English Language Learners

Ice Girl

21:00

Guess

Damkerng T.

In a trip?

Ice Girl

Noch

Damkerng T.

Hmm...

It's hard to guess.

Your parents know his parents?

Ice Girl

No

Damkerng T.

Hmm...

I give up.

You can tell me.

(or not, if you don't want to)

Ice Girl

21:02

Never mind

It's not important I think so

Damkerng T.

I see.

Ice Girl

Sorry

Damkerng T.

It's all right.

Something personal is something personal.

Ice Girl

Thank you

Damkerng T.

Don't worry about it.

:)

Ice Girl

21:04

I really fell in love

:)

Damkerng T.

So you meet him often?

Ice Girl

Do you experience it?

Yes

Damkerng T.

Of course, I must have.

Ice Girl

Before you get married?

Damkerng T.

Yes

Ice Girl

21:05

Wow

Damkerng T.

I had a few girlfriends before getting married.

It's normal here.

Ice Girl

So you marry with your love or not?

Yes, I know

Damkerng T.

We love each other.

What other good reason do you need to get married?

Nothing else, but love!

Huh?

Ice Girl

How can I say?

Damkerng T.

curious

Ice Girl

21:10

I don't know how to I say

Damkerng T.

What is it you want to say?

You can try saying them little by little.

Ice Girl

Ok

Relax, ease ok?

Damkerng T.

Okay

^^

Ice Girl

And some other reasons I can't say about them

Sorry

Damkerng T.

You mean it's forbidden?

Ice Girl

21:13

Yeah

:)

Damkerng T.

If it's forbidden then you don't have to say it.

I understand.

Is it normal in Iran for a woman to work?

Ice Girl

He doesn't like to chatting with men. I told him about I chat for questions

Of course yes

Damkerng T.

I see, he doesn't like you to chat with other men.

Ice Girl

yes

Damkerng T.

That's perfectly normal.

Did he offer himself as your tutor?

Ice Girl

21:16

No

Damkerng T.

It might not easy because you are in different places.

Ice Girl

But men in Iran are different from the other countries

Damkerng T.

How?

I don't know.

Ice Girl

Yes, he trust me and believe me

Damkerng T.

Ah, I see.

Ice Girl

21:18

Whatever you think it's different

Damkerng T.

I guess.

I really have no idea what it's like.

Ice Girl

np

Damkerng T.

Can women work after getting married?

Ice Girl

Yes, why not

Damkerng T.

I don't know.

Ice Girl

21:21

We have women bus driver in Iran

Damkerng T.

Wow!

That's a good news!

We don't have many women drivers here.

Ice Girl

Many teachers in Iran are women

Damkerng T.

Ah, that's understandable,

Women usually are better with kids.

Ice Girl

Yes

Damkerng T.

Do you want to be a teacher too?

Ice Girl

21:23

Yes

Damkerng T.

Teaching translation?

Or things in general?

Ice Girl

But I'm not strict teacher and bother my students

No just translating

Damkerng T.

I see. You must be a good teacher.

Ice Girl

Thanks

Damkerng T.

Sounds like your teachers are strict.

Ice Girl

21:25

Yes

Most of them are....

Damkerng T.

@IceGirl You don't have to thank me. I think you can be a good teacher really

@IceGirl I think they are strict in good will.

Ice Girl

No

I don't think so

Bother students it's not good

Damkerng T.

They might just want their students to be good at what they learn.

Ice Girl

Yes, I agree but when the teacher cause the stressful situations for students I think it's really harmful than useful

Damkerng T.

I see. Your assignments are difficult.

And there are too many.

Ice Girl

21:31

Yes. Do you remember my essay was about Las Vegas?

Damkerng T.

How many classmates do you have?

Yes, I remember.

Ice Girl

5

Damkerng T.

Only 5!

You must be close friends.

Ice Girl

Yes

No not much

Damkerng T.

What about Las Vegas?

