The h Bar

Phase

19:00

if they're too edgy, they're just shit

Balarka Sen

Like, damn son you got to be really normie to bring up vine gifs from the internet

Phase

Wholesome memes are an outlier

Balarka Sen

I don't think controversy is the point. It's more irony

You have to put layers of irony in

And then it starts becoming really funny

That's why 4chan thrives, really

Phase

yeah, but I feel like what makes one 'spicey' to quote the normies, is that on some level you feel slightly bad for laughing at it

Im gonna go buy a drink and a sammich

Sid

Heh. Our meme on Puzzling is banning a mod. And the guy actually ran on that platform and won an election

Future Historian

19:02

Hello, @Mithrandir24601. Wait. How did y-? What?

vzn

Nov 25 at 19:02, by Balarka Sen

His humor is layered with a thousand levels of irony

Mithrandir24601

@FutureHistorian ?

Future Historian

You are also a contributor here?

Mithrandir24601

@FutureHistorian Apparently so :P

Future Historian

Because I only went to double check that one problem I had over at the Worldbuilding SE site anyway.

Here, I mean.

good night

19:10

urggg

this took way longer than i expected

@JohnRennie

8

xd

@BalarkaSen check it out

Balarka Sen

AHAHA

You're really good at this

Alright, it's time for me to head off

Phase

That was brilliant @goodnight

good night

::blushes::

Phase

Do one for 0celo7

good night

10 stars on the last one and I'll do it :p

Emilio Pisanty

19:22

@goodnight much as I'd rather we not discuss that video on this chat

...

that was really good

good night

i try

vzn

so long & thx for all the memes

Phase

Whoa

@EmilioPisanty is that you in the video

it is him! i recognised the old image!

good night

LMAO

Phase

the answer I mean :L

CooperCape

19:31

@Phase Also he says his name at like 5:15

Or slightly before

Phase

Yeah I saw that now

So @EmilioPisanty is the answerer, and given this guys propensity for complaining about moderation on SE, is the long hair guy making the vid @0celo7 ? Hm....

CooperCape

Probs...

I can imagine anytime someone doesn't use correct notation 0celo is there like

"UGLY UGLY - ME NO LIKEY"

Phase

Tbh if that was the case he'd have probably murdered me by now

I murder notation

CooperCape

poof

$\large{\dagger}$

what a bit of mathjax...

Phase

$\huge{\dagger} ^\dagger = \huge{\dagger}$

a hermitian hermitian

good night

19:36

the dagger isn't called a hermitian

parvin

does a conductor let the free electrons move with no reason or are the electrons move due to an electrical field near the conductor?

so if the second is correct, do the conductors reach equilibrium?

in which the charges don't need to distribute

am I right or am I making mistake?

Phase

@goodnight it's called the hermitian conjugate

parvin

is the zero electrical field inside a conductor due to the canceling of electrical lines? just because of parallel sides ?

good night

@Phase u said hermitian </3 :'(

Phase

oh shit i did

good night

19:43

wait actually

DanielSank

@parvin The field is zero because if it weren't zero, the charges would move, and then once the charges finally move somewhere such that the field is zero, they stop moving.

good night

i think i've overheard people calling it the hermitian

so ya ur gud carry along

:o

Phase

Hang on

nvm

parvin

@DanielSank I see. I've started making a good correct picture of all these in my mind, high school books suck

thanks

Sid

@parvin cancelling of Field lines? What?

parvin

19:46

I mean, canceling of electrical field!

@sid

inside a spherical conductor

Sid

@parvin Elaborate please

good night

@parvin good and correct

Phase

@parvin a lot of EM confusions can be addressed by taking the approach "would this violate conservation of energy / no free energy"

Your current one being no exception

parvin

@goodnight thnks
@Sid ok, sure

0celo7

@Phase good Christ Discord is sending me emails with “gay h bar” in the title

You might have to change that

Phase

19:49

Ahahah

Emilio Pisanty

@Phase sigh. As I said, I'd rather we not continue to give currency to that kind of BS.

