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ok thanks @DanielSank, glad you took a look
01:15
How do you @Danu like my comment here?
I feel nothing about it :P
@Danu: I updated the instanton answer with Donaldson invariants, but after staring at the paper for some time trying to figure out how to say any of it without just retyping the thing, I have no clue whether what I've produced makes any sense to someone just reading the answer.
01:34
@ACuriousMind Will check out once sober.
01:56
@ACuriousMind: Reading it now. Is this all based on $SO(3)$ as opposed to $SU(2)$? I don't know how you get a grading otherwise.
(Also, your action looks horrible because of the indices ;) )
@MikeMiller Uh...the gauge group is actually not fixed here, and the grading has nothing to do with the gauge group - it comes from the fields' transformation behaviour under the rotation algebra $\mathfrak{so}(4)\cong\mathfrak{su}(2)\oplus\mathfrak{su}(2)$, but I didn't want to explain the twisting procedure how that relates to their grading because it's not important at all for the result.
@MikeMiller Yes, exactly! But writing that index-free would have required me to chase prefactors all across what follows, and I would have probably gotten at least one sign wrong
@ACuriousMind: OK; this $\Bbb Z/2$-grading doesn't seem written down in the mathematical literature.
To build my dictionary: Your fields are still my connections, yes?
@MikeMiller It's physical and there for the supersymmetry, it's likely that the mathematical approach doesn't need that grading.
(To be honest, I think the indices are one of the biggest obstructions to my ability to engage with the physics literature...)
@ACuriousMind I'm still a little surprised I haven't heard about it. Whether or not we need it, we still tend to like extra data. I also should note that, as far as I know, the only place it is possible to define Donaldson polynomials is $SO(3)$, $SU(2)$, $U(2)$. (You can write them down for say $S^1$ but they're all zero.) And for both $SO(3)$ and $U(2)$ you need to modify the procedure; it does not work the same as $SU(2)$.
@MikeMiller Only the $A$ is a connection - and the $F$ is still the curvature. The other things are some $\mathfrak{g}$-valued fields. Some of them are meant to be something like a basis of one-forms on the space of connections (they are in the three-dimensional Floer theory on which Witten builds this, and you see a trace of this in the zero-modes being as many as the allowed instanton perturbation, i.e. they span the instanton tangent space).
but a part of them is also just there to make the Lagrangian gauge invariant and supersymmetric, for which I don't know a mathemati
@MikeMiller Witten never restricts the gauge group. However, there are a few ifs there - such as the non-anomalous transformation of the path integral measure, or the independence of the assignment of the signs of the path between the instantons - for which I cannot say whether they might just fail for other groups.
02:12
@ACuriousMind: There are serious problems getting compactness to work out quite right. This probably matters a lot more for us than for you.
The answer is also still lacking at least two parts - one about "higher invariants" and one about expressing them as integrals over moduli space.
However...at the end I'll just have typed up Witten's paper again, at least at my current level of understanding it, so I'll leave that for now.
Fair enough!
@MikeMiller Yeah, by using path integrals, we've already thrown out rigor in the first step ;)
@ACuriousMind It is not obvious to me where they are in the Floer theory. This is a hard dictionary (for me) to build!
(I hope, BTW, this isn't sounding like an interrogation. Your answer is helpful but due to my lack of physics knowledge it's hard to engage with a lot of the, well, words.)
@MikeMiller I only know the few things I gleaned from Witten's short expo, I haven't read Atiyah's work where this is apparently done, so I don't know if you mathematical approach even has something equivalent to these physical fields
02:20
I don't think I've ever actually read anything by Atiyah other than some of his 60s stuff on index theory and the Atiyah-Bott paper; wouldn't know, to be honest.
@ACuriousMind: Your section 2.2 makes a lot of sense to me, very clear, thanks.
If your goal is to build an actual dictionary for Donaldson theory, is seems it might be appropriate to start with the dictionary for Floer theory - The 4D SYM model here is motivated as the Lorentz-covariant generalization of the 3D Hamiltonian gauge theory Atiyah seems to have used for that.
Very strange.
To me, the (historical) motivation for Floer theory is as a way to calculate Donaldson invariants! (Of course, it now has a billion applications of its own.)
This, in turn, is essentially based on Witten's work in relating supersymmetry and Morse theory, which seems like a nice co-evolution: Floer theory is to Morse theory as quantum mechanics is to quantum field theory. (the step from finite to infinite dimension)
Your claim about the spectral flow of $\mathscr D$ near the end seems correct to me, but I'm not teeerribly comfortable with spectral flow.
I really got quite a lot out of that. Thanks a million.
02:39
@MikeMiller Oh, I didn't mean to prod you into awarding the bounty so soon! But thanks!
Heh, @ChrisWhite, gotcha!
02:54
I think I just hit the jackpot of renormalization tutorials . . wooohoooooo!
 