Ice Girl

21:34

I hate the situation there. Really sinful city in the world I think so

Damkerng T.

I see.

Ice Girl

She gave this text and asked us really strange questions

about it

Damkerng T.

I think they call Las Vegas a sin city.

Ice Girl

Do you like it?

Damkerng T.

What kind of strange questions?

Ice Girl

21:36

And also godless city too

Damkerng T.

Ah, I see. So she asked you Do you like it?

Ice Girl

No

Damkerng T.

You ask me?

Ice Girl

Come on

It's not strange question

Yes

Damkerng T.

I don't mind being there.

But I don't think I will stay there very long.

I mean I might be curious about what happens there.

But I think I don't really like it much.

So what kind of strange questions did she asked you?

Ice Girl

21:39

Never and never and never go to this kind of place

Damkerng T.

I see.

Ice Girl

About paraphrase the difficult sentences in the text

Really difficult

She choose hardest sentences in it

Damkerng T.

I think paraphrasing doesn't make it strange, yes?

Ice Girl

Not asked us paraphrasing

Damkerng T.

Ah, it's about the sentence that was chosen.

Huh?

Not paraphrasing?

Then do what?

Ice Girl

21:42

Main idea, thesis statement, mode of development, the ideology of writer,....

Damkerng T.

Wow!

I don't think they are too strange...

if she told you what they are.

But if she didn't, then it's strange.

Ice Girl

Never mind

Please

Damkerng T.

Okay

Ice Girl

You remember now I'm just student not professor

Damkerng T.

I know.

Is it a 4-year course?

Ice Girl

21:46

Yes

Damkerng T.

So you will become a professor within this 4 years. ;-)

Ice Girl

Ok

Cerberus

Perhaps she means teacher?

Damkerng T.

I also mean teacher too. :-)

Ice Girl

:)

Cerberus

21:48

Oh!

Ice Girl

You tell me about yourself now it's your turn

Damkerng T.

She means you, Cerberus. :P

Ice Girl

@DamkerngT. No, I mean YOU

Damkerng T.

Ouch!

I'm a bottle opener.

Ice Girl

What else?

Damkerng T.

21:51

Hmm...

I'm a gardener too.

Anonymous

Yay! I know who to come to when I can't get a bottle open.

Damkerng T.

^^

Only if you can send bottles over the web. :)

Ice Girl

Your job is the gardener?

Damkerng T.

Not really.

Bit I like my garden.

Ice Girl

What is your job?

Damkerng T.

21:53

It's something personal. ;-)

Anonymous

Gardens are good for feeding snails.

Damkerng T.

My neighbors usually refer to my garden as a forest.

I think that might help you imagine how good a gardener I am. :)

Anonymous

When I was growing up, we had a rather large back yard, and a portion of it was a closed-off garden

Anonymous

No one in my family tended to the garden, and by the time I was old enough to remember what the garden was like, we called it "The Jungle"

Damkerng T.

Haha.

Must look quite similar to mine.

I noticed that birds particularly like my garden better than everyone else's around here.

Ice Girl

21:56

@DamkerngT. You asked me all the things that you want to know but now it's your turn you said it's something personal. really strange :(

Damkerng T.

I think it might help them feel natural.

I think I told you something personal too, right.

Ice Girl

It's Ok for me I learn I never say about my life and never trust people in this chat room

Damkerng T.

Come on.

Anonymous

It's true. Never trust people in this chat room. We are all out to get you.

Ice Girl

fortunately I didn't say important things

Anonymous

22:01

"I didn't say anything important." is more natural than "I didn't say important things."

Anonymous

Why? I don't know.

Cerberus

Habit.

Ice Girl

@DamkerngT. :(

Damkerng T.

:(

Anonymous

On the other hand, ":(" is perfectly natural English.

Cerberus

22:02

@snailplane Hey, move that tripod away, you're blocking my view of Ice Girl's window.

I'm the dog behind you.

Anonymous

@Cerberus You'd be fine if you just put the ladder away!

