The h Bar

ACuriousMind

00:01

@peterh That's...both a good and a bad idea. Nietzsche's works are strange, and I've heard convincing arguments that they are ultimately more related to his own personal struggles than to a general moral philosophy

Emilio Pisanty

@peterh

All capital things look bad, first it looks as you would shout, second it looks as if you would try to attract extra attention on immoral ways. — peterh 28 mins ago

peterh

@ACuriousMind I've seen a significant spike in the alignment distribution at the LE.

Emilio Pisanty

"immoral" is a tad too strong, innit?

ACuriousMind

@peterh The only truly lawful evil character I remember I had as my profile pic was Edwin Odesseiron

And that was because I just think he's both hilarious and handsome :)

Emilio Pisanty

@ACuriousMind is this your new profile pic you're talking about?

ACuriousMind

00:05

@EmilioPisanty Yes, like almost all my pictures, it's a character from an RPG, in this case Kreia/Darth Traya from KotoR 2

peterh

@EmilioPisanty I am thinking on a meta SE post asking for to make it simply impossible. I tried to help/protect goodstanding newbies, and not the spammers. Attracting attention on immoral ways, yes it is spam.

@EmilioPisanty And I am nearly sure, that the OP knows very well what he is doing, but I can't prove it. This is why I noted him so nicely.

@ACuriousMind Well, I know d&d, but not these newer games. I found the tabletop better, despite that pen&paper is not so well suited for numerical simulations, it is also not limited by them. I checked your avatars by the google image search, this leaded me to different, mainly wiki pages.

@EmilioPisanty I am thinking on it, maybe I could ask this on the meta SE with an all capital title :-) The title should be: "Is it possible that an all capital title is okay?" <- and this with all capitals

ACuriousMind

@peterh Ah, but the tabletop aspect of role playing, is, to me, the boring part. The fascinating thing is to play characters. The good computer games are those that allow for that, but the pen and paper versions are infinitely better for that.

There's nothing so interesting as being the game master while a group of players does things you never even planned for, yet you have to keep the action going, and you have to keep it internally coherent

peterh

00:22

@ACuriousMind I found this nearly impossible while you want to give them the same freedom as they would have in that world.

@ACuriousMind I think a completely free play had been very funny, where there are absolutely no pre-constructed sessions, but the players are free to decide their own initiatives. Unfortunately, most of my players simply didn't understand this conception.

ACuriousMind

Well, of course you need the right group of players for this kind of role playing. There are groups who enjoy being led through a predetermined story.

But those are the boring ones. I generally just throw my players into a reasonably sized sandbox and react to whatever they decide to do

peterh

@ACuriousMind I always called this sessions "movies" :-)

@ACuriousMind How can you have time for rpg games, for tabletop rpg, for net and for physics? This time conflict hadn't the best effect to my career

ACuriousMind

@peterh It helps not to have many other hobbies ;) I have about one RPG session every two weeks, that leaves plenty of time for everything else

I guess it also helps that I mainly improvise during those sessions. I've read so many fantasy and sci fi novels during my school days that I don't really need to invent new stories, I just adapt the ones I already know

Secret

00:40

[To be elaborated later, random thoughts] 1) Method of image fail for CP violating particles?, 2) method of image of a complicated object by 'partition' the dielectric into a (insert word) of tangent spaces and thus each image charge is found by the standard image problem), then add all image charges together to find the overall image charge and position in the object?

Bernard Meurer

00:54

@ACuriousMind Your avatars get creepier and creepier

ACuriousMind

@BernardMeurer Mirroring real life, then :P

Bernard Meurer

@ACuriousMind Lol. How far are you from Mannheim?

ACuriousMind

@BernardMeurer Mannheim is right next to Heidelberg, so...not far

Bernard Meurer

Hmmmmmmmmm

HMMMMM

ACuriousMind

It's like fifteen minutes from main station to main station I think

Bernard Meurer

00:57

cough

Hm

The plot thickens

ACuriousMind

I more or less regularly go see movies in Mannheim because Heidelberg doesn't have a proper place to see movies anymore :P

Bernard Meurer

I have a good friend in Mannheim

and I have you in Heidelberg

and the girl in Wiesbaden

and another friend in Bonn

I is planning a crossing

ACuriousMind

By October I'll be even closer since I'm moving rather close to Heidelberg's main station

@BernardMeurer Do it! Let's steal @ChrisWhite and @DanielSank's title of being the only h barers to ever meet

Bernard Meurer

I'm trying really hard to understand this uni calendar hahaha

I met Daniel! I went to his wedding even :D

That was very funny

ACuriousMind

@BernardMeurer Oh wow, I didn't realize that already happened

Bernard Meurer

01:02

Lol, yeah

but we'll be the first in Europe!