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03:59
reading about the renormalization group . . . what does it mean to"partially resum the perturbation
series of divergent terms"
@Huy can you help me with the little ponder I have about renormalization group?
 
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06:24
Hi @DavidZ @Secret :-)
wazzup pal?
nothign special, working on some scifi stuff
cool
Hi @dmckee
07:02
@ skill patrol My latest try suggest if I want to model time travel back to the future style that is compatible with general relativity, I will end up with highly nonlocal dynamics where the dynamics of a certain event X=(x0,y0,z0,t0) will depend on a finite number of other (x,y,z,t) that is in the past light cone of the event X

However, more calculations needed to see whether my naive guess is self consistent
07:27
@Secret more calculations are always needed pal :-)
Btw, putting a space between @ and skill defeats your purpose.
@ Secret
Or perhaps, your purpose is to see if I am reading the transcript ;-)
08:33
If I don't want to ping someone but still refer to it, I tend to do this
I only ping people if I have something important to ask or discuss
I know which of my messages are important, which of mine are just space fillers of the chat because of getting lonely and bored easily when trying to scratch my head deriving the stuff needed to solve the problems or investigate something
Aaah, I see. That explains it.
having said that, some users don't take my space fillers well especially when I started drawing pictures without elaboration (which is a sign that the picture is to be treated with a grain of salt)

If a picture is important, I will often elaborate it (even if it might be just a futile attempt at visualising something)
::throws book::
where is Ted S. when you need him
On vacation until jan 17
well by then I could just ask a prof at school
08:42
Go youtube.
All his lectures are there.
I'm having trouble with a specific step of a proof in a book that he didn't use
But I know he knows the book
You should write a book someday.
why
I'm too pedantic for an engineering book and not pedantic enough for a math book
You read so many on the same topic. You could present your own way of understanding things.
same topic?
this is the first Riemannian geometry book I've read
I like do Carmo but his notation is confusing
I'd also like it if someone told me how to actually calculate derivatives of the exponential map
08:50
Don't get hung up on one step. Remember what happened last time :-)
well it's not really one step
it's one step and then two pages
but this one step might hold the answer...
grrr he switches notation from proof to proof
makes it hard to apply previous results
$(s,t)\to(t,r)$ wtf?
-_- ouch!
wtf, indeed.
and $r=r(t)$ which makes it even more confusing
in Lemma 3.5 $\partial_t$ is the tangent vector and in 3.6 $\partial_t$ is some other thing but now $\partial_r$ is the tangent vector
and in Hawking-Ellis, which has a similar proof, $\partial_s$ is the tangent vector!
Have you down loaded iOS 9.2 yet?
dude I'm still on 8.1.3 or something
ahhhh and there's also freaking $T_v(T_pM)$
tangent space of the tangent space
09:00
That's good because you can still use the free "Minds of Modern Mathematics" app at the apple store.
never heard of it
Try it.
what is it
Once you upgrade your iOS it stops working :(
IBM has not updated it.
And I doubt they will because it's free.
09:18
@skullpetrol holy crap this notation
we have $f(r(t),t):=\exp_p(r(t)v(t))$
You didn't get it?
but $\partial_t$ only acts on the $v(t)$ part apparently
@skullpetrol I'm done with this for a while
the notation is uniformly terrible across all books
Go get the app :-)
no I have to pee
also shower and get ready to go
Have some fun
All work and no play...
09:22
well I saw that there's in exercise in this book about a result I've been wondering about for 2 years
so now I really wanna derive that result
TWO! Years
yes
Zee states in his intro that one can see if a space is curved by comparing the circumference of little circles of radius $r$ with $2\pi r$
if the difference is zero, there is no curvature
do Carmo has that as a problem so I want to take a crack at it
have to prove all of these boring statements about geodesics first
bye
Later pal
09:39
As you were saying @Secret, it's easier to follow if the elaboration is presented first.
At least, some form of "introduction," rather than a random sketch :-)
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Q: Are pull ups as performed in the Arrow possible?