Cerberus

Ehh but I need it!

So I have to sit somewhere else.

Oh, and the flickering of your smartphone is distracting in the dark.

Anonymous

Well, it keeps flashing each time I take pictures.

Anonymous

I don't know how to turn that off.

Ice Girl

@DamkerngT. It's the reason why I hate boys and men

Damkerng T.

22:04

Please do not share personal contact information in this chat room.

Cerberus

@snailplane Ah, yes, of course.

Good one.

98,8272,7727 : 24,7361,1129

Oops, I didn't mean to post my GPS coördinates.

[email protected]

Oops.

Damkerng T.

coördinates can say something.

:)

Cerberus

Like...my exact location?

Anonymous

Ooh, I like your diaeresis.

Cerberus

bows

It is the Way we Do Things in EL&U.

Especially in the word noöne.

Ice Girl

22:08

@DamkerngT. You really sad me tonight

I'm so sorry for myself

Anonymous

I wonder if I've sad anyone today.

Cerberus

Perhaps you have sat guests in the theatre?

At least they were sat somewhere, so they must have been sat by someone...

Anonymous

Satting someone doesn't sound very nice.

Ice Girl

@DamkerngT. ?????????????

Damkerng T.

Your sadness is acknowledged.

But I think I couldn't do anything much.

Cerberus

22:12

Coördinates say: no.

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. I think it's her choice to be sad.

Damkerng T.

Wouldn't you like to know how I feel too?

Ice Girl

how feel?

:(

Damkerng T.

Not very good.

Ice Girl

Why?

Damkerng T.

22:15

What do you think?

Ice Girl

I don't know because of I said why I hate....

I'm so sorry for myself

or this one?

Damkerng T.

I'm not sure if I can understand what you mean.

Cerberus

arches eyebrows

Ice Girl

@DamkerngT. Ok why are you not very good?

Damkerng T.

I don't know how to put it.

Ice Girl

22:18

What?

Damkerng T.

I thought we're friends, right?

Ice Girl

OK

But I remember you told me you aren't my friend

Cerberus

...

Ice Girl

Do you remember?

Damkerng T.

So we are not friends.

Cerberus

22:22

Certain things are just beyond comprehension.

Damkerng T.

?

Ice Girl

So what?

I'm confused

Damkerng T.

Sometimes I just don't understand.

Ice Girl

What?

Damkerng T.

When did I told you we're not friends?

If we're not friends, why do I have to waste my time helping you?

Ice Girl

22:24

Almost 3 or 4 weeks ago

Damkerng T.

Ah, then it's one-side friend?

Ice Girl

Sorry?

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. You can help people who aren't your friends. There's nothing wrong with that.

Ice Girl

@DamkerngT. I don't know if you don't like to help me it's ok I told it you at first, if you remember it. I don't force you to help me when you don't want or like

Damkerng T.

I can, but I might help only a bit.

So I have nothing to feel sad, right?

Anonymous

22:28

I've never had an opportunity to become friends with Ice Girl, since all she's done is ask people do to things for her and then get frustrated with those people and try to make them feel bad.

Anonymous

But there's nothing to really feel bad about

Anonymous

Unless you choose to feel bad about it.

Anonymous

I don't. I have no problem helping if I have the time and mental energy, but I don't have any obligation to help

Ice Girl

@snailplane Sorry?

Cerberus

@snailplane Same.

I'm making an effort her not to star you two.

2

ungggg

Ice Girl

22:32

@DamkerngT. here?

Damkerng T.

I'm waiting for your answer.

Ice Girl

@DamkerngT. I don't understand what snailplane said about me

@DamkerngT. To be honest I'm really sad

Damkerng T.

Don't ask me. Ask her if you don't understand.

Ice Girl

Bye:(

@DamkerngT. Never ask you?

:(

Damkerng T.

You don't understand what she said, and she's here, you should ask her yourself.

Ice Girl

22:38

Calm down

Damkerng T.

I'm calm.