Take that America!

For fucks sake, I can read portuguese

and I have no clue what they're telling me with this calendar

ACuriousMind

@BernardMeurer You'll have to hurry, I might visit Munich sometime because by now I really know a lot of people there

Bernard Meurer

@Danu Should come too

I think I have one month vacation in February

So I may stay a week in the Frankfurt/Mannheim/Heidelberg/Wiesbaden ring

and then another up in Bonn

ACuriousMind

During holidays I'm sometimes closer to Bonn than to Heidelberg

Since I hail from the great city of Wuppertal :P

Bernard Meurer

I wanted to go to Flensburg again too...

It's my favorite city in Germany

If I was bill gates I'd just buy flensburg

make everyone leave

and stay there by myself

It's a lovely place

ACuriousMind

@BernardMeurer oO

You'd at least let the brewers stay, wouldn't you?

Bernard Meurer

01:11

Well, I'm not insane so yeah

ACuriousMind

@BernardMeurer Well, you are the guy with the potato army, so I'm not making any assumptions here

Bernard Meurer

Flensburger is like

DA BEST

Does anyone here speak portuguese

I can't read this thing

ACuriousMind

Nah

Bernard Meurer

It's too portuguese

ACuriousMind

The best Northern beer is Jever

Bernard Meurer

01:14

tecnico.ulisboa.pt/files/2016/07/…

Why can't they just make make a proper calendar?

@ACuriousMind Jever? Never had that

Radeberger is good too

ACuriousMind

@BernardMeurer It's very bitter compared to the average Pils, but very good

@BernardMeurer Well, most of the well-known Pils variants are fine

But beer is more than Pilsner

And although I personally detest Kölsch, you'll need to try it when you're in Bonn

Bernard Meurer

I really like Bock

ACuriousMind

@BernardMeurer That just means it has a bit more alcohol than average, it's not a specific taste of beer

Bernard Meurer

Well yeah it's a strong lager right?

ACuriousMind

Eh, you won't get much that's called "lager" here, and "Bock" really just means it has more alcohol than the standard. You can make a "Bock" out of most beers.

Physics Meta

01:23

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Q: Is this (meta question) in scope for meta?

Is this meta question in scope for meta? On my view, the general question of "Is reposting a deleted answer acceptable?" is clearly in scope. But it isn't clear to me that the linked question is. It seems plausible that "Can someone look have a look at this?" type questions aren't.

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ACuriousMind

I guess a Pilsner is technically a type of "lager" in the terminology of the rest of the world, but everyone will just stare blankly at you if you start talking about a "lager" here

Bernard Meurer

This is all to difficult

give me a dark beer

I'll be glad

ACuriousMind

@BernardMeurer Ah, what kind? Schwarzbier? Alt? Dunkles Weizen? ;)

Bernard Meurer

in fact just give me any beer that isn't Cintra and I'll be happy

schwarzbier and Dunkles yeah

ACuriousMind

@BernardMeurer What a "Dunkles" or "Helles" is actually varies by region :P

Bernard Meurer

01:27

@ACuriousMind I will strangle you with my calculator charger

ACuriousMind

@BernardMeurer That's a harsh reaction! We just take our beer seriously :P

0celo7

@ACuriousMind your avatar is scary

ACuriousMind

35 mins ago, by ACuriousMind

@BernardMeurer Mirroring real life, then :P

Bernard Meurer

@ACuriousMind How much do you pay for beer there?

ACuriousMind

@BernardMeurer Half a liter: Between 0.50 and 2.00€ in the supermarket and between 3€ and 5€ at a bar.

Bernard Meurer

01:35

That's cheap, the supermarket at least

our bars are cheaper though

ACuriousMind

Well, at a bar you typically buy the stuff drafted from the keg

Buying the bottled stuff at a bar is just stupid :P

@BernardMeurer It is, I bought a crate of reasonably good beer today at 10.50€ for 10 liters.