GravitonReferring to the pull ups performed by Oliver Queen in the TV series The Arrow. [] My hunch is that such pull ups are impossible because it violates physics principles: as Oliver tries to pull himself up, his hands applies forces on the bar, and therefore his hands can no longer lift the bar up...

hehe
we need some swole PSE person to try this
@Qmechanic I notice you deleted your answer on my Maupertuis question. Is the question unclear? Should I try to reformulate it?
> It is customary to call $W$ a totally normal neighborhood.
Hmm, is $W'$ normal except for that one one strange point that doesn't cut his grass? It's a mostly normal neighborhood.
10:14
I have actually done these pull ups
true story
I am swole lolz omg did not know I would ever use this lingo here
Huy
Huy
10:31
@0celo7 can u halp me with easy stuf in $R^3$
wat
Huy
Huy
@0celo7: take the points $A,B,C,D = (\pm 1, \pm 1, 0)$ and $E = (0,0,12)$. I'm trying to rotate and translate them to different integer points such that they aren't as nice anymore (in a coordinate plane). I tried rotating by x and y axis by $\pi/4$ and then translating and scaling by (multiples of) $\sqrt{2}$ but can't get rid of all squareroots. maybe you can? ._.
fthat
Huy
Huy
pls
ur pro
no
we've been over this
Huy
Huy
10:34
yes u are
no
I'm terrible at math
I'm not even German middle school level, dude
Huy
Huy
but you're studying linear algebra atm at uni
so you must be like super pro
with these kind of computations
dude that linear algebra final
so many numbers...
in any case, reading about sectional curvature now
I'm not nearly far enough along to help you, sorry
11:00
I did linear algebra way back forty years ago. Forgot what it was, þough.
 
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@Huy Since no further information is given on the translation used, let m1, m2, m3, n be integers

For ease of writing down, create an augmented matrix $M$ using the position vectors A,B,C,D,E

Now rotation will be carried out by the matrix $R_{\frac{\pi}{4}}$
Translation by the matrix $T$ and scaling (assuming uniform scaling) $S$ (which is just a scalar

After that the transformed coordinates can be extracted from the column of the 3x5 matrix

The result is that the transformed position vector E' will always contains $\sqrt{2}$ unless there is no translation along the z direction
 
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Q: Unclear remark that my question is unclear

Valery SaharovWhat's wrong with this community? Only here, I am experiencing such blunt closing. If spacetime is discrete: what would space expansion mean? -- This question has been corrected. Nevertheless, no one seems to bother to reopen it Implications of observable Universe growing indefinitely -- what i...

14:32
If the units of action are $[E][T] = [MV^2][T] = [ML^2/T^2][T] = [ML^2/T]$ so that the string action is $S = - [M/T] \int dA = ...$ how do you (easily) get from $[M/T]$ to string tension $T_0$, $[M/T] = T_0/c$?
I guess $[F] = [MV/T]$ gives $[M/T] = [F/V] = T_0/c$
15:17
A local symmetry can be written $\delta f(x) =f(x)+\partial f (x)$. Would it be appropriate to consider the function to be $f(x)=q(t)$ so that $\partial f(x)=\dot q(t)$? Within the context of Noether's theorem for local symmetries.
@Qmechanic Thank you very much for the update in the 2-cocycle answer! It was extremely interesting! :D
15:43
@ACuriousMind Did you see QMechanic's answer to Emilio's question? :)
 