Ice Girl

She didn't answer me I asked

Damkerng T.

It's rude to not to ask her, but ask me instead.

Ice Girl

Why rude?

@snailplane What do you mean?

@DamkerngT. I'm waiting for your answer.

please

Damkerng T.

No, I'm waiting for your answer.

Ice Girl

22:44

What is your question tell me again?

Damkerng T.

17 mins ago, by Ice Girl

@DamkerngT. I don't know if you don't like to help me it's ok I told it you at first, if you remember it. I don't force you to help me when you don't want or like

16 mins ago, by Damkerng T.

So I have nothing to feel sad, right?

Ice Girl

No right

Damkerng T.

No what?

Ice Girl

Because you asked whatever to want to know but when it's your turn you said it's personal

It's odd for me

Damkerng T.

It might odd to you, but it's not to me.

Ice Girl

22:47

Why odd to me?

Damkerng T.

I don't know if you don't like to have me help you it's ok if you remember it. I don't force you to tell anything you don't want or like

This is my paraphrase of your sentence.

Ice Girl

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Damkerng T.

So I don't understand why you feel bad or sad.

Ice Girl

Never and Never I come here if I have to

Never mind Good bye

Cerberus

Damn, it doesn't work.

Ice Girl

22:53

@Cerberus Don't worry

Cerberus

not worried

Ice Girl

@Cerberus Do you understand what snailplane said about me?

@DamkerngT. Are you sad?

@DamkerngT. here?

@DamkerngT. :(

Anonymous

23:43

@DamkerngT. By the way, that was an interesting meta post you wrote.

Anonymous

Since downvotes on meta express disagreement and I disagree with your conclusion, I decided to downvote

Anonymous

But it's interesting to hear your perspective nonetheless

Anonymous

And yes, people were asking for answers from native speakers only before you joined.

Damkerng T.

@snailplane Umm... Did you mean after I joined?

Anonymous

No.

Anonymous

23:47

[ People were asking for answers from native speakers only ] before you joined.

Damkerng T.

Ah, I see. Thank you.

It was my speculation.

Anonymous

I've left comments from time to time to try to counteract that tendency

Damkerng T.

It's alright (disagreement). But would you mind to share which part?

Did you leave a comment for me there?

Anonymous

> The best thing for the community, in my opinion, is to leave such a sentence untouched, because that's what the OP wants, until the OP has got a good answer, then we remove it.

Damkerng T.

I see.

Anonymous

23:48

I don't really agree with that. I think it's better to remove it.

Anonymous

There's no sense in preventing non-native speakers from answering a question.

Damkerng T.

That's what I guess.

Anonymous

Just like with native speakers, if they get it right, people can upvote, and if they get it wrong, people can downvote or comment explaining their disagreement

Anonymous

Certainly native speakers leave wrong answers as well.

Damkerng T.

Tonight (a few hours earlier), there is a Q that originally there was no such tag-line...

but after I posted a comment, and replied another comment, that line was added. :-)

Anonymous

23:50

Where?

Damkerng T.

So I know, that line was specifically for me.

-1

Q: What is the meaning of this negative question?

How many a girl do you not ravish? What does this mean? And why not "how many girls?" Is this grammatically possible? I would like a native speaker's opinion on this.

grammar

^^

But I think he's a right as an OP too, so I back off.

It's not good English indeed.

Anonymous

It's not really even comprehensible.

Anonymous

You could interpret it one way or another, of course.

Damkerng T.

He posted two questions almost at the same time.

I was about to comment the other one, but he commented back first.

So I let it at that.

By the way, I didn't downvote anything today, at all.

Anonymous

They also asked for a native speaker's opinion here: ell.stackexchange.com/posts/15485/revisions

Anonymous

23:58

And here: ell.stackexchange.com/posts/15417/revisions

Damkerng T.

I see.

Anonymous

And here ell.stackexchange.com/questions/15299/…

Damkerng T.

Somehow what s/he chose to read is weird.

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