
Some books are intended to be worked through like that, but you can also get reference books, those designed for you to look up individual things you're confused about
But is it really a big deal?
Anonymous
Then you can look them up when you encounter them in context and you want to know more.
Anonymous
@hellodear2 Yes, people will sometimes notice grammatical errors you make while speaking.
@snailplane which book should I read?
Anonymous
17:31
People won't always. Even if they do, it won't always matter.
@dam don't u think it will have bad impact ?
It depends on a lot of other things.
you are talking to your manager, then?
if you are talking to CEO of your company?
Oh, I talked to many managers with my bad English before.
Anonymous
Many people are very understanding about grammatical errors and so forth. The most important thing is getting your ideas across effectively.
17:33
None of them complained about my English.
Anonymous
When grammatical errors prevent you from communicating effectively, they become a problem.
Perhaps they're busy with something more important.
hmmm.....
Yeah. What will you prefer?
Good English helps.
But it's not the absolute requirement.
an employee who can't speak grammatically correct but he is fluent
and one who is not fluent but grammactially correct
17:35
I don't care neither of them.
Anonymous
By the way, you might want to be careful about using all-lowercase, using abbreviations like "u" and "ur", putting unnecessary spaces around punctuation, and so forth
Anonymous
Some people will judge you based on these habits.
I care if they can make themselves understandable.
And if they can understand others.
Anonymous
To be honest, I don't think anyone knows exactly what "fluent" means. And the people who do don't agree with one other :-)
actually I speak too fastly
17:36
@snailplane I agree. I was surprised to read that stuttering are considered non-fluent.
Anonymous
Many people speak too fast. Especially when they're nervous!
I speak "this is" as this only I will merge them
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. Stuttering can be referred to as a type of dysfluency, I think.
I don't how can I correct it
@snailplane Even though they are native speakers?
Anonymous
17:38
@DamkerngT. I think perhaps the term fluent has two different meanings there.
Anonymous
@hellodear2 You mean you say "this is" as though it's "this"?
@hellodear2 Practice your pronunciation.
like I speak too fastly
i start missing to say complete words
Anonymous
If you speak too fast, then the answer is (unfortunately) obvious: slow down :-)
17:39
i don't finish one word
ill then i start second word
+10000
Anonymous
It can be hard not to speak too fast when you're under pressure or feeling nervous.
By the way, how fast is too fast?
faster than fast is too fast
Anonymous
17:40
You can speak very clearly and effectively slowly.
yup
that's what I want.
I will make you understand. what does make mean here?
Anonymous
I will cause you to understand.
force you?
or convince you?
Anonymous
It could mean "force".
Anonymous
Depending on context.
17:42
my sis came to me asking about a question
and I said politely that I would make her understand
Anonymous
"Hey, Frankie! This guy don't wanna pony up the protection money! Well, if he don't want to understand on his own, then I guess we gots to make him understand..."
haha
I know about this make :-p
Anonymous
@hellodear2 It might be more polite in that situation to say "I'll help you understand"
Anonymous
Or "I'll try to help you understand"
hmmm.....
nice.... "help" is better word
Anonymous
17:44
I think you're right that "make you understand" can have a connotation of being a bit forcible.
that's what I felt after saying it to my sis :-D
I thought i had scolded her
:')
Anonymous
Hehe!
I will come in an hour or so. what does "so" mean here?
Anonymous
"An hour or so" = "Around an hour"
I thought he had said an hour or two
but someone told me that he had said an hour or so
out of the world!!
Anonymous
I used to have a hat. It died :-(
can a hat die?
Anonymous
This hat did.
lolx!!
haha
Anonymous
17:50
Is that... Doraemon smoking a cigarette?
yes
:')
is it nice?
Anonymous
Oh, Doraemon! How far you've fallen :-(
Anonymous
I never saw any Doraemon cartoons or anything when I was little.
Anonymous
Oh! I have an opportunity to teach you something about English.
Anonymous
17:52
Lots of people say bro all the time.
Anonymous
Other people, like me, do not ever say bro. :-)
Me neither.
Anonymous
Yarly.
Anonymous
17:53
(Out-of-date net.speak for "Yeah, really!")
Anonymous
You have a million image macros, don't you?
Sooo True!! Obama himself is ssaying it to you.
Anonymous
Obama can say whatever he likes. I'm not listening. :-)
but you have to listen to him :'-)
Anonymous
I think that image macro can go away.
17:54
hahahha
I think hellodear2 prefers practicing posting pictures than learning English.
no :(
do you think so?
:(
Anonymous
It's usually "A prefers B to C."
I'm kidding. :P
Oh, that's a good catch. Thank you.
Can you please call me?
Can you please call me up?
Can you please call up me?
Anonymous
17:56
The former is better.
Anonymous
Call up me is wrong.
what's difference between call up and call?
Anonymous
When you have an idiomatic verb+particle combination like call up (a so-called "phrasal verb"), the object can appear between the verb and particle. It can also appear after, unless it's an unstressed personal pronoun.
I've never called anyone or anything up.
17:58
but is there any difference in the meaning?
Does it work in gaming context?
Anonymous
Cal up in this case means the same thing as call, but I think it's a little more informal...? Not sure exactly.
Anonymous
It sounds funny in that instance, anyway.
Oh, you bad monster, let me call my Pokemon up.
Anonymous
Possibly because of the conflict in formality with please.
18:00
wake v.s wake up
pick v.s pick up
please, Pick up my call.
Please, wake me up at 9:00 am
Anonymous
v.s is wrong. You can abbreviate versus to vs.