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@ACuriousMind Have you ever heard of this definition before? Let $\{z_1,\dotsc,z_{n-1}\}$ be an orthonormal basis on the subspace of $T_pM$ orthogonal to some $x\in T_pM$. Then the Ricci curvature in the direction of $x$ is $$\mathrm{Ric}_p(x)=\frac{1}{n-1}\sum_{i=1}^{n-1} \langle R(x,z_i)x,z_i\rangle$$
and the scalar curvature is $$K(p)=\frac{1}{n}\sum_{j=1}^n\mathrm{Ric}_p(z_j)$$
17:33
I have, for what it's worth.
It's in Leeb's Riemannian geometry notes
Greetings
17:54
OMG! Welcome back pal.
:D
yeah sorry about the hiatus
I had to isolate myself to get as much research done as possible and finish all my grad school applications
:p
Np, how are you?
purty good, all my grad school apps are done!
I'm on winter break now
how are you?
Nice.
Fine, thanks.
great :)
17:58
Go grab a hat and join the winter bash PARTY!!!
what's that?
You gotta fight for you're right to PARTY :-)

David's hat store

The Winter Bash 2015! We talk hats, period... and more hats. w...
Interesting...
<3
18:03
who are you
The Who.
@0celo7 haiiii
I missed chu <3
@FenderLesPaul or not
tis the former
18:06
'tis the season
Mass Effect is pissing me off again
tells me to find a terminal
can't find the terminal
which mass effect?
hint: the smallest odd prime
Oh... Sofia is back.
@Danu On the main site?
I saw her post something in November...
Oh... Well I've noticed her now.
dude I haven't played ME in so long
I feel like playing now
I feel like listening to The Who.
@FenderLesPaul I'm just getting my war assets up
so my ending doesn't suck as bad as it did
Guys please help me answer the following question.. I do t know how to transfer it here.
18:12
@0celo7 niceee
Forget about the beasties...
The homework tag doesn't help the fact that your question is explicitly what we don't want posted here. We want questions that deal with physics concepts, asking "how do I solve this" isn't a physics concept. — Kyle Kanos 4 mins ago
dude we should just play MW2
and troll whoever still plays it
what's the newest COD anyways?
@kyle cant i ask my question here?
We've also got another MAJOR CRACKPOT.
18:13
And by the way one requires physics concepts for solving the question.
From his own website:
Possibly, doing six fundamental discoveries by an individual could be a new world record in entire science in last 100 years.
Seems legit.
@FenderLesPaul BO3
deep sigh
@0celo7 oh
thanks
18:16
@skillpatrol Quadrophenia is great, although I haven't listened to that album in a long time.
@Danu oh what now
The homework tag doesn't help the fact that your question is explicitly what we don't want posted here. We want questions that deal with physics concepts, asking "how do I solve this" isn't a physics concept. — Kyle Kanos 8 mins ago
The guy
@FenderLesPaul I got rekt
@0celo7 It's funny how you assume I'm talking about you
18:16
at least I was the only one in my squad who died
@Danu no, it's sad
@Danu Echoing Kyle, what the heck is Bharat radiation?
@0celo7 reeekt
@Danu He's actually been around for quite a long time.
@user166748 Yes, that's about right.
@FenderLesPaul dude
18:17
@0celo7 sup?
I'm like 2000 short of the best ending :/
@dmckee Yeah, you're right.
no clue how to do it
I never noticed him though :)
how was your semester?
18:17
@HDE226868 good choice pal
all As, whatever that means
next semester should be better
18:18
and harder
what are you taking?
@Danu That's because his answers are always at the bottom of the page. Usually the very bottom.
@dmckee Hehe... To be fair, I encountered him in the low quality queue...
Answering Sofia's question...
That whole post is such a mess.
18:19
@FenderLesPaul PDE 1, Algebra, Analysis, Pre Civil War Lit, Physics 2 (waves, intro to fluids, intro to thermo), and paid research
as in
I get money
to please @Danu, it's an assistant's position
Please help me solve this
18:20
yo pre civil war lit sounds hardcore
@FenderLesPaul probably going to be the most challenging class
what kind of research did you get yourself into?
@FenderLesPaul Same stuff. Crystallography.
I could also take complex calculus.
@user166748 Again, you need to show what you've done before asking people to help you.
It's not too late to add that...
18:21
How do i find the equivalent resistance between A and B guys
@user166748 This is not a homework site.
But it is a homework chat room :-)
@0celo7 take it!
@FenderLesPaul mmmmm
my advisor advised against it
that would put me at 19 hours
How do i approach the problem
18:24
What have you tried?