Bernard Meurer

Pics or it didn't happen

that's really cheap

To be honest, I don't care all that much for draft beer, it's just as good as bottled for all I care

ACuriousMind

Well, it's nothing out of the ordinary - the expensive beers go up to 20 or 25€ a crate, but the cheap-but-not-horrible stuff is always at 10-15

You can easily find juice more expensive than beer :D

Bernard Meurer

That's what first world means

This should be UN's determining factor for development

ACuriousMind

@BernardMeurer I think it might really just be that there's a lot of breweries here?

And that beer, as such, isn't heavily taxed

Bernard Meurer

01:44

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/…

We need to make this grow

DanielSank

@ACuriousMind No no, you don't understand.

I've met three hbar users in person.

There should be a medal for this...

Bernard Meurer

Iff I manage to see Danu & ACM we'll be even Dan

ACuriousMind

@BernardMeurer I can make that grow a lot

DanielSank

@BernardMeurer True, obviously.

ACuriousMind

I'll need to drink all the beers again to accurately describe their taste, obviously ;)

DanielSank

01:46

@BernardMeurer Oh for heaven's sake that's child's play.

Bernard Meurer

@ACuriousMind That's what she said

DanielSank

Here's some serious drinking

Bernard Meurer

@DanielSank I'm still young!

ACuriousMind

@BernardMeurer wat

Bernard Meurer

@DanielSank Americana was the only one I really liked

DanielSank

01:47

@BernardMeurer Fair enough.

Bernard Meurer

1 min ago, by ACuriousMind

@BernardMeurer I can make that grow a lot

@ACuriousMind Lol

ACuriousMind

Ah :D

Bernard Meurer

@ACuriousMind I'm aiming to get to 100, but beer prices inflated here so I stopped buying

Hopefully Portugal will be cheap

DanielSank

I have a friend who's in the thousands of distinct beers consumed.

ACuriousMind

@DanielSank This poor European doesn't even know what the heck a "cream soda" is

Bernard Meurer

01:48

@DanielSank You told me about him, he's a legend

DanielSank

@ACuriousMind It's essentially carbonated water, sugar, and artificial flavor of a particular kind.

Orange soda has orange artificial flavor. Cream soda has cream artificial flavor.

ACuriousMind

I...see

DanielSank

Although the "cream" flavor is more some combination of caramel, cream, and vanilla.

ACuriousMind

I've never seen cream artificial flavor here, I think

DanielSank

...and honey in the good cases.

Bernard Meurer

01:50

@ACuriousMind try Americana Honey Cream

it's amazing

DanielSank

@ACuriousMind Not like actual cream... it's really just more of a vanilla/caramel sort of combination.

ACuriousMind

@DanielSank Yeah, that doesn't sound like a conceivable flavour of a drink to me

DanielSank

@ACuriousMind Well, it is.

ACuriousMind

It either doesn't exist here or it has thus far been well-hidden from me

DanielSank

Does "carbonated rotted grains with bitter essence of hops" sound good to you?

@ACuriousMind amazon.com/Vintage-Americana-Honey-Vanilla-Cream/dp/B0036V8M3W

ACuriousMind

01:52

@DanielSank I didn't mean it sounds good/bad, I meant I can't recall that ever being offered here

DanielSank

@ACuriousMind wut

> Yeah, that doesn't sound like a conceivable flavour of a drink to me

ACuriousMind

I can't conceive of it because it's not something Germans drink!

Bernard Meurer

@DanielSank You have to remember, Germans only drink their enemy's blood and beer

ACuriousMind

I can't even decide if I think it might be delicious or disgusting

DanielSank

@BernardMeurer ...

right

ACuriousMind

01:54

::raises horn, quaffs mead::

DanielSank

::raises flagon of mead. Quaffs::

::Goes and gets home made mead from fridge and offers to @ACuriousMind::

::Makes no promises that it doesn't taste terrible::

Bernard Meurer

::looks in horror::

DanielSank

@BernardMeurer Go hack your calculator.

Bernard Meurer

There's nothing else to do on it lol

ACuriousMind

::swears eternal loyalty to @DanielSank, fills horn with home made mead::

DanielSank

01:56

^ Damn straight!

ACuriousMind

An offer of home-made alcoholic beverage is a bond not to be taken lightly!

Bernard Meurer

On this subject

I'm almost out of beer

DanielSank

@ACuriousMind: docs.google.com/document/d/…

Bernard Meurer

Every time I read Yeast I think of yeast infection and it's horrible

DanielSank

-_-

Bernard Meurer

02:03

Can't help it

ACuriousMind

@BernardMeurer yeast is a wonderful thing :P

And I'm also out of beer and should go to bed

Bernard Meurer

DanielSank

^ ?