Anonymous
It is however only one word.
oh, Thanks for correcting me
Anonymous
(Another common error is abbreviating confer to c.f., when it should be simply cf. or cf)
Please, I want all of you to correct me whenever I go wrong in any sentence. It will help me in a long run. :'_)
Anonymous
18:02
In the long run
Anonymous
It's an idiom.
but you said that "long time" has 'a' with it
Anonymous
Yeah, most often people say for a long time
Anonymous
Not for the long time
18:03
cool.
Anonymous
Articles are tricky beasts.
I think I must start observing people
What others say most frequently
I should use that
Anonymous
Yeah, that's a good way to do it.
it will help me in the long run :'-)
Anonymous
Yeah!
18:04
yeyy!!
Anonymous
"Yay"
Anonymous
Yay!
And for doubts, ELL and you all are here :'-)
Yay!!
you all are here or all of you are here?
My all friends are doing this OR All of my friend are doing this.
all of my friends
I think you can use either.
All my friends
18:06
My all friends is ungrammatical?
I wouldn't say it.
Anonymous
Yes.
Anonymous
All my friends.
Anonymous
Or all of my friends. Either one, as Damkerng says.
and what about All of my friends?
oh
hmm...
Anonymous
18:07
They're both okay.
Yeah, I got it.
Hey, Snailplane, Do you also ask questions on ELL? :-p
I'm going to read chapter 2.
Anyone want to read along?
@dam which chapter are you talking about?
yeah, sure!
Farewell to Arms by Ernest Hemingway
is it a novel?
18:09
I did chapter one yesterday.
Yes, a very sad one.
Have you heard about Jeffrey Archer?
or Chetan Bhagat?
or charles Dickens?
Anonymous
@hellodear2 I have not yet asked a question on ELL.
Nope.
Oh, Charles Dickens!
@snailplane That's what I have guessed!
:-)
@dam I have read 5 novels until now.
That's good.
18:11
I get bored of reading very easily.
Read more, if you can.
Anonymous
Five novels in English is pretty good. Yeah, keep going! But find something you don't think is boring :-)
Oh! BRB
I have time but I get bored of it even if story is going great. :'(
Anonymous
I admit, I'm more of a reader of contemporary fiction than the like of Dickens.
18:13
Who is more contemporary, between Dickens and Hemingway?
Anonymous
Um, if you forced me to answer, I'd pick Hemingway
Anonymous
What do you mean by contemporary?
Anonymous
Oh, that was the entire first chapter?
@snailplane Style, usage, grammar, vocabulary, etc.
Yes.
Anonymous
18:15
For some reason, I thought they were only excerpts.
I was surprised too. :-)
Anonymous
You can read the whole thing here: archive.org/details/farewelltoarms01hemi
they are sort of summaries
should I read it?
Is it good?
Is it using good grammar?
Anonymous
What sorts of things do you like to read?
Anonymous
Yes, A Farewell to Arms typically uses what we'd still call good grammar today.
18:18
um... romantic
@snailplane I downloaded that one.
action
music
Anonymous
You like to read music.
read about music
The lyrics, or the history about music?
18:19
anything
anything, really anything about music
I am a singer too.
Oh! Nice!
I can't sing. :-(
I earn a lot with the help of singing only.
Do you want to listen to my voice?
I have learnt a lot
although you will not be able to understand Hindi.
I'm currently listening to Eminem.
18:21
Okies!
You can upload your singing to YouTube, I guess.
have you heard about soundcloud.com?
yes, I have a channel too
Oh! That's great!
Not many followers, but 124 only till this date.
:-)
124 followers is great.
18:22
is ir are?
is or are?
If I say "are" it would mean they are great not your channel.
ohh
really?
"124 followers" is great. <-- It's great!
124 followers is like any single word
In formal writing, you might need to quote it.
18:24
wow
I think there is a question on something similar too.
Like, 5 kilometers is a long distance.
Can't remember its link.
yeah
I say that
5 kms is a long distance
but never thought about it too much :-)
ok!
till then I will read chapter 1. :-)
Anonymous
We say is with quantities sometimes.
18:34
Ready for Chapter II?
Okay, I will go line by line. Feel free to interrupt. I will put his text in quotes.
Farewell to Arms by Ernest Hemingway.
Chapter 2
> The next year there were many victories.
> The mountain that was beyond the valley and the hillside where the chestnut forest grew was captured and there were victories beyond the plain on the plateau to the south and we crossed the river in August and lived in a house in Gorizia that had a fountain and many thick shady trees in a walled garden and a wistaria vine purple on the side of the house.
> Now the fighting was in the next mountains beyond and was not a mile away.
> The town was very nice and our house was very fine.
> The river ran behind us and the town had been captured very handsomely but the mountains beyond it could not be taken and I was very glad the Austrians seemed to want to come back to the town some time, if the war should end, because they did not bombard it to destroy it but only a little in a military way
> People lived on in it and there were hospitals and cafes and artillery up side streets and two bawdy houses, one for troops and one for officers, and with the end of the summer, the cool nights, the fighting in the mountains beyond the town, the shell-marked iron of the railway bridge, the smashed tunnel by the river where the fighting had been, the trees around the square and the long avenue of trees that led to the square;
> these with there being girls in the town, the King passing in his motor car, sometimes now seeing his face and little long necked body and gray beard like a goat's chin tuft ;
> all these with the sudden interiors of houses that had lost a wall through shelling, with plaster and rubble in their gardens and sometimes in the street, and the whole thing going well on the Carso made the fall very different form the last fall when we had been in the country.
> The war was changed too.
18:55
> The forest of oak trees on the mountain beyond the town was gone.
> The forest had been green in the summer when we had come into town but now there were the stumps and the broken trunks and the ground torn up, and one day at the end of the fall when I was out where the oak forest had been I saw a cloud coming over the mountain.
@IceGirl Hello!
Is it story?
Yes, it's a novel. Continue?
Anonymous
@IceGirl Hello!

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