yeah 19 hours + research might be a lot
@0celo7 Of class?
Go for ittttt
Paid research means you have to earn money the old fashioned way, by spending more time there @@0celo7
So i take the repeated pattern as x and then after finding the R equivalent i equate to x to get a quadratic
@Danu D:
stop trying to pressure me
18:27
But what is repeeating here
I think I'm at 30 hours per week* lol
stupid typo is stupid
19 is the max before you need departmental approval
eh
what if you just go and dont ask
how will they find out
@Danu problem is, I want to take complex analysis in my third year, not sure how much good complex calculus will do
@Danu because I need approval from my advisor to be in complex calc
I don't have the necessary prerequisites
What does that mean
You can just attend classes no
or is there a guard at the door?
18:28
the system will not let me add it to my schedule as is
@Danu dunno, that's up to the prof
@0celo7 when does your break start/end?
@0celo7 He spends his time walking around the building checking which classes you attend?
You can just physically go there, no problem, right?
@Danu the prof teaching the class...
@FenderLesPaul on break now, in Slovakia
mom and aunt are out doing Slovak things
@0celo7 You're not allowed to sit in class?
(shopping)
18:31
@0celo7 but when does it end?
@FenderLesPaul ends on the 15th of Jan? Something like that. I'm going back on the 10th
@Danu dunno, haven't tried it
Ah, so when are you in Munich?
@Danu after Christmas I think
18:32
I'm back the 5th of January
I'm going to be leaving in 4 days
@Danu I'll be in America before New Years
Oh well
@Danu ah, we won't be there during the same period
I have to go back to Ithaca on the 5th
wee
So wheat beer is pretty damn good.
Wonder why it's so uncommon in America.
18:35
Saturday football games start today :D
Jets and cowboys
Cowboys
why do they exist
to fight aliens
@FenderLesPaul you know there's a Skyrim multiplayer mod
Cry boys
@0celo7 whaaat
but it's LAN :(
@FenderLesPaul read the whole thing
you can also used a dedicated server
$\log_\mathrm{e}$
oh I see
does log even exist for anything that isn't base e?
18:42
@FenderLesPaul Do you know how to answer my questions here and here?
r, m =/= 0
@FenderLesPaul probably not
I think chemists use base 10 or something
but that's probably not well defined
is pH even real
I haven't seen a pH and neither have you
Same as temperature.
18:44
@0celo7 I don't know about the first one
but I can answer the one about null geodesics yes
I'll answer it in detail in a bit
it basically comes from considering higher order terms in the WKB approximation
@0celo7 Prof Ted is in the math chatroom now
@skillpatrol Playing games now
I'm reasonably confident I understand it now
Anybody have much familiarity with Zwiebach's book?
@FenderLesPaul hmm
Interesting...will have to brush up on that one
@skillpatrol lol that one doesn't exist
that's just a media ploy to sell weathermen
@0celo7 speaking of weather... it's finally snowing here.
18:53
not here
I looked.
lol i realized @FenderLesPaul is back.
@0537 hey
Pilsner Urquell is meh.
Kinda hoppy but not as bad as an IPA.
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DilithiumMatrixWhile most questions/answers seem to be pretty good about including the link to articles (etc) where they take images from, it seems like it might be good to consistently encourage that the original URL be provided along with the included images.

@FenderLesPaul you were missed =(
18:56
@0537 missed you too buddy <3
how are you doing? :3
@0celo7 About your Maupertuis question, you are asking whether it is possible to treat the potential energy as though it is of kinematical origin, this was a question asked by Hertz and the result is Hertz forceless mechanics, something that motivates Kaluza-Klein and extra dimensions, c.f. Lanczos Variational Principles for starters, no more freebies
@FenderLesPaul lol... I'm doing engineering now.
dropped out of physics.
@FenderLesPaul wtf how do you know who he is
he probably saw my pse answer.
@0celo7 I'm guessing it's obe
18:58
???
right.
how
shot in the dark
lol
@0537 that's cool dude, any particular reason why you switched?
18:58
@bolbteppa I'm asking weather I can treat the external force as having a geometric origin.
From a physics perspective that's the same thing
@FenderLesPaul well I suppose I realized I would probably never discover anything important.
so i decided to do something more practical.
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