Bernard Meurer

Isabel saw that recently

thought it was nice lol

look at the license plate

DanielSank

Yeah i saw that.

ACuriousMind

02:06

@DanielSank I'll leave that stuff to the professionals and contend myself with infused stuff

DanielSank

@ACuriousMind Infused?

ACuriousMind

@DanielSank Take a bottle of clear, mostly tasteless schnaps and dump whatever flavour you want into it

Best bases are good vodka or Korn.

Bernard Meurer

Am I the only person here who really likes tonic water?

ACuriousMind

Can go horribly wrong, but also horribly right

Taking fruits almost always gives tasty things

DanielSank

@ACuriousMind Never heard of tasteless schnaps.

I always think of schnaps as flavored liquor.

ACuriousMind

02:09

@DanielSank I'm not sure what the proper word in English is

Good vodka has no taste, right?

DanielSank

@ACuriousMind vodka?

@ACuriousMind Mostly no taste.

Bernard Meurer

Good vodka will have you pass out before you can feel the taste

DanielSank

@BernardMeurer No no, that's Everclear.

Bernard Meurer

@ACuriousMind Is moonshine legal there?

DanielSank

Everclear (alcohol)

Everclear is a brand name of rectified spirit sold by American company Luxco. Luxco Brand is made from corn. It is bottled at 151-proof (75.5% ABV) and 190-proof (95% ABV). As of 2013, sale of the latter is prohibited in California, Florida, Maine, Massachusetts, Hawaii, Iowa, Michigan, New York, Nevada, Ohio, Washington, North Carolina, New Hampshire and Minnesota. == Similar brands == Luxco also manufactures Golden Grain Alcohol as the same spirit without the express brand name. A competitor, Gem Clear is bottled by the Quality Control Distilling Co. in Bardstown, Kentucky using roughly the same...

ACuriousMind

02:10

@DanielSank Yeah, so...vodka tends to give strange flavours unless it's really high quality. Korn is a much safer choice as a base

@DanielSank Yeah, that goes into the right direction

@BernardMeurer no

DanielSank

@ACuriousMind Wat?!

And you guys think we have strict alcohol laws!

ACuriousMind

Maybe we're hitting the boundaries of my English, but if "moonshine" refers to self-brewed liquor, that will not be legal. You need a license and official supervision to be allowed to brew liquor.

Bernard Meurer

@DanielSank US laws are stupid

@ACuriousMind Yep, that's what I meant

Even if it's for your own consumption?

DanielSank

@BernardMeurer [citation needed]

Bernard Meurer

@ACuriousMind What's the strongest liquor you can get there?

DanielSank

02:13

(but of course I agree in several cases)

ACuriousMind

@BernardMeurer That's less illegal than brewing it to sell it, but it's still illegal

DanielSank

@ACuriousMind wow

Bernard Meurer

@ACuriousMind Sounds like a dumb law

DanielSank

Here I can brew whatever the hell I want as long as I don't sell it or go over some ridiculous annual limit.

ACuriousMind

@BernardMeurer Something like 90%, I think

0celo7

02:15

@ACuriousMind So the Poincare dual of a point is just a bump $n$-form with volume 1, right? But can't the sign be different?

ACuriousMind

I have definitely drunk tea with 85% liquor

DanielSank

Yeah I can make 200 gallons per year.

@ACuriousMind ...why?

Bernard Meurer

@ACuriousMind Lol

ACuriousMind

@0celo7 not now, I was headed for bed half an hour ago and stayed only to argue about alcohol :D

0celo7

You're up late.

ACuriousMind

02:16

@DanielSank To get drunk, obviously ;)

DanielSank

Ah yes.

But of course.

ACuriousMind

It's not something I would recommend or necessarily do again, but at the time, it seemed like the appropriate thing to do

DanielSank

I have a funny story about alcohol.

6

I stayed at a friend's house to take care of their dogs for a weekend.

Saturday morning I woke up and let the dogs out to pee, etc.

Then I headed to the refrigerator for breakfast.

There was a half of a watermelon. Nice.

So I get it out, slice off a big chunk and start eating.

Tasted a little funky but probably just had been in the fridge for a while.

Nope, vodka watermelon.

Did nothing for the rest of the day.