0celo7

You might have to change that

Phase

for a bit

weird

good night

@0celo7 i said the exact same thing a few days ago

Phase

SE was preventing me from messaging

weird

ahhhhhhhhhh SE is being really weird with me

weird

good night

19:50

but phase said we're all gay so why is it an issue @0celo7

broke

Phase

@0celo7 It'll never change

Oh god SE is going into the void

@0celo7 It'll never change

Narcissus jewel

@Phase Yeah, seems to be down for me. (Chat keeps dropping)

0celo7

@Phase seriously

Ok I deleted my account

Happy?

@Phase seriously

Phase

@0celo7 what? :(

good night

ok i deleted my account

happy?

parvin

19:53

may I ask more?!
do the electrons move in the air when conductor is in an electrical field or do they just move inside the material?!

Phase

@0celo7 you actually gonna delete it?

Emilio Pisanty

@Narcissusjewel the Portuguese chat raised so many invalid flags that they broke SE

Phase

@EmilioPisanty I cant tell if that's a joke or not

Narcissus jewel

@EmilioPisanty If this is true, this makes me really happy, not sure why.

Emilio Pisanty

@Phase only mildly joking

good night

19:57

@Narcissusjewel !!!!!!!!

2 hours ago, by good night

@Phase it's the blue butterfly i'm telling you

Emilio Pisanty

someone went and raised some twenty flags on six-hour-old posts in the SO-in-Portuguese chatroom

good night

confirmed!!!!!!!

Phase

and that crashed the chat on all the sites....?

Emilio Pisanty

possibly?

who knows

Narcissus jewel

@goodnight Hahahahaha!

Emilio Pisanty

19:57

in Estouro de Pilha, 1 min ago, by Erik the Outgolfer

the flags from here are making chat very slow, please try to stop them a bit

I'm not the only one who thinks that

Phase

Wow

That's both hilarious and deeply unsettling

Narcissus jewel

@goodnight How did you know it was me though?

good night

@Narcissusjewel I used my autism senses

they don't fail me ever

Narcissus jewel

@goodnight :').

Phase

I wish I could speak Portuguese

All languages really

It's such a shame that so many people are incapable of communicating to each other

good night

20:09

i speak physics and that's beautiful

Phase

I speak engineer

good night

$\sin \theta = 10$ $\pi = \theta$ $g = 3$

translation: greetings fellow engineer

Phase

close

you missed an important step

$\sin\theta = \theta = 3$

good night

that greeting was to 1rd order only

Loong

@Phase I could do with that. Our engineers don't even understand simple instructions.

Phase

20:18

@Loong engineers are people to. Like, 2/3rds of a person

0celo7

@Phase I’m not having messages on my phone involving gay bars.

CooperCape

@0celo7 $\bar g\bar a\bar y$

Phase

@0celo7 make it so DC doesnt email you

Also come out the closet

CooperCape

Last time I called him out for being something I was banned so I ain't doin that again

good night

they reject discord's 🇪-mails

they reject the 🇪-mails because it told them the truth

Emilio Pisanty

20:26

I submit that the red-dot thing is kinda oddly calibrated

71 questions in the close queue and it doesn't raise a fuss, but three in the First Posts queue and it's all alarm bells?

Qmechanic

Yeah, the red-dot is unnecessary.

71 questions in the close queue?! Hi all 3k+ users: Don't forget to review!

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Loong

34

Q: How does the review-needed indicator work exactly?

With the rollout of the new top bar, you’ve probably noticed the new review indicator: or It’s possible there will be a different review icon by the time you read this. But this post is just about the red circle on the icon. You’ll see the indicator is turned on: if any review queue has a r...

Emilio Pisanty

20:49

@Loong I'm not sure this site is running on those defaults

but it definitely feels like those thresholds need some adjustment here

71 close reviews is rather much for this site, it should trigger the dot

Shog9

currently the "danger" threshold for this site is 100

if the number of pending tasks drops significantly for an extended period of time, we'll lower it

otherwise, it's just going to annoy people by lighting up too often

Cows

Trying to learn the internet (protocols et al)

more like review

interview is tomorrow

@DanielSank do you have any php interview insights for me? lol

Phase

21:06

wait

there's two Mithrandirs?

Is it a character from fiction or something?

DanielSank

21:18

@Cows I've never used php

Gandalf

Gandalf is a fictional character and one of the protagonists in J. R. R. Tolkien's novels The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings. He is a wizard, member of the Istari order, as well as leader of the Fellowship of the Ring and the army of the West. In The Lord of the Rings, he is initially known as Gandalf the Grey, but returns from death as Gandalf the White. == Characteristics == Tolkien discusses Gandalf in his essay on the Istari, which appears in the work Unfinished Tales. He describes Gandalf as the last of the wizards to appear in Middle-earth, one who: "seemed the least, less tall than the...

The Elves called Gandalf "Mithrandir".

Phase

Oh. I never noticed that.

I don't really understand Gandalf

He's an angel?

good night

wait but that doesn't explain everything

if they called gandalf mithrandir

then who did they call Mithrandir24601

Emilio Pisanty

@Shog9 it still lights up way too early with First Posts if you ask me

Also, @JohnRennie apparently people did find my travel schedules offensive, got 30-min banned for one

Phase

@Shog9 Hi! I've heard a lot about you, most of it terrifying and soul rending

don't obliterate me into dust pls

vzn

lol speaking of offensive, does anyone know the best place for the latest sensationalist tripe from the popular science press to parrot?

Emilio Pisanty

21:44

@vzn why don't you peruse Sabine Hossenfelder's blog instead?

vzn

21:55

@EmilioPisanty !?! think shes great. have read/ cited her a few times.

speaking of verlinde, backreaction.blogspot.com/2017/03/…

David Z

22:46

@Phase Shog9 is nice as long as everybody gets along

Bernardo Meurer

@DavidZ Shog is always nice to me

David Z

@CooperCape thanks :-) That's pretty much the point.

Bernardo Meurer

Which makes me afraid it's all a plot by him to make me trust him

And then he will ban me and break my heart

@BalarkaSen

Roadman Shaq - Feel Ting Inc.

►

0celo7

what's going on

why was shog here

Sir Cumference

23:05

@goodnight This is the funniest thing I've seen in a while

Balarka Sen

oh shog was here no way

in Mathematics, 3 hours ago, by Balarka Sen

Why would SE do this to our chat when we would never call SE badly moderated? Oh well, we try so hard to be shog9's friend... maybe someday that will happen!

notice me senpai

Sir Cumference

Probably unoriginal

Balarka Sen

yes, very

dmckee

@DanielSank @BernardoMeurer I'm going to be in Southern California (Camirio more or less) in the week preceding Christmas. Chances to get away form the family are likely to be slim, but let me know if you are interested in meeting in person.

Mithrandir24601

We were so close, then someone came along and used all their downvotes :(

Bernardo Meurer

23:17

@dmckee I won't be here before Christmas, I leave for Brazil next week :( It's such a shame, Camarillo is like right next to me, I would totally drive down to see you! I totes owe you a beer after all the C you taught me :P

Our boi DS might be in the area though, not sure

dmckee

@BernardoMeurer That is always a risk with visits for holidays. Have fun when you're back home.

Bernardo Meurer

@dmckee You should've come for Thanksgiving, I would've crashed your dinner :P

Thanks! And you enjoy the weird CA winter weather

DanielSank

@dmckee Yes of course.

Beers are on me.

Sir Cumference

@Mithrandir24601 I never understand why people use upvotes on questions already > 10

good night

@SirCumference thanks :p

i feel like i'm pretty good at being funny

doesn't make sense how i don't have a girlfriend yet :'(

Sir Cumference

23:25

@goodnight Preaching to the choir on that one...

although I'm not funny

dmckee

@DanielSank I'll get back to you with more schedule information when I know it. I've got class in 5 minutes, though, so I have to go. Cheers.

good night

@SirCumference well i was being sarcastic

but i don't have a girlfriend so the point still holds

Sir Cumference

@goodnight Take your advice, woo a girl with astrophysics knowledge

good night

you mean shoo?

sorry bud

Sir Cumference

Oct 8 '16 at 3:32, by Sir Cumference

@bloo Yeah, I'll tell her she's so hot and bright, she produces over $10^{33}$ watts per second

Already got a killer pickup line

good night

23:27

that only works if she's also autistic

Sir Cumference

...this is depressing.

Akerai

When I look for the geometry around critical points in the phase space, and I find the eigenvalues of the linearised system to be complex conjugates at one point, how do I find the chirality of the spiral?

good night

it's rare to find girls like that

Sir Cumference

@goodnight You're going to get flagged

Not by me

good night

why?

Sir Cumference

23:28

ACM

good night

but autism isn't a bad thing :'(

enumaris

deleted my most highly upvoted answer on cross validated...too lazy to deal with all the people objecting to it lol

good night

@SirCumference i'm feeling kinda down therefore unproductive so i'm going to make a pse meme for you

you'll love it

Sir Cumference

@goodnight I'd prefer an Astronomy logo instead

Still waiting on that...

good night

what did you not like the retarded moon phase?

Sir Cumference

23:31

@goodnight The what?

good night

nvm

Sir Cumference

I'd been asking for months for an svg of the logo...

0celo7

woot I found a lemma I need in Stein

Now I can cite it and look sophisticated

good night

@0celo7 you don't need citations to look sophisticated <3

0celo7

thanks, but citing Stein is definitely high-class analysis

Sir Cumference

23:34

@goodnight You look sophisticated if you are the cited

good night

@SirCumference why did you italicize the "are" instead of "you"

0celo7

lack of sophistication

Sir Cumference

@goodnight problem fixed

good night

but now it sounds awkward

Sir Cumference

(kidding >_>)

good night

23:36

do you think this is a game

0celo7

@goodnight do you know analysis yet?

enumaris

hmm

0celo7

I didn't see that

good night

some things are meant to not be seen

Sir Cumference

@0celo7 you didn't want to see that

0celo7

23:39

tell me.

Mithrandir24601

@Akerai I hope I'm getting this right, but I believe that you order the eigenvalues in order of the smallest real component (i.e. the eigenvalue with the smallest real component is $\lambda_1$ etc.). The chirality then depends on the size of the imaginary component of the next smallest ($\lambda_2$) when compared with the size of the imaginary component of the smallest, if that makes sense

David Z

@SirCumference FWIW rather than telling people they're going to get flagged (which you don't know), it's better to say that the message isn't appropriate for the chat room. (Or that you think it's inappropriate, or that it might be inappropriate, or however you want to qualify it.)

Unless you actually do flag it yourself, then there's no need to say anything

Sir Cumference

@DavidZ Meh, what I consider appropriate or inappropriate doesn't necessarily overlap with what I expect to be flagged here

If you look at the starboard, people are constantly mentioning the overuse of flags

David Z

Right, I'm just saying that you shouldn't be telling people that their messages are going to get flagged.

good night

@DavidZ is it illegal?

David Z

23:45

@goodnight no, there is no law against telling people that their messages are going to get flagged ;-) And it's not the sort of thing you'd get suspended for doing once, if that's what you're asking.

If someone does so repeatedly, after being asked/told to stop, that could eventually lead to a suspension, of course.

Akerai

@Mithrandir24601 is that assuming I have lambdas, i.e. I look at the imaginary part of the lambda with the largest real component?

David Z

BTW I do think the message SirCumference responded to was rather inappropriate for this chat. I'm just saying, the better response would have been to say "that seems inappropriate" (or something like that), rather than saying it's going to get flagged.

Akerai

two lambdas*

Mithrandir24601

@Akerai I think you'd need more than 2, otherwise saying the direction is clockwise or anticlockwise is arbitrary (assuming that's the sort of thing you want to know when you say chirality)

Akerai

Yes, that's what I am after, however, I don't see why it should be arbitrary in two dimensions.

Mithrandir24601

23:51

i.e. it's completely arbitrary to define $\lambda_2$ as either a positive or negative phase with reference to $\lambda_1$, although it's possible there's some convention - I've only looked at this with 3 coalescing levels

Ah, wait - I think you say it has a phase of $+\pi$ compared with the first, so is leading

(in the case of 2 levels)

yeah, that makes sense :)

Akerai

Let me look at the equations for a bit, so I know what I am saying, I think at this point I am not completely sure.

Mithrandir24601

@Akerai In other words, you're right - it should be non-arbitrary in 2D

Akerai

Well yes, the phase difference is $\pi$, as they are conjugate

good night

@DavidZ it's good that you are helping make the chat a better place

Akerai

I am just uncertain as to why I can disregard the component that converges/diverges away from the centre slower.

good night

23:56

but how do you explain this

7

Mithrandir24601

@Akerai yeah - I was thinking that the phase difference wasn't defined to be positive or negative, so I was wondering which was leading the other, then I realised that it's defined/works out to be a positive phase difference

good night

did you see the close queue? :p

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