ACuriousMind

Hahaha, nice

DanielSank

@ACuriousMind I was actually kind of annoyed.

I hadn't planned on spending my Saturday sleeping on the couch.

ACuriousMind

02:26

Yeah, getting unintentionally drunk can be kind of annoying, I get that

DanielSank

You know "Hey, it's a beautiful day! Let's go have fun. Oops, I'm flat drunk at 8:30".

ACuriousMind

Anyway, I need to go to bed else I'm not going to see the sun tomorrow, and I need to work against my vampiric reputation!

Good night, everyone!

DanielSank

Goodnight.

If you're even in my area please do stop by for a bottle of mead.

I mean that.

Bernard Meurer

@ACuriousMind See ya!

@DanielSank You didn't give me mead :(

0celo7

@BernardMeurer What are you up to this late

DanielSank

02:32

@BernardMeurer You didn't come to my place!

I gave you a burrito, jeez.

Bernard Meurer

Okay, okay, you're right, you gave me my first burrito ever

0celo7

They don't have burritos in Rio?

Bernard Meurer

@0celo7 Having a beer and reading university rules

No

0celo7

Wait are you in Lisbon

Bernard Meurer

No

I go on the 5th

0celo7

02:35

@BernardMeurer AMS is having a book sale. There are two books I want to get but won't need for months. Is it acceptable to buy them now to avoid a greater cost in the future?

DanielSank

@0celo7 I have a glass on my desk. Should I fill it with water?

0celo7

A clever metaphor?

Bernard Meurer

@0celo7 yes, that sounds like a good idea

@DanielSank yes

0celo7

@DanielSank I will buy these books eventually.

DanielSank

@0celo7 I will drink water. But should I fill my glass?

0celo7

02:37

But there's a 40% sale right now.

@DanielSank What if the price of water goes up 40% tomorrow?

Wouldn't you want to get all the water now

DanielSank

@0celo7 What?

0celo7

@DanielSank Stock up on water while it's cheap?

Bernard Meurer

@0celo7 You should take a philosophy class dawg

0celo7

I did

Bernard Meurer

@0celo7 Anyway. Get the books

0celo7

02:44

Yeah

Trying to think of which AMS books are interesting.

Hamilton's Ricci Flow and Helgason.

0celo7

04:02

@JohnRennie Like clockwork.

John Rennie

5 a.m. and John's at his PC. Sad really :-)

0celo7

class starts tomorrow.

well, today

in 9 hours

Bernard Meurer

Morning John

Any servers gone rebel?

0celo7

I should probably go to sleep.

John Rennie

04:21

@BernardMeurer Haven't checked yet

looking good so far though ...

Bernard Meurer

Oh no

you've jinxed it now

John Rennie

04:39

@SirCumference: you asked earlier if any GR heads were around ...

Bernard Meurer

@JohnRennie What's your favorite animal?

John Rennie

To eat or to pet? :-)

Bernard Meurer

Ehm

Both?

John Rennie

To eat, probably lamb. To pet - to be honest I've never really seen the point of pets so I don't have a favourite.

Did I see earlier that you're starting college in Lisbon in September?

Bernard Meurer

Yeah, I get there on the 5th

John Rennie

04:54

If you let me know your address once you're safely installed I can ship that laptop to you.

It has no disk and only one working USB port - will that still be useful?

Bernard Meurer

Hell yeah it will! It will be a while until I can get one myself

I'd kiss you if you were a young German girl

John Rennie

Well, one day I might be reincarnated :-)

Bernard Meurer

Lol

John Rennie

When we talked about you going to Germany I thought you meant from Brazil. Since Portugal is in the EU I can easily ship direct to you.

Bernard Meurer

Even though y'all bailed out from it?

John Rennie

04:56

And I imaging it would be good to have the laptop for college

@BernardMeurer we're still in the EU for at least two years. Actually there's a chance we may never leave ...

Bernard Meurer

@JohnRennie But won't everyone who voted go haystack then?

John Rennie

@BernardMeurer Leaving is an enormously complicated business because there are so many laws that need to be passed. It will take at least two years just to sort out all the paperwork.

I think there's a good chance that in two years everyone will be so bored about it that the whole thing will be quietly dropped.

Bernard Meurer

Ah, this reminds me of something!

In these past 2 weeks I've been getting my visa sorted

well, that involved getting copies of a lot of documents

and authenticating them

(the copies